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highway racing?Platinum_Skyline01 01-27-2003, 05:38 PM i own a 99 Eclipse GSX, and I heard Supras are fast on the highway, i can top my GSX topspeed at 171 mph on like a 3-5 mile road?? What other cars are fast on the highway? Polygon 01-27-2003, 05:51 PM I would love to hear what you have done to your car to get it to top out at 171! TerminalVelocity 01-27-2003, 05:58 PM With my gearing I should top out at 170 Because of my limiter I stop at 120 DAMN YOU FORD! flylwsi 01-27-2003, 06:25 PM i agree... what did you do to get 171 top speed? and how did you prove it? those cars stock will maybe go 150... 171 is outta the question without mods... consider the thread below before you reply... http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t82829.html Self 01-27-2003, 07:15 PM 171?? Right, like they all said...What the hell kind of mods do you have? I'd be surprised if I see a turbo Eclipse reach even 150mph personally. fatninja19 01-27-2003, 07:23 PM Perhaps it was a typo and missed the "3" button and hit the "7" instead.. hahahahhahahhahaha:p :rolleyes: Or maybe he did get those Two big NOS bottles after that link that flylwsi posted... hahahahahhaahhaha flylwsi 01-27-2003, 07:47 PM don't forget the laptop to run that stuff... he probably talked to harry after he read my post... i dunno though, this kid's probably a novice lead foot... and novice drivers don't use naws... even if he does get two bottles, the big ones... tonight... Platinum_Skyline01 01-27-2003, 07:53 PM my GSX?? its not stock, i modified it with a 18g turbo, Blitz blow-off, HKS Turbo Timer, clutch, air intake, etc... i did top it off at 171, i also worked on the clutch too get it to go 171, it took me almost 1 minute to get to 171! whtteg 01-27-2003, 08:51 PM i also worked on the clutch too get it to go 171, it took me almost 1 minute to get to 171! What exactly did you do to the clutch? Did you get out of the car at 100+ mph and work on it to reach 171 mph? 1 min. to reach 171 mph, what speed is that from. A dead stop? I am sorry I seriously doubt you can tell me anything to make me believe you on this! I think 171 mph is a number you just pulled out of your head. 94svt5.0 01-27-2003, 09:16 PM Just curious how you knew you where going that fast? The speedometers dont go that high do they? Go back it up with a radar reading or GPS reading. Just a bit suprised you didnt flip into the air at that speed. -The Stig- 01-27-2003, 09:36 PM Originally posted by TerminalVelocity With my gearing I should top out at 170 Because of my limiter I stop at 120 DAMN YOU FORD! Yeah.. with your gearing and about 500hp maybe 170mph... not 240hp... 140mph max... I say. Gotta remember after about 90mph aerodynamics become your biggest enemy along with weight... the Bird although 'sleek' to an extent... its just a brick through air compared to something a bit sportier... And... lets see some proof of this 170mph GSX... also.. what do you run in the quarter. If its something stupidly low i'd like to know how you can manage Low Et AND high speeds... fatninja19 01-27-2003, 11:35 PM its not stock, i modified it with a 18g turbo, Blitz blow-off, HKS Turbo Timer, clutch, air intake, etc... i did top it off at 171, i also worked on the clutch too get it to go 171, it took me almost 1 minute to get to 171! So what exactly does etc mean??? Built engine, intercooler, new fuel management system??? I know that the 18g turbo cannot produce enough boost to provide the power to bring a GSX eclipse to 171 mph. Also... Can you please explain what you did to the clutch to make it go 171? I'd like to know too... And did it take 1 minute to hit 171 from 170?? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA You also wrote this.... I got my GSX to go up to 137 mph Was that before the mods you posted??? So you're trying to convince us that those mods you posted gave you a 34mph boost????? Wow.... How about you just apologize for all this bull shit and tell us what you really drive... Or that you're too young to even obtain a learner's permit.:p Self 01-27-2003, 11:54 PM Ooooh, he gotcha:D :D :D flylwsi 01-27-2003, 11:56 PM haha this is funny stuff... considering the gearing in the car, you'd have to have a pretty built motor to hit that kind of speed with the aerodynamics you've got.. and considering the people i know with dsm's around here, you'll need 300+hp... interesting that you mention the turbo timer as a mod. it's not. no mention of exh... no mention of a changed rev limit. no mention of built motor. no fmic. hmm... once you've got those things, like the rebuilt motor and fmic and a bigger than 18g turbo (like a t3/t4 setup or a 20g) and some more electronics in there... then you'll need that "clutch" you've got... no downpipe mentioned, no suspension upgrades mentioned... no fueling upgrade mentioned... to pull that kind of number out and say you went that fast, and then list what amounts to nothing for mods... give us the full list... or admit you're lying... :uhoh: whtteg 01-28-2003, 12:06 AM This post goes to show that people don't think logicaly before just blerting out some nonsense - 171 mph in this make believe car = nonsense i also worked on the clutch too get it to go 171, it took me almost 1 minute to get to 171! = nonsense also HELL the whole thing = nonsense:hehehe: :hehehe: 1SlowAccord 01-28-2003, 12:30 AM Since we're on the topic of top speed. I would like to let you all know that i just got my accord, with intake and exhaust up to 190mph with a 50mph headwind, driving up hill, on a road covered in ice. Ohh and I about forgot the most import part, I was towing an 18 wheeler. It was a strugle at first to get the cemi moving, but once VTEC kicked in I was gone. :D R1-rider 01-28-2003, 12:38 AM lol slow accord. 171 is pure bullshit, in all his mods he didnt mention one drive train mod besides the clutch. The gsx tops out at 139mph. So in order to get 171, you would need: 1. Regeared tranny 2. Stronger axles 3. Stronger flywheel 4. Stronger plated clutch And that is just presuming that you have about 450hp, which is funny why you have such a short list of mods, because with a car like your, I am sure you would list every single mod you have ever done any chance you get. So, untill we see your etc list, please shutup and go away troll. flylwsi 01-28-2003, 12:44 AM off topic, but yes... yumm... that looks delicious... TatII 01-28-2003, 01:05 AM dont forget that hes a GSX thats AWD. more power train loss. its goin to take alot more then 450 hp to get that car to go 171. 171 is like ferrari F360 terrory and almost as fast as a NSX type R *the new ones* -The Stig- 01-28-2003, 03:49 AM I figured it out... somebody was playing a bit too much GT3 one night... except there are no Eclipses in GT3... but still "i upgraded the turbo!!! it goes 200mph!!!!" Milliardo 01-28-2003, 05:53 AM I think he meant 171kph. 150kph is about 90mph, so maybe he meant kph. Let's see...that would be...110mph or so? :D Monkey-Magic-S15-R 01-28-2003, 08:01 AM i was about to point out the AWD thing but someone beat me to it I wanna see pics of this supposed 117mph eclipse DemonZX 01-28-2003, 08:14 AM I won't even waist energy typing...Damn already did:mad: Monkey-Magic-S15-R 01-28-2003, 08:17 AM whore thread whore thread :bloated: no seriously any BS has to be backed up immediately before it gets out of hand like this thread refrain from posting unless you have something constructive to say or any proof i shall now continue to boycott this thread thankyou for your cooperation TatII 01-28-2003, 09:21 AM nah i think i'm goin to contribute to this thread by goin back to the original subject, and answer his question. yes a supra has high end. a supra will have more high end that a little DSM can ever dream off. can't compare those cars together. they just simply are not in the same class. in japan the top weapons of choice for wagan racing *highway* are the supras, rx-7's, nsx, and skyline gt-r. in japan they don't even have eclipses. ahahah. anyways, yeah any one of those cars can either break 200mph, or can come pretty damn close. but it would take a supra less work to break 200mph mostly becusae its more aerodynamic then a skyline. where it will take a skyline over 1000hp and a major rework in the gear ratios to break 200mph, a supra can do it with around 800hp becuase its alot more sleeker. and for the nsx. i'm pretty sure it can go that fast too, its just that i've never seen any nsx break the 700hp mark. so even though the body is more sleeker then the supras, it just lacks the grunt. the rx-7's i'm not too sure about. i'm pretty sure there are a few rx-7's with the Cosmo's 20B triple rotor swap that can break 200mph also. TatII 01-28-2003, 09:31 AM i just read the link that flysi linked. i doubt any of those eclipse can go as fast as they claim. those speed are freakin near super car speed. there is no way in hell that a stock sport compact with either a tiny ass stock turbo, or even worse, a n/a can hit that kind of speed. i'll be even happy if my car can hit 135mph. and my car has a fair amount more power then a eclipse, better drivetrain, and is more sleeker in shape. these guys are making fast speeds seem less ridicious becuse in there everyone seems to be casually sayin they hit htat speed with their stock GS's and etc. shepworldwide 01-28-2003, 01:16 PM bs KrNxRaCer00 01-28-2003, 02:32 PM ::chants:: "back it up...back it u..." u never kno, if the guy looks like paul walker, an has a fake BOV sound, an has his car lookin "fast an furious" his car will top off at 150mph w/ about 7 gears of shifting...o...don't forget to paint it bright green an have stickers, an a huge system in the back, an all that...if u add NAAAWWWSSSS, then ur lookin at a 10 second street demon...:D ...can't believe i wasted time to type all that...stoopid boredom. shepworldwide 01-28-2003, 02:37 PM Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00 u never kno, if the guy looks like paul walker, an has a fake BOV sound, an has his car lookin "fast an furious" his car will top off at 150mph w/ about 7 gears of shifting...o...don't forget to paint it bright green an have stickers, an a huge system in the back, an all that...if u add NAAAWWWSSSS, then ur lookin at a 10 second street demon...:D who you foolin? the guy is probley granny shifting and not double clutchin like he's supposed to :spit: Platinum_Skyline01 01-28-2003, 06:21 PM i was really goin 160's on my eclipse GSX!! Spectrum 01-28-2003, 06:34 PM http://128.121.78.212/videos/topof5th.wmv Thats a turbo Eclipse, and it is not even highly modded. When you work out the gearing he is almost doing 180. whtteg 01-28-2003, 06:35 PM i was really goin 160's on my eclipse GSX!! I thoughtit was 171 mph! You are so full of BS you don't remember what you oringinaly posted! We ALL want to see mods and pics to beleive you! i also worked on the clutch too get it to go 171, it took me almost 1 minute to get to 171! And I really want to know what is was you did to the clucth? whtteg 01-28-2003, 06:41 PM Spectrum That was the sorriest video I have ever seen. Plus if the guy in the video did it it doesn't mean that the one in this post did! The one in the video sounded like it had been highly moded. It had a loopy idle which tells me yes it was modded. fatninja19 01-28-2003, 06:46 PM Spectrum: What mods(that aren't high..hahahah... you get it.. not highly modded.. aren't high? hahahha.. ok.) was inlcuded in that turbo eclipse that supposedly did 180? And is that a fwd eclipse or a AWD? Spectrum 01-28-2003, 06:57 PM I never said that skyline did, I'm just showing this to people who doubt the speed these cars have. That was a FWD and heres a link to his mods http://www.austindsm.org/members/fahad/index.htm Loopy idle= highly modded??? Poor vac at idle= loopy idle. He was upgraded cams, what do you expect. A new turbo isn't highly