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Roca46
07-17-2009, 02:53 PM
Hi mates! I'm so excited I didn't started a new thread for a long period and here I am! :lol2:

Well after a long time of relax making a few builds of airplanes and other projects I decided to start a new bike project because I was very inspired by a lot of people in that forum with their beautiful work and their beautiful pictures, thank you so much mates!

Let's talk about this project.. I don't have ideas in mind so I will try to improvise, what I have in mind is to detail the bike a little bit but don't know in which limit.
There are only 3 pictures but as I have uploaded them on my website I thought to share them with you people of this forum.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf1.jpg

I spend 2 days creating this electric scheme from the repair manual.
http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf2.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf3.jpg

I don't know when I will post more pictures because I have some small work to do yet with a couple of aircraft and a couple of cars so I will try to start this as soon as possible.

Bye!
Roca.

Fazer1006
07-17-2009, 04:44 PM
Go for it Roca :smile:
There's never enough bikes being built!:headshake
Nice detail work for the wiring & will be useful for me for my next build of a R1
Mark :licka:

ketje
07-18-2009, 01:21 AM
Hey Roca

I'm curious where you will go with this built. I've got this kit also and will be watching this one.

Good luck

joelwideqvist
07-20-2009, 01:04 PM
Man, this is going to be interesting!
So, whilst whe are awaiting the progress pics you could atleast take some time giving us some idea of your thought. Choice of paint scheme? Level of detailing (although we can guess from those teaser pics)? Any larger alterings of existing pieces or major scratchbuilding?

Feeeeeeeeeed meeeeeeee!
/Joel

Roca46
07-20-2009, 02:25 PM
Thank's mates!!

Man, this is going to be interesting!
So, whilst whe are awaiting the progress pics you could atleast take some time giving us some idea of your thought. Choice of paint scheme? Level of detailing (although we can guess from those teaser pics)? Any larger alterings of existing pieces or major scratchbuilding?

Feeeeeeeeeed meeeeeeee!
/Joel

Joel, yesterday I had a great idea in mind but still don't know how I will do it, the main idea is... imagine the bike in a hospital room with a shiny floor, white walls, just with the body removed, and some supports that hold the tank fuel and you can see the fuel tubes etc etc... and something like this behind the bike with real light... http://www.iga.es/archivos/th_298439_FOCO%20LUZ%202000.jpg
I think I will include the most important electric components on this bike, at least I have the scheme and I will follow all the wiring connection. For the colour scheme I don't know but I think that something like blue and /black combination for the wheels , frame etc...

As always I have small ideas in my head that I'm writing on a paper. I will start the kit this weekend and I will try to show you the start of the frame which I have already stripped the chrome paint from Tamiya.

Bye bye!
Roca.

Decs0105
07-21-2009, 10:55 AM
this will be awesome, can't wait!

Doc305
07-21-2009, 04:09 PM
How about workin lights? I tried doing it with 3mm LEDs for my 1/25 civic's fog lights and it came out nice. I've seen some1 here using optical cables, which for the scale seems to be appropriate. Idk, try that.

Decs0105, I'm dying to make the tail light work on the MP4/6, but I prob wont do it.

Roca46
07-21-2009, 04:39 PM
How about workin lights? I tried doing it with 3mm LEDs for my 1/25 civic's fog lights and it came out nice. I've seen some1 here using optical cables, which for the scale seems to be appropriate. Idk, try that.

Decs0105, I'm dying to make the tail light work on the MP4/6, but I prob wont do it.

Thank's all,

When I said real or working lights I say it for the lamp I will put behind the bike, I'm thinking to make a diorama with the bike on a room... but I can't tell you more because first I should have the bike almost finished. Of course I will try to simulate the real instalation of the head and rear lights.

Well for today I have only 3 photos, Just filled the interior of the chassis with epoxy putty still I need to sand it. Frame will be matt black. More photos this weekend.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf4.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf5.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf6.jpg

Roca

Roca46
07-23-2009, 09:01 AM
http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf7.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf8.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf9.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf10.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf11.jpg

joelwideqvist
07-23-2009, 02:05 PM
That oil canister is stunning!
/Joel

kans0002
07-23-2009, 02:22 PM
:bigthumb: subscribed!

