Where N.E.S. stand for..... Never Ending Story..... :D LOL!

Ok, back to us: my goal

911SC Esso: (Monte or TdC '80)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/254-5419_IMG.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/N-9-Corse-80-b-WEB.jpg

911Carrera Gitanes, Monte '78

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/86hg74216.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/86hg74218.jpg

911SC Martini, Safari '78

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/PelicanPartsTechnicalBBSUltimatewal.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/911martini.jpg

911SC/RS Rothmans, 1000 pistes '84 (o Tour Auto 85)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/grB-003.jpg

So far they're 4 models to do also!

Ok let me to introduce the "starter kit" ;)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1010.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0001.jpg

and few parts would be cannibalized (ok I admit, I'm cheap, read cloned..) from the following great kits:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0010.jpg

Not to mention..... the starting point:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1001.jpg

like you'll see this Esci 934 is spoiler and fender less....

sweeet, I will watch that for sure, exactly my taste of cars.

daniel
-germany-

Ok: two words about my choise of to use the Fuji EM kits insthead the Esci 934: EM 911's offers multiple options combining modulars parts like spoilers and bumpers, and much details so....

So far, a plan:

911 Esso: Base is a 911 turbo (kerbside one)

- Almeras front spoiler, modified from the 934 one
- 934 fenders
- duck tail spoiler

911 Gitanes: base is the 911 Turbo EM

- 911 '74 RS front/back bumpers
- Almeras front spoiler, modified from the 934 one
- correction on turbo "strange" fenders
- 911turbo back wing

911 Martini: base 911 Carrera (narrow)

- scratch bull bars/grilles

911 Rothmans Group B: base is a 911 Turbo '85

- Modified back wing
- '74 RS back bumper
- Turbo front bumper

911 Esso:

I started with the front spoiler: the kind Almeras spoiler was created modifing (width and high) the 934 one, inlets was modified..

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1002.jpg

A first mock-up:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1004.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1005.jpg

Kind plan also for Gotti rims!

And now, speaking of 934.... something for my friend Andy: I think you all will guess next our epic shared thread...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/DSC_0767.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0011.jpg

Wow Gio, thats one hell of a few projects your starting, Cant wait to see what you do with them!! Your 550 was amazing!!

PB trouble fixed :D

I'm lucky man..... :D

I done something special on the Esso car for glass gaskets: thinking of use PE gaskets on 911S/RS/RSR and 911R I re-engineered the kit to house spare gaskets with a surround (like resin kits), obviously in this one I wouldn't use PE gaskets, too flat, I'm scratchbuilding mine by plastic:

the surround:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0995.jpg

the gasket (back) by 1mm diam rod (sanded then to obtain a semi-circular section)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0997.jpg

and the same job in front

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0996.jpg

Same threatment on sides, where I was able to reuse kit's gaskets (but there I'll sure use PE gaskets, they're flat also on real thing)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0999.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1000.jpg

Fuel cap was drilled out (hard to rescribe) and filled with 2Kputty and plastic

I also sculpt the inner surfaces, but I'll probably use it on a future street 911 (911S?)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1006.jpg

So I started to work on the Gitanes Carrera:

body is the wide kind (turbo) and fenders are just painted on the original car (bolt on only a recent replica), but Fuji turbo looks a bit strange since the shapes are extruded starting from the narrow body, so I tried to modify in the typical rounded profile

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1008.jpg

Than I worked on the body: this would be a full open model (and a test for future's 934s... :D), all inner surfaces was recreated with 0.5mm thick styrene

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0002.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0003.jpg

Door's panel still needs all its details

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0004.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0005.jpg

And finally a test with RSR (cut) bumpers, Almeras splitter and turbo wing:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0006.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0007.jpg

And speaking of the SC/RS I worked on the '85turbo spoiler cutting and sanding until I got a convincing "carrera" wing, the kind with wide grill

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0008.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0009.jpg

I will definately follow this scratchbuilding and kitbashing madness since I have some of the decal sets myself. I have been planning the Esso-Build as well as the Almeras build since awhile now. Luckily I can copy a lot from your ideas - except you claim some sort of copyright on them.

Man, I´m excited. Thanks for sharing this.


Robert

...except you claim some sort of copyright on them.

LOL!!!!
Be and share on forums is a whole balance between to give and to keep, more than a ego medicine :D. may be this time is my turn to offer a bit ;)

Narrow-Turbo-Gio: :lol:

I look forward to seeing a 911Gio!

