Porsche 917K Le Mans 1971

I've just started this new kit. This time I choose the Martini Porsche from Le Mans 1971. This was Van Lennep first Le Mans win.

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After seeing this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fJSJPId7eo on you-tube and bought this book...
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/untitled.jpg
...I decided to build the total spaceframe. So this will be a superdetailed version of the Fujimi Porsche 917K.

I ordered a lot of aftermarket stuff, including the fantstic engine from HRM. On this forum there is an other thread from SeanyG who build this engine kit also.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P1220805.jpg

To get things started I made a platform to build the spaceframe on. I'm going to solder different brass-rods together. My mirror is the fantastic book and the Youtube video's from Gunnar Racing. Let's start....

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I use the original mold from the kit as a guide. In this way I'm hoping that the body will still fit over the spaceframe.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P1200792.jpg

For the frontscreen surround I used thin solderline. This was much easyer to work with. This will be more rigid after building the compleet cockpit.

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Let's go up....

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The left-side is done.

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And right-side to.

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My work so far.

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I dryfitted the body on the frame. And you know..... it still fits:wink:

After painstaiking soldering I had to do something different. I decided to make the driverseat. I found some red cloth with much resemblance of the real seat. Before covering the seat with this cloth I had to made the correct shape. I used plastic strips to get the right shape.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P2190879.jpg

The seat as it looks now.

More to come soon.

Eric

WOOOOOW!

I´m definately watching this!

Good Luck!

//Emil

Now this looks promising! This is one serious project. I'll be following!

Wooooow!!! this looks amaing,go on i like your start on this.:ylsuper:

I'm tuned in :)

Great looking project :thumbsup:

I love the seat.

I agree with everyone else - good stuff! That chassis frame takes me back a few years - the Archive book is useful, isn't it? Looking forward to seeing more of this one.

Best regards,

SB

Very nice work. Love your frame. One word of caution, the Fujimi 917K cockpit is to wide. If you are going this far you should use the Heller/union body to base the framework on.


Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2010 model/photo contest-Chicago April 24th 2010

Another brass frame... Looks excellent and a lot tougher in that scale! I'm following this one! Where did you get your hands on the book? Have not seen it around anywhere yet...

Garey

Another brass frame... Looks excellent and a lot tougher in that scale! I'm following this one! Where did you get your hands on the book? Have not seen it around anywhere yet...

Garey

Hi Garey

This excellent book is available in Europe but I did not find any retailers in the US. The best angle is to try Amazon because it is sold by Amazon Germany and Amazon UK . The book has 578 pages and comes cheap ..I paid 59 Euro:iceslolan The original factory drawings are included.

Ton

I see that you will use a rear tail from resin.
Tell, there is a possibility to expand rear fenders without changing for a resin tail? You thought of it?

Since what year have started to use wider blank-end cover? I that that have forgotten this moment...

I see that you will use a rear tail from resin.
Tell, there is a possibility to expand rear fenders without changing for a resin tail? You thought of it?

Since what year have started to use wider blank-end cover? I that that have forgotten this moment...


Slightly wider as the season went on in 1971. By Watkins Glen they had extensions on the front wheels also. The 917 is was alot wider in the rear during 1970 also, although you would not know that by looking at the Fujimi kit wich is to wide in the front.

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2010 model/photo contest-Chicago April 24th 2010

I've made some progress again. First I had to rebuild the left and right side off the chassis. They were the wrong size en lenght. After rebuilding this I did much research to build the rear wich houses the engine and transmission. This is what I came up with...

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It's time now to dryfit some main parts on the chassis to see if I'm still OK with fitment. The result was not to bad:wink:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3010885.jpg

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I have still a long road to go, but I'll get there. Now I have to figure out where all the little mountingpoints go on the chassis. The suspension will be scratchbuild also. Till then.

Eric

This really is a work of art!
:worshippy

Amazing!!!!!! Simply Amazing!!!!! Stunning work on the spaceframe. Cant wait to see more!!

Cooler than a very, very, cool thing that's been in the fridge for a while, Eric!

Have you found any reference for the front engine mounts? Been looking for ages for my future 1/8th 917 big brother! ;-)

Nice brass Ewestra. That overhead shot of your frame shows excellent symmetry. It's a shame to paint it black and cover it with the body panels. Are you going to open the doors?

Cooler than a very, very, cool thing that's been in the fridge for a while
Very well put, Baldrick! :thumbsup:

Fantastic job.

Are you going to open the doors?

Yes CrateCruncher, I'm going for the open doors.

Have you found any reference for the front engine mounts?

cinqster, check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko5ajTzz-v0

Thanks for your kind reply's it sure keeps me motivated :)

Eric

Tell please, what width the blank-end cover in the widest place has? In millimetres.
Thanks.

Tell please, what width the blank-end cover in the widest place has? In millimetres.
Thanks.

What do you mean exactly, from where to where?

Eric

Is this something done in scale? or are the pictures made from a real car? Fully amazing!!!

Very well put, Baldrick! :thumbsup:

Fantastic job.

