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stratos75

03-15-2008, 09:04 PM

MPWR

03-15-2008, 09:40 PM

Welcome to AF!

Looks like a very interesting project.

Would you mind posting your text in the normal (size 2) font? Some of us would rather not have to squint our eyes to read your descriptions. :grinyes:

NissanSkylineGTR98

03-15-2008, 10:47 PM

Very interesting project, I never even knew this car existed. Looks great so far, can't wait to see more and welcome to AF!

bigfrit

03-15-2008, 11:19 PM

Whaat?

This is brilliant!

Absolutely gorgeous, is the model itself in carbon fibre? That sounds a bit strange, are you planning to make some limited copies of it, I know some might want to buy some!

MidMazar

03-15-2008, 11:31 PM

I wonder how hard that program is to use. Please post more!!!

mrawl

03-16-2008, 03:54 AM

Wow, this is super-interesting. Thanks for posting.

stratos75

03-16-2008, 07:28 AM

...is the model itself in carbon fibre?...
No, there's no carbon that years.
...are you planning to make some limited copies of it...
I think about it, but I have not solved while.

denman2

03-16-2008, 10:34 AM

Excelent build.
Is there gonna be an engine inside or will it be curbside.

I will follow this build.

denman

stratos75

03-16-2008, 01:37 PM

...Is there gonna be an engine inside or will it be curbside...
Yes, I want to make it fully open.

Tripmaster

03-16-2008, 02:56 PM

look like a pretty expensive and interesting project. however, i'm not sure if this is still car modeling. i'd say it's more machinig than modeling

thadude

03-16-2008, 05:37 PM

Looks a realy intrestion project.
You're planning on doing resins of this model to sell ?

DarrenGR

03-17-2008, 05:04 AM

Wow! Must be great to have that kind of access to technology and certainly can't fault your subject choice - I love that car!

Can't wait for the updates to come and details of an available release?? More info now please!!!!!

Darren (LanciaNut!)

gionc

03-17-2008, 11:40 AM

As I said in advance: just superb! Bravo!

ciao

sjelic

03-18-2008, 03:21 AM

My my, real jaw dropper. I wait for more...soon I hope.

stratos75

03-28-2008, 09:37 PM

Thank you friends!
I shall not be able to produce kits, because it's very hard process for alone.
I have no much free time, so I work slowly. Now, little update.
drawn the line of the cut
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0612res.jpg

cut out the door
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0615res.jpg

filling
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0617res.jpg

ready
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0634res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0635res.jpg

it must be very realistic
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/11.jpg

stratos75

05-18-2008, 06:51 PM

rsxse240

05-18-2008, 08:50 PM

Absolutely outstanding! This is a car that I have seen, actually. I was living in Pennsylvania, and my cousin was a Lamborghini buff. He actually has a model of this car. It is quite crude, and lacking in detail, but none the less recognizable.

It was said that this appears to be more of a machining than modeling build. I have to disagree. I don't care what medium you use, what method, or technique, you are building a model, therefore it is modeling. I know if I had the income to support a 5 axis milling machine, rapid prototyping system, and the knowledge to use them, I'd be modeling cars with those methods all the time. forget about buying kits any more! lol

as for the question about the car being carbon, I believe it was asked in reference to the model you are building.

924_CarreraGTS

05-18-2008, 09:31 PM

:eek2: :thumbsup:

Awesome work! Welcome to AF!

Alex

DVST8R

05-18-2008, 11:08 PM

Wow this is nuts!

Fkouch

05-19-2008, 05:16 PM

Awesome!

That's the car that Michael Jackson turns into in Moonwalker. :)

DerXL

05-20-2008, 12:12 PM

Unbelievable stuff !!!

I'm (almost) speechless...
Great work !!!

voyageur

05-20-2008, 03:13 PM

This is absolutely amazing and must be called art rather than just modeling :)

I wish I had the opportunity to access such nice tools!
Keep it up!

daniel_k

05-20-2008, 06:39 PM

man those machines are amazing...but it's very expensive, so I can only dream of one :-(

daniel
-germany-

stratos75

08-31-2008, 04:04 PM

robrex

08-31-2008, 07:07 PM

Wow!

tuned.by.twenty

08-31-2008, 10:59 PM

Marvelous!