My taste in cars exactly! :sunglasse I will have fun watching(/building) along....

old school racing car, I'm in. :)

Nice scratch work. Way to show that plastic who's boss. For what it's worth, Evergreen Plastic sells a 1mm half-round cross-section (Item No. 240) if you get tired of making your own.

Nice scratch work. Way to show that plastic who's boss. For what it's worth, Evergreen Plastic sells a 1mm half-round cross-section (Item No. 240) if you get tired of making your own.

Thanks, in this case I think would be better be free to fold the rod in any direction, and sand back then, you kno, when you forl a semi circular (or squared) pipe would be trick mantain a planar surface in the back ;)

Gio, those are awesome! I have all those kits and decals and was planning on sometime or another doing these for my Porsche collection. This will be fun to watch. I do wish someone would come out with a nice 934 or 935 transkit for the Fujimi kits, hint hint...
Nic

I do wish someone would come out with a nice 934 or 935 transkit for the Fujimi kits, hint hint...
Nic

Hi my friend: must be cool but must be someone other to do it for sale :D, I found cool suck money with my job and spend all on modeling, found also that is quite tedious have income trough models but more it is not enough.... much work/small incom in the modeling world... I ever loved minimum afford/maximum $$$ :D , selling ideas is sometime possible, selling resin or PE not....

Sweet, first time ive seen someone do the trim from scratch. I need to do this to a 1/24, hopefully it can turn out like yours. Thanks for sharing and good luck!

WTG this going to be a fun "slice & splice" massacre to follow! :thumbsup:

I wonder if I will live to see one of them finished....? ;) :evillol: :D

Hi Gio,

Waow incredible Porsche multi-projects !!
I love it !

I also recently decided to convert one of my 911 Turbo into the wonderfull SC RS (what a sound !! :naughty:) Group B.
It seems that you miss (or still haven't done it) that the rear wing doesn't only need to be corrected in its wight and edges shape but also has to get his "inside space" reduced. I mean that the rear edge of it is design to receive the intercooler whereas the SC RS is an atmo engine and rear wing isn't enlarge to the rear to get the intercooler.
As inside space isn't as large as the turbo one wing then appears (and is) longer from the edge of the inside space. Did you notice that ? If yes how do you intend to rebuild it ?
because that is where I'm stopped now with this project (except that I can't find time now to go on on it but it's another story :eek7:)
I have some pictures of the real car to show what I mean if it is not clear enough...
(unfortunately none of my current project, but may be able to take some this week-end)
We also have to pay attention not to look too much to the street SC RS for inspiration because it also have some minor differences with the racing one.
(bumper lips, etc...)

Do you plan to build and detail the engines ?
(appears to be a sod question knowing your talent to, but humm... :p :icon16:)

Hi Gio,

Waow incredible Porsche multi-projects !!
I love it !

I also recently decided to convert one of my 911 Turbo into the wonderfull SC RS (what a sound !! :naughty:) Group B.
It seems that you miss (or still haven't done it) that the rear wing doesn't only need to be corrected in its wight and edges shape but also has to get his "inside space" reduced. I mean that the rear edge of it is design to receive the intercooler whereas the SC RS is an atmo engine and rear wing isn't enlarge to the rear to get the intercooler.
As inside space isn't as large as the turbo one wing then appears (and is) longer from the edge of the inside space. Did you notice that ? If yes how do you intend to rebuild it ?
because that is where I'm stopped now with this project (except that I can't find time now to go on on it but it's another story :eek7:)
I have some pictures of the real car to show what I mean if it is not clear enough...
(unfortunately none of my current project, but may be able to take some this week-end)
We also have to pay attention not to look too much to the street SC RS for inspiration because it also have some minor differences with the racing one.
(bumper lips, etc...)

Do you plan to build and detail the engines ?
(appears to be a sod question knowing your talent to, but humm... :p :icon16:)

TBH I didn't noticed that :D
If you have pictures that will show the trouble we'll see how to do. Is the Reinassaince wing ok? I have several friends that own the TK and I may check how Etienne fixed it.

About engines and full detail issues: I decided to go for a full detail on the Gitanes, the Esso is curbside, Martini would probably be curbside also since the livery is too cool and fluent to open panels, dunno know yet for the SC RS.... since I need several flat 6 for other projects may be curbside too those also :D

About bumpers, Phil, looks me that it mount the turbo bumper in front, and a RSR one in back: but isn't easy to see well since the dark blue...

I think I understood, Phil:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/911-SC-RS.jpg

Looks not a huge issue for me, I think I'll live with a model that has a grill (once glued and filled) 1 mm wider...