modified by any means. It has no internal work, no head work or any other thing that I would consider to make it highly modded. Naturally awd DSMs are slower at top speed, but they are great off the line. They can pull 1.8 60's pretty much stock. DblOvrhedCamron 01-28-2003, 07:50 PM calls BS flag- (I wanna hear about your massive modifications to gear configuration) please enlighten us. PS- TatII I'm diggin the new sig pic man, That shot in the rain at night is good lookin. :D Spectrum 01-28-2003, 07:56 PM What are you calling the bs flag on. That car is well documented. No my car doesn's have any major mods, I never said it did. Gear configurations :rolleyes: . People in this forum put way too many words in others mouths. Show a where I said any of what you are asking. DblOvrhedCamron 01-28-2003, 08:22 PM Originally posted by Spectrum What are you calling the bs flag on. That car is well documented. No my car doesn's have any major mods, I never said it did. Gear configurations :rolleyes: . People in this forum put way too many words in others mouths. Show a where I said any of what you are asking. I'm sorry did you post this thread?????? do you have a gsx that supposedly techs out 171 MPH? did I post a quote from your post?:rolleyes: Spectrum 01-28-2003, 08:24 PM Platinum_Skyline01 started this thread. Yes i have a GSX but no it doesn't top out at 171. I never really take it over 130. kicker1_solo 01-28-2003, 08:47 PM haha, skyline boy went to go get help from his fellow gsx boys http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t83995.html -The Stig- 01-28-2003, 09:01 PM hahaha he really did!! so funny... fatninja19 01-28-2003, 09:58 PM ACK! That BASTARD!!!!:twoguns: :spam: whtteg 01-28-2003, 10:11 PM Wuth all these crazy top speeds dsm's should be supercars! LOL:bloated: BeEfCaKe 01-28-2003, 11:26 PM Originally posted by kicker1_solo haha, skyline boy went to go get help from his fellow gsx boys http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t83995.html hahahaha Spectrum 01-28-2003, 11:31 PM Originally posted by whtteg Wuth all these crazy top speeds dsm's should be supercars! LOL:bloated: Vehicle: 95 integra Ls , 91 civic dx Look who's talking :rolleyes: whtteg 01-28-2003, 11:40 PM Vehicle: 95 integra Ls , 91 civic dx Yes but I am not claiming obserd top speeds. I am sorry but anything over say 160mph is supercar territory. And just in case you don't know what a supercar is a few examples are as follows: Ferrari, McLarren F1, Porshe etc. Not fake dsm's claiming to do 171 and 180 mph, you guys are so dumb it is obserd the speedo's in those cars don't go anywhere near that high, so did he have like a ferrari 360 or 550 or something like that beside him? I didn't think so! fatninja19 01-28-2003, 11:43 PM I think he was referring to a DSM and 171 mph. Spectrum 01-29-2003, 12:36 AM the speedo goes to 170 btw, and then basically any dsm with a full exhaust, new turbo and a boost controller is a supercar. And any ways at high speeds, speedos aren't very accurate, instead you figure out your speed with the gear ratios, tire size, and rpms. Even if the speedo went to 80 mph you could still figure your speed out. Shut your mouth and do some research. flylwsi 01-29-2003, 12:51 AM speedos tend to read faster than what you're running at higher speeds. tachs (factory) aren't that accurate either. so what are you trying to pull here? a "mildly" modded gsx couldn't hit 160 or 170. i've got a few highly modded gsx's in my group of friends, and no one runs that fast without considerable mods. you also said "if you work out the gearing, he's doing about 180" but you didn't explain... for example, my car, which at 2000rpm in 5th is doing 40, will theoretically hit 144 at the rev limiter at 7200. which i don't know that i can find, mainly b/c of the aerodynamics of my car. also... i've found from dsm owners that things like your rear hatch tend to get really shaky about 150... so do you have the extra tie