360spider

09-01-2008, 12:17 AM

Mish, eshe raz, super. Kak tam voobshe progress-to idet?

jano11

09-01-2008, 05:29 AM

Very nice progress with this scratch built model! :thumbsup:

stratos75

09-01-2008, 04:59 PM

Many thanks!
I had drew the Lancia's emblem very long :silly:. I hope soon you will see it. The one steering wheel I spoiled:banghead: , and now do the new one.
Mish, eshe raz, super. Kak tam voobshe progress-to idet?
Spasibo, Lesh! Progress ne ochen' bystryj - slishkom malo svobodnogo vremeni... Sejchas pytajus' sdelat' klassnyj rul' s emblemoj.

Enzoenvy1

09-02-2008, 02:34 PM

Now that is model building at its finest - from scratch. Well, from scratch with the help of a CNC machine, lol. Great build and process.

klutz_100

09-02-2008, 03:32 PM

Holy schmoley!! :eek2:
(that's Polish for something about a mać and a job ;) )

When I miss a thread I certainly miss the good ones!!
Amazing project :worshippy

R11Furia

09-02-2008, 04:59 PM

Incredible, amazing, i haven't words for this work. you a re from the other world!

ekaintc

09-03-2008, 05:21 PM

OMG. I don't like the car, but you're doing an awesome work!!

Amazing mate!:eek::eek:

Keep the good work!

nugundam93

09-06-2008, 05:44 PM

amazing work!

and i'm too green with envy with your access to the prototyping tools. :)

stratos75

09-11-2008, 07:11 PM

Thanks!
At last I have made an ill-fated steering wheel! It has appeared much more difficult than I thought. The spokes are very thin and often broke. May be I shall made them from wire. So, it is my fifth attempt.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/rul_11res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/DSC016931res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0501res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0503res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0508res.jpg

The valve cover of the engine will be my next work. Wait for update soon!

klutz_100

09-12-2008, 12:57 AM

I hope you are going to make molds of all this and make resin copies so I can buy a kit!! :D

Lovely work :thumbsup:

jano11

09-12-2008, 08:38 AM

Wonderful work.
You've got a cnc machine to do all the work?

stratos75

09-12-2008, 02:08 PM

I hope you are going to make molds of all this and make resin copies so I can buy a kit!! :D

Lovely work :thumbsup:

Thank you!
Be patient. I will make the molds and few kits necessarily, but probably it will occur after some years :grinyes:

Wonderful work.
You've got a cnc machine to do all the work?

:grinno: Only the most visible details.

klutz_100

09-12-2008, 02:25 PM

Be patient. I will make the molds and few kits necessarily, but probably it will occur after some years :grinyes:
That's fine - just don't forget me! :evillol: :D

klutz_100

09-12-2008, 02:31 PM

Be patient. I will make the molds and few kits necessarily, but probably it will occur after some years :grinyes:
That's fine - just don't forget me! :evillol: :D

stratos75

09-17-2008, 04:39 PM

Hi to all! There is another one detail . It is the valve cover of the engine . It's not quite ideally, but I am satisfied.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/cover_01.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0512res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0511res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0504res.jpg

The next step will be the gearbox

jano11

09-17-2008, 05:00 PM

Nice job on the valve cover! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to the gearbox!
Where do you get the blue prints for all the parts you design and machine?

stratos75

09-17-2008, 05:39 PM

I have not any blue prints on this car. I do all by photos.

jano11

09-18-2008, 05:28 AM

You do a very good job considering the lack of blue prints! Keep it up! :)

rockinanko

09-20-2008, 03:01 AM

This is definitely my first time witnessing a model build in such a high-tech fashion, never imagine this was possible, especially in a hobby arena...it is now.

so this is how makers like tamiya & revell churn out before every new kit was produced, that's the '+ mold'. then they fabricate the '- mold' from this & start the plastic injection process...

