300ZX vs. RX-7 vs. Supra

Hmm. All stock of course. Which would you guys rather spend the money on (reliability not a factor)

Grrrr, all three are great, I want all three. Anyhow I had to go with the Supra simply because I love the interior and exterior. I would have picked the RX-7 if it weren't for that pesky valve overlap that made for bas gas mileage cause' they look dead sexy soem for the 300ZX.

Of course I am talking about the latest gens.

Gotta go Supra with this one... They all look great and awesome potential. I just feel out of the three the Supra has my vote.

oh man. That's an evil decision but I'm gonna go Supra.

I'm gonna have to go with RX-7 because I love rotary engines. The amount of horsepower you can get out of those small engines is just insane, and the styling of the car is just so damn sexy.:cool:

RX-7 all the way... Supra is kool too, but i rather have a tt rotary engine and subtract a couple hundred pounds with superior handling

yeah as much as i like the 300zx and rx7 i still the the supra is the best of the 3
but i'd love to own any of them

Guess what I voted for!

Not a huge fan of the 300ZX, but I love both the Rx7 and the Supra. Had to go with the Rx7 though, because I like the exterior styling just a TINY bit more. Any of the three would be nice to have though:)

It really REALLY depends on the generation of car. FD3S to Z32 to 3rd gen Supra, FD ownz. FC to Z31 to A770 2nd-gen, FC. FB to Z31 to Celica Supra with the "samurai" bodywork, Supra.

Z cars are at their best when light and inexpensive. The 280ZX through to the Z32 300ZX were neither light nor inexpensive. I like the Z32, but it really doesn't fit in when you line it up with the classic Z's.

Now, when do we get the next RX-7 (Mazda says it's still on their to-do list) and the next Supra? The 350Z needs competition.

when looking at those 3 cars... then reading that the comparo is stock to stock... no mods...

i go rx7, b/c i love great handling cars...

and it also says reliability isn't a question... so i go rx again...

the 300 is nice, but weighty and has a really tight engine compartment...

the supra is a big hulking monster that seems underpowered from the factory...

so... the only car i would take stock is the rx...

if we're talking about modded... it's a different game, considering the hp that can come out of the supra...

Well, as much as I'd like the displacement of the 300ZX and the Supra, I'm going to have to go with the light weight of the FD...

I'm assuming we're talking about the latest generation of course ;)

Originally posted by Polygon

I would have picked the RX-7 if it weren't for that pesky valve overlap that made for bas gas mileage cause' they look dead sexy soem for the 300ZX.



Valve overlap? What valves? :hehehe:

Originally posted by Cbass
Well, as much as I'd like the displacement of the 300ZX and the Supra, I'm going to have to go with the light weight of the FD...

I'm assuming we're talking about the latest generation of course ;)



Valve overlap? What valves? :hehehe:

OK PEOPLE!!!! I know they aren't valves, that is what I like to call them. It sounds more technical than holes. :p

Hehe, I'm going to continue being smug... Port overlap ;)

Originally posted by Cbass
Hehe, I'm going to continue being smug... Port overlap ;)

Ok, well port sounds a lot better, I'm just not used to rotaries you smug son of a . . . . . :D

Rx7 all the way, supra is a a great ride but in my opinion rx7 looks a little better. Handling from what i have heard RX7 takes the cake .... u just gotta give it to the rotary power.

no no noo~~ no more rx-7s!!! ben repeat after me! "i do not like RX-7's" that car is a nightmare to work on. i just worked on one last night and i'm still not done, i never want to touch a wankel engine ever again! *still having nightmares about RX-7's*

Sorry, all latest gens forgot to mention that.

Yeah, 7's are a bitch and a quarter to work on, and they need a looooot of workin! (That's why I said reliability not a factor ;) )

Yeah, port overlap it is poly, hehe.

I saw a pic on the "new" concept 7, its kinda uglified, like the 300zx was to the 350Z

Can you show us a link to this alleged new RX7 Steel?

I've been giving serious thought to rebuilding the 12A that's in the '81 right now... sure it weighs 350lbs, but I'm sure it would make a great project engine for a Super 7 or something :D Hey, maybe I'll assemble a spare transaxle, and make a mid engined rotary powered tube frame roadster!

