Pocher F40 plus Autograph transkit - Car Forums and Automotive Chat

tony126c2

01-08-2009, 02:33 PM

M-Tuning

01-08-2009, 02:42 PM

Looks familiar :D

Weer een nederlander er bij hier :smokin:

tony126c2

01-08-2009, 03:31 PM

Looks familiar :D

Weer een nederlander er bij hier :smokin:

I thought I was the only one :biggrin: :biggrin: Ik heb al meer Brouwers gedetecteerd

robrex

01-08-2009, 03:44 PM

That's very impressive.

CrateCruncher

01-08-2009, 05:20 PM

Hew-Yeah! I like my Pocher's big and complicated and this one delivers. I have one of these babies on the shelf waiting for a spare 24 months of building time. Tony, I built the F40 stock before the Autograph transkit was available and I remember none of the body slats were open. That is some impressive die-cast grinding on your part! Nice soldering on those rotors too.

I hear the intake manifold detail is kinda complicated. Any insights you feel like sharing?

tony126c2

01-08-2009, 05:41 PM

@Rob

Thanks!

@crate cruncher

That is some impressive die-cast grinding on your part!

Worst part of the project :screwy::tongue:

Any insights you feel like sharing?

I could not think of any particular difficulties. The only thing I can say is that the TK has a very poor manual so you have to figure out a lot yourself

bmwmech1

01-10-2009, 01:46 PM

Hey Tony, found your WIP! You've gotten more finished since the last time I saw it... looking excellent! I'm working on the intake manifold and the suspension mounting points on mine. Lots of fabrication, not much progress:frown:!
Thanks for your well wishes about my baby and my father... they're both doing much better! Welcome again!!!

BM1

tony126c2

01-10-2009, 04:28 PM

Hi Garey,

Thanks for the warm welcome. The progress on the F40 is slow...so many labour intensive little jobs with less to no visible progress. This afternoon I worked 2 hours to get #44 in its place

http://www.ricambiamerica.com/images/diagrams/full/F40_109.jpg

Tomorrow I have to put #43 in place which should vertically and horizontally fit perfect with the rear hood :tongue:

Ton

CrateCruncher

01-10-2009, 05:04 PM

tony126c2

01-10-2009, 06:13 PM

Did you start with a donor car or an unassembled F40 kit? I bought my tk in a package deal with an F40 kit. Then as luck would have it, a guy offered me a built F40 for $100 so I can go either way on mine.

I started with an unassembled car..so no messed up parts by builders with less skills :tongue: Although you see sometimes mint build cars which can unassembled without much problems. Did you start with your TK alkready?

CrateCruncher

01-10-2009, 06:45 PM

I haven't started mine. I'll do it one day but it's going to be a loooong project that takes up a lot of room so I'm in no hurry. It's from the very first Speedline issue. I just looked at the box (a gray plastic tub) and it says 28/200 so I guess this is only the 28th of the first run Uli did. I'm sure yours has many updates and changes since mine was produced.

I still have an Alfa Monza about 70% complete needing to be finished before I can start another 1/8 without a guilty conscience.

Here are some interesting links:
http://www.scaleautoworks.com/f40transkitphotos.htm
http://wc1.worldcrossing.com/WebX?1@@.eebc28c
http://www.autographmodel.com/Englisch/Englisch.htm

tony126c2

01-11-2009, 04:59 AM

I'm sure yours has many updates and changes since mine was produced.
The 2nd edition only got an update on the hubs and the speedline wheels...but that is everything as far as I know

http://autographmodel.de/Deutsch/D-M1-8/D_OZTranskit/Grosse-Bilder/Vorderradnabe-gross.jpg

I still have an Alfa Monza about 70% complete needing
I have one which is 0% complete ...I have some stock in case the source dries up :rofl:

tony126c2

01-14-2009, 11:55 AM

It is assembly time now. After painting the body I can start with assembling all the parts that are waiting at the shelf.
Her are pictures of the dryfit and the assembling of the oil coolers (engine and transmission)

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0141.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0143a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0144a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0173a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0175a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0176a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0177.jpg

regards

Ton

rollin80s

01-14-2009, 05:50 PM

:worshippy detail is awesome.
looks so realistic. keep it up bro.

brando590

01-14-2009, 08:31 PM

Damn! Ive seen some "super-detailed" kits but this has got to be the most perfectly executed Ive seen. It looks 100% real. Beautiful job.:ylsuper:

Captain Mark

01-14-2009, 10:18 PM

Holy cow!

Keep us posted...

bmwmech1

01-17-2009, 08:12 AM

Boy, it's really looking good, Ton. This is the furthest I've ever seen a Pocher F40 WIP go. Keep it up man!

BM1

tony126c2

01-17-2009, 09:39 AM

Guys, thanks for the kind words

Boy, it's really looking good, Ton. This is the furthest I've ever seen a Pocher F40 WIP go. Keep it up man!

