Self, Hey thanx man. You hit the nail on the head for why I have been asking about the LS/Vtec this whole thread. I've heard mixed reviews out it's relaiblity, and I wasn't about to start one with no good info on it. Still trying to figure it all out, and not just LS/Vtec, but what in all I want to do. I mean, turbo. built internals, etc thats given. I just want it figured out before I start as best I can. That way I'll have considerly less suprises almog the way, you know what I mean? And Seriously, someone outta ban that clown that was faking in where, pretending to be who he is not.