Yep! Pure liquid N!!!!!!

Beautiful work . The frame workm is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!

:yikes::worshippy this is incredible so far, I look forward to more progress

Eric, from one brass scratchbuilder to another, it looks outstanding! As said in an earlier post, the symmetry is spot on! Can't wait to see more!

Garey

Me the width of side panels interests. I wish to understand, on how many I need to expand a standard blank-end cover from Fujimi.
Excuse for my English.....

Sebastian, total width off the rearcover is 96mm. Hope this is useful for you.

Eric

Many thanks

Sebastian, I reduced the width off rearcover from 96 to 92mm. It looks better. It looks much better and more like the real car. The rearcover was just to wide. Soon I'll post some pictures.

Eric

The spaceframe is nearing its completion. I've ordered different kind off hardware te make the suspension. The rearhood was to fat, so I shaved over 4mm off the hood and looks much better now. More into scale...

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3170891.jpg

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After that I worked on some parts. First I experimented with one off the wheels...

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3170899.jpg

(Yes, I know. "LF" must be "RR" or maybe in German "RH" :))

I allready worded on the seat and covered it with red cloth. Now the back off the seat is Glassfibered...

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3170900.jpg

Also worked on the engine. One part off the aitintake is glassfibered now...

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3170901.jpg

In anticipation on some hardware I've ordered to build the suspension I started on two 1:43rd American Miniatures whitemetal kits. Both Porsches, 550 Spyder en the RSK. Since they are not difficult to build I started rightaway. I also had two diorama's wich were perfect. This is the result...

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3170902.jpg

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I know, I'm a little offtopic here :naughty:. So..... on the 917 again. I recieved the hardware ordered by RB Motion and Scale Hardware and OOOH BOY, it's beautifull. See for yourself...

The RB Motion rod-ends.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3170893.jpg

RB Motion shocks.
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(These shocks are mindblowing, when put together they even work.)

To connect the suspension on the spaceframe I use the threaded nuts and bolds from Scale Hardware with the correct washers.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P3170898.jpg

On to work on the spaceframe. After the mountingpoints are soldered on the frame it's going to be sprayed satin black. Till then.

Eric

there is some serious modeling going on here... the frame ist just amazing !

daniel
-germany-

Cool stuff! On the engine cover you shaved away those 2mm each on the outsides of the wheel arches, right!?

On the engine cover you shaved away those 2mm each on the outsides of the wheel arches, right!?

Yes jaykay640, I shaved 2mm on both sides.

Excellent work mate. I can't believe I've missed this thread. I look forward to watching this progress.

Hi Eric

The frame looks stunning....:eek7::eek7::eek7:
Also the calssfibered parts looks great,this car will look amazing at the end.

Roger

Excellence work. I have a question.. How the fiberglass is done?

Excellence work. I have a question.. How the fiberglass is done?

In Robrex WIP on the 935 there is an excellent "how to do" here's the link
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...ght=Fiberglass (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...ght=Fiberglass)

Good luck

Eric

Amazing building so far, excellant scratchbuilding!! Nice work on the 1:43s they look great!!

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=438245&highlight=Fiberglass

I noticed my link doesn't work, maybe this works.

Eric

so far this build is uterly stunning!!!. i was just wondering if you are going to cut the door's out, as i have just try'd to do and made a mess. so if you are i would be very interested in how to do it right thanx and keep up the stunning work.

Done some work on the 917 again. Progress is very slow. Sometimes I think what the hell I'm doing. The suspensionmountings are giving me a hard time. A lot try and error and starting over again. To give you an idea I followed this progress with the camera...

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I start with some thin coppersheet and cut a line of.

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Then bend into a U-shape.

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Cut to the correct lenght.

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Drilling 0,5mm holes.

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Done and ready for soldering.

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To give you an idea I made some of the suspension with a copper rod.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P4230947.jpg
Another view at both sides.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P4230948.jpg

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Frontsuspension almost done.

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To stay focussed I worked on the rear of the spaceframe. I soldered the mountingplates for the rearlights.

Before spraying the frame satin black I still have to do:
- pedalmountings
- stabilizers front and back
- steeringcolom
- suspensionmountings
- frame for sparetire

Sssssssooooooooo.....:runaround:

Eric

i was just wondering if you are going to cut the door's out,

Next update I will show you how I do this slave 1.

Eric

looks great bro. love all the details.

As asked by Slave 1, here a little tutorial about cutting out doors and so on.

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To do this job right I use a new blade in the Exacto knife, a pe saw and panelscriber both from Crazy Modeller. Specialy the panelscriber from CM is very good.

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I always start on difficult places on the model because the body is still firm. In the hard to reach places sometimes you must grab the body wich can cause the body to break if you have scribed the easy spots. Try to resist to start on the easy part.

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With the panelscriber gently pull line after line. Don't go back and forth because with the panelscriber you can only go one way.

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Finally you are through.

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Another hard part is scribing the bends. For this I use the Exacto knife. Very gently scribe the bend until you are through. Just before I'm going through the plastic I start to carefully punch through the plastic.

