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MaximusGTR
01-31-2003, 04:49 AM
http://students.washington.edu/crm2/Racing%20Videos/Eclipse%20vs%20Camaro.mpeg

Watch the takeoff!!!!

Neutrino
01-31-2003, 05:32 AM
Sweet. I wonder if that gsx had any major mods.
BTW that looks like a trans am to me no camaro.

DemonZX
01-31-2003, 08:25 AM
the only people I've seen launch better than that was NASA!:p

Self
01-31-2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Neutrino
Sweet. I wonder if that gsx had any major mods.
BTW that looks like a trans am to me no camaro.

Yeap, definitely a Trans Am. Good launch by the Eclipse, but bad launch by the TA. And is it just me, or is that the shortest street racing strip in the world!? hahah, good vid:)

BLU CIVIC
01-31-2003, 10:31 AM
WHAT DOES DSM STAND FOR :confused:

DMC12
01-31-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by BLU CIVIC
WHAT DOES DSM STAND FOR
Diamond Star Motors - an alliance between Mitsubishi & Chrysler (both with diamond-shaped logos). They collaborated on the popular Eclipse/Talon & some others...

Maximus... the videos are :smoka:! Lookin' 4ward 2 nex 1.

BLU CIVIC
01-31-2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by DMC12

Diamond Star Motors - an alliance between Mitsubishi & Chrysler (both with diamond-shaped logos). They collaborated on the popular Eclipse/Talon & some others...

Maximus... the videos are :smoka:! Lookin' 4ward 2 nex 1.

THANX..LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY :alien:

TerminalVelocity
01-31-2003, 01:13 PM
looked, and sounded, like a v6 firebird to me

eather way, good kill! :D

*the v6 runs a 15.6 dosent it? If the dsm is stock as it sounds it should run a 15.3 and an excelent driver could be able to make as low as 14.9 (seen it).*

Scott 02
01-31-2003, 05:21 PM
Yeah, A Z-28 should have took off better than that. I don't think it would have got the eclipse on the start, but it would killed it on top end. :)

I'd say that Eclipse had some mods done to it for it to get that kind of a jump.

Polygon
01-31-2003, 05:55 PM
Man, keep this vids coming. Sweet race.

-The Stig-
01-31-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
looked, and sounded, like a v6 firebird to me

eather way, good kill! :D

*the v6 runs a 15.6 dosent it? If the dsm is stock as it sounds it should run a 15.3 and an excelent driver could be able to make as low as 14.9 (seen it).*


I agree with TerminalV... it sounded like a V6... not enough gurgle there to sound like a V8... especially when he took off.

Either way cool video.

DMC12
01-31-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Scott 02
A Z-28 should have took off better than that. I don't think it would have got the eclipse on the start, but it would killed it on top end.
Yes, unless that Eclipse was a 12-second car, the Z should be faster (unless the driver was high). I've seen a Z trounce TerminalV's car... they are faster than fcuk.

DeViL
01-31-2003, 08:54 PM
No thats a V8 alright. Only the Trans Am has those markings on the front and those foglights in the middle. And of course all Firebird Trans Ams are V8s.

Firebird, V6 or Formula V8
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/autos.yahoo.com/i/02/FIREBIR9.jpg
Firebird Trans Am
http://pontiac.com/pontiacjsp/firebird/images/ov_fb_lg_photo.jpg

Any questions? :smoka: Awesome video, very short race but still cool. Keep them coming.

Scott 02
01-31-2003, 10:44 PM
After reviewing it again. The dude in the Firebird looked like he just didn't have a good start whats so ever. I know from experience that a Trans Am with a 5.7L can get up off the start alot better than that. Then again the GSX had AWD that helps.

TerminalVelocity
02-01-2003, 04:30 AM
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.1 13.4

1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.8 15.2


the gsx is slower 0-60

and FAR slower in the quarter


the race took 8 seconds

Unless that GSX is a 10 second car, this movie is bullshit, the driver is horrable, or Firebird is a T/A clone *it dosent have the distint hood*

possablility

1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.6 14.0


with alot of miles, and a bad driver vs a moded GSX...

Self
02-01-2003, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity

Unless that GSX is a 10 second car, this movie is bullshit, the driver is horrable, or Firebird is a T/A clone *it dosent have the distint hood*


Only Trans Am Ws6's have that hood.

DeViL
02-01-2003, 01:24 PM
That is so thickheaded. You're going to call something caught on video bullshit? How? He lost, I love Pontiacs more then anyone on this Street Racing forum but even I can admit he was beaten.
It's not a fake, thats a ream Trans Am. Could be fully loaded with the Hurst shifter and all that but we don't know that.

Only Trans Am Ws6's have that hood.
I don't know if Pontiac makes it themselves but there is a Firebird V6 called the Mark III that has the WS6 ram air hood. But that has a silver stripe on the bottom on the sides. That definately wasn't one of them in the video though.

