I thought Beal's F1 plates were "M LAREN", but you live in Midland so you would probably know more about it than me

i have about 1/2 of all mclarens "accounted" for

Not sure if i'd know more, havn't seen the latest plate on it. It broke a while back and to the best of my knowledge it still had the MCLAR N plate on it. I'll ask to be sure.

William

I have some pics of one in the Chicago area in its garage on a lift. They're in a box somewhere. It is black/charcoal...so nice!

if it has a hd kit then its chassis #69. Please post pix!

I will post pics when I get a chance. Maybe a dumb question but what is an "hd kit?" don't know a ton about these.

Is #69 in the Chicago area? I'm going there soon, wonder if I can see any F1s

no, it was exported i belive

It may have been exported by now. I went to his house a few years back and took the pics.

Does anybody know if Larry Blair is the owner of Laguna Seca racetrack? It would be nice if he posted on this board as well as other owners have.

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Was that Paul Cherry's house that you went to? If so, then it is indeed #069.

The HD Kit is the "High Downforce Kit" - it includes the flared wheel arches, different front end with splitter, and rear wing as well as a few other changes. It ends up making the car look like an LM or GTR.

Here's a thread which outlines someone else's experience with that particular car:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=153665

We would be VERY interested in seeing your photos. :cool:\

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dgp - I've never heard Blair's name associated with ownership of any race track. I do believe he is or was the co-owner of one IRL team. If you find out anything else, please let us know.

Laguna Seca Raceway appears to be owned and operated by a non-profit agency known as SCRAMP (Sports Car Racing Association of the Monterey Peninsula) and I do not see Blair's name mentioned on the Board of Directors (http://www.laguna-seca.com/directs.htm). That doesn't mean he isn't involved somehow though.

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Does anybody know if Larry Blair is the owner of Laguna Seca racetrack? It would be nice if he posted on this board as well as other owners have.

I am not 100% on this (call it 95%), but I think Laguna Seca is a public park. Meaning the state of California owns it.

EDIT (from kfoote, doubtless through one of his zillion resources for racing): "Originally part of the former Fort Ord military base, Laguna Seca was turned over to the County of Monterey in 1974. The County in turn handed its responsibilities to the parks department. SCRAMP operates and maintains the race track, and handles the racing events and track rentals that generate funds of over $1 million for the county parks department."

Drew's correct on that - I shouldn't have said it was owned by SCRAMP as that entire area is owned by the State of California Parks Department. The track itself is managed by SCRAMP though.

Read more here (http://www.laguna-seca.com/00scramp.htm).

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Thanks for the information guys. I guess the person who informed me was..well.. (not correct). Does anybody know Larry Blair and what is the likelihood that he would post here? Assuming he lives in the Bay Area (California), that is the closest to where i live. I've never seen a McLaren F1 live and getting a ride in one would be an extremely huge thing for me ( a dream come true).
I' ve also learned from this board that Jim Clark (ex Netscape CEO) owns an F1 and he lives in CA too. Does anybody know him?

I do believe Blair makes his home in the Bay Area - maybe someone else here can tell you more about him or possibly intorduce him to our forum if he hasn't seen it already.

I know someone who knows Jim Clark, but I don't know that person well enough even to get myself in contact with him. The person I know was just someone who noted my interest in the McLaren F1 on another forum and decided to share some information about Clark's F1 with me directly. It was a very nice gesture, and it solved the "Shelton F1 mystery" for me. :cool:

There are quite a few others in your area - it's certainly the largest concentration of F1s anywhere in the US so maybe one will come your way someday.

BTW: When I happened to see Musk's F1 here in SoCal one night, he was about 40 miles from his home in Bel Air. You just have to keep your eyes open and hope to get lucky some day.

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You just have to keep your eyes open and hope to get lucky some day.

didn't someone tell you he saw his car? :lol2: :cwm27:

Huh?? :confused:

Unless you are asking if someone else saw the car first and told me - then yes, that is correct. Musk was lost, trying to find a political fundraising party at the home of David Murdoch, and my friends happened to drive past him as he was looking for that location. They called me, but failed to stall him long enough, and led him back to Murdoch's estate where he drove in the gate. I arrived about two minutes too late, and was unable to see the car from the street and of course was not allowed in to the party. I was going to wait there for him to leave, but I had other plans. I did come back later that night to see if he would still be there, and halfway back to Murdock's Musk's F1 passed me going the opposite direction.

