Which car has the highest fuel economy & safety & performance?
DMC12
02-21-2003, 04:22 PM
Ususally a vehicle that really performs gets lower fuel economy when compared to an economy car, which is less safe when compared to a 5-star crash rated car.
Which cars (if any) offer excellent #'s in all three categories?
For example: VW Golf TDI $17,000 US
0-60=8 seconds
MPG=45
Safety=4-star
Which cars (if any) offer excellent #'s in all three categories?
For example: VW Golf TDI $17,000 US
0-60=8 seconds
MPG=45
Safety=4-star
FYRHWK1
02-21-2003, 08:18 PM
Z06 will run the 1/4 in the low 12 range all day, get 20/30 mpg and in literal crash tests it got good all around, ignoring those stupid "its the most dangerous car on the road" reports based on bullshit.
DMC12
03-12-2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by FYRHWK1
Z06 will run the 1/4 in the low 12 range all day, get 20/30 mpg and in literal crash tests it got good all around
That sounds awesome! What a good way to justify buying a Z06... and owners here on AF that can verify the MPG?
Z06 will run the 1/4 in the low 12 range all day, get 20/30 mpg and in literal crash tests it got good all around
That sounds awesome! What a good way to justify buying a Z06... and owners here on AF that can verify the MPG?
Paonessa
03-16-2003, 07:49 AM
my friend had an 89 vette that got 4mpg with the gas pinned in 2nd and up to 45+ mpg with the car in 6th gear cruising at aroud 95 on the highway.(it has a digital read out to tell you mpg, like the old lincoln towncars) it's all in how you drive it. i got my maxima(6.2 0-60) to get 38 mpg coming all the way up the garden state prkwy/I-87, but i can get it as low as 15-17 mpg, if not lower, driving around racing and going WOT
Jimster
03-16-2003, 10:48 PM
Saab 9-3 2.0T
0-60- 8.5 seconds
Average MPG 33.2
Safety (Euro-NCAP) 5 star
0-60- 8.5 seconds
Average MPG 33.2
Safety (Euro-NCAP) 5 star
YogsVR4
03-17-2003, 07:32 AM
I know that the VR4 will only get about 24mpg but one of the guys with one was hit broadside by a Semi at 40 mph (the semi ran a red - sleeping driver). Disintegrated the car. He had a broken leg and rib with a few cuts and bruises, but otherwise he was fine. I dont know what the crash rating is, but thats a ringing endorsement for the car in my book.
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FYRHWK1
03-19-2003, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Jimster
Saab 9-3 2.0T
0-60- 8.5 seconds
Average MPG 33.2
Safety (Euro-NCAP) 5 star
And I thought you disliked GM, you do remember that car rides on a GM chassis & suspension with GM motor & trannies in it ;):cool:
Saab 9-3 2.0T
0-60- 8.5 seconds
Average MPG 33.2
Safety (Euro-NCAP) 5 star
And I thought you disliked GM, you do remember that car rides on a GM chassis & suspension with GM motor & trannies in it ;):cool:
Jimster
03-19-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by FYRHWK1
And I thought you disliked GM, you do remember that car rides on a GM chassis & suspension with GM motor & trannies in it ;):cool:
Very aware of the fact it is near-identical to the latest Vectra :D The new Vectra has an excellent chassis- Chevrolet could learn a lot from thier German cousins :D
And I thought you disliked GM, you do remember that car rides on a GM chassis & suspension with GM motor & trannies in it ;):cool:
Very aware of the fact it is near-identical to the latest Vectra :D The new Vectra has an excellent chassis- Chevrolet could learn a lot from thier German cousins :D
Paonessa
03-20-2003, 09:02 AM
8.5 seconds for a 2.0 turbo??? that seems real slow to me
Jimster
03-20-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Paonessa
8.5 seconds for a 2.0 turbo??? that seems real slow to me
It's a Low Pressure Turbo in a Luxury sedan-= which is reasonably decent- once the Aero comes with a High Pressure Turbo- We will see some proper times
8.5 seconds for a 2.0 turbo??? that seems real slow to me
It's a Low Pressure Turbo in a Luxury sedan-= which is reasonably decent- once the Aero comes with a High Pressure Turbo- We will see some proper times
FYRHWK1
03-21-2003, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Jimster
Very aware of the fact it is near-identical to the latest Vectra :D The new Vectra has an excellent chassis- Chevrolet could learn a lot from thier German cousins :D
Well you odo know the epsilon chassis was designed by GMNA for the new malibu right? :D ;)
Very aware of the fact it is near-identical to the latest Vectra :D The new Vectra has an excellent chassis- Chevrolet could learn a lot from thier German cousins :D
Well you odo know the epsilon chassis was designed by GMNA for the new malibu right? :D ;)
Jimster
03-21-2003, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by FYRHWK1
Well you odo know the epsilon chassis was designed by GMNA for the new malibu right? :D ;)
Yes- but deep down I know that the Malibu will be a softer car than the Vectra all together- perhaps it's the fact the springs will be softened to cope witha Americas somewhat rough roads- But then again considering the blob the current Malibu is- it won't be hard to better the current model.
