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360spider
01-14-2009, 11:39 PM
Even though I usually don't build motorcycles, I've been wanting to build a bike for some time now, and not one of those Tamiya crotch-rockets, but rather an older bike, and this BMW looked like a perfect project. The kit is an older Gunze Sangyo Hi-Tech kit, most of it is white metal (very crude castings, worse than MFH), but relatively highly detailed, with various materials used.

I started with cleaning all the white metal to make it look decent and prepare it for primer.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/DSC_7014.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/DSC_7024.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/DSC_7056.jpg

Plastic parts were also cleaned. They are much better molded than white metal, makes me think why Gunze decided on white metal after all. I also assembled the engine and filled all imperfections - ready for paint.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/DSC_7027.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/DSC_7046.jpg

Finally, wheels were stripped of chrome, and assembled. Each individual spoke was glued into the rim. the fit is quite bad, so it took a while to get every spoke right, and rims to fit together. Then rim halves wouldn't fit to each other, and to the tire.... spent couple of hours before I could get them to fit and match...bad design for sure. So far this kit is a fit "disaster"! Finally, a mock up:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/DSC_7005.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/DSC_7066.jpg

klutz_100
01-15-2009, 03:16 AM
Stop moaning! :evillol:

It looks great of course :) Nice to see you playing with other subjects and I am sure this will be as cool as ever :thumbsup:

I am totally enamored with the Gunze Indian Scout kit that was recently shown here on AF and have been trying to find one at a (fairly) reasonable price.

jano11
01-15-2009, 09:41 AM
Wow, nice project. :thumbsup:
It already looks great, with the cleaned WM parts and those spoke wheels!

PS: I might try to find one of this beautiful boxer engined BMW's too, but as Steven I'm already chasing one of those Indian Scouts first.

CrateCruncher
01-15-2009, 09:43 AM
Great choice and a wonderful start! I love this bike's Earl's forks. They're wild.

I'm sure you've noticed the seat. When they did the rubber parts tree they configured the seat upside down and there are three HUGE ejecter pin scars right in the middle of the seats exposed surface. Milliput?

I'll be glued to this one. I can't wait to see where you go with it!

360spider
01-15-2009, 12:38 PM
Great choice and a wonderful start! I love this bike's Earl's forks. They're wild.

I'm sure you've noticed the seat. When they did the rubber parts tree they configured the seat upside down and there are three HUGE ejecter pin scars right in the middle of the seats exposed surface. Milliput?

I'll be glued to this one. I can't wait to see where you go with it!

Actually, the seat is going to be replaced with two scratchbuilt Denfeld seats.

Thanks!

joelwideqvist
01-15-2009, 12:40 PM
Hi, and welcome to this sub part of AF, you won't regret it and I bet there will be more bikes in your collection further on.
Looks like a fun kit. Any ref pics of what we can expect? May I also ask how much you have to pay for one of Gunze's "high tech"-kits?
/Joel

360spider
01-18-2009, 02:20 PM
Hi, and welcome to this sub part of AF, you won't regret it and I bet there will be more bikes in your collection further on.
Looks like a fun kit. Any ref pics of what we can expect? May I also ask how much you have to pay for one of Gunze's "high tech"-kits?
/Joel

Hi Joel,

I've built few bikes before, some are even on my web-page. I like building bikes, they are a great change of pace, and let me learn different modeling techniques. I've got a few pics of the original, since I'm building this for a guy as replica of his bike. he supplied the kit, so I have no idea how much it is worth right now. Here is couple pics of the original:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/bike01.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/bike02.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/bike03.jpg

360spider
01-18-2009, 04:35 PM
Ok, an update. Got most of the parts painted - chrome pieces were covered with Alclad II Chrome, wheels chromed and assembled.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike4.jpg

Engine was painted with MM Steel metalizer and buffed. All body and frame pieces were painted with Tamiya racing white and clearcoated with 2K clear.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike5.jpg

Now I need to put this all together and wire/plumb the thing. It is going real well actually.

davesans
01-18-2009, 09:09 PM
Awesome stuff keep the updates coming

joelwideqvist
01-19-2009, 03:44 PM
Thanks for the input. The original looks great in that creamy white color. Nice to have a 1:1 reference to work with!
/Joel

360spider
01-19-2009, 05:30 PM
Got more done today - engine is in, and mostly wired and plumbed. I also started assembling the rest of frame components, and rear wheels is in.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bmwr69s1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bmwr69s2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bmwr69s3.jpg