I definitely consider my encounter luck even though I had some knowledge that was able to help me. Had my friends not decided to head that way that day, or ignored the fact that I am the biggest McLaren F1 fan they know, I would have missed the opportunity to see an F1 that was hanging out less than 5 minutes from my house. How sad do you think I would have been to hear about that later.

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it was a joke :P . You said it like you were driving around and saw it. sorry, i'm english, you americans don't get my jokes ;)

i only know of 2 cars with wings like that. one of them doesn't run (clinic car) and the other dissapeared (chris dawes' car), and neither were red

Sorry to dig up an old thread (maybe considered to be breathing life into it?!) but I know of a plain blue (non-metallic) car with standard wheels painted black with the high mirrors. Dunno the chassis no. but its not in amazing condition cause it is driven into London everyday and parked in the city. I believe it has a mileage to rival XP5's.

rival XP5s? I doubt that..

-Mike :aus:

No shit. It's serviced every couple of months. XP5 ain't quite doing the miles now either...

Mr.Bernoulli, any more information on that car would definitely help. Right now we're guessing it's #36, but already having it's appearance altered drastically with the mirrors and rims, I wouldn't be surprised if it has been repainted.

Sorry to dig up an old thread (maybe considered to be breathing life into it?!) but I know of a plain blue (non-metallic) car with standard wheels painted black with the high mirrors. Dunno the chassis no. but its not in amazing condition cause it is driven into London everyday and parked in the city. I believe it has a mileage to rival XP5's.

Feel free to breathe new life into any thread where you feel you might have a contribution, no matter how old. :thumbsup:

We are familiar with that car now - photos of it surfaced within the past few months. I found the first one. :iceslolan Here are some others:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=131713

It could to hear more about F1s that are daily driven. You can't really get away with that with many other Supercars.

As McLaren F1 Guy mentioned, if you can find out exactly which F1 that is, we'd really appreciate it.

As for other F1s with high mirrors, I have seen video of one silver F1 road car fitted with them. We've also seen just a few photos presumed to be of one of Ralph Lauren's F1s in silver wearing the high mirrors as well. Those two cars could be one in the same, but that makes a total of three at least, assuming that the blue F1 isn't a refit. Its tough when you have to speculate on things...

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Peloton25,

Pages 188-189 of the Good Book chronicle the build of chassis 071 (according to the first caption--more on that later) This is a historic orange car and has high mirrors. I have not noticed this car mentioned before, maybe I just glossed over the post or something.

In any case, there are two pics at the bottom of pg 188 that show a placard sitting on top of the roof air intake. This placard says, "099 LHD". It is car #61 in the cumulative build # and no matter how I add up all cars produced, my sum for this car's position is never 99. What do you make of this?

Greg A

#071 is supposedly Chris Dawes F1. That's the one mini magic mentioned earlier. Apparently the F1 he crashed, killing himself and his two passengers, was not his own, so that car apparently this F1 still exists. It was reported that the F1 he wrecked belonged to a relative - maybe his father?

I see the photo you are referring to with the "099 LHD" sign. I have no idea what that would mean. It certainly doesn't correlate with build order for that car. Also, since there were no LHD (left-hand drive) McLaren F1's - they were all center drive as I'm sure most are aware - I have no clue what that would stand for either. :confused:

This car reappeared earlier this year in some photographs in some British magazine if I recall correctly. Maybe mini magic remembers since he's the one who originally found them. There's a website for the photographer that has the photos up, but I don't recall his name at the moment. I'm sure Chris will.

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isn't the chris dawes car #071? i recall #061 as being the Bean car.

probs a typo maarten, chassis list says 61 turned burgundy!

-Hey peloton, I saw this show on TV called einstein, may not hav it in US, but it is about knowing alot about one topic, more than anyone else, you would win on McLaren hands down, u probs know more than DC and mabey GM lol. :icon16:

And I might be seeing an F1 in Australia soon!, but no confirmation as yet:(

-Mike :aus:

Yeah - most definitely a typo - I fixed it now.

Thanks McLaren Mike - the difference between me an Einstein is that he came up with his own theories about stuff whereas I just catalog the ones I get from other sources to use later. ;) -hehe

As I always say - make certain you get the chassis number of any McLaren F1 you see. :iceslolan

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and the owners name and everything else:)

#071 is supposedly Chris Dawes F1...