I hope I can show it to you in 2 or 3 months completely finished :smile: I know it will be one of the very few fully completed :wink: But you must the next one !!

bmwmech1

01-20-2009, 07:54 PM

Guys, thanks for the kind words

I hope I can show it to you in 2 or 3 months completely finished :smile: I know it will be one of the very few fully completed :wink: But you must the next one !!

Yes, but I fear mine is around a year away from completion...:crying:

BM1

tony126c2

01-26-2009, 02:20 PM

Some progress pictures: chassis is ready now

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0178a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0181a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0183a%7E0.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0184a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0184b.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0186b.jpg[/url]

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0187a.jpg

ddtham

01-26-2009, 02:40 PM

Everytime I see "Pocher" in the thread title, I always try not too look, because I know I'll get hooked. The kit certainly worth the price, and you did a wonderful justice to it.

rollin80s

01-26-2009, 03:36 PM

:eek7: simply amazing. can't wait to see it done.

brando590

01-26-2009, 10:30 PM

I know ive seen that yellow paint on the nuts and bolts of cars so its a really nice touch. What is the purpose of it on real cars?

AustinMartin

01-26-2009, 10:59 PM

What is the purpose of it on real cars?

Saying that the bolt is tightened and ready to go.

tony126c2

01-27-2009, 04:54 AM

Thanks guys for your nice words

I always try not too look, because I know I'll get hooked.

I know what you mean :iceslolan...but if you want to build one now is the time to buy one...sources are slowly drying up

mrawl

01-27-2009, 05:05 AM

Wow! It looks incredible. How big is it - length, front to back?

tony126c2

01-27-2009, 05:33 AM

Wow! It looks incredible. How big is it - length, front to back?

57 centimeters....almost 2 feet?

ffejjeff

01-27-2009, 07:17 AM

wow what a detail,awesome!

tony126c2

02-28-2009, 07:50 AM

Exactly a year ago I started with the build of this car.

Here are some birthday pictures!

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0193.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0194.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0195.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0196.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0197.jpg

CrateCruncher

02-28-2009, 09:38 AM

Very nice Tony! It won't be long now. How do you plan to display it once finished?

tony126c2

02-28-2009, 09:48 AM

Very nice Tony! It won't be long now. How do you plan to display it once finished?

My estimation is that I need another couple of hundred hours :biggrin: It will be dispayed in a display case protected against (little) fingers and dust

tony126c2

04-18-2009, 06:50 PM

janositamas

04-19-2009, 03:18 AM

That's insane, those seats are fabulous!

Martin S

04-19-2009, 05:29 AM

seatbelts look awesome.

gtziaf

04-19-2009, 06:08 AM

Excellent Work!

tony126c2

04-23-2009, 10:12 AM

Thanks guys for all your nice words...these keep me going on after 518 hours building. Here is another small update

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0222.jpg

mrawl

04-24-2009, 04:27 AM

That is absolutely amazing! How many of the 518 hours did that account for? Looks like quite a few.

tony126c2

04-24-2009, 04:41 AM

15.5 hours :)

tony126c2

05-07-2009, 11:23 AM

I had some problem during the assembly: Pocher cars are partly screwed together with sometime large screws with this result

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0223a.jpg

After drilling a whole, filling it with 2K paint, sanding and polishing the problem is over

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0224.jpg

Than I could go on with assembling

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0225.jpg

and soldering the fuel tanks

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0226.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0227.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0228.jpg

That´s for now

mrawl

05-08-2009, 04:40 AM

Wild! The tank rocks. You know, I can still see that repair mark - I think you better do that side of the car (at least) all over again...

tony126c2

05-08-2009, 08:37 AM

Wild! The tank rocks. You know, I can still see that repair mark - I think you better do that side of the car (at least) all over again...

Thanks Mark. I considered it but than I had to dismantle the cockpit for a 100% repair....after 540 hrs of building I except 98% :iceslolan

Slash.Snakepit

05-08-2009, 11:09 PM

That is a work of art my friend!

Congratulations all the way.

Do you have by any chance an 1/24 or 1/18 F40 to take a picture along with that monster?

tony126c2

05-09-2009, 04:20 AM

Do you have by any chance an 1/24 or 1/18 F40 to take a picture along with that monster?

Thanks! I like your idea for the final pictures

indecentkikogt

05-09-2009, 06:04 PM

great build of an amazing machine, keep up the good work

tony126c2

05-18-2009, 02:15 PM

antonio-sup

05-18-2009, 04:23 PM

I can't bielive that it's a 1:24 scale model O_O !
it looks... huh... incredible! :D
Just like a real F40!
keep us updated. ;)
and i will try to use your topic as tutorial if i will have the F40 Tamiya model kit. :-)

speedphreak

05-20-2009, 05:15 PM

Holy crap!

tony126c2

06-14-2009, 05:45 AM

I had hoped that I could make a smooth ending to this project..all the hurdles seem to be taken...but unfortunately

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0248.jpg

The transkit required that the original door lock should be removed but after that the doors would not close any more. But after a lot of experimenting it looks like this now: they close perfectly.

