oh my, aren't you obsessed? this could go for on and on. and being "typical" American as I am, I'd think you'd have enough sense to stop first and realize it's a matter of opinion. so just to end the argument, I'll state: yes, it's my "ill-informed" opinion, since fortunately, I don't live in Europe and drive these hatchbacks. so why don't you take your Panda or Clio to the nearest autobahn, LOL, and calm yourself? okies?? sorry to hurt your feelings.