Please, someone stop me now, I'll do it :hehehe:

Well I am bucking my Nissan Trend here and choosing the Supra. I am assuming the Generation is open.

While it is heavier than the RX7, and I do like the Series 6 shape, the supra is a nice all round package with a very strong base to work with in the future. I honestly dislike the rotary engine. Reliability being a major factory, followed by the exhaust note.

Handling is not as crisp with the supra as it is with the RX but overall ride, comfort, go to whoa, and finish has swayed my choice.

AS for comfort You have to go wtih the Z. It was voted one of the best sport cars to tracvel in. It is very comfortable compared to the other two.

http://overboost.com/pix.asp?image=./images/1030/full/DSCN6309.jpg

here it is... the rx8 as seen at the tokyo auto salon...

nonono, not the RX-8, but a 4th gen 7. I can't seem to find the pic now:confused: but when i do, i'll post it.

Razor: I think the exhaust note is the coolest out of any cars for the 7 (read- LOUD)

Yeah, I heard they've been working on a lightweight 2 door they want to market as the RX7... 4th Generation RX7! That would be series 8 I suppose?

no, iirc, it looked completley differnt than the 8. And they are only going to make it if the 8 sells good.... so go out and buy RX-8's!:D

I would ahve to go with the rx7. i have driven my friends at an autocross, not that i ahve driven a supra or 300zx, but i don't see how it could feel any better than what that felt.

Got to go with the 300zx just saw an awsome red one with everything done it:bloated: sounded sooo:eek: mean I almost s!&t myself

I've driven all 3 (briefly) and I'd have to say by far my personal choice is the Supra. I like the RX7 for handling but I just love the way the Supra moves. And I don't like the idea of a rotary. I'll stick with my pistons. Those rotary engines wear out faster. (at least my friend's did)

Granted, the 300Z IS comfortable but throw some racing seats in that Supra and I'm good. The S. comes with so much power stock and it's so cost effective vs. other cars of its stature/type (I'm talking the TT here) Now the 300Z is cheap and it comes with huge potential but you've already got a shitload of power with the Supra.
Supras are pretty scare around here, they've mostly all migrated to the coasts, so when you do have the honor of seeing one it's pretty special and 'exotic'. RX7s are fairly rare but I had a friend with one so it wasn't as special and then 300Zs are pretty common.
In terms of body style They're all 3 nice. I love the wide body style of the RX7 and the Z for that matter... and I like the cabin and the back lights on the RX7 but the S. is so aerodynamic and rounded and SO DAMN SEXY. but hey that's my personal preference...

I guess my opinions a bit biased. Since the Supra is like my favorite car in the world... I actually had a choice between the Supra and an RX7 (both with some real minor body damage, something like 94-97, w\ 40-60K miles.) Gettin a Supra come Septemberish.
:D :D ...I want my Supra...

I must be getting ol... the Supra lookslikea jelly bean wanna be Esclipe the rx-7 is pretty exotic actually..

But the 300zx ook it category 5 out 7 years all 3 were aeround it's sleeker, cleener and flat out smoking

as far as performance they are all within tenths of each other so the right mods willl maake anyone beat the other...


You couldn't give me Supra uhh
makes me think of the Srt-4 trying to hard to look cool... Rx-7 just were.. cool but too small and inmy opinion overated..at one time al you heard about was how great they were.. wat happened


no its the 300 for sure

I have to go Supra on this one...I've driven modified 300z's and I still think the Supra's have them beat when it comes to power and the delivery of the power. I'm biased in my opinion though.

One more thing about the Supra.. their engines and the whole drivetrain is soo amazing..

never really thought about it.. but a supra almost does look like a jelly bean..still like it tho, rx-7 would have to be the winner

The only reason to get any of those three cars is to do something with it. I voted the supra because the only thing that you could do to a zx is maybe some engine work which you can also do with a supra, and with the Rx-7 I just don't like the fact that it has no pistons. Also that they are horrible engines. I also would prefer the supra because of the specs

These are all Turboed just in case. Exspecially the 95' Rx-7
Performance (supra)
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 4.9 sec. Braking Distance: 109 ft.
Road Holding Index: 0.98 g Base Number of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 3 liters Base Engine Type: Inline 6 -1
Horsepower: 320 hp Max Horsepower: 5600 rpm
Torque: 315 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 4000 rpm
Drive Type: RWD Turning Circle: 35.8 ft.

