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  1. HeWhoKillz
    11-26-2009 09:42 AM
    HeWhoKillz
    I still think the clip is warped badly. I posted a video in the engineering technical room, you can see what I mean.
  2. curtis73
    11-26-2009 09:33 AM
    curtis73
    The axles will spline up easy. Its just the last 1" that is the tough part. That's when you're trying to seat that snap ring. The first 3" or so that you slide it in, that's the splines meshing. The tough part is the snap ring groove at the end.
  3. HeWhoKillz
    11-25-2009 12:57 PM
    HeWhoKillz
    Doesn't pounding it in like you say damage the splines that are trying to mesh with the splines on the transmission input? However I have been just pushing and waiting. I didn't know how fragile the axles might be so I didn't want to just ram it in. I'm going to have to try this ramming procedure. I haven't tried that yet. I just get it in as far as I can go and attempt to push in from that spot which doesn't work.
  4. curtis73
    11-24-2009 08:07 PM
    curtis73
    The clip is supposed to look warped. its not perfectly round. Grab the outer end of the axle and push in on it. The CV joints slide in and out to allow for length changes during suspension articulation and steering. Now, slide the axle into the transmission and do the same thing but do it like you're angry. Pound it in using that compression. Don't just push and wait, pound it. Slam those puppies home. If you're not afraid of knocking the car off the jackstands, you're not doing it hard enough

    Don't take the boot off... there is no reason for it, and its a mess. Its full of a thin grease that is the consistency of sour cream.
  5. HeWhoKillz
    11-23-2009 02:51 PM
    HeWhoKillz
    I can't take the clip off? I did actually and put it back on because I was trying to round it off since it looks warped. I'd hate to have to get new axles all because the clip was no good and I don't think they sell just the clip. I didn't know the axles compressed. Are they hard to compress by hand if you went with your first method of pushing it into the whole and letting the compression push the axle in. I can put the axle in through the first half and then it doesn't go any further without any pain. If you put the extension on the inner joint, can't the boot come off? I don't care to see the inside of the axle right now.
  6. curtis73
    11-22-2009 11:48 PM
    curtis73
    You can't remove it. The CV joints have enough compression space that they can float in and out without that clip. At the very least it will cause massive leaking at the axle seals. At the worst, the axle will come out of the transmission and cause major damage.

    The axle should slide in easily to a point. Some let the ring snap in easily, others are a pain. The best way to do it is to apply your pressure or impacts with the axle straight - not angled. If the axle is angled up, then you're forcing the ring against the bottom of the hole.

    Two ways that always seem to work for me. On easy axles, I grab the splined hub end of the axle and ram it in compressing the CV joints until they hammer the axle into place. If that doesn't work I use a long extension and a hammer. Put the extension on the inner CV joint and give it a good whack. Sometimes it also helps if you try pushing it in by the inner joint. A straight insertion often works easily.
  7. HeWhoKillz
    11-21-2009 08:52 AM
    HeWhoKillz
    Well, I'm trying to get the axles reinstalled along with everything else on my first engine change and I think the clips are warped. Ive tried hammering on the hub end with a soft hammer but its not going in and I fear the hammer would damage the threads on the hub end. Is there any method good to try and squeeze the clip down to round it? I don't know how others are but mine has maybe 1/8-1/16 of a cut out in it I suppose so it can be removed. It just seems to flop around alot on the end. The other axle shaft isn't so bad but still hard to use a soft hammer to get it in. Am I doing something wrong? I appologize for not posting this in a forum.
  8. curtis73
    11-19-2009 10:58 PM
    curtis73
    The point of the axle clips is to prevent the axle from "walking" out. As the suspension travels up and down, the length of the axle changes. The point of the clip is to hold the inner joint in place during that travel. Theoretically, if it weren't there, the inner axle could get pulled out during extreme articulation. The clip gently holds the inner joint in place so it can't move.
  9. HeWhoKillz
    11-19-2009 09:38 PM
    HeWhoKillz
    Curtis, I was refered to you by moppie. I was wondering if your wisdom and knowledge could explain to me what the clips on the end of the axle on a front wheel drive car are for. What their purpose is and whats the point of even having them if the axle is held on at the other end by the wheel hub and with that very large axle nut. Whats the point?

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