downs and what not to keep it on? (not you, sprectrum, but anyone that's running these numbers) no one said it's impossible, but we're saying that mr. platinum hasn't backed it up. at all. you coming here to try to help isn't really doing much. the only way i'll really trust a top speed is with a list of mods (all of em, not one with etc at the end) and "my speedo and tach said x mph" (admitting they may read incorrectly)... or a radar gun listing... until then. 160 is bs. sorry. whtteg 01-29-2003, 12:52 AM Yes with the proper gear ratio and about 600 hp maybe. Why dont you shut your pie hole and research the fact that at those speeds the aerodynamic drag on the car is so high you would need crazy hp to overcome it! So think about that pal!:mad: KrNxRaCer00 01-29-2003, 12:59 AM Originally posted by Spectrum the speedo goes to 170 btw, and then basically any dsm with a full exhaust, new turbo and a boost controller is a supercar. And any ways at high speeds, speedos aren't very accurate, instead you figure out your speed with the gear ratios, tire size, and rpms. Even if the speedo went to 80 mph you could still figure your speed out. Shut your mouth and do some research. don't really think u can add the DSM to a list of supercars...an btw, i've never heard of RPMs, only RPM...:D (i kno im a jackass). i say until the guy puts up a list of mods, then i gotta be pretty skeptical. flylwsi 01-29-2003, 01:01 AM :apoke: hello, platinum skyline, are you there? did you die on us? list of mods please? Spectrum 01-29-2003, 01:18 AM The video I posted was in a car that had at most 450 horsepower. It clearly hit over 170 mph. He was bouncing off the factory set 7500 rpm redline, hmm that rules out factory tach. So at 7500 rpm, in 5th gear it IS IMPOSSIBLE for him to be doing less that 180 mph. I guess your friends with highly modded dsms dont know what they are talking about. I have hit 150 and no my hatch does not shack at all. A 2G fwd dsm has a 5th gear ratio of 0.741. So at 7500 rpm the it would be spinning at 10,121.46 rpm. With a final drive of 4.153 the axel would be spinning at 2437.14 rpm or 40.619 rps. With a tire that is 79.98 inches around spinning at 40.619 rps that is 270.742 fps. That is 974671 feet per hour. Divide by 5280 and what do you get???? 184.597 MPH. That does not even include the centrifugal force increasing the diameter of the tire. Is that explained well enough for you? -The Stig- 01-29-2003, 01:41 AM Originally posted by Spectrum The video I posted was in a car that had at most 450 horsepower. It clearly hit over 170 mph. He was bouncing off the factory set 7500 rpm redline, hmm that rules out factory tach. So at 7500 rpm, in 5th gear it IS IMPOSSIBLE for him to be doing less that 180 mph. I guess your friends with highly modded dsms dont know what they are talking about. I have hit 150 and no my hatch does not shack at all. A 2G fwd dsm has a 5th gear ratio of 0.741. So at 7500 rpm the it would be spinning at 10,121.46 rpm. With a final drive of 4.153 the axel would be spinning at 2437.14 rpm or 40.619 rps. With a tire that is 79.98 inches around spinning at 40.619 rps that is 270.742 fps. That is 974671 feet per hour. Divide by 5280 and what do you get???? 184.597 MPH. That does not even include the centrifugal force increasing the diameter of the tire. Is that explained well enough for you? You forgot to factor in the size of your NAWWZ Bottle... R1-rider 01-29-2003, 02:13 AM yes, he forgot to remember that there is a very important equation for deducting the distance that a wheel whil travel simple using the diameter of a tire, you cannot simply do this Sidewall+wheel+sidewall=x x*Pi=y y*(RPS)=(traveled distance/per second) hihi R1-rider 01-29-2003, 02:18 AM ofcourse it oculd be 5am, i is drunk, and am wrong... Spectrum 01-29-2003, 02:43 AM I assume you are talking about load on the tire smushing it down thus decreasing its diameter. That would not really come into play on a car with low downforce and at such high speeds. And the centrifugal force would probably cancel that out anyways. Anyways I'm done with the math. Believe what you want. DblOvrhedCamron 01-29-2003, 06:00 AM Originally posted by Spectrum Vehicle: 95 integra Ls , 91 civic dx Look who's talking :rolleyes: he's not claiming to run outrageous speeds. Is he? :rolleyes: DemonZX 01-29-2003, 09:40 AM I don't know?! I have to go cause I forgot my snorkle! I hate to bring up the Z, but a 95' 300ZXTT w/ modifications i.e.(comp., exh., intk., intrclr.) Will not hit 180! And I believe, tell me if I'm wrong here, that the Z is a bit more highly tuned vehicle than an eclipse. I'm not calling either of you a liar, but...did you show us the end of the video when the pistons shot through the hood of the car?! Polygon 01-29-2003, 12:52 PM Originally posted by Spectrum Naturally awd DSMs are slower at top speed, but they are great off the line. They can pull 1.8 60's pretty much stock. I am not buying that either. 1.8 0-60, pretty much stock. You both had better show some proof or stop trolling around here. First it was 171, now it is 160s. I don't buy any of this. You have to take a lot of things into account when hitting those speeds. Factory speedometers aren't that accurate, even at moderate speeds. And looking at his speedo, he wasn't doing over 170. According to the speedo he was close, but you need to more hard evidence to back that up like a radar reading. Hell changing the size of your wheels will mess up the speedo. Also a bigger turbo is still a lot of work to install, the guy in the video also seems to have a boost controller and air/fuel regulator, which take a good amount of tuning to get the right settings. He has put a lot of time and money into that car to get it to run that fast. Also, someone needs to tell him that he is going to blow his engine shifting like an idiot. Both of you show some proof of these claims and stop posting BS and start posting the truth. You are only going to start a flame war, and I will not tolerate that. Platinum_Skyline01 01-29-2003, 12:54 PM THANKS for da info ppls, i wuz jus LYING bouts GSX goin 160s, buh i need those info for my GSX, if yall mad at me, my bad yallz!! DemonZX 01-29-2003, 12:55 PM Poly sounds like an honest to God Moderator!:) BLU CIVIC 01-29-2003, 01:00 PM Originally posted by Platinum_Skyline01 THANKS for da info ppls, i wuz jus LYING bouts GSX goin 160s, buh i need those info for my GSX, if yall mad at me, my bad yallz!! :biggrin2: I GUESS WE FORGIVE YOU...BUT IT'S NOT GOOD TO LIE ON THE FORUM MAKE A BAD NAME FOR YOUSELF :bloated: I ALSO LIE THE WAY YOU GOT CAUGHT IN A LIE...AND TRIED TO GET OTHER PEOPLE IN ON IT...:lol2: NEXT TIME YOU'D BENEFIT ON ASKING "HOW TO GET YOUR GSX UP TO 171" INSTEAD OF CLAIMING IT :wave: flylwsi 01-29-2003, 01:03 PM where'd the ghetto-ism come from? what info do you need for your car? don't worry about other fast cars, worry about getting some real mods on your car to make it fast. geez. it doesn't matter what anyone else can run. if you don't know what your car is capable of and you don't understand what you're doing, go to the library, get a book and learn. don't come here asking bs questions and making bs claims to try to get the information you think you need. it's a waste of everyone else's time. including mine. and i just wasted some more to respond. great. DemonZX 01-29-2003, 01:06 PM Poly How about showing somemore Moderator skills, and END THIS POST PLEASE! Before anyone else waists time and energy on it!:eek: Polygon 01-29-2003, 01:12 PM Originally posted by DemonZX Poly sounds like an honest to God Moderator!:) Scary, huh? Originally posted by DemonZX Poly How about showing somemore Moderator skills, and END THIS POST PLEASE! Before anyone else waists time and energy on it!:eek: Good point, there is no point in it being left open now. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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