Performance (300zx)
Base Number of Cylinders: 6 Base Engine Size: 3 liters
Base Engine Type: V6 -1 Horsepower: 300 hp
Max Horsepower: 6400 rpm Torque: 283 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3600 rpm Drive Type: RWD
Turning Circle: 34.1 ft.

Performance (Rx-7)
Base Number of Cylinders: 2 Base Engine Size: 1.3 liters
Base Engine Type: Rotary -1 Horsepower: 255 hp
Max Horsepower: 6500 rpm Torque: 217 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 5000 rpm Drive Type: RWD

Specs are great aren't they. Go for the Supra if you know whats best for you.

Got all specs from edmunds.com by the way the 0-60's if you noticed aren't on the last two cause thye didn't have it logged. So if you want to know what it is Pm me and I will help you do the math.

The Supra Baby! Inline 6, RWD, Twin Turbo(optional) Raw power! Sure beats a V-6 nissan, or wankel mazda. But I do like all three.Ah the days of the mid 90's are gone, they were all discontinued. But Nissan is comin back, So is Mazda. Everyone pray for the Supras Return to the U.S.

I vote for the 300zx TT (Im am a bit biased though :) )

They are a great bang for buck and have good modding potential, although the labour costs get quite expensive.

The '91 ZXs run a 13.7 qm stock, not bad for a 12 yo car!

They are a great bang for buck and have good modding potential, although the labour costs get quite expensive.


oh yea. I think the 300Z probably has the biggest potential out of a LOT of cars, not only these three. I mean, everything's got potential but the Z one is more than capable of getting pretty nicely up there

How can you say that the Z has the biggest power potential out of the three of these cars? First off, through very simple modifications(BPU) the Supra pushes well over 400 rwhp. Secondly, I have seen consistant horsepower numbers that range in the quad-digits with Supras. Please, find me a Z pushing 1000+hp numbers. And third, the number of 600 plus horsepower Supras is far greater than the number of Z's on the road pushing those kinds of numbers. Not only that, a lot of those 600 plus cars are daily driven.

Side note: I thought the RX-7 had 320 bhp stock

i was thinking on the same wavelength.

keep in mind how difficult it is to mod a z, b/c the engine and trans have to practically be taken out to get work done. not easy.

engine bay is super cramped if you put bigger turbos on it.

gotta drop cross member to swap clutch.

verrrrrrrrry hot underhood b/c of under tray that is good for aero, not for cool-o.

engines have a cooling problem due to casting flash in back (rear cyl's)

read up on the build up that scc did on their white ride...

nice car, but alot to drop temps...

You're right... I don't exactly know what I was thinking there. Sry hittin the vtec again :bonghitte

The car that has the best bottom end to jack up the horsepower to 800+ is the Supra. However, all three (as well as my favorite VR4s) can get to the 400hp range with inexpensive mods.

RX-7 all the way. The styling far exceeds the Supra or 300ZX, and the handling absolutely destroys both of those cars on the track. Even if the car is a headache to work on mechanically speaking, how is that much different then working on a piston engine? Taking good care of that engine drastically reduces the amount of problems that develop. However I would rather kill myself then keep the stock TT setup on the rex, a single turbo is infinitely better for reliability, and power.

By the way, i did not mention how much i love the 2JZ-GTE engine. It is without a doubt the most over specced engine to ever leave the production table, most supra owners you meet running over 600HP still are using many of the stock internals.

Also Cynoptics, perhaps you should list the weight of each car, as it is the reason why the rex can still keep up regaurdless of lower hp figures, and 9000rpm redline hihi.

Teh 300zx can do anything the supra can. the main reason why you'll see less Zs with 1000hp than 1000hp Supras is because only a few people with 300ZXs would go over 500hp. the JUN/BLITZ 300zx makes 1000hp. Overall the rx-7 is the best car out of all three cars but I voted for teh Z cuz im biased and its the oldest of teh three.

My vote goes to the supra....oh yeaaah. I LOVE the looks and the style of it and the engine has so much potential, Even though you said stock I would still take it stock and then start on the mods later :bigthumb:

supras can be modded to be the fastest car out of the three

that has my vote

The 300zx is a hell of a car.