I see the photo you are referring to with the "099 LHD" sign. I have no idea what that would mean. It certainly doesn't correlate with build order for that car. Also, since there were no LHD (left-hand drive) McLaren F1's - they were all center drive as I'm sure most are aware - I have no clue what that would stand for either. :confused: ...


The last photo on pg. 189 shows the car w/it's owner at the time of delivery. I know it's a small pic and difficult to see in great detail, but is that person Chris Dawes?

Perhaps the "LHD" signifies the driving law requirement of the country where the car was to be registered. Are there any differences in McLarens made for RHD countries? I would have thought the car would be identical regardless of driving laws since it is center drive, but I don't recall reading any details regarding that before.

Greg A

I believe that is Mr Dawes, but I've never been able to find another photo of him to confirm it with.

You make a good point about the possibility of 'LHD' referring to the laws in that car's country. The only thing I can think of which we've noticed that is different on some F1s is the reverse light isn't always on the same side. I can't think of anything else though.

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It might be a good idea to set up the light cassette too, so that it tends to illuminate the pavement side of the road, rather than blinding oncoming vehicles...

Very true - I hadn't thought about that.

I know that some cars here have suspension settings calibrated to account for the crown in the center of the road. I'm not sure if McLaren bothered to account for such a thing on the F1 (seriously doubt it in fact) but I'm sure there are things like that which aren't immediately obvious when viewed in a photograph.

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the 3 pix of 71: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119564&highlight=chris

hey i am new to this, but last weekend... June 19, 2005 I went to Boston and saw the cars from the ralph lauren collection... I have some information about his silver car with high mirrors... however it is at my house right now. I will post everything i can find out about it later.

Well I wouldn't be suprised if the Sultan of brunei brings his F1's to Beverly hills every now and then. Last time I saw there was a good sized garage.

Well I wouldn't be suprised if the Sultan of brunei brings his F1's to Beverly hills every now and then. Last time I saw there was a good sized garage.

I don't quite see the connection of your post with the thread. But anyway, you'r saying the Sultan of Brunei has a garage in Beverly H. with some of his exotics? Does he spend time in Beverly Hills?

And what exactly did you see in the good-sized garage?

Thanks!

The Brunei Royal Family does have a very impressive home in Beverly Hills, and probably homes like it all over the world. As for them flying McLarens around the world with them, that just seems highly unlikely.

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...As for them flying McLarens around the world with them, that just seems highly unlikely.

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Why? I've been told Mansour Ojjeh does exactly that.

Greg A

I've been told the McLarens in Brunei have fallen into a very sad state over the past few years. It's unlikely that any of them run, or that they look presentable and could be driven.

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The McLarens are maintained and kept in decent condition, according to my info. They just aren't pampered. Also, so far as I know, Mansour Ojjeh does not fly his McLarens around the world. None of the owners do.

Hello,

Why? I've been told Mansour Ojjeh does exactly that.

Hmm, who says you this info ? I am not sure, how many times #073 was seen on roads ? 2 and #011 ? 1 (at factory) and brother's #075 ? 0
I am told he came at start of Supercar Rally 2003 to "show" his car before the auction, what do you think about that ?

Which is sure, the F1 would be parked in Geneva but where ? Maybe at Tag Heuer ?

Ciao
Phil

This blue with white interior car was EPA'd at G & K in Santa Ana,CA. http://www.gnkauto.com/

http://rbmotoring.com/albums/959/aaq.jpg

They also had a few more F1's - notablely the orange one go though there.

http://rbmotoring.com/gallery/959?page=1

Wow I never knew that all that tied in.

Btw - link dont work - www.gnkauto.com/index.html

How do these links tie into our thread. They are old. The black car (actually blue) is Wyclef Jeans. Now in Florida.

I think they were tested/converted to us spec's through G&K. Other wise I have no clue :screwy:

We knew that. I'm failing to see the connection

We knew that. I'm failing to see the connection


Skimming the thread - I see references to JK Technologies in Baltimore, Maryland. I didn't see anything on G and K from Santa Ana ,CA.

G and K did at least 3 F1's. One of which was Wyclefs.

Sorry, we knew that.

are you sur that all of your information is correct?

are you sur that all of your information is correct?

Are you sure that bumping a thread that was started in 2003 and last posted to in 2005 is really a good decision? I think it is not, as many of the details contained within have likely changed during that period of time.

I have responded to your PM, but will be closing this thread as there can be little benefit in discussion on what in many cases is outdated or possibly inaccurate information.

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