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For the straight lines I first use the panelscriber. I stop scribing when you see that the panelline is brighter when you hold it against the light. The I use the pe-saw to go through the plastic. This leaves a very fine cut with less loss of plastic.

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And there you are. The door is out. Now with this Fujimi 917 the realy carefull part starts, because with one door out the body is less rigid and is easy to brake, but.......

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P4240958.jpg
...with extra care the second door is removed.

It isn't difficult and the main secret is "take your time". For me to remove both doors it took me about two and a half hours.

I hope this was of any use and remember....take your time.

Eric

helpful tutorial Thanks!

:) thanx eric, i have also managed to this with my 2nd body shell,but only on the driver's door. as for the now flimsy body,i've made the lip for the door to sit on with styrene strip,this strenthen's the area quite a bit. and also i have left the fuel filler neck uncut,as it's even more flimsy if cut out.
you can see my handywork on spc,but it's not up to the standard of your's. keep it coming and thanx again..

It's raining allday now. A good time to work on the 917. I worked on the wheels and changed it to a threaded nut and bolt configuration. This way I can remove the wheels when the model is finished. I started with the nuts and bolds...

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P5020959.jpg

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In order to make the bolts suitable for the wheelhubs I shaved of the corners

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The nuts are to large and had to be shaved to the correct size

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P5020962.jpg
This was all done with the mini handdrill

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Here you can see the result

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P5020964.jpg
Threaded wheelhub

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P5020965.jpg
Here the parts are lined up. The only thing missing is the brake-disc.

The frame has now all the front mounting-points for the suspension. I soon start to work on the mounting-points for the rear. Keep you posted.

Eric

that is cool, I want to try that sometime myself. I look forward to seeing it mocked up

Impressive soldering. Seat looks great as well.

woow outstanding work i wish i was that good

Hey there, Must be getting cold there again. Any further progress to show us?

ianc

@ ianc, yes I will start working on the 917 again. Today I bought the wonderful 912 engine from MFH. I will post pictures soon. Stay tuned :).

Eric

Today I bought the wonderful 912 engine from MFH.

Let me guess Eric :screwy: Porsche Event Laren?:iceslolan

Well Tony, Naarden to be precise, but you're close:smokin:

Well Tony, Naarden to be precise, but you're close:smokin:

Getting old Eric...after 24 hours I don't know where I have been :icon16:

It has been a while since my last up-date. But this project is on again. I've decided not to use my scratchbuild spaceframe for the car. Instead I will show it next to the finished 917. My last post was that I've bought a beautiful 912 engine. It's from Model Factory Hiro and will replace the HRM engine. Still a good engine, but I like the extra detailing and the resin parts for cooled air etc. Here some pictures.

The box.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P9182423-1.jpg

The parts.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P9182424.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P9182425.jpg

So I started with the engine. I gave it a brownish color and weathered it with dark washes. In the process I will handle the engine wich it hopefully gives natural wear.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P9182426.jpg

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The coolingfins are PE.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/P9182428.jpg

Engine-parts glued together.

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Here you see the resin part to direct cool air to the engine. I'm planning on slightly give it some dark washes to give it a used effect.

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Since I've abonded this...

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I had to build a new part of the spaceframe. Again I used copperwire and soldered it together.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PA232452.jpg

I got a proper fit of the new frame in the body.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PA232454.jpg

The rear wheelarches must have a rough polyester look. To reach this I used cloth from tee-backs (the pyramid ones). First I made a template.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PA232458.jpg

With Tamiya Plastic glue I bonded it on the wheelarch.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PA232459.jpg

I first gave it a brown look. I used thinned artpaint (oil based).

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Then after more research I noticed this car had black wheelarches. So I used Matt-Black from Zero Paints. This worked very well since the paint is thin. I had to spray several layers. I stopped when the brownish paint still shined trough the black paint.

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Sprayed the top dashboard with Tenco Scale Fabric to give a nice texture.

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I started building the underside of the dashboard with all the switches and offcourse the perforated ignitionkey. I also sprayed Tenco on the underdide.

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Used the PE part from studio 27.

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Drilled small holes for the switches.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PB202506.jpg

Remade the plastic part on the steeringcolumn with injectionneedles.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PB202507.jpg

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The finished dashboard, with the key hehehe.

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I build a new oiltank from plasticcard.

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Dryfitting the new oiltank.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PB192486.jpg

The place where the oiltank is gonna sit is made rough with glued on tissuepaper.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PA292479.jpg

The other side (right) has an aluminum plate with some rivets. To make the holes straight I used this handy tool. Just role on the plastic and it leaves small dents wich are drilled out.

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The footrest has some texture wich I replicated with use of the foly inside a pack of cigarettes.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PA292478.jpg

Painted it and give a little drybrush to give a used look.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PB232521.jpg

For the pedals I used the wonderful set from Renaissance. This is how I build them together.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PB262537.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/ewestra/PB262539.jpg

More soon, I promice.

Eric

A joy to follow this build Eric!

Amazing!!