Besides the performance issue, it's much more civilized, everyday friendly car. Once you sit in one, you feel the difference: Suede and leather interior, sexy ergonomics, and nice dashboard.

Contarry to the new 350z, the 300zx has a near-luxury car focus to it, besides the performance...

300zx :bigthumb:

we're talking about racing here, not luxury :smile: otherwise i'd agree with you

Holy old thread batman!!



I'm honestly not sure which I'd go with, only because I love a little of everything and can't make up my mind. I think I love the RX-7 for it's looks and weight, I love the Supra because of it's possibilities, and I love the Z because of it's luxury. I can't decide....:frown:

Um I would take the 300zx then sell it and get a 330i:tongue: "don't hate the car hate the driver"

Why does everyone love the Supra? Doesn't it only come with a 4 speed Auto:loser: except for the turbo with does come with a 6 speed. What's so great about it? The 330i is almost identical in weight and they have the same hp and displacement. And doesn't the BMW handle better? And I don't know about you but I would rather have a BMW than a Toyota, BMW is just nicer. But I'm biased :icesangel

oh by the way I voted for the 300zx

Those Supras are really nice cars you would be surprised if you actually ever got to sit in one. Simply put those twin turbo Supras are a very fast import. They give Camaros and Mustangs a good run they might even be faster I don't really know.

lil quicker Devil

Car-Stats.com Report for 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo
Obtained from C&D August, 1997
0-60: 5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 105


they could easily give corvettes and porsches a run for their money.... imagine if you popped one of those engines in a much lighter car ...like a 240 :biggrin:

if there all bone stock i say supra. I like the styling and the potential in the supra, and they are rarer than rx-7.

this next think i attemt to say may be very confusing.

I like the 300ZX and the Supra for the same reason.. bolth of them are out of production but when you see one, they look like they just came of the line. to an uneducated eye a 96 supra or a 93 ZX looks new

as i said this is very hard to explain maybe one or two of you understand what i mean

Yeah really I remember going on Supraforums.com and someone explaining that there are a lot of Supra owners in Northern Virginia.....riiight where? I rarely see any of them. So far I've seen two red ones and a white one thats about it.

lil quicker Devil
Car-Stats.com Report for 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo
Obtained from C&D August, 1997
0-60: 5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 105

97 was still the LT1 V8 right? So yeah they were faster then. Thats why it makes a good choice for an import, its quick as hell.

my biased choice is the rx-7 for it's overall sportiness. it is just superior overall with it's weight, weight ratio, center of gravity, power potential. and it just doesn't get much sexier than the rx-7.

Originally posted by mynismo
lil quicker Devil

Car-Stats.com Report for 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo
Obtained from C&D August, 1997
0-60: 5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 105


they could easily give corvettes and porsches a run for their money.... imagine if you popped one of those engines in a much lighter car ...like a 240 :biggrin:
the supra tts have either a six speed or a 4 speed auto. the 5 speed is only available on the non-turbo models.

Originally posted by mynismo
lil quicker Devil

Car-Stats.com Report for 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo
Obtained from C&D August, 1997
0-60: 5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 105


they could easily give corvettes and porsches a run for their money.... imagine if you popped one of those engines in a much lighter car ...like a 240 :biggrin:

or an AE86

or how about a 600hp twin turbo 3 rotor in an AE86 :bigthumb:

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


or an AE86

or how about a 600hp twin turbo 3 rotor in an AE86 :bigthumb:

We've seen the video:smile:

Originally posted by Self


We've seen the video:smile:

As have I, bit i think a 600hp 20b belongs in a 7.:bigthumb:

Originally posted by DemonZX
Guess what I voted for!


Ditto on what Demon said. The 300zx is a bad ass car if you have the money to spend. But I'm keeping mine all stock.

Originally posted by Steel
nonono, not the RX-8, but a 4th gen 7. I can't seem to find the pic now:confused: but when i do, i'll post it.

Razor: I think the exhaust note is the coolest out of any cars for the 7 (read- LOUD)

Exactlly ! It makes more noise that it goes ffs. I'f I could any input into I would ban the full stop. sorry guys but that engine has lived well past its expire date.