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America vs. EuropeCarGuy155 12-31-2008, 04:37 AM http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk48/carguy155/1-46.jpg Viper SRT-10 $91,995 8.4L OHV 20-valve V-10 Front Engine-RWD 6 speed manual 600 bhp @ 6100 rpm 560 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm Redline: 6000 rpm Bhp/Liter: 71.6 Curb Weight: 3440 lbs 0-30mph: 1.7 sec 0-60mph: 3.7 sec 0-90mph: 7.2 sec 0-120mph: 11.2 sec 0-100ft, 2.7 sec 0-500ft, 6.7 sec 0-900ft, 9.5 sec 0-1320ft, 11.7 sec @ 122.8 mph 60mph-0, 112 ft 80mph-0, 193 ft Lateral: 1.01g Slalom: 69.7 mph Weight Distribution: 48/52 Tires: 275/345 mm EPA: 12/21 mpg Top Speed: 202 mph http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2009/chevrolet.corvette.zr1/09.chevrolet.corvette.zr1.act.f34.4.500.jpg Corvette ZR-1 $117,000 6.2L Supercharged OHV 16-valve V-8 Front Engine-RWD 6 speed manual 638 bhp @ 6500 rpm 604 lbs-ft @ 3800 rpm Redline: 6500 rpm Bhp/Liter: 103.5 Curb Weight: 3325 lbs 0-30mph: 1.5 sec 0-60mph: 3.4 sec 0-90mph: 6.0 sec 0-120mph: 9.8 sec 0-100ft, 2.6 sec 0-500ft, 6.3 sec 0-900ft, 9.0 sec 0-1320ft, 11.4 sec @ 129.3 mph 60mph-0, 106 ft 80mph-0, 183 ft Lateral: 1.10g Slalom: 73.4 mph Weight Distribution: 52/48 Tires: 285/335 mm EPA: 14/20 mpg Top Speed: 205 mph http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk48/carguy155/1-47.jpg Gallardo LP560-4 $251,260 5.2L 40-valve DOHC V-10 Mid Engine-AWD 6 speed paddle shift manual 552 bhp @ 8000 rpm 398 lbs-ft @ 6500 rpm Redline: 8500 rpm Bhp/Liter: 106.1 Curb Weight: 3595 lbs 0-30mph: 1.3 sec 0-60mph: 3.2 sec 0-90mph: 5.9 sec 0-120mph: 9.7 sec 0-100ft, 2.4 sec 0-500ft, 6.2 sec 0-900ft, 8.8 sec 0-1320ft, 11.2 sec @ 129.5 mph 60mph-0, 112 ft 80mph-0, 192 t Lateral: 1.00g Slalom: 72.1 mph Weight Distribution: 44/56 Tires: 235/295 mm EPA: 14/20 mpg Top Speed: 202 mph http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk48/carguy155/1-44.jpg 911 GT2 $198,875 3.6L Turbocharged DOHC 24-valve H-6 Rear Engine-RWD 6 speed manual 530 bhp @ 6500 rpm 501 lbs-ft @ 2200 rpm Redline: 6800 rpm Bhp/Liter: 147.2 Curb Weight: 3265 lbs 0-30mph: 1.2 sec 0-60mph: 3.4 sec 0-90mph: 6.6 sec 0-120mph: 10.9 sec 0-100ft, 2.4 sec 0-500ft, 6.3 sec 0-900ft, 9.0 sec 0-1320ft, 11.5 sec @ 123.9 mph 60mph-0, 108 ft 80mph-0, 187 ft Lateral: 1.03g Slalom: 75.9 mph Weight Distribution: 39/61 Tires: 235/325 mm EPA: 16/23 mpg Top Speed: 204 mph http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk48/carguy155/2-17.jpg F430 Scuderia $262,306 4.3L DOHC 32-valve V-8 Mid Engine-RWD 6-speed paddle-shift manual 503 bhp @ 8500 rpm 347 lb-ft @ 5250 rpm Redline: 8500 rpm Bhp/Liter: 116.9 Curb Weight: 2975 lbs 0-30mph: 1.2 sec 0-60mph: 3.4 sec 0-90mph: 6.5 sec 0-120mph: 10.7 sec 0-100ft, 2.3 sec 0-500ft, 6.3 sec 0-900ft, 9.1 sec 0-1320ft, 11.4 sec @ 123.0 mph 60mph-0, 110 ft 80mph-0, 185 ft Lateral: 0.98g Slalom: 72.5 mph Weight Distribution: 43/57 Tires: 225/285 mm EPA: 10/14 mpg Top Speed: 198 mph carmadbenj 03-09-2009, 01:25 PM american cars are nice and good but against italians and germans europe dominates BlueDjinn 03-16-2009, 04:48 PM american cars are nice and good but against italians and germans europe dominates At the world's biggest racetrack; the 12.9 mile Nurburgring Nordschliefe in Germany; the Dodge Viper is the only American car to win the overall event; the 24 hours of Nurburgring. This event is one of the greatest "benchmarks" in sports cars. The Viper was so DOMINANT in its first season that it won every single race of the German GT championship by a "wide margin". Since then, the sanctioning body have continually restricted the Viper to "slow it down"! The sanctioning body couldn't tolerate seeing the Viper take three overall victories so they imposed an engine displacement limit of 6.2 litres. That meant removing two of the Viper's ten cylinders before it was allowed to compete, which it did ,coming in second place with class victories. Polygon 03-19-2009, 12:37 AM Of the cars on the list I had to go with the Porsche and it was close between that and the F430. Had you used the ACR Viper instead of the SRT I would have picked the Viper. At the world's biggest racetrack; the 12.9 mile Nurburgring Nordschliefe in Germany; the Dodge Viper is the only American car to win the overall event; the 24 hours of Nurburgring. This event is one of the greatest "benchmarks" in sports cars. The Viper was so DOMINENT in its first season that it won every single race of the German GT championship by a "wide margin". Since then, the sanctioning body have continually restricted the Viper to "slow it down"! The sanctioning body couldn't tolerate seeing the Viper take three overall victories so they imposed an engine displacement limit of 6.2 litres. That meant removing two of the Viper's ten cylinders before it was allowed to compete, which it did ,coming in second place with class victories. The car you're referring to is the Oreca Viper GTS-R and can't be compared with ANY production Viper. BlueDjinn 03-19-2009, 06:33 PM I'm quite aware of what the ORECA Viper is, and I was not doing a "Viper" comparison. As you'd prefer that I should distinguish between it and "production" Vipers it will be my pleasure. Tom Coronel, the Dutch driver for Peter Zakowski's Zakspeed Viper in the last two 24-hour races at Nurburgring, drove the street legal, Detroit built, Viper ACR to a lap of seven minutes, twenty-two point one seconds, (7:22.1) around the Nordschliefe. This is a full two seconds faster than Maserati's MC12 at 7:24.29; the Pagani Zonda at 7:24.65; three seconds faster than the Ferrari Enzo at 7:25.21; six seconds faster than the Porche Carrera at 7:28.71. This event was sponsered by Chrysler and witnessed by two guys from Motor Trend and covered by German television. I'm sure that after seeing how the American produced Viper performed at their "esteemed" raceway, certain egos weren't feeling quite so..."dominant". vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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