i applaud the use of such technology to make new, never seen before models, for the accuracy & precision it provides is 99.99% spot on.

but i wonder if this is gonna kill off the fun from this old hobby, where the dissatisfied / advanced modelor will ever takes the next plunge in trying to build models the unconventional way.

no, i'm not trying to discriminate anything. modeling has sharpened & increased my brainstorming abilities in many ways since i broke away from building solely out-of-the-box to my current stage.

i could create parts not easily available / existed by using only styrene & anything i could lay my hands on, abeit in acceptable accuracies / deficiencies, with some thinking.

but if i were to sit back, hope & pray all my modeling needs will be provided somehow or rather, sooner or later...as long as i have enough $$$ to buy them when they're available, will i be the same person as i am now!?

is this the way all modelors will go some day?

just for thoughts...cheers!:rolleyes:

jano11

09-20-2008, 05:56 AM

so this is how makers like tamiya & revell churn out before every new kit was produced, that's the '+ mold'. then they fabricate the '- mold' from this & start the plastic injection process...

Not really, the manufacturers that produce plastic injection kits use metallic molds. They do directly design and produce their molds.

The "garage" kit manufacturers (resin kit manufacturers) however use the method that you described (make a prototype and than make the molds using that).

stratos75

09-21-2008, 05:13 PM

You may to think anything you want, but it's my own way, and I like it.
May be you would laugh, but today I deside to make a new house for my kit :lol2: , because I like to keep all in perfect order. In in past life this was the Tamiya box from Nissan Skyline R32.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3107/mikhailpetrenko.0/0_1bdab_f67bbb09_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114091/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114091/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3107/mikhailpetrenko.0/0_1bda7_40267e61_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114087/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114087/)

360spider

09-21-2008, 06:32 PM

Lee in Texas

09-22-2008, 08:21 PM

I'm very impressed. That model is incredible. Will you let someone make a resin copy? Can you make parts for a second kit? I would love to have a model of a Stratos Zero.

Lee

AmazonSprite

10-07-2008, 02:24 PM

Hope it's not too late to be of use - just seem that a recreation is up for sale by auction & there are loads of pics that might be good for reference;

http://www.rmauctions.com/Carlist.cfm?SaleCode=LF08&Page=4&Category=Cars&Collection=&SortBy=RO&Search=# (lot 288)

jano11

10-07-2008, 04:34 PM

Great idea with that box, I love it! :thumbsup:

Hope it's not too late to be of use - just seem that a recreation is up for sale by auction & there are loads of pics that might be good for reference;

http://www.rmauctions.com/Carlist.cfm?SaleCode=LF08&Page=4&Category=Cars&Collection=&SortBy=RO&Search=# (lot 288)

Great find.

Reading the description I found this part hilarious:
"Saunders painted his Zero a striking Lamborghini Mica Orange, quite close to the original’s metallic hue. "

Just how close is Mica Orange to Metallic Blue?! :rofl:

drunken monkey

10-07-2008, 05:41 PM

Reading the description I found this part hilarious:
"Saunders painted his Zero a striking Lamborghini Mica Orange, quite close to the original’s metallic hue. "

Just how close is Mica Orange to Metallic Blue?! :rofl:

maybe you want to read that again.

jano11

10-08-2008, 06:21 AM

maybe you want to read that again.

Oups, what a tool I am. gonna have to hide somewhere for a long time. :banghead:

RetroFuturist

11-17-2008, 11:27 AM

This Model is AMAZING!!! :eek2::eek2:

The Stratos Zero has always been one of my favorite cars. I wish I had a CNC like that sitting in my garage, I would never leave home.

Is there anyway you be able to help out with the dimensions of the car such as overall length, width, etc....so that I could possibly start my own model?

Mikezibit

11-17-2008, 12:24 PM

great box design

your kit ???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANCIA-STRATOS-1970-CONCEPT-1-24-Resin-Kit-Bertone-RARE_W0QQitemZ220311752461QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item220311752461&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

RetroFuturist

11-17-2008, 01:04 PM

I saw that on eBay also....no that is not his Kit....that is an old APEX Kit that is no longer made.