John18d
07-23-2009, 06:16 PM
very nice work - I like the rear brake fluid cup. What did you use for the welds on the frame? and how did you get it to lay down thin? Every time I try to add welds they don't look correct. - John

Roca46
07-24-2009, 02:35 PM
Thank you guys, it is really hard to think what step to do next because there will be a few wires and things that need to be added before the installation of the engine to the chassis, so I'm always thinking what I'm doing what I'm going to do and what will happen then.

very nice work - I like the rear brake fluid cup. What did you use for the welds on the frame? and how did you get it to lay down thin? Every time I try to add welds they don't look correct. - John

Check this thread I posted a few images of what I use for the welds.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=943454&page=3

I promise more pictures this weekend.
Roca.

Decs0105
07-24-2009, 02:46 PM
That looks great!

Roca46
07-26-2009, 09:10 AM
Not a big update but...

I had to make a new tube on the oil refrigerator, also I have to make the oil level window on the right side of the engine and the clutch system on the lid so I hope to do it the next week.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf12.jpg

Note the small photoetched parts on the screws of the clutch lid.
http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf13.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf14.jpg

Bye!
Roca.

joelwideqvist
07-26-2009, 10:12 AM
Nice start, I guess we'll see a lot of these small "corrections" further on.
/Joel

Roca46
07-27-2009, 01:51 PM
Thank's Joel, I appreciate your comments.

Finally I finished the clutch wiring but still I have to paint the white piece which is the wire tensor.

It is very small... the difference between make this and buy a detail kit is that you just look at the instructions and know where to put the piece... but what happens when you see the real bike and then you must start thinking how to make the piece... It is really hard but I like it because it causes a great satisfaction in the end.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf15.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf16.jpg

Hope you like it.

PD: You can see a hole in the oil level of the engine, I started to detail it too so I think that the next pictures will show you that oil level.

kans0002
07-27-2009, 03:38 PM
just amazing...:eek7:

skyline7284
07-28-2009, 08:17 AM
nice bike~~~

real perfect

Roca46
07-28-2009, 01:48 PM
Thank's guys,

Just made the oil level window, I think is too low of oil :biggrin:

Also added the first wire which is the pickup coil lead, still need to put the connector but this will be done later on.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf17.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf18.jpg

Edit*** Here is the comparison of what was the oil level window before...

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf19.jpg


Roca.

ketje
07-29-2009, 01:20 AM
looking good so far roca :grinyes:

joelwideqvist
07-29-2009, 05:45 AM
That wire tensioner is fantastic! Oil level window as well. Wohaa this is great!
/Joel

Roca46
07-29-2009, 07:12 AM
Thank's mates!

I'm going to make some new things and I hope to upload more pictures tomorrow evening or on friday.

Bye!
Roca.

joelwideqvist
07-29-2009, 07:28 AM
Isn't it great to be in the early stages of a new build? Where you see all possibilities for making the kit better! I always tend to make TOO many alterations so that even the simplest project end up quite advanced...
/JOel

Roca46
07-29-2009, 08:30 AM
Isn't it great to be in the early stages of a new build? Where you see all possibilities for making the kit better! I always tend to make TOO many alterations so that even the simplest project end up quite advanced...
/JOel

Yep, and it is important on early stages to have everything on mind (and draw and take note in a paper :grinyes: ) of what is to do and to do next, because making details for a kit without a detailing kit is difficult because you need to have well planned which step goes next, for example I should put the engine to the chassis but first I need to have all the extra wires etc placed in the engine... and with a detailing kit, you have the pieces, and you have an instruction or paper that tells you how and what to do.

Anyway is difficult but as I said before, it is worth it and in the end it makes you very happy.

Roca.

joelwideqvist
07-29-2009, 09:39 AM
And happy is what you want to be, right!
Looking forward to your wiring mania,
/Joel

kaisers_phoenix
07-30-2009, 03:13 AM
Wow Roca, that oil-level addition is impressive..

Err. how is it made anyway.. PE or just bare-painted?



I'm still new here :p

Roca46
07-30-2009, 09:15 AM
Wow Roca, that oil-level addition is impressive..

Err. how is it made anyway.. PE or just bare-painted?



I'm still new here :p

Thank you mates! And welcome on AF kaisers_phoenix.

Well for that oil level I used my own created decal which simulates the black border image, and then I put the decal on a clear sheet and glued it in the inside of the engine, then painted the clear sheet with clear orange from Tamiya.