Misundaztood
02-01-2003, 02:41 PM
For one thing, even though the Firebird may be faster stock for stock against the GSX, the 4g63 motor responds to mods very well. He could have tricked it out & the Bird might have been stock. It all depends on what their running.

But yeah, I agree, that launch looked shady...

TerminalVelocity
02-01-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by DeViL
That is so thickheaded. You're going to call something caught on video bullshit? How? He lost, I love Pontiacs more then anyone on this Street Racing forum but even I can admit he was beaten.
It's not a fake, thats a ream Trans Am.

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity

Unless that GSX is a 10 second car, this movie is bullshit, the driver is horrable, or Firebird is a T/A clone *it dosent have the distint hood*


I never said it couldnt be a 10 sec car

And how do you explain that whole race was only 8 seconds?

If it was a 10 sec car, yes, it would win and in 8 seconds it would be more than clear.

If you watch my and dmc12's vids, it looks like he smokes me, but we wernt really racing, it was for the movie. Also maby it was a bad driver vs a really good one, possable.

DeViL
02-01-2003, 07:40 PM
Can't really blame the short race on the Eclipse though the Firebird seemed to brake first.

If he didn't launch correctly then thats his problem.

fatninja19
02-02-2003, 08:15 PM
I thought I saw a front mount i/c for that GSX... And them rims on the Eclipse look at least like 17's.. so he must have a few mods to launch like that.

And that t/a sure seems quiet!

Butt good fucking video though.

MaximusGTR
02-03-2003, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by fatninja19


Butt good fucking video though.

Ok, that comment is a little, well freakyhttp://www.ok-speed.com/forums/images/smilies/gay.gif

Scott 02
02-03-2003, 03:59 PM
Was there any other videos Maximus GTR?

MaximusGTR
02-03-2003, 06:02 PM
Of that particular race, no, but I have plenty of vids, but I know some AF members would say things like, "I can't see it well" or "Its not clear enough".. Trust me I'd here all kinds of negativity. But i'll post some more vids in a minute in the street racing forum:D

Scott 02
02-03-2003, 10:35 PM
I can't see it well" or "Its not clear enough".. Trust me I'd here all kinds of negativity. But i'll post some more vids in a minute in the street racing forum

Oh yeah...we seem to hear alot of that now...:bandit:

fatninja19
02-04-2003, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by MaximusGTR


Ok, that comment is a little, well freakyhttp://www.ok-speed.com/forums/images/smilies/gay.gif


Sorry.. uh.. I got hit by a minor burst of inspiration.. well maybe not inspiration, something more like insanity.. eh.. I dont know..

danno_SS
02-06-2003, 01:12 AM
It looks like the trans-am missed the 2-3 shift, that's why he cut out so early. You can see the bird's rear end lift up as he goes back into first. Ouch, can you say bent pushrods? It looked like the eclipse had a good 2 cars on it by then. I don't think the bird could've made that ground up anyways. Good run.

Scott 02
02-07-2003, 12:21 AM
My same exact thoughts danno_s. Their probably has been a rematch race between them two cars since that race. I hope the Trans Am beat it the second time too. B/C it should have the first time.

EJ20
02-11-2003, 02:13 AM
man, you LS1 LT1 people have more excusese than ricers.
GSX will have 1.7-1.9 60' time, just like my EJ20
it is that simple, it was a clear lose for that f-body.
any 2.0L-T engine that has an front mount intercooler usually pushes more than 300 at the wheel ( and that is all wheel ) and that is in 11-12 sec range.
I raced many LT1 LS1 before, I won some and I lost some, but everytime, they are playing catch up, that is the beauty of the AWD.
so you know

Self
02-11-2003, 03:11 AM
Just curious as to what mods you have done to your WRX?
And just because a car has a front mount intercooler doesn't mean they are pushing 300whp+. That is a HUGE jump. From the GSXs stock 176whp or so, to over 300? That's a big jump. You'll have to do more than swap out your intercooler to get that kind of hp.

-The Stig-
02-11-2003, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Self
Just curious as to what mods you have done to your WRX?
And just because a car has a front mount intercooler doesn't mean they are pushing 300whp+. That is a HUGE jump. From the GSXs stock 176whp or so, to over 300? That's a big jump. You'll have to do more than swap out your intercooler to get that kind of hp.



Yeah I gotta kinda agree with my hommie Self here...

throwing on a intercooler doesnt just bump ya up in Hp that easy... you gotta get the wing first...:D

on the serious note though, what have ya done to your car man? sounds pretty mean.

EJ20
02-11-2003, 09:34 AM
ok ok
you are right, a fmic does not bring wonders. I was trying to say is,,,,, people who knows what they are doing to 4g63s, fmic likely to be the last few steps on the moding lists before going to stroker, so I was making assupmtion based on the eclipes driver is also a knowledgable person. maybe he is just a ricer ( like me ) . who knows.
however, I stay firm of what I said, AWD launch is crazy, rwd or fwd without slicks will have to play catching up after launch.
my mods of my WRX, hehe... you have to find out the hard way,,,,,,, jk jk ( watch too many movies ) I gotta go to class now, I will fill in later,,,,, stupid 10' oclock class, they should make all the universities start their classes at 12.
EJ

Self
02-11-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by EJ20
ok ok
you are right, a fmic does not bring wonders. I was trying to say is,,,,, people who knows what they are doing to 4g63s, fmic likely to be the last few steps on the moding lists before going to stroker, so I was making assupmtion based on the eclipes driver is also a knowledgable person. maybe he is just a ricer ( like me ) . who knows.
however, I stay firm of what I said, AWD launch is crazy, rwd or fwd without slicks will have to play catching up after launch.
my mods of my WRX, hehe... you have to find out the hard way,,,,,,, jk jk ( watch too many movies ) I gotta go to class now, I will fill in later,,,,, stupid 10' oclock class, they should make all the universities start their classes at 12.
EJ

Haha, you're gonna make me find the hard way? You brave. You brave:D
Heheh, what are you located by the way?

DemonZX
02-11-2003, 11:59 AM
Hey Self! Remember, It's not how you stand by your car it's how you reace your car!;) :rolleyes:

EJ20
02-11-2003, 02:46 PM
nah, I was just playing a move line man ( I hate that movie, my roommate watches F&F over and over again becuz it is on digital cable 3 * a day) I am pretty sure you got something that can leave me in dust, but if you come up here and race now, I will eat you alive, we have about 2 inches on snow on the ground. ( hahahah,,) I am in MI
my car is not fast. 11's is decent but not enough to be cocky.
here is the set up
PE1818 turbo ( 615 cf/m)
STi injectors+fuel pump.
Catless exhasut.
chipped and 50 shot of laughing gas.
STOCK TRANNY ( surprise surprise )
little this and that does not need to be mentioned.
btw, what mosters are you guys driving ?
EJ

Platinum_Skyline01
02-11-2003, 06:01 PM
i have a GSX, for sure i kno thats a FUC*ING Short as hell race!!
for sure the V6 or V8 Firebird could have came back, the AWD lauch was pretty nice!

DeViL
02-11-2003, 06:23 PM
Aren't you the guy that was feeding a lot of bullshit, platinum?

Self
02-11-2003, 06:23 PM
1995 Camaro Z28 - Looking for low to mid 10s within the next fex track visits

1996 Camaro Z28 - Looking for low 13(I/E, 4.10 gears)

flylwsi
02-11-2003, 07:17 PM
why yes, he's the 14 yr old that drives a gsx....

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i was hoping he was gone...

fatninja19
02-11-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by EJ20
nah, I was just playing a move line man ( I hate that movie, my roommate watches F&F over and over again becuz it is on digital cable 3 * a day) I am pretty sure you got something that can leave me in dust, but if you come up here and race now, I will eat you alive, we have about 2 inches on snow on the ground. ( hahahah,,) I am in MI
my car is not fast. 11's is decent but not enough to be cocky.
here is the set up
PE1818 turbo ( 615 cf/m)
STi injectors+fuel pump.
Catless exhasut.
chipped and 50 shot of laughing gas.
STOCK TRANNY ( surprise surprise )
little this and that does not need to be mentioned.
btw, what mosters are you guys driving ?
EJ


Stock trans? Wow... How long have you been driving/racing your car with the stock trans??? How about the clutch? Did you change your up and down pipes yet?

EJ20
02-11-2003, 09:09 PM
speaking of the uppipe and downpipe, those sons of bitches took me more than 12 hrs, I was cursing at all the subaru engineers for 12 hrs straight. seized bolts after seized bolts.
stock clutch stock tranny, I don't dump clutch, I slipped it , and I have only been to 1/4 track less than 3 times in my entire life, I was sick of getting my ass kicked by the dragsters.

fatninja19
02-11-2003, 10:53 PM
and I have only been to 1/4 track less than 3 times in my entire life


Less than 3 times?? So like 2.69 times? hahahhaa:p

EJ20
02-12-2003, 08:38 AM
ok English Professor!

flylwsi
02-12-2003, 12:51 PM
that would be math actually...

numbers, math?

words, english...

i dunno... maybe...

what kinda power is that putting down compared to the stock numbers?

EJ20
02-12-2003, 03:18 PM
wow,,, what front mount is that? is that the Apexi ? it looks good, all the subaru front mount are so ugly,,,, and require shit loads of cutting.
to be honest, I don't know what I am putting down, never took my car to ger dyno since there is no where close here has a 4wd dyno. stock is somewhere around 150-180 at the wheel. I should be in somewhere 320-350 at the wheel. check out www.turboxs.com, I am at their stage 4 plus a slightly better turbo and 50hp shot juice.
EJ20

flylwsi
02-12-2003, 03:39 PM
that's a custom civic kit...

you wanna talk about cutting?

look at how flimsy that bumper is now...

it's a bit overkill...


i'd love to see your car... and you said you'd do an fmic later?

with 300 or so hp, i'd get one, or at least upgrade all the piping and the size of the factory top mount...

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