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jayfive

06-27-2009, 04:03 PM

just clocked this on autocars website today

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=240991&CT=V

be interesting to see the full vid

dbsf1

06-27-2009, 05:15 PM

just clocked this on autocars website today

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=240991&CT=V

be interesting to see the full vid

I would hazzard a guess at an LM or a GTR, due to the Papaya orange nature of the color :rofl: and the (straight-cut gear whine???).
I would suggest a road-converted GTR but I really don't know enough to be sure! sorry :frown:

mini magic

06-27-2009, 06:01 PM

Its a GTR. The LMs have the traditional speedo dials. Also note the huge switch array on the right hand passenger side

Does anyone else see red as well as orange paintwork? Then again it could just be the camera

How cool would it be if its 010R and Mr. Mason has decided to repaint it back to its prototype livery complete with yellow GTR script

carbuilder2002

06-27-2009, 06:47 PM

1996 GTR Certainly due to switch panel, instruments and wiper position, my guess is Mr Bridgers 16R, yes at first I saw a red tint on the RH wing but after looking at it several times the left hand door is clearly Papaya.
Cant think of any other papaya GTR in the UK at the moment unless 11R's new owner has been having the fuel cell replaced at Mclaren.

Peloton25

06-27-2009, 07:21 PM

How cool would it be if its 010R and Mr. Mason has decided to repaint it back to its prototype livery complete with yellow GTR script

That's what I am thinking. The other thing that confirms this is #10R is the gold dial to the right of the instrument cluster seen in the video. In #16R it's not there, but #10R has it. #12R also has the gold dial, but I doubt that GTR would have had the Gulf paint scheme changed.

I left comments with the video and in Steve's blog.

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

06-28-2009, 03:26 AM

First I thought #24R, then I settled on #10R with a 'new' livery, [possibly for Goodwood???]

Le Man

06-28-2009, 09:40 AM

All will be revealed............ "soon" :evillol:

hurstg01

06-28-2009, 09:52 AM

@ Goodwood?......:tongue:

mini magic

06-28-2009, 03:07 PM

awwwwwesome

hurstg01

08-09-2009, 01:55 PM

Le Man

08-09-2009, 02:18 PM

All will be revealed............ "soon" :evillol:

Like I said!!

With luck, I may be able to share more info soon :smile:

LOOKS STUNNING!!

Peloton25

08-09-2009, 02:55 PM

That's fantastic!! Which event was this?

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

08-09-2009, 02:57 PM

Erik

It was at Wilton Park, a meet with Pistonheads (check over there on the meetings/event forum (http://pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&f=65&mid=29881) for more info)

hurstg01

08-09-2009, 03:09 PM

http://img196.imagevenue.com/loc1129/th_48165_uvoutv_122_1129lo.JPG (http://img196.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=48165_uvoutv_122_1129lo.JPG)

Le Man

08-09-2009, 04:21 PM

I like the angle of this pic, that I found on flickr.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9201/380383591594e546cff3o.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/380383591594e546cff3o.jpg/)

hurstg01

08-09-2009, 04:28 PM

:grinyes: schiller3k takes some good shots :thumbsup:

F1GTRUeno

08-09-2009, 04:35 PM

That's fantastic!

Nice one Nick! :D

hurstg01

08-09-2009, 04:40 PM

andybee

08-09-2009, 10:23 PM

cool - any photographers willing to allow me to use one or two image when my new website gets launched? I'm trying to source images of all my designs.

dbsf1

08-09-2009, 10:27 PM

cool - any photographers willing to allow me to use one or two image when my new website gets launched? I'm trying to source images of all my designs.

you designed the GTR livery???!!!!! WOW! :runaround:
that's awesome!
have you done any other McLaren stuff?
(sorry if i'm repeating something here guys...)
Peace

andybee

08-09-2009, 10:37 PM

a bit ;) 14 liveries, some proposals that never sort the light of day, some styling ideas which lead to the front end of the F1 GT and quite a bit for the GP team...but that was all a looong time ago now LOL

hurstg01

08-10-2009, 02:53 AM

:wave: Welcome back Andy

payso

08-10-2009, 12:40 PM

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20406

http://www.collinsclan.co.uk/pages/Cars/wiltonhouse/images/86.jpg

hurstg01

08-10-2009, 01:55 PM

Check out the video from 4.16 onwards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA61f1glmgI)

WaZzZuPpP

08-10-2009, 02:23 PM

It looks brilliant!

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6316/10r321.jpg

carbuilder2002

08-10-2009, 06:36 PM

Is it Paint or Vinyl graphics?
All we need now are the rest of the GTR's back in their original liveries.
I read a comment somewhere stating that it was cheaper to repaint a GTR than a road car, I would have thought with the compexity of multi colour it would be more expensive assuming you were aiming for the same level of finish.

F1GTRUeno

08-11-2009, 05:45 AM

It's spot on against how it used to be isn't it? Unless anyone can tell any difference?

They need to get them back as they were, and then get in the GT90s series.

It'd be incredible to see them all on track again.

At the very least get more of them out and about on Modena trackdays and stuff like that.

Peloton25

08-11-2009, 12:04 PM

It's accurate so far as I can tell. There really aren't a whole lot of original images to compare it against though, at least not in the public domain. I'm sure McLaren have a bunch of them tucked away in the files.

As for the paint/vinyl question, it seems to me that something that would be easier to do with paint given all the compound curves on the F1's body.

Andy, do you happen to recall how the original one was done?

>8^)
ER

Le Man

08-11-2009, 02:01 PM

This is another McLaren press pic, taken from a slightly higher view point.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9499/10rpress3.th.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/10rpress3.jpg/)

Andy, I may have a slide from a press kit similar to above, if that may help.