Here are a few pictures of the wiring process of the starter motor and also added a couple of wires which are the oil level sensor and the sidestand switch, I also added the speed sensor.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf20.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf21.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf22.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf23.jpg


Bye!
Roca.

stryfe101
07-30-2009, 09:48 AM
Great work so far man...I like the attention to detail, looks very spot on. I really want to do this on a ZX-14 but am having trouble locating wiring diagrams and such..where did you find yours?

Gray

Roca46
07-30-2009, 11:04 AM
Thank's Gray,

I found mine searching in google I came in those websites that are for upload files so I'm not sure if this is payware but I think it is.

You can check google by writing something like ZX-14 repair manual.

Bye!
Roca.

joelwideqvist
07-30-2009, 12:08 PM
Do a Google search for service manuals, usually you'll find people that has pdf versions.
/Joel

kaisers_phoenix
07-31-2009, 02:12 AM
Hmmm.. that's sounds almost like cheating :p, I'd earlier thought you did that thing with bare-hand and brush :p

Thanks for sharing that tips Roca :)

Roca46
07-31-2009, 01:33 PM
kaisers_phoenix, when things are so small it is almost impossible to do things by hand. Anyway I must say it was very difficult to put the transparent sheet exactly with the decal correctly placed to see it through the hole.

For today a little update,

The wire of the generator,

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf24.jpg

Carburetors,

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf25.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf26.jpg

Those Tamiya's carburetors are very poor in detail terms so I'm going to detail them and see what can I get.

I will post pictures this weekend.

Roca.

kans0002
07-31-2009, 02:04 PM
this is awesome. how do you like doing a street bike vs a motoGP bike? I had a blast doing my street Special Edition Ninja.

Stuart

Roca46
07-31-2009, 02:24 PM
this is awesome. how do you like doing a street bike vs a motoGP bike? I had a blast doing my street Special Edition Ninja.

Stuart

Thank's Stuart,

Well I prefer street bikes for a few reasons, first of all you can do to the bike anything you want like you could do in 1/1 scale at your own bike, then there are more references, there are a repair manuals and even the people has the bike so it is really easy to take note of all the details to put them on the model. Also, everyone makes Motogp bikes and the detail level nowadays is very high, so there is more difficult to make a decent bike and also with all the details which are harden to find than the street bikes. So I could say that the Motogp bikes are too much seen, on street bikes I only saw a lot of details in a few occasions because in Motogp bikes you have already a detail kit that may offer for example Top Studio. But that doesn't mean that I don't like Motogp bikes, I love them as I love those street bikes, but I spend more nice time making a street bike than a Motogp Bike, why? because It's me who is detailing the bike not Top Studio (but I have to say that those details of TS are absolutely brilliant) and of course I would use a TS kit if I'm going to do a Motogp bike those pieces are absolutely nice and well made the bike could look like very very real, so I could say that I prefer a street bike because I do the detailing myself.

Bye!
Roca.

Roca46
08-02-2009, 10:09 AM
Hello,

I have new photos of the engine almost completed, it needs more wiring , I have to add the throttle wires and few things more, I tested if it could enter to the chassis and it can!

Note the hose bands on the black fuel tubes... still I have to make the fuel pump etc etc...

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf27.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf28.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf29.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf30.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf31.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf32.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf33.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf34.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf35.jpg

I hope you like the engine, I put a lot of effort.

Roca.

joelwideqvist
08-03-2009, 06:03 AM
mmm plastic surgery!!!
/Joel

Roca46
08-06-2009, 09:34 AM
Hi Joel, here you can see the fuel pump, still needs to add electric connection and the pieces in the red circles are the protections for the fuel tank.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf36.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf37.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf38.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf39.jpg

Also I had to make the engine mount a little bit longer in order to hold the fuel pump because in the real bike it is the place.
http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf40.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf41.jpg

joelwideqvist
08-06-2009, 12:09 PM
Wonderful! Are you going to add an air box as well? I've always thought the air inlets looks a bit off without the box.
/Joel

Roca46
08-06-2009, 12:37 PM
Hi Joel,

Yes, I'm going to make the airbox and also the ignition system but still don't know if I will put the airbox directly on the bike or I will make a stand and put the different pieces on the shelves. something like this

http://www.logismarket.es/ip/carttec-carro-con-estantes-y-cajones-316988.jpg

Also there is a way that I can try to put the airbox with the lid removed allowing to see the air filter inside the airbox, but if I'm going to put the airbox on the bike I have to remove the cranckase breather which can be seen in front of the fuel filter in order to connect it to the airbox.

I have to think about it but on the next days I will try to connect some of the sensors with the main line.

Thanks for all Joel.

Roca.

Seventyseven
08-06-2009, 05:31 PM
Great work! I learn a lot from your builds, I agree about building street bikes, I went over my head building my NSR, when I found more photos, I was half-way through the build and have to rebuild a lot.......again!

Very much enjoying my SR400 kit!

Keep up the great work!

TeNKai
08-29-2009, 08:04 AM
looks great..... can't wait to see the final result...

Roca46
09-13-2009, 02:42 PM
Sorry for the delay guys...
I've been very busy and now I don't have the spare time I wish...

Just made the first try with foam of the airbox, next step will be copy it in resin and start the job of sanding and adding details.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf42.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf43.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf44.jpg

Bye!
Roca.

wuen
09-13-2009, 03:29 PM
Shock...

joelwideqvist
09-14-2009, 02:02 AM
I knew you couldn't keep your hands off that air box when mentioned...:-) I thought of it when building mine but as you have to do adjustments to the tank I skipped it. Great work Roca!
/Joel

Roca46
09-20-2009, 09:31 AM
Thank you guys!

Here is the airbox almost finished. I just still need to add some putty here and there to cover some small holes and will be done. Next to do will be to prepare and detail the interior of the fuel tank.

Not sure if will be worth to sell a kit with this airbox and the detailed tank but of course I will do a copy for maybe future projects.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf45.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf46.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf47.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf48.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf49.jpg

Hope you like it!

Roca.

PS: I may upload pictures of the real airbox soon.

MidMazar
09-20-2009, 10:33 PM
Simply beautiful!! :thumbsup: Pure inspiration at ats finest.

Decs0105
09-21-2009, 05:54 AM
Simply beautiful!! :thumbsup: Pure inspiration at ats finest.

:iagree:

joelwideqvist
09-21-2009, 07:26 AM
You, Roca, you are a magician!
My hat off for you sir!
/Joel

Roca46
09-21-2009, 01:41 PM
Thank you mates!!

This is a little bit out off topic but it seems that I finally found which will be my next project.

I said it too many times, too many works started and not finished, but everytime I work with the putty, the foam, the resin and even drawing programs I got more new techniques, so I would say that now I'm readyer than before, so once I finish this you will know which will be the next.

Cheers!
Roca.

Roca46
10-04-2009, 09:17 AM
http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf50.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf51.jpg

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf52.jpg

Photoetched screws.

http://www.rocascalemotorcycles.com/fotosblog/motos/yzfr1/yzf53.jpg

Still I have to add more detail on that electric installation.
Forgot to mention that I also have to add decals over the battery and the ignition unit.
Roca.

joelwideqvist
10-04-2009, 01:41 PM
Really nice Roca. With the battery decals the undertray will look super. Interesting to follow you getting all those hoses connected!
/Joel

ketje
10-04-2009, 02:02 PM
Nice work on the electrical wiring Roca. This will be an awesome built

John18d
10-04-2009, 04:16 PM
You have some great talent working on this R-1 Roca. Very impressive detail aded to this kit. - Thanks for sharing your modeling tips - John

geronimo77
10-05-2009, 03:32 AM
Hi Roca,

Somehow i missed this thread till now.
Great work so far. I really like the lots of details, And you are right this is modelling and not that you buy everything and just assemble it.
I will follow it now for sure :)

Regards,
G

joelwideqvist
10-05-2009, 05:59 AM
And you are right this is modelling and not that you buy everything and just assemble it.

:1:

I'm sitting here and wonder what kind of livery you will do...:rolleyes:

Decs0105
10-05-2009, 08:07 AM
That is brilliant, great work!

sportracer02
10-07-2009, 12:55 AM
Interesting details, it is fun to follow this WIP

M.Boy
10-07-2009, 04:09 PM
Interesting details, it is fun to follow this WIP

Exactly!
Like always excellent work!

Roca46
10-08-2009, 01:36 PM
Thank's all for the comments! :thumbsup:

I still don't know which livery or which scheme I'm going to make, but I don't think on adding sponsors (this isn't a racing bike is a street bike, but at least yamaha logos and letters of course)

I'm thinking of blue colour... maybe it has been seen too many times but.. is beautiful. Anyway if anyone has an scheme and want to show it to give me ideas feel free to post.


Hope to show to you more on this weekend.

Roca.

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