He has not said that he would be making a kit yet, but I would buy one if he did!

stratos75

11-17-2008, 06:18 PM

I saw that on eBay also....no that is not his Kit....that is an old APEX Kit that is no longer made.

He has not said that he would be making a kit yet, but I would buy one if he did!
That kit is much more worse than my model. I do not recommend it to try to get. I hope I can make a quantity of own kits or I will give molds to smb. who can to produce mine kit. Be patient!
BTW: little update. The lower jaw and the rear gearbox cover. The last one I shall rebuild, because I want to insert bolts into it.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3100/mikhailpetrenko.2/0_1f4a7_a090dfd7_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/128167/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3001/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1f713_65fba0c9_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/128787/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3102/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1f712_8251f3ad_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/128786/)

stratos75

11-19-2008, 06:02 PM

I am satisfied by result at the third attempt (the right on the first foto). I have forgotten about the bottom lugs on the second cover. There is a dry fitting of resin bolts on the second foto.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3302/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1fa76_2678731e_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/129654/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3006/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1fa77_9e52c0cb_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/129655/)

AustinMartin

11-19-2008, 06:17 PM

Awesome!!!

djshadow2k

11-27-2008, 03:10 PM

Stunning!!

Эх, хотел бы я знать, где в Кишиневе можно получить доступ к такому станку....

guysmilie

11-27-2008, 03:31 PM

:eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2: Can't say it any better, this is awesome.

360spider

11-27-2008, 09:46 PM

The ruler sure gives a perspective...Just by looking at the cover you think...hmmm, ok, a cover, and then bang! -you realize how small it is!

tuned.by.twenty

11-27-2008, 10:45 PM

Seeing this thread has given me ideas...I wonder if my parents will accept an addition to my Christmas list? :grinyes:

jaykay640

11-28-2008, 06:45 PM

Wicked! I sure should have a look in the Street section more often. That's one not to be missed!
Gandini rules and it looks like you are going to do his design justice!
Everyone, just think about the cars that were on the road at the time this was created...pure SciFi!
Much has been said about your approach to modeling and the envy expressed! You desrve it:-) I would like to have those tools but on the other hand i don't envy the time you ( or your brother :-) spend in front of the computer. It takes a lot of time until you get a part. At my job i get to torture poor CAD guys every day with stuff they have to model for me. They need time and they are pro's! I wouldn't wanna be in their place but i'm itching to try this myself...gotta learn that damn 3D-software.....
I'll definitely follow this from now on:-)

stratos75

11-30-2008, 08:17 PM

Thanks to all!
This weekend I did anew the front part of the seats, because with getting of new fotos I saw that the previous was not correct. So at now I'm satisfied.
The new part till not cutting (in the centre).
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3106/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_20073_f305287a_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/131187/)

The previous version of the seats.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3301/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_20074_f2af8d82_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/131188/)

And now.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2709/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_20075_4434800e_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/131189/)

Reference.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3300/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_20076_56298c0f_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/131190/)

mrawl

12-01-2008, 05:16 AM

This continues to be one of the most interesting things I've ever seen! I'm curious though, the real seat appears to have 9 panels top to bottom, yours has 7. Clearly you could have modeled this perfectly, any reason for the difference?

jano11

12-01-2008, 07:32 AM

I'm curious though, the real seat appears to have 9 panels top to bottom, yours has 7. Clearly you could have modeled this perfectly, any reason for the difference?

I think it has 10 with the one at top that is in the darker upper part.

stratos75

12-01-2008, 06:25 PM

I think it has 10 with the one at top that is in the darker upper part.
Yes! You can to count, but you aren't attentive. Look at my previous fotos and you will see all parts of the seats. In the latter case I've shown the rebuilt part only. I remind you as it looks now (without the left panel to better view):

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3107/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_20119_723e8b5_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/131353/)

jano11

12-02-2008, 02:33 AM

Yes! You can to count...

Thanks for the compliment! :wink:

gionc

12-02-2008, 06:24 AM

Fantastic so far!

