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Rear wheel noise........


les1
09-19-2009, 12:00 PM
I have a noise coming from what appears to be the offside rear wheel. Not loud yet but it increaes & decreases with speed. When you are slowing to a point about to stop it feels as if a wheel is oscolating rather that turning perfectly round. Any ideas on this one would be gratefully received. Wheel feels OK but something isn't 100%. I had a rear tyre repaired with a plug awhile ago just wondered if that could have anything to do with it.

Thanks in anticipation................:frown:

302NOVA
09-19-2009, 12:19 PM
What kind of a car do you have year model miles? drum or disc brakes? What does the noise sound like? a tire noise -wine -huming sound, a grinding noise? does it get worse on corners? how does it change with speed? without these answers it could be brake shoes or pads draging jack it up spin the wheel. It could be a wheel bearing, bent rim, broken cord in the tire, wheel cover. When we figure out what it is then we can proceed to the repair.

les1
09-19-2009, 02:21 PM
Hi & thanks 302NOVA. I realise that my description was a bit vague now. The car is a 2000 Mitusbishi Galant ES. It most definitly is not a brake pad grinding noise. It doesn't change at speed only gets faster or slower sound is the same. My thoughts were probably wheel bearing but it is not a metallic sound. More like a drumming as if you were running over expansion joints on a cement road. It's not a worn tyre the tread is fine except for the point that I made about the tyre repair.

RahX
09-19-2009, 10:24 PM
If the tire isn't worn reasonably flat, it will cause noise. Any cupping can cause road noise/vibration. You can get much the same noise from a wheel bearing too but I haven't seen many Galants with bad wheel bearings.

les1
09-20-2009, 03:07 AM
Thanks Rahx,

I think that tomorrow morning I will Jack the car up & spin the wheels & check the rear tyres. They are reasonably good on tread although they have been on for 25,000 miles. Thanks for your input. I know that all cars have their own weaknessess that's why I posted the thread to see if anyone picked it up immediately like with the balance shaft recently with the replacement timing belt........

RahX
09-20-2009, 10:32 AM
Do you know what cupping wear on a tire is?

loboveloz
09-20-2009, 10:40 AM
have you check to see if your wheel has a bent ?

les1
09-20-2009, 11:52 AM
Hi Rahx,
No I have not heard the term"cupping wear" related to tyres. What exactly is it?

les1
09-20-2009, 11:55 AM
Hi loboveloz,Thanks for your imput , I do have a bent wheel from sometime ago which was knocked out & has always seemed to be OK. Jacking it up & spinning the wheels should identify that noise if it is the culprit I would imagine.

RahX
09-21-2009, 08:34 PM
The bearing has to be loaded to make noise most of the time. If it is loose, you can check it with the wheel off of the ground. Cupping wear is high/low/high/low tread wear across the tire. It can be inside or outside or across the tire in a variety of different patterns. If the tread is flat then that probably isnt your problem. You can run your hand across the surface and feel to see if there is unevenness in the tread.

les1
09-22-2009, 01:00 PM
Hi RahX,

Thanks again for the info. Jacked up the car yesterday. No cupping of tyres the rear ones are worn even & flat. Front ones, nearside is off track a little, sometime ago dropped into a pot hole. Mitsubishi hammered out the wheel, refitted the tyre & it has been as good as gold ever since. Except the wear showing now.
Spun all wheels can hear a slight bind on the brake shoes on one revolution of rear wheels. Front wheels do not spin as freely otherwise nothing seems unusual. Is that normal?

Wheels seem firm enough no play on an top to bottom or side to side pressure. Would you feel wheel bearing by trying to wiggle the wheels side to side or top to bottom when jacked up or only by removing the wheel? :confused:

RahX
09-22-2009, 07:47 PM
If it is really bad, there will be play. The front wheels won't turn easily because they are connected to the transaxle and you're turning the differential over when you spin one. The rears should spin freely with the exception of a slight bit of brake drag which is normal. Inside edge wear can be alignment but more often than not it is from not rotating the tires enough. Now, probably the easiest way to diagnose which wheel bearing is noisy is to have someone drive and weave fairly tightly to load one wheel then the other for a few seconds. Whichever wheel makes roaring/rumbling noise is bad.

les1
09-23-2009, 01:56 AM
Thanks again Rahx, I will try the weaving & listening...

302NOVA
09-23-2009, 09:12 PM
Rotate the tire and wheel to a differant location to see if it still makes noise in the same location. I had a wheel bearing go bad in the back and it sounded just like a truck tire back there when I put the new bearing in no more noise! Sometimes Bearings only make noise under the right load. Let me know what happens when you put a differant tire and wheel back there where the noise is coming from!.....302Nova

les1
09-24-2009, 07:01 AM
Thanks 302NOVA I will try that.....

les1
09-29-2009, 08:19 AM
Hi Rahx,

Swopped front nearside wheel & tyre with rear offside today. Only thing that appears dubious is that the front discs appear that they are loose. I do not know if this is normal but it feels as if without the Caliper on you could just remove the disc. There is movement on both fronts. I know & understand that the wheel cannot come off because of the wheel itself but I always thought that they were firm with no movement. Otherwise on the weaving from hard right to hard left no noise which I imagine rules out the bearings. One thing that I did notice is that the rear tyre may have cupping, I can't be sure if it has it is only slight not really obvious might just be my eyes. What causes cupping anyway?

RahX
09-29-2009, 09:15 PM
90% of the time it is an out of balance tire. Other causes in most common order: lack of rotation, alignment/bad shock or strut. There is a bracket that your caliper bolts to that should keep your rotor from coming off so don't worry about it being loose with your wheel off, it is fairly normal. With your wheel tight, it is securely sandwiched between the wheel and the hub.

les1
09-30-2009, 03:14 AM
Hi Rahx & thanks,

I guess I will just have to keep my eye on things for a while & see if it gets any louder. thanks again.

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