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0256.jpg

And the solution are Neodynium Magnets, very small, very strong

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0258.jpg

Slash.Snakepit

06-15-2009, 12:24 AM

Great great great!

That's got to be the best solution ever...how did you think of it?

:runaround::runaround::runaround:

Keep it going!

I can't bielive that it's a 1:24 scale model O_O !

That's because it isn't...is 1/8...huge thing!!

tony126c2

06-15-2009, 02:52 AM

Great great great!

That's got to be the best solution ever...how did you think of it?

:runaround::runaround::runaround:

Keep it going!

That's because it isn't...is 1/8...huge thing!!

Someone pointed me to the magnets...I had never heard about them :iceslolan I tried it firstly with magnet foil but that was to weak. The magnets I used have "holding power" of 300 grams (metric) each! The smallest I bought are discs (2 to 1 mm) with a "holding power" of 140 grams (metric) per magnet. With that size you can use it with 1:24 builds!

tuned.by.twenty

06-15-2009, 07:33 PM

Excellent idea to use the magnets! I'll have to keep it in mind.

MidMazar

06-16-2009, 01:50 PM

I love seeing these pocher kits built. You can add so much detail since its soo big. Its a shame they discontinued them. Keep us posted.

PS the magnet trick is a great idea!

tony126c2

06-16-2009, 02:17 PM

Its a shame they discontinued them.

True..but nowadays it is not feasible any more. If they were manufactured today the price would be much higher than the current Ebay prices. Labour is not as cheap any more as 20/30 years ago. Initially all the parts were made in small home factories by families who could not find work in the harsh seventies with much unemployment in northern Italy.

tony126c2

06-24-2009, 02:02 PM

Here is probably my last update before finishing this Project

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0259.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0262.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0267.jpg

Here are the last stages I have to do

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/2do6.jpg

snk33y

07-02-2009, 06:30 PM

My favourite Ferrari of all time! I've always wanted one of these kits :) absolute mind boggling details, Well done!

tony126c2

07-08-2009, 02:56 PM

The end of this project is there. But we keep her under the cover until she beautiful and shining :)

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0283a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0285a.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0286.jpg

kans0002

07-08-2009, 03:46 PM

now that is just MEAN! I want to see her all...:grinno:

you have done an absolutly fantastic job, congrats!

snk33y

07-08-2009, 06:49 PM

Epic W.I.P!! lets see this baby hehehe

tony126c2

07-09-2009, 05:04 AM

Thanks guys for the nice words.

Slash.Snakepit

07-09-2009, 08:13 AM

That is G R E A T !

Congratulations and thanks for sharing that with us!

Do not forget to take a pic with a 1/24 or 1/18 with it.

Cheers

tony126c2

07-09-2009, 01:52 PM

Twowheelsrule

07-09-2009, 10:52 PM

Absolutely amazing! I loved watching the build-up and the finished product is very realistic!

Good job,
TW

tuned.by.twenty

07-10-2009, 12:28 AM

This is really impressive. I don't really know how to express just how cool this is, other than saying that.

tony126c2

07-10-2009, 03:47 AM

Thanks again for your kind words!

kans0002

07-10-2009, 11:07 AM

hey tony...I think someone else already asked, but can you possibly take some pics with that beast next to a 1/24 just for a size comparison?

thanks and unbelievable job,

Stuart

stump

07-10-2009, 09:33 PM

Absolutely jaw dropping gorgeous Tony......:eek2:

These kits are true masterpieces....and you have created a gem. :1:

mrawl

07-11-2009, 02:54 AM

Amazing, beautiful F40. I want to see that comparative pic too! The paint looks nice and juicy, if you don't mind, what was your final technique and the paints used?

tony126c2

07-11-2009, 08:44 AM

Here are some comparison pics. The 911 is 1:24

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0303.jpg

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10860/DSC_0304.jpg

:iceslolan

Mark. The car was painted with carpaint by a professional workshop (basecoat Rossa Corsa and clear coat). I polished it was carwax :)

mrawl

07-12-2009, 03:58 AM

Holy crap!!!! That pic is amazing - what a monster! Brilliant model, you can be proud of this one forever. Could you ever sell it? What if someone offered megabucks? (but don't look at me :)

tony126c2

07-12-2009, 05:01 AM

Could you ever sell it? What if someone offered megabucks?

The pleasure of looking at the model and feeling proud is much more important than "megabucks" ;) And what can you ask for 650 hours hard work ? :)

mrawl

07-13-2009, 06:39 AM

Agreed. That's a family heirloom you have there. You should consider signing it for your ancestors :)

ajrichar

07-13-2009, 06:43 AM

It is just stunning. Surely it would proudly hold a place in the top half dozen builds on this site?

tony126c2

07-21-2009, 05:10 PM

Slash.Snakepit

07-21-2009, 05:20 PM

Sweet!!!!!

Well all has been said throughout the WIP, thanks for sharing that!

Congratulations.

I have just showed to my co-worker and he said that it wasn't in any way a model...until I showed him from the beginning...man he was in awe...

What will be the next one?