Well you odo know the epsilon chassis was designed by GMNA for the new malibu right? :D ;)
Yes- but deep down I know that the Malibu will be a softer car than the Vectra all together- perhaps it's the fact the springs will be softened to cope witha Americas somewhat rough roads- But then again considering the blob the current Malibu is- it won't be hard to better the current model.
Fliquer
03-21-2003, 03:12 AM
Euro VW GTI with the 1.9Lturbodiesel
228lbs/ft at 1900rpm 40/50 mpg
Seems great rite? Somehow it takes 9 seconds to get it to 60mph
228lbs/ft at 1900rpm 40/50 mpg
Seems great rite? Somehow it takes 9 seconds to get it to 60mph
crayzayjay
03-21-2003, 10:41 AM
Id have to say a 330ci
Performance: 231bhp, 6.5 to 62mph (some tests have achieved under 6s), 155mph
Economy: 31mpg
Euro Ncap - 4 star
btw, great sig Jimster, where d'ya get all those micro machines? :D
love the 'grale
Performance: 231bhp, 6.5 to 62mph (some tests have achieved under 6s), 155mph
Economy: 31mpg
Euro Ncap - 4 star
btw, great sig Jimster, where d'ya get all those micro machines? :D
love the 'grale
BLU CIVIC
03-21-2003, 10:47 AM
i know the new mini cooper s has a very high overall rating
FYRHWK1
03-21-2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Jimster
Yes- but deep down I know that the Malibu will be a softer car than the Vectra all together- perhaps it's the fact the springs will be softened to cope witha Americas somewhat rough roads- But then again considering the blob the current Malibu is- it won't be hard to better the current model.
It's probably th ebest sedan in it's market, cheaper then both of nissans offerings, performance is of no matter because it's a FWD family sedan, attempting to make it fast is stupid. It's as reliable as anything else it competes with, i suppose the styling could turn you off but that goes for the whole family sedan market, the altima is probably the only one that actually looks like *something*
Yes- but deep down I know that the Malibu will be a softer car than the Vectra all together- perhaps it's the fact the springs will be softened to cope witha Americas somewhat rough roads- But then again considering the blob the current Malibu is- it won't be hard to better the current model.
It's probably th ebest sedan in it's market, cheaper then both of nissans offerings, performance is of no matter because it's a FWD family sedan, attempting to make it fast is stupid. It's as reliable as anything else it competes with, i suppose the styling could turn you off but that goes for the whole family sedan market, the altima is probably the only one that actually looks like *something*
Jimster
03-21-2003, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by FYRHWK1
It's probably th ebest sedan in it's market, cheaper then both of nissans offerings, performance is of no matter because it's a FWD family sedan, attempting to make it fast is stupid. It's as reliable as anything else it competes with, i suppose the styling could turn you off but that goes for the whole family sedan market, the altima is probably the only one that actually looks like *something*
That is true- But then again- the American FWD saloon market has quietened down greatly with the SUV/Minivan boom. Cars like the Accrod, Sebring and Camry aren't exactly cars to set ones soul on fire. But It rather contrasts with the European market- where this segment is alive and well.
It's probably th ebest sedan in it's market, cheaper then both of nissans offerings, performance is of no matter because it's a FWD family sedan, attempting to make it fast is stupid. It's as reliable as anything else it competes with, i suppose the styling could turn you off but that goes for the whole family sedan market, the altima is probably the only one that actually looks like *something*
That is true- But then again- the American FWD saloon market has quietened down greatly with the SUV/Minivan boom. Cars like the Accrod, Sebring and Camry aren't exactly cars to set ones soul on fire. But It rather contrasts with the European market- where this segment is alive and well.
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