Looks like this project fix at all my problem to do one for myself and to sell, I'll buy a couple for me (one orange and one silver ;) ) and leave you to sell all you want ;), too busy with other project lately, but more than happy to see so great updates. BRAVO!

360spider

12-02-2008, 09:15 AM

Superb craftsmanship!

mrawl

12-02-2008, 09:54 PM

Lol, I knew you'd have a perfect answer on the seat thing. Do you break parts up in order to make tooling easier? But then something like the steering wheel - that has to be remounted and tooled from both sides?

stratos75

12-03-2008, 01:34 AM

...Do you break parts up in order to make tooling easier? But then something like the steering wheel - that has to be remounted and tooled from both sides?
Yes, I do. You are right, if some parts needs to mill both sides I remount they and tool each side. But some parts I force to break and rotate to 3D milling.

rollin80s

12-03-2008, 02:58 PM

wow, this is amazing:eek2:keep up the great work.:evillol:

b00mslang

12-13-2008, 07:26 PM

Are you planning to offer the 3d modeling files for sale?

stratos75

12-14-2008, 09:09 AM

Are you planning to offer the 3d modeling files for sale?
I don't want to sell it at a low price yet.

b00mslang

12-14-2008, 04:23 PM

I was thinking of the current prices listed at TurboSquid, etc. $150 plus?

I am not interested in competing on the model level. I would be using the files to setup bulkheads and wireform buck for a full-size aluminum copy. (for myself and not for resale)

This would just save me the work of modeling it.

TIA

Hiroboy

12-21-2008, 05:46 PM

Awesome work

Philmodelcar

04-15-2009, 04:36 PM

why selling the data, why don't you cast and sell complete kits ?
I'll be a good customer :)

gionc

04-16-2009, 03:39 AM

Man,
we got to discuss that in past. This is a subject I want to do, I started to design the body shell but I'm quite back compared your actual stage.
More, looks me stupid create competition (also if competition help quality..) between us: this wouldn't be a Scuderia's project: all I'll offer is a full partnership, where we share profits. On the other side I'm not interested to buy 3D data, I have partially and not problem to finish: it would be just a cool adventure together. If the idea looks you cool, contact me, you shoud have mail somewhere, now, after some Scuderia's and freelance experiences I'm more ready to do something like it.

Not to mention... 1/12 and 1/43 scales... ;)

I wait for you :D

stratos75

04-16-2009, 03:23 PM

gionc

04-17-2009, 05:50 AM

I took a small time-out because of a new job, and now haven't enough free time for my hobby :(
Gio, I received some new interesting photos of engine bay and underbody from Bertone. I may to send they to you if you want.

Would be cool, I have few busy days in front than I'll contact you by mail to discuss if we'll do something together ;)

stratos75

06-02-2009, 05:05 PM

Something new on my project: the first primer.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3503/mikhailpetrenko.e/0_29e4d_d1e1c8d2_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171597/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171597/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3502/mikhailpetrenko.e/0_29e4e_5700d058_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171598/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171598/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3602/mikhailpetrenko.e/0_29e4f_1fefe421_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171599/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171599/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3500/mikhailpetrenko.e/0_29e50_14008c9f_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171600/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/171600/)

gtziaf

06-03-2009, 06:35 AM

Nice Shape!!!
Go on... and good luck until the finish...

btdada

06-03-2009, 07:30 AM

man...this is crasy

jano11

06-03-2009, 08:00 AM

Impressive result!
You did such a great job producing this body shell, it's really impressive. :thumbsup:

RetroFuturist

07-14-2009, 03:11 PM

I saw this car (the Zero) on eBay for sale. It is not as good quality (no interior or anything) as yours Stratos75:), but it still looks pretty cool. I started one for myself from scratch, but it is taking forever:banghead:.

Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140332502794

snk33y

07-15-2009, 02:30 AM

Wow! Fantastic workmanship...not the most apealing looking car but I can appreciate the work and skill that has gone into this.I'm sure this will grow on me, keep up the good work

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