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2003 WStar Battery drainbowtie_brain 05-13-2009, 08:35 PM We bought our 03 Limited last Jan with 85,000 on it. Recently, it has developed a power drain while turned off. The battery and alternator have been checked, the battery is new as of Nov 08. We can jump start it and it runs fine, but after being parked for less than an hour, it won't crank. I have tried turning off the radio, power doors and dome lites with no success. I have checked the power ports for foreign materials (did ya ever get a penny stuck in one?). I pulled fuses 1 - 6 with a charger attached, watching the gauge for a dip when I pulled each one. Any suggestions? rjeffreeze 05-13-2009, 09:06 PM Sounds like a bum battery to me. Check out my recent post: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=932985 If you're still convinced it's not the battery, then you can check for current drain using Ford's TSB on the subject. Jeckler 05-13-2009, 10:44 PM If the battery's negative terminal is disconnected for that same hour, then reconnected, it'll start? BTW: An hour isn't a very long time. That's one hell of a drain if that's the case. You're talking every light in the car, including headlights. catvents 05-13-2009, 11:12 PM Like Rjeffreeze, I would really suspect the battery, even if it is not very old. A load test of it would certainly comfirm if it is wrong. Not only a voltage test. ( all this according that your alternator is charging properly. (13.5 v.+) bowtie_brain 05-17-2009, 01:44 PM Thanks. Load test on the batt, and on the alternator revealed that it exceeds the rating of the battery - 895 cca vs a rating of 850 cca. Charging system is at 14.14 V under load. I will check switches and amperage draw while shut down and see what I can find. Tahnks for the input everyone. CnlK 05-18-2009, 09:53 PM Think there was another post about the rear wiper drawing amps when vehicle was off. Personally I had a bad alternator that drew 4.5amps when vehicle was off. The brake on/off switches are also know to stick, you probably would have noticed the brakes lights on. Darrell T 05-27-2009, 07:57 PM I have a 2001 wstar with a battery drain problem. i disconnected the positive cable from the battery, put a test light on the positive post and the alligator clip on the positive clamp. i then pulled each fuse one by one and the light never went out. i was told you could ceck your system this way - is this an accurate test or not? also disconnected alternator and starter and still had power at the light. the only time i could get the light to go out was by disconnecting the positive cable from main fuse box. should that main fuse box be "hot" when positive side is disconnected? Thanks for any suggestions... 12Ounce 05-27-2009, 08:04 PM Darrell T, you are on the right track ... Pull all the fuses, relays, and diodes ... ??? ... if you still have current draw, there is a leakage somewhere. But I bet you will not have to go that far. Darrell T 05-27-2009, 08:55 PM to 12Ounce- i have tried all of that. every fuse, diodes and relays. the only time i get the test light to go out is when i disconnect the positive battery cable from the main fuse box. do you have any other ideas or suggestions? 12Ounce 05-27-2009, 09:31 PM Did you pull them "all together" ... or "one at a time"? Darrell T 05-27-2009, 09:40 PM I tested them one at a time. 12Ounce 05-27-2009, 09:46 PM ... pull them all together, and try again. Darrell T 05-27-2009, 09:56 PM Pull ALL the fusses out at the same time? What will that tell me? 12Ounce 05-27-2009, 10:17 PM Pull them all ... test and observe ... ...and then reinstall one fuse or relay ... test and observe ... remove that fuse or relay, install another ... test and observe... .... etc, etc. Divide the problem. wiswind 05-27-2009, 10:22 PM I only have access to the wiring diagram for my '96. First thing that I want to say is that the pulling fuses one at a time, as you did, is a very good test. The test has told you that the drain is NOT on those circuits. I see the + power going straight to the alternator through "fusible links" A & B, these are not fuses, but are links The + power also goes directly to the starter motor solenoid, no fuse, no fusible links.....a big red wire. Power from the ignition switch, smaller Red with Light Blue Stripe wire, is supposed to pull in the "relay" contacts. This wire passes through the Transmission Range Sensor (Neutral Safety Switch). Do you have the Anti-Theft system?....That puts a "Starter Interrupt Relay) in line before the Transmission Range Sensor......activated by the antitheft control module. I would try disconnecting the red wire from the Starter, and see if that makes any difference. It looks like the ignition switch and headlights do not go through fuses.....so maybe disconnecting the healight switch at the dashboard? There is a 20 amp circuit breaker INSIDE the headlight switch. Selectron 05-27-2009, 10:45 PM Hi Darrell, welcome to the forum. On many vehicles, disconnecting the battery negative terminal and then inserting a multimeter set to its current range, or a 12V test lamp, is a legitimate way to monitor the quiescent current (current which flows when the ignition and accessories are switched off). However it isn't that straightforward on the Windstar, because after connecting your meter or test lamp, there's a period of five minutes during which some 550mA will flow (2001 and later models) or some 850mA (1999 and 2000 models). After five minutes that will fall to between 350 to 450 mA for approximately twenty-five minutes, at which time the vehicle will enter the 'sleep' mode where the maximum current flow will be around 25 to 30mA (actually around 15mA steady, peaking briefly at 25 to 30mA each time the anti-theft LED flashes). So what you're seeing might be just the normal high current (around half an amp) which flows prior to the vehicle entering sleep mode. It's only after thirty minutes or so that you get a true indication of the real quiescent current drain. I'm not sure that chasing excessive current drain is a job I'd want to tackle with a test lamp - a multimeter would be more appropriate, unless it really is a high drain indeed. Can you could tell us what symptoms you have which cause you to believe you have excessive current drain, how long the problem has been ongoing, etc. JsnHardy 06-14-2009, 02:45 AM I had this exact same problem. I searched high and low on the internet, pulled fuses, traced wiring switched batteries, stole candy from babies, here is what I found out. It was the alternator. I did not know that an alternator could drain a battery, I thought they were only capable of charging, which threw me for a loop, because it charged fine while it was running. It would drain the battery in under an hour. I even bought a multimeter, but I couldn't figure out how to work the stupid thing. Here is what I did, I unplugged the alternator, and it stayed charged for several days. So I knew that was it. I changed the regulator in the alternator, (requires opening the alternator on mine.) and it has worked great since then. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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