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Sami Aaltonen
11-03-2009, 02:05 PM
Yep, this have been in my mind quite long time now and now is time to do it something.

I've been watched carefully that Incar Sportscar Experience DVD and there has some things, what I need to clear out. I have trying to get the informations couple of different resources but still lacking some of those.
Hope here is an experts who can help me these ones!

I have images taken of that DVD but I can't release them, because of the copyrights of DUKE. Just so shame! SO have to explain now.....:shakehead
Short Youtube clip of that DVD will found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=ob-To4UVu-c

1. That DVD, is it only BPR GT 1996 or is there some parts of season 1995 also?

2. Spa race clips, is clearly seen #22R, black Davidoff Longtail GTR serval times. Those must be 1997 FIA GT Championship?!
Like the incar clip end of the DVD Jarama, I think it's the same Davidoff GTR Longtail #22R?

3. - FINA number , Soper, Piquet number #24 is #16R?
- Frank Muller livery is #11R?
- Italjet pinkpurplle is #05R?
- The GULF number #2 is #12R?
- What else GULF GTR's there was included that #12R number 2 car? The screenshots are not so good quality, that the racing numbers
can be clear seen.
- West car is #03R?
- Anderstorp all Incar shots were taken from Weaver Bellm #12R like Monza also?

4. Peter Kox where driving West car I think Nurburgring on that DVD, attleast the commentator says his name and I'm 99% sure about the track. Only wierd thing is, I can't find Peter Kox name any of driver lists. Not 1995 or 1996 BPR GT series. Not included the Le Mans.
What is this story? Very strange I think?!

5. Where were the other GTR's if they aren't seen on the races of BPR GT on this DVD?

This is so far, the biggest questions are these this moment. Hope this thread will sucseed. Hopely I'm not the only one who wants to know everything about GTR McLrarens and this fantastic time of GT racing!

hurstg01
11-03-2009, 03:07 PM
Hi Sami [the following is all from memory, so bear with me :)]

Gulf #2 car is #12R; Franck Muller is #11R; Italjet is #05R; West car is #03R; Gulf #6 car is #15R that raced with Gulf #2 car #12R; ;

Peter Kox raced at Le Mans in 1996 in #03R - he also raced a few longtails (#21R, #23R and #26R) in 1997

If it's the black longtail Davidoff car then yes it would be 1997


:) I really should get the DVD out of storage and watch it again to see if I can answer any more unless someone beats me to it :)

Sami Aaltonen
11-04-2009, 12:07 PM
Hi Sami [the following is all from memory, so bear with me :)]

Gulf #2 car is #12R; Franck Muller is #11R; Italjet is #05R; West car is #03R; Gulf #6 car is #15R that raced with Gulf #2 car #12R; ;

Peter Kox raced at Le Mans in 1996 in #03R - he also raced a few longtails (#21R, #23R and #26R) in 1997

If it's the black longtail Davidoff car then yes it would be 1997


:) I really should get the DVD out of storage and watch it again to see if I can answer any more unless someone beats me to it :)

OK! So far so good!
The Peter Kox is staying mystery, the DVD shows clearly that is is driving shorttail, manual gearbox and even pedalbox view has been seen on that DVD. Very strange!

And that GULF #6 car was new info to me.
Just so harm, that I can not put the screenshots of that DVD here.

Sami Aaltonen
11-12-2009, 05:02 AM
This KOX mystery opened abit, when I found after slow and carefully reading this at McLaren Guide:
1996 Le Mans 24 hours: 4th (Bscher/Nielsen/Kox).

So it means, DVD's the short clips of Peter Kox behind streering wheel of #03R must be taken from Le Mans 1996, or then some kind of test day, which I doubt.

DocGTR
11-18-2009, 09:41 PM
Googling the chassis numbers (e.g. QV500) and the races they took part with driver names can reveal the KOX mystery! Also on the video it is somewhere said it is from the Nurburgring where Peter Kox drove along Dr. Bscher, as John Nielsen was unable to do so as he drove the 14R on the other side of the globe.

Sami Aaltonen
11-20-2009, 02:41 PM
Googling the chassis numbers (e.g. QV500) and the races they took part with driver names can reveal the KOX mystery! Also on the video it is somewhere said it is from the Nurburgring where Peter Kox drove along Dr. Bscher, as John Nielsen was unable to do so as he drove the 14R on the other side of the globe.

Yep, it's incredible how much incorrect things can be found these things. Okey, BPR series was longtime ago, but still these kind of faults very good DVD just could not be allowed.
Great that now I and other fans know the whole truth of this, which is seen at the livery Thread, thanks! :smile:

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