what does lexus care about loosing sales to the scion, its all the same company TOYOTA=lexus, TOYOTA also makes scion< U cant loose money to urself, plus were talking about expensive cars 35.000 and over, rsx dosent come close.....But back to tha subject toyota will become superior overtime and offer a better car than bmw for cheaper and more appealing prices, the trick is start small then DO IT BIG they proved themselves once with the supra...even tho i wouldn't buy from toyota, im a Nissan/Infiniti guy so whichever way toyota goes i will not care i just wanted to retort to the last comment cause im bored and my transmission is broke and im stuck here...Peace