BTW a solution may be to use the 964 3.8 turbo body: those vents looks more accurate and it isn't needed to fill the gap between the wing and the grill. Sure would be quite tedious to sand down the turbo trim under the doors.....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0012.jpg

Hi gio,

what a project!!

Looks very interesting, I´ll follow this

Amazing work Gio!

So far they're 4 models to do also!


http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_1001.jpg

like you'll see this Esci 934 is spoiler and fender less....

OMG, thought you were building a horrible Panamera for a moment!:evillol:

Nice work Gio dude!

I think I understood, Phil:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/911-SC-RS.jpg

Looks not a huge issue for me, I think I'll live with a model that has a grill (once glued and filled) 1 mm wider...

BTW a solution may be to use the 964 3.8 turbo body: those vents looks more accurate and it isn't needed to fill the gap between the wing and the grill. Sure would be quite tedious to sand down the turbo trim under the doors.....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0012.jpg


Mmm not exactly what I wanted to point out... But that also may be right... In this case I missed that myself. :icon16:

let's try with your pic to show you what I mean.

SC RS "under" rear wing shape:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/911-SC-RS1.jpg

whereas turbo rear wing has a wider base to increase inside space aiming to receive the intercooler:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/911-SC-RS2.jpg

Hope you see what I mean, I'll try to find back my pictures on my hard drive when I'll be back home from work on saturday or sunday.

Thanks Phil, I think I understood: following are all replicas but 2 looks correct and the last one looks mount the standard turbo wing:

Looks good:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/911scrs.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/scRS3.jpg

Looks wrong:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/scRS14.jpg

Ok, one solution may be to try to combine the wing with a coupè bonnet, the other may be to cut the "round" and rebuild the surface with stirene and putty...

Hello! It is simply fantastic project. I when collected 911 Paris-Dakar , took a back wing from Tamiya 911 Flatnose (34070). The big work on cutting out is necessary only.
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/95056577/xlarge/97049623.jpg
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/95066310/xlarge/97324403.jpg
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/95109580/xlarge/98569835.jpg
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/95109580/xlarge/101604442.jpg
Good luck in assemblage! I will look with a great interest!

Thanks for your contribution Romik: your 911 looks great, did you posted a WIP yet? I'm impressed by the rear bumper!
The blue on decals and paint looks wrong also (decals looks the MC P961 one.. :D)

Hello! Here WIP on the Russian site:http://forum.autoinscale.com//viewtopic.php?id=3454
Colour not correct, I know. I selected colour to Museum Collection decals.
It was the unique possible variant for Paris-Dakar :)

Romik your job there is fantastic, sure it would be helpful: awesome.
I didn't understand at 100% the back window issue, may be the russian-ita translator: would be the back window gasket less, and the glass would be mounted like on some racing cars, without surround?

I liked to leave a post but its is so old that I would be banned for bump at first post there :D, I recognized some AF fellows also :D

Gionc:Thanks. It is pleasant to hear from such master as You.
Back glass should be pulled out quickly there.The rubber sealant should be from below.I have made a little not correctly.It was necessary to cut off a rubber sealant from a body.And glass to make it is more on the size.
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/503223/1984__117.jpg

Hi Gio,
right, you understood what I wanted to point out. :wink:

Romik505's Dakar Porsche is trully incredible, what a result. :naughty: :sunglasse
pictures of the model already are on my hard drive for references ! :icon16:

The dakar version rear window has nothing to deal with the road or rally version, because it isn't really a window anymore as it can be put on and off as a rally hood with fasteners on each corner.

The dakar version rear window has nothing to deal with the road or rally version, because it isn't really a window anymore as it can be put on and off as a rally hood with fasteners on each corner.

Yes yes sure, I was collecting infos.... may be useful now or then :D :naughty:

A couple steps more on the Esso SC. When everithing looked me right in primer (that obviously meant dozens passes of filler , sandpaper and primer, like ever..) I started to think at the fender'd edges and rivets.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0017.jpg

And with edges installed (0.6 mm diam. stirene rod, filled and carefully sanded)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0018.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0019.jpg

Than I finished a bit the edges, primered, and played with drill:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0024.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/911scpoker/DSC_0025.jpg

In last two I tried some 964 3.8 RSR tyers on 16" rims: tyres looks good so far, I think this is the perfect size, with a bigger "shoulder" (wall) and 15" Gottis ;)

Fantastic buddy. I really like the tires - bravo! :thumbsup:

:rofl: ;) j/k

see here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6064283&postcount=47)

fantastic buddy. I really like the tires - bravo! :thumbsup:

:rofl: ;) j/k

see here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6064283&postcount=47)

lol!!!!!!!