Heres some pics of my DSM!!

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/EclipseGSX/IMG_0085-2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/EclipseGSX/IMG_0109.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/EclipseGSX/IMG_0087.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/EclipseGSX/IMG_0108.jpg
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Nice car, RECIRCULATE THAT BOV!!! Car looks very clean though.

Lookks pretty good. But does it run worth a shit with the BOV vented?

yo be honest the guy who had it...was a proffessional builder guy who worked with HKS in CALI...and he put all froged HKS internals and stuff and its readdy for 700-800hp and yeah to be honest it runs fine. I have not experienced and problems with it...before I had a DSM 1st gen that would run shiittty without the BOV being recirculated. But this runs fine...Even the wideband says so?

that a/f gauge in your a pillar def does not look like a wideband.
http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=18175&cat=808&page=1

and there is no way that it is running fine without that being recirculated regardless of what pistons you have in there. The only way ti runs fine is your standards of running fine are seriously low cause I know what my 2g and my best buds 2g runs like without the circulation and its not fine.

but other than that nice looking car

I don't care what your HKS guy says, or that you may "think" it runs fine not recirculated, it doesn't. Period. I bet your gas mileage isn't the greatest either.

Also, that ain't a wideband buddy.

:banghead: Thanks to everybody who is trying to make me look liek a fool. I know what a wide band is. That incidently is a autometer a/f guage....for those of you who have no idea..........soo what are you guys saying is that I am losing hp or gettign bad gas milage or is it all of that or what?

:banghead: Thanks to everybody who is trying to make me look liek a fool. I know what a wide band is. That incidently is a autometer a/f guage....for those of you who have no idea..........soo what are you guys saying is that I am losing hp or gettign bad gas milage or is it all of that or what?


So where is the wideband?? Or was it tested on a dyno?

You car will not lose any power because when you are at WOT the bov is closed anyways. Its only in vac are you running rich.

OK a couple things. first and foremost we aren't trying to make you look like a fool. We are trying to help. But when people don't listen to us despite that fact we have a widespread consensus and vast array of DSM knowledge it gets frustrating and hence the somewhat (but entirely reasonable) curt responses.

Second I hope that you aren't mistaking the difference between a wideband a/f gauge and a narrowband. The link i posted in the previous post is to your particular autometer narrowband air/fuel ratio gauge. They do nothing but put on a light show, I know I used to have one and gave it away after I got my wideband.
And finally yes both your performance and gas mileage will suffer with the vented blowoff valve. Simple as that.

Silver I would argue that the performance is affected too because after you shift and vent your engine will struggle instead of maintaining RPMS so when you put it into the next gear the power won't be there (for however brief it may be). Nevertheless some degree of performance will be sacrificed.

http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=2498&sid=3

Peep the link yo:

Notes:
Will work with most factory narrow-band O2 sensors. May require model 2244 in the Accessories Section.
This product has no provision for dial illumination/backlighting.


*pwn withheld*

You need to trust us homeboy, most of us that post on a regular basis have a pretty good idea what we're talking about.

EDIT: Also, either you need to stop lying to us or whoever you bought the car from lied to you and you took the bait like a hungry fish. HKS doesnt make forged internals for our cars. Judging by the fact that your whip still has the factory intake hose, IC pipes, and heat shields, I think you need to be straight with us.

http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=3023

wow HKS doesn't even make pistons and rods for the mitsubishi WOW.
And look how much they want for them RIP OFF

I hate aftermarket taillights what a waste of money, They make anything and everything look cheap.. from s10's to accords, and especially our cars they are ridiculous

ok i dont want to get involved in this but seeing how i am his cousin i feel i must.... when u open the door there is a HKS badge rite on it and the only way a peerson can and will get that is having his car sent to a HKS Factory getting tested or tuned lol and yes they do make HKS internals 4 our car and i will try as hard as i can to find the link

OK a couple things. first and foremost we aren't trying to make you look like a fool. We are trying to help. But when people don't listen to us despite that fact we have a widespread consensus and vast array of DSM knowledge it gets frustrating and hence the somewhat (but entirely reasonable) curt responses.

Second I hope that you aren't mistaking the difference between a wideband a/f gauge and a narrowband. The link i posted in the previous post is to your particular autometer narrowband air/fuel ratio gauge. They do nothing but put on a light show, I know I used to have one and gave it away after I got my wideband.
And finally yes both your performance and gas mileage will suffer with the vented blowoff valve. Simple as that.

Silver I would argue that the performance is affected too because after you shift and vent your engine will struggle instead of maintaining RPMS so when you put it into the next gear the power won't be there (for however brief it may be). Nevertheless some degree of performance will be sacrificed.

Well put Stevie.

While with the HKS bov, you might not experience stalling because of the way the valve is designed, you are most surely running rich during shifts due to the ECU thinking you have the bov recirculated and dumping the right amount of fuel to compensate for it. When you don't give the the right amount of air it thinks it's getting, then you are screwing with performance, and gas mileage.

As for the HKS pistons, unless he used the ones from the JDM Evo 1-3, they do not make them for the USDM E/T/L.

Man you guys are giving this kid a hard time

This is the only thing I could find that hks makes for us other than the cams
http://www.dsmparts.com/customer/product.php?productid=607&cat=138&page=1

How does a vented BOV loose power? YEa it resurculates the lost air but does it mae a differnce if its out in the open? My buddy has the HKS one in his evo and it sounds sweet as hell over the factory one.

Because when you don't recirculate, the motor thinks that it's getting more air than it actually is because the air is metered before the bov, so when you vent and release the air to the atmosphere, the motor is getting less air with the same amount of fuel, so you run rich for a period of time.

How does a vented BOV loose power? YEa it resurculates the lost air but does it mae a differnce if its out in the open? My buddy has the HKS one in his evo and it sounds sweet as hell over the factory one.

Go on any Evo forum. The majority consensus is that if you aren't running a blow through setup with a GM MAF, or using like an AEM stand alone setup with the MAP sