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Blazinazn91
01-21-2003, 06:03 PM
Ive owned a 2002 Navigator for about half a year now and the mileage is really pissing me off. I like everything about the car except that it gets 12 mpg and I cannot go anywhere without having to pump the gas and the fact that i have to buy the most expensive gasoline. Are there any possible solutions to increase the fuel economy at all? I know u can use electronic fuel controllers to increase mpg on import cars but would that also be possible on my navigator?

Neutrino
01-21-2003, 08:24 PM
Well getting a cat back will reduce backpresure and therefore increase the gas mileage a little.

But there is nothing you can do to dramatically increase the gas mileage. Except buy another car.

YogsVR4
01-21-2003, 10:06 PM
Make sure that big bastard is tuned up and the tires properly inflated. Beyond that, you can replace parts to reduce weight, which is quite expensive.













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Neutrino
01-22-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by YogsVR4
Make sure that big bastard is tuned up and the tires properly inflated. Beyond that, you can replace parts to reduce weight, which is quite expensive.


Even if he reduces weight still that suv is still aerodynamic as a parachute.

Jimster
01-22-2003, 01:16 AM
moved to the appropriate forum

boingo82
01-22-2003, 01:55 AM
According to the EPA, there are only 3 WORSE gas mileage SUVs you could have bought, the Land Rover Range Rover 4.4L, the Land Rover Discovery II 4.6L, and the Merc G500 5L. You are tied with the Merc G55 AMG 5.5L for est. annual fuel costs.
Every other vehicle in the SUV class gets better mileage than you. And pretty much every other vehicle in every other class gets better mileage than the SUVs that get better mileage than you.

My first bit of advice is that if fuel efficiency is an important concern to you, or if polluting the environment is an important concern, check www.fueleconomy.gov for listings of the best MPG vehicles in each class, and the least-polluting vehicles. The Navigator scores between 1 and 3 out of 10 possible points. This is lousy, but there are worse SUVs, such as all of Chevy's models, which score 0.

Second (this one is free, unlike buying a new car or replacing parts), examine your driving habits. My boyfriend cannot understand how I get 28 mpg in his Maxima when he gets 20 mpg. Easy. I follow the suggestions here: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm
I've gotten 32 mpg in my G20 (rated 22-28 city-highway) and 43 mpg in my exSentra (rated 31-37 city-highway). With smart driving you can drastically reduce your gas costs. Good luck.

fordjay16
06-28-2003, 07:30 PM
navigator is dumb and so is the escalade. I don't get why you would want a luxury suv :bloated: i saw a navigator yesterday, it was huge no wonder you get bad gas mileage.

ssjwizard
10-04-2003, 03:19 PM
well 1 option is to get a turbo. and yes using a lighter driving foot and idling when possible will pick you up a bit. high flow exaust helps a bit aswell.

david93073
10-06-2003, 06:31 PM
Actually the GM full SUV's scored better, all GM full size use whats called flex-fuel, they can burn either gasoline or E-85 (85% ethonyl-15% gas). If u use that fuel economy calculator and choose a K1500 4wd GM model u will get 2 choices, 1 for E85 and the other is gas. The gasoline version got a score of 3

iSPYtraveler
10-23-2003, 07:03 PM
Lincoln Navigator is an SUV, by definition they are designed to perform a specific function and it is not logical to compare them with cars. Those of us who spend a lot of time on the road, require the comfort these luxury vehicles provide.

If you are going to complain about gas mileage --- these vehicles (SUV's) are NOT for you.

I purchased my Navigator 2003 late December 2003 and have over 38000 miles on the odometer. I can carry five adults very comfortably on long trips across states. My previous vehicle was a Ford Expedition which I traded in at 16000 trouble free miles.

Interstate travel gives me almost 14.0-14.7 mpg, whereas city driving (I am in New York City multiple time a week) yields 13.5-13.9 mpg. Most of the times I use premium, however I have substituted with regular if the price for premium is over $1.65/gal. There was very slight difference in engine performance or gas mileage.

boingo82
10-23-2003, 07:30 PM
Lincoln Navigator is an SUV, by definition they are designed to perform a specific function and it is not logical to compare them with cars. Those of us who spend a lot of time on the road, require the comfort these luxury vehicles provide.

If you are going to complain about gas mileage --- these vehicles (SUV's) are NOT for you.

I purchased my Navigator 2003 late December 2003 and have over 38000 miles on the odometer. I can carry five adults very comfortably on long trips across states. My previous vehicle was a Ford Expedition which I traded in at 16000 trouble free miles.

Interstate travel gives me almost 14.0-14.7 mpg, whereas city driving (I am in New York City multiple time a week) yields 13.5-13.9 mpg. Most of the times I use premium, however I have substituted with regular if the price for premium is over $1.65/gal. There was very slight difference in engine performance or gas mileage.

Wow, you bought it in the future!!! And the mileage stated for your Expedition is not impressive - I assume you meant 160000.

I agree, if you're blowing this kind of money on transportation, then fuel costs are not your biggest enemy. Try depreciation.

Let's say you buy a base model Navigator, a 2002 model, in 2002. You pay around $50k, right? We're going to assume you drive the average mileage of 15,000 per year and average 14 mpg. And we're going to assume you're spending $2 a gallon for premium. Well 2 years later you decide to sell your Navigator and buy something different. Your Navigator is now worth (according to Edmunds.com) about $27,000 private party.

Money spent on gas: $4,285.71

Money spent on depreciation: $23,000

So, you spent less than 1/5 as much on gas as you did on depreciation. In fact, you would have to drive about 85,000 miles a year in your Navigator for the gas cost to equal the depreciation cost. So, relatively speaking, gas is cheap.

iSPYtraveler: I know this example does not apply directly to you. I was going to do one with you as the example but Edmunds does not have TMV prices for used 2003 Navs.

hiphophomer
10-23-2003, 10:17 PM
Lincoln Navigator is an SUV, by definition they are designed to perform a specific function and it is not logical to compare them with cars. Those of us who spend a lot of time on the road, require the comfort these luxury vehicles provide.

If you are going to complain about gas mileage --- these vehicles (SUV's) are NOT for you.

I purchased my Navigator 2003 late December 2003 and have over 38000 miles on the odometer. I can carry five adults very comfortably on long trips across states. My previous vehicle was a Ford Expedition which I traded in at 16000 trouble free miles.

Interstate travel gives me almost 14.0-14.7 mpg, whereas city driving (I am in New York City multiple time a week) yields 13.5-13.9 mpg. Most of the times I use premium, however I have substituted with regular if the price for premium is over $1.65/gal. There was very slight difference in engine performance or gas mileage.
i would like to put 7k miles on my 2012 murcielago gtr....wtf are you talking about???????

gdab
04-25-2004, 06:43 AM
I have a Navigator 02 (4x4) and is bad on Gas, but I use it on the week end to pull a Baja boat 22.5FT from dry storage. During the week it gets use by my wife she drive 3 miles to got to work. I save $1,500 vs approx $300 of bad gas mileage on a year. If I had to drive it for work, it would be nuts.

OK, here is what I did. The truck was getting 12mpg and not even 14mpg on the hwy. I replace the air filter (it was nasty), inflated the tires to 1psi (they were 5 psi under) over the recommended. I got out on the hwy and reset the trip computer and at 72mpg got 20.7mpg avg. I then drove of into the city, I drove it easy, and made shure not to accelerate fast and at the end of the day got 18mpg average.

I was just in CT, the prior week and rented a Buick Randevous and drove mostly 90% on hwy and got 20.8 mpg avg. I drove the 3.4L Buick at normal to fast pace.

The vehicle maintenance and way you drive can change your gas mileage dramatically. I bet you can find people that would drive a 4 dr. v6 sedan that would get under 18mpg, just because the way they drive.

bigavery329
10-19-2004, 07:15 AM
Wow ! I am suprised at all the complaints about gas mileage...Surely you people were aware of this before your purchase...? I have a 2001 Nav and we love it, we are averaging 11.9 - 12.5 mpg, and I am content with that. Whille I certainly do wish oil prices would decrease, I have just cut back in other areas to off-set the higher fuel cost for the Nav. Its a huge SUV that is 4WD so its not going to get much better.

dsmkid95
10-20-2004, 07:10 PM
i have to agree with bigavery. we have a navigator also and we looked into all the fuel we would be spending considering it is a LUXURY vehicle and you are PAYING top dollar for everyting on the car. if paying to much money for gas on a huge suv like that, i would consider selling it and getting a honda crv or something along those lines.

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