Peloton25

08-15-2009, 02:03 AM

A great set of photos of Mason's GTR from the PH Sunday Service are here:

http://www.globalsupercars.co.uk/gallery/Shows%20and%20Events/PH%20Sunday%20Service%20Wilton%20House%20August%20 2009/index5.html

>8^)
ER

carbuilder2002

08-15-2009, 02:12 AM

Anyone else notice the addition of a rof scoop?

Peloton25

08-15-2009, 02:43 AM

The roof scoop wasn't there in the beginning of its life, but has been there for as long as Mason has owned the car and probably quite a while before that.

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ER

carbuilder2002

08-15-2009, 01:19 PM

I just maybe can't remember seeing it there in 1995, interestingly 16R is also bereft of a roof scoop.

jayfive

08-29-2009, 06:06 PM

just to clarify, it is Defo Nick Masons car that will be in next Weeks autocar, according to this weeks autocar. So hopefully they will have the full video on there website sometime after next wednesday :)

Peloton25

08-29-2009, 08:22 PM

:sarcasm1: Cool - it's always impressive when Chris gets one right for a change. :p :lol2: :p

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ER

tentacles1

09-02-2009, 04:31 AM

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/McLaren-F1/242838/

hurstg01

09-02-2009, 04:41 AM

Nice vid (http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=242844&CT=V)

hurstg01

09-02-2009, 09:19 AM

Le Man

09-02-2009, 09:22 AM

Short, but interesting article in todays Autocar.

Like I said previously. all will be revealed. Like how a Swedish journo had crashed #10R recently and that it has had a lot of work done to bring it back up to this excellent standard of finish.

Interesting to read that it still has some rear end handling issues, I have only just found out, that to put a 96 GTR on the road, it needs to be fitted with a 95 spec GTR gearbox for the required suspension geometry and ride height. Which explains some of the £200,000 GBP road conversion for 13R.

"ITS THE GEARING THAT.LL CATCH YOU OUT" Sounds like my kind of car :evillol:

Peloton25

09-02-2009, 10:21 AM

Interesting too that the roll cage has now been removed from the car during this refit.

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ER

andybee

09-02-2009, 08:25 PM

I think (but I maybe wrong) 10R originally had the 95 bodywork when it was launched. Not sure if it was technically a 96 spec car at that point. Been updated with 96 doors, scoop and I assume everything else since of course.

V.Little piece I wrote on Speedhunters re the creation of the livery if you are interested http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/09/02/video-roll-gt-gt-mclaren-f1-gtr-10r.aspx

carbuilder2002

09-03-2009, 02:40 PM

Hmm you have me curious, what do you mean 96 doors I understood the only difference was a lighter layup but no visable diffferences?

hurstg01

09-05-2009, 11:01 AM

It's interesting to note they say the car is going back to Mclaren to have a mild re-think on the 'lively rear' [read:suspension]. Perhaps the Swede spun the car and hit the rear, knocking out the suspension? I can't recall anyone stating this much about #10R's handling before.......

carbuilder2002

09-05-2009, 03:41 PM

In his book Into The Red it comments on the somewhat twitchy nature of the beast.

hurstg01

09-05-2009, 05:03 PM

In his book Into The Red it comments on the somewhat twitchy nature of the beast.

I read my copy as soon as I bought it and it's been stored ever since - perhaps It's time to dust it off :p

andybee

09-06-2009, 10:55 PM

Hmm you have me curious, what do you mean 96 doors I understood the only difference was a lighter layup but no visable diffferences?

Sorry, confused the issue, I meant the door side skirt.

IIRC was a different spec, but think it was the layup (can't remember), but 96 doors didn't have the bottom side skirt, which was fixed on the 95 doors. Obviously, these could have been removed in 96 during a refit/paint etc.

The car had it on its launch image and IIRC also the first couple of tests, but was then retro-fitted to full 96 spec.

carbuilder2002

09-07-2009, 05:16 PM

Youre right I had clean forgotten about the skirts not being on 1996 cars and they had a different bottom treatment on the luggage doors also.

Le Man

09-08-2009, 02:48 PM

Youre right I had clean forgotten about the skirts not being on 1996 cars and they had a different bottom treatment on the luggage doors also.

The 96 spec GTR,s did run with the 95 spec skirts from the start of the season till LeMans week. The new spec, which I think was an aero update? and was used mainly by the BMW/Fina cars. Then it was a mix of use, for the rest of the year,
03R & 06R ran with DPR spec door ducts and luggage doors all season.

hurstg01

09-10-2009, 01:45 PM

It was a man from Norway apparently, not Sweden, who had an 'off' in the car.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/ArnsteinLandsem.jpg

Peloton25

09-10-2009, 02:03 PM

You'll need to rehost that image as they have blocked viewing unless someone is registered for their website.

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ER

hurstg01

09-10-2009, 02:18 PM

All changed :)

Peloton25

09-10-2009, 03:52 PM

That's got to be rough to have on your legacy. :shakehead

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ER

hurstg01

09-10-2009, 04:05 PM

Some scans from a Norwegian Magazine 'Autofil'

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8829/skann0001.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8584/skann0004.jpghttp://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5444/skann0003.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9095/skann0005.jpghttp://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4694/skann0006.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/793/skann0008.jpghttp://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8017/skann0009.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5313/skann0007.jpg

Le Man

09-10-2009, 06:22 PM

Interesting read!!

Someone told me, that the journo is now hiding on.......

"The dark side of the moon"

:sarcasmsign:

OK, I know crashing can happen to anyone, I DO IT ALL THE TIME :runaround: I,d rather have a McLaren GTR crash on my CV, Than crashing a Reliant robin up a tree.:naughty: