McLaren F1 vs. Koenigsegg CC

well, the F1 is still the world's supercar. in the latest car and driver, they test the CC. C/D says that the CC can't take the throne.

CC Stats-
supercharged and intercooled 4.6L V8
655 hp
553 lb ft
6 speed manual
2800 lbs

0-60 - 4.1 seconds(F1-3.2)
0-100 - 8.2 seconds(6.3)
30-50 - 9.7 seconds(7.0)
50-70 - 9.0 seconds(3.7)
1/4 mile - 12.0 seconds @ 127(11.1 @125)

what have we learned? The F1 is and always will be the world's supercar.

Originally posted by hermunn123
50-70 - 9.0 seconds(F1 - 3.7)Why is this stat so far off? :confused: Did they forget to shift or something?

i dont think they shift in these kinds of tests. it's called top gear acceleration so they just stay in 6th. C/D doesn't say what gear the CC was in for these two top gear tests, but the times for the F1 were both in 6th!

The F1 is better. Plus the engine...ohhhh it's got a great engine. :)

ya! who wants a supercharged V6 over a monster V12???

Actually te Super Egg has a Supercharged Ford V-8 rated at 655 HP.

duh!! my brain went dead right there....


it's still a friggin mustang engine though

Originally posted by hermunn123

it's still a friggin mustang engine though

Ya. I think they should have put the 5.4L since they went fixorrepairdaily.

bah just give me a R34 GTR and the excess in cash.. It will do a 8s 1/4 and 0-300kph in 12s :D

Or give me a go cart and the excess...

No they are an awesome car, F1. In everyones dreams..

that was interesting... i thought they were alot closer. The mclaren is also more geared towards top speed than acceleration! :eek:

Mclaren rules as usual

Yup. It's like the perfect car. Every part on the car has the best part you could give it. :cool: I think the LM and racing GTR versions have very little you could to them in terms of perfecting them.

the F1 looks almost like a Saleen S7..and noh, a Saleen S7 isn't a freaking mustang...I wonder how fast is a Saleen S7...anyone? The saleen S7 looks much better than both of those cars...

But overall, gimme a GTR R35 and I'll take it...I can make it go much fast than all those cars...

Originally posted by Miltown_Racer
the F1 looks almost like a Saleen S7..and noh, a Saleen S7 isn't a freaking mustang...I wonder how fast is a Saleen S7...anyone? The saleen S7 looks much better than both of those cars...

But overall, gimme a GTR R35 and I'll take it...I can make it go much fast than all those cars...

actually the Saleen looks like the F1... not the other way around, the mclaren came out like 5 years before. The Mclaren is faster than the S7:

Saleen: 550hp/525 ft/lbs
mclaren: 627hp/479 ft/lbs

0-60mph
saleen: just under 4s
mclaren: 3.4

Top Speed
saleen: 200mph
mclaren: 240mph

weight
saleen: 2756lbs
mclaren: 2496lbs

and the mclaren wasn't even made for acceleration there goal for the car was to make it the fastest. It really is an ulltimate car cause they use all the best materials, carbon fiber body, gold lined engine bay, etc.

actually they weren't even trying to make the world's fastest car, it just happened. they were going for the world's best supercar.

Originally posted by hermunn123
actually they weren't even trying to make the world's fastest car, it just happened. they were going for the world's best supercar.

well i read somewhere that they geared it for top speed... and they wanted it to be the fastest. Ultimate supercar

well i guess you could argue the best supercar would also have the highest top speed, but it just depends on the person. on their top speed run all they did was remove the rev limiter so they didnt do any special gearing for that run.

I'd take the CC. It's lighter, it has more hp and more torque, and it looks better IMO. The only thing is that its not been tested yet. The acceleration is said to be slightly faster than by the Mac and the top speed about the same ( CC estimated 390 kmh, Mac 391 kmh ). The CC is also newer and fresher and more exclusiv IMO. The only really exclusiv feature about the Mac Is the middle postioned steering wheel. But still I go with the CC.

hey chief did you even read the whole post?? the CC has been tested by Car and Driver. the F1 is faster in everything. the CC won in ugliness though. CD said the top speed would be around 225, nowhere near the F1's 240 mph. the CC tips the scales at 2800 lbs, while the F1 is only 2508 lbs. so your statement about the CC being lighter is wrong. researching never hurt anyone. you want to talk about exclusitivity? there were 64 F1's made! now there are less because of crappy drivers who wrecked them. the only thing the F1 has is the central driving position? wrong. it's got Le Mans, many records, and if you knew anything about the car, you would realize how much better it is than the CC.

I'm not come here to argue with you about this. The CC weighs 1100 kg and the Mac 1132 kg. I read the article from cd from the net and there was nothing about the top speed being 225 mph. Here is some more info about the CC http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Koenigsegg@$CCa.html . And looks are subjective. If you dont like the CC I dont care, for me it looks better. The CC is fresher than the Mac and more exclusiv IMO. You can have the CC as coupe and roadster since it has a removable hardtop, thats nice too. The Mac was created to be a road car so lets take it as one, there is no reason to include the Longtail into this since it had a totally different areo packet than the normal F1. For me the CC is the better one, it's got the power the looks and the speed.

i'm not here to argue either. sorry if i came off as being argumentative(sp?). go and find the november 2001 issue of car and driver and read that. in the article(in the magazine) C/D says top speed 225 mph(est). again to find specs on the CC, don't go to supercars.net or pretty much any other website cuz they have terrible information. looks are subjective, i was just giving my opinion. yes, the F1 was created as a road car. did i say anything about the Longtail? i said it won Le Mans, but thats not the longtail. i was talking about its history and prestige when i metioned that, not the Longtail. as of now, Koenigsegg has no prestige or racing history. thats another why i like the F1. the F1 has the speed though.

why does the CC look like a bar of ivory soap with wheels? in my opinion, the best lookin super cars ever, is either the tommy kaira ZZII, Lambourghini diablo GT 6.0, or countache, or the Zonda C12.

If you think about it the Mclaren F1 was made a long time ago and the Saleen s7 was not....So if a new car cant beat it then what can. The Mclaren F1 will stay the flagship of the company unlike other cars which will be replaced. Some will say that the Koenigsegg or Bugatti go faster..They do but the Mclaren F1 to date is still the fastest naturally aspirated car in the world which is good for a car that is more than 15 years old unlike the newer Bugatti with a four turbos and almost 400 horsepower more and the Mclaren F1 still accelerates to 100 mph faster... It doesnt lack in efficency. The Mclaren is rated at 22mpg at the best and 11mpg at the worst.. Which is not bad when the Lamborghini Murcielago gets 4mpg.