The Sheene Machine
01-20-2009, 07:45 AM
Clinically clean as always Alex. It's lovely to see something different being built..I do love these old bikes. They have such character.

joelwideqvist
01-20-2009, 03:28 PM
Does the kit come with those seats from the 1:1 bike? Or, are we looking forward to some scratch building?
/Joel

360spider
01-20-2009, 04:41 PM
Does the kit come with those seats from the 1:1 bike? Or, are we looking forward to some scratch building?
/Joel


Yeah, the seats will be scratchbuilt :-)

joelwideqvist
01-21-2009, 04:31 AM
Oh lord, where's my bag of popcorn...
/Joel

gionc
01-21-2009, 11:05 AM
It's superb, Alex: speaking of your job and the real stuff too. Great.

360spider
02-19-2009, 05:35 PM
Thanks guys, a bit of an update - mufflers are on, front fork is mostly assembled, mostly assembly work from here on.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike01.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike02.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike03.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike04.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike05.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike06.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike07.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike08.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/bike09.jpg

jano11
02-19-2009, 06:57 PM
I love the looks of this bike (and model)!
I guess it's very joyful to build such a model.

360spider
02-19-2009, 09:14 PM
I love the looks of this bike (and model)!
I guess it's very joyful to build such a model.

It is actually very frustrating. The model design is very poor, and I'm having really hard time putting it together. Nothing fits, not a single partfits as it should. Instructions are vague at best, and I had to fabricate few parts from scratch just to continue building. I would not recommend this kit to anyone :-) There. :eek7:

jano11
02-20-2009, 04:00 AM
It is actually very frustrating. The model design is very poor, and I'm having really hard time putting it together. Nothing fits, not a single partfits as it should. Instructions are vague at best, and I had to fabricate few parts from scratch just to continue building. I would not recommend this kit to anyone :-) There. :eek7:

:eek: That, I was not expecting it!
Thanks for letting me know.:smile:

Kudos for such a beautiful build in these conditions! :thumbsup:

joelwideqvist
02-20-2009, 12:24 PM
Color is wonderful! Great work on such a troublesome object. Let's see some seats!!!
/Joel

ALEX GAROLI
02-20-2009, 01:42 PM
I really like that bike model, I think is worth It the extra work, because is a very unique bike, I would like to build one of those myself because my father had one in the 70's, Ill try to find some pictures of it.
Keep the grat job!

Golden_Cross
02-23-2009, 07:11 PM
WOW...You can't tell by the pics this kit has a "parts fit" problem...VERY Nice work..It looks like those wheels could have been a real pain in thehttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_11_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk513DIUS)!!! You made them look outstanding..Great Work Alex!!!





http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb112&pp=ZNxmk513DIUS (http://www.smileycentral.com/dl/index.jhtml?partner=ZSzeb112_ZNxmk513DIUS&utm_id=7920)

360spider
08-23-2009, 10:33 PM
All right, time for another update on this one guys.
I have done this few months ago actually, only now realized that I have never posted pictures....
Bike is still not quite done, but there are only few minor things left.

Real bike that I'm making a replica of has Denfeld seats, so I had to scratchbuild the seats. Used Tamiya Epoxy putty to create a raw shape, then carefully shaped and sanded then to make them look like the ones on the pic. They are not 100% match, but it was hard to make them without proper dimensions.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/00.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/01.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/02.jpg

Then the seats were primed, masked, and sprayed with Rust-Oleum textured paint to replicate the texture of the real deal:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/03.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/04.jpg

Painted seats. Still need a coat of flat clear on them, and few other things, but I think they look rather close.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/05.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/jter/BMW%20R69/06.jpg

joelwideqvist
08-24-2009, 02:11 AM
oooh, they look super! Very nice work, a Denfeld script and we'd be looking at an 100 % match.
/Joel

ALEX GAROLI
10-08-2009, 11:03 PM
I found some pictures of two bmw my father had, I is a really beautifull bike.
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/139/imagen12o.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3387/imagen13z.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/472/imagen11f.jpg

kans0002
10-09-2009, 02:58 PM
Looking awesome, Alex. After checking out your web site I have to admit...I am a little shocked this isn't rossa corso red!:rofl:

DOCQUINO
12-20-2009, 05:25 PM
IŽd like you to post more images of the seats and completed work. I have the same bike on the self and i dont like the box seat. Ill like to do the same than you but black bike. Good work.

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