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SiRI
04-12-2003, 10:31 PM
Ok, heres the case of my car: Its a 1989 Nissan 240sx, so it has the KA24E in it. I want to turbo this engine but im carrying 150,XXX Miles on her. Not Good. I'd rather try picking off a cheap KA24DE with low miles if possible and turbo that instead. If not I could go with a SR20DET, then upgrade the turbo in the near future. Take note: I am installing everything by myself, so theres no extra "Labor" costs or anything. On another note, my dad works for a nissan dealer and can get OEM parts for a discounted price instead of the public cost. If I were to install the SR20DET they cannot get JDM parts so i'd have to specially order them as well.

Who thinks it would be a bad idea to turbo a engine that has 150,XXX Miles on it? Would it be weak? Or would it just be a better idea to get a cheap KA24DE with low miles rather than a SR20DET.

Choices Choices, Money isnt that big of an option but i'd like the torque but there are a few good tracks around here I could have fun with a SR20DET, but i'd rather own a daily driver w/ fun weekends, not only track racing.

And I will be honest, I havnt doen much research on the required parts for a KA24-T in general, But it shouldnt be much harder all together. - Jus.

NISSANSPDR
04-12-2003, 10:43 PM
I'd say pick up a KA24DE...and put on a custom turbo kit (like my bro's have for 1600 bux...put down a nice 220rwhp at 5.8 psi) and kick some butt!

:bandit:

SiRI
04-12-2003, 11:00 PM
The reason I picked up this car for cheap was because i was under the intension I was going to turn it into a strict track car, with a SR20DET because the KA24E smokes a bit at first and chokes on oil :bloated: But now things have changed, the track was shut down due to low funds, and the closest one is 300 miles away, I definatly done feel like driving 300 miles every weekend to race.. Bleehh

Sanchi
04-13-2003, 06:49 AM
:D Well I voted for the KA-T cause thats what im gona be doing in the next couple of months depending on money. Its a much eazier set up IMG. When and if i do plan on doing the upgrade i think ill be at 120k miles shit i think im almost there already :( but maby just rebuild it alil and do the install. I know TatII said he was gona do his KA-T soon!! so im just hopeing to get some more info on it when hes done. Should be alota fun http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/otn/realhappy/xxrotflmao.gif

SiRI
04-13-2003, 08:10 AM
Yeah sounds like a plan.. I think i've decided im going to find a KA24DE with low miles for pretty cheap, even if it has a little problem im going to replace the pistons and get it all boared out when I get it, so it'll be pretty fresh.

As for a turbo im looking for a nice T04 that outputs a good amount of power.

Dorikin
04-13-2003, 09:01 AM
Id say, in your situation, find a nice KA24DE from an S14, bolt on a big turbo, intercooler,oil cooler, the whole works, and you can tear a new asshole...

And keep and extra KA on hand should anything break...

Dont forget about engine managment either...I sugest SDS or MoTec

Rage of Xenin
04-13-2003, 11:49 AM
off-topic:

i've seen that picture of the kitten held at gunpoint on penciljack.com, you from there?

ghostchild316
04-17-2003, 08:10 PM
I saw somewhere on the web that the SOHC KA head flows a bit better than the DOHC version.Anyone know anything about this?

I'm still debating though-

KA24ET or SR20DET

I saw a video clip from yashio factory.It had a 180sx and boy,did it sound SWEET:frog: :jump:

remember me?
04-18-2003, 09:32 PM
ka-t.

atl240kid
04-18-2003, 10:44 PM
KA-T

ghostchild316
04-18-2003, 11:20 PM
The KA-T is cool but i really dont plan on drag racing.And I have always wanted an SR and to run on tracks...but ka engines are everywhere and alot cheaper...but then there is a TON of aftermarket support for the SR.
Maybe I'll go KA-T as a learning experience and to see what the KA can really do.Maybe I should get an SR as a backup engine.

TatII
04-19-2003, 12:37 AM
i wish i can get it done by this weekend for my turbo, but aparently the parts didnt' come yet!! grrrrr i'm still missing hte cold air intake, the intercooler piping and a few other misc stuff. grrr this is drivn me nuts!! i'm suppose to have it done like 2 weeks ago!! and today i saw 2 '04 STi's!!! i feel that my car is fallin behind and that i can't keep up with the newer crowd!! must get turbo soon!!

edit: i woudln't exactly say that the single cam flows better. cause its only got 3 valves per head instead of the twin cam's 4 valve per head. people like hte single cam better becuase you only need to change one cam shaft, and there are less parts to break, and spin etc. mostly a realiable issue.

Twyzz
04-22-2003, 11:12 PM
off topics : look at my pic of that cat

Ace$nyper
04-24-2003, 10:07 PM
LOL that cat rules! BTW all i'm going to get the pics of my EF up sometime it's been really hetic for me this week. I like SR though i have this love for this motor (then again i've never driven a KA-T) but i keep hearing they own

TheLogikal1
04-24-2003, 10:08 PM
whats with the cat?

SiRI
04-27-2003, 09:54 PM
Off-hand what would be the problems with a KA24E-T? If I cannot find a KA24DE for cheap, im going to keep the SOHC and bore it out, rebuild all the internals, then set up a T04B.

How much different would a KA24E-T be compared to a KA24DE-T?

mynismo
04-27-2003, 10:00 PM
there's really only a 15hp difference in them

if you use a sohc make sure it has somewhat low miles or you may blow it.

there's a place to get sohc turbo setup but i forgot where...

SiRI
04-27-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by mynismo
there's really only a 15hp difference in them

if you use a sohc make sure it has somewhat low miles or you may blow it.

there's a place to get sohc turbo setup but i forgot where...

Well the motor itself has 150,XXX miles on it, but my dad works for nissan and I can get new parts and whatnot through him. He has a spare block for a SOHC...

Before I go and do this though im gonna make sure I can find a manifold for a T04B and everything I need.

Once im sure everythings ok im going to start ripping apart, ordering, and building.. :devil:

mynismo
04-27-2003, 10:44 PM
kickass

turbo2nr
04-29-2003, 09:22 AM
i voterd sr20det mainly because your motor has 150xxx on it so in the near future you willhave to build the internals again and that will cost some $ and the sr20det will be a newer motor and in my opinion has a better fuel and ignition system....

my .02

btw. tat2 keep us posted on your turbo project

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SiRI
04-29-2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by sr20det2nr
i voterd sr20det mainly because your motor has 150xxx on it so in the near future you willhave to build the internals again and that will cost some $ and the sr20det will be a newer motor and in my opinion has a better fuel and ignition system....

my .02

btw. tat2 keep us posted on your turbo project

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EXACTLY, IM GOING TO REBUILD THE INTERNALS FROM THE START, IM GOING TO BORE IT OUT AND REPLACE EVERYTHING INSIDE THE ENGINE, REPLACING ALMOST EVERYTHING INSIDE THE ENGINE.

SORRY FOR THE CAPS THE KEY IS BROKEN ON THIS COMPUTER.

TatII
04-29-2003, 10:47 AM
i am picking up my turbo this friday from realnissan. i will hopefully be able to take pics of it whenever i can. thats if my sister didn't take my damn digital camera to south america for her freakin vacation this thursday!

turbo2nr
04-29-2003, 11:47 AM
building internals=YES
go KA-T!!!!!



:D :D :devil: :D :D

tat2 damm thoses sisters and wanting 2 use da camera!!

hope to see some pic tho

good luck maybe when i get my gsx ill race you if u let me since u r in nyc 2!

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SR20DETpower
04-29-2003, 12:06 PM
yeah if u want to rebuild internals defintely just stay with the KA, I mean you already have that engine, no sense in buying another engine just to make it as good.... save u more money=more hp hehe.

Id like to run a KA24ET with forged pistons, wicked cam, crankshaft balancing, and some head work(porting polishing, valvetrain etc...

You would be happy just running the turbo on low boost until u can build up the engine then crank her up lol.

Venger10
04-29-2003, 12:34 PM
SR20DET....no contest..

The KA motor can only take about 8 psi of boost....SCC did a story on this a while back....Guy blew up his KA motor 3 times before finally getting a REAL motor....SR20DET:D :D

turbo2nr
04-29-2003, 01:06 PM
SR20DET....no contest.. The KA motor can only take about 8 psi of boost....SCC did a story on this a while back....Guy blew up his KA motor 3 times before finally getting a REAL motor....SR20DET

im not even gona bother:rolleyes:

newbies.....

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Dorikin
04-29-2003, 07:43 PM
Guys one more reason why KA-T is coolness. Yashio Factory uses it!

SiRI
04-29-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Dorikin
Guys one more reason why KA-T is coolness. Yashio Factory uses it!

:silly2:

I was thinking about picking up a KA24DE off ebay, but with the few problems i've been having with shipping and stuff I think i'll save the few hundred dollars and just keep the SOHC.. My 240sx was suppost to be delivered from North Carolina to Delaware (my house), 540 miles approx. One way... around 1200 miles all together. Ended up never getting picked up so I took a 24 hour trip and hauled it up on a trailer myself... :bloated:

SR20DETpower
04-29-2003, 08:52 PM
Im sorry but the only way to blow an engine is to be stupid. If that guy blew up his engine 3 times on low boost he defintely is not playing with a full deck of cars in car knowledge.

With good tuning your car will handle more then u think. If your spark, air, and fuel is all there in its required amounts then it is damn near impossible to blow up an engine. After 15psi or so you need forged pistons, I think the SR20 needs them after 20 or so......but with the KA on 15psi of boost it is making more hp then a SR20 on 20psi of boost.

If this guy threw on a turbo manifold, had no intercooler, stock injectors, stock ecu, and got a electronic boost controller and just cranked it to 10psi or so to be an IDIOT..... no doubt in my mind it would blow after awhile. If you make your system up with some thinking and have everything in the proportion it needs to be in then it will last a LONG time.

SiRI
04-29-2003, 10:38 PM
Definatly why I'm not boosting until Im all done.. Hell im not even driving until im done, its gonna be sitting in my garage while I work on it with my spare time, and I drive my jeep while its up on jacks :bloated:

mynismo
04-30-2003, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by SiRI
Definatly why I'm not boosting until Im all done.. Hell im not even driving until im done, its gonna be sitting in my garage while I work on it with my spare time, and I drive my jeep while its up on jacks :bloated:


jeeps rule! i got a 90 cherokee beater i've been driving around last couple days cause all the struts are crcked on my 240.... hopefully tokico replacements come tomorrow....

222,000 mi. those things don't stop running.

ka-t is def the way to go. just be careful with boost. my stupid ass of a friend went up to 23 psi on his 240 with a 30 shot of nos. i

he had a 10 sec car for a few hours, then it blew. im surprised it lasted that long...

SiRI
04-30-2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by mynismo
222,000 mi. those things don't stop running.

ka-t is def the way to go. just be careful with boost. my stupid ass of a friend went up to 23 psi on his 240 with a 30 shot of nos. i

he had a 10 sec car for a few hours, then it blew. im surprised it lasted that long...

Needless to say, what a moron, but its all good im only gonna run low boost most of the time anyways.

Yeah my jeep has 205,XXX on it.. and its a fun beater cause you can do things like this:

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