dont know... wholesale...dunno...i was not arguiing with you guys, just posing other information... i know of one company that is sponsering me $$$ to get started, and then another possible sponser that might give me $$$ to get started... not car companies, but $$$ is $$$...SPC would jsut be another sponser... and agina yes my car is stock, and is only the V6...but with it i will get myself started and move up...why must one have to be rich, and have the money to get started? why not sponser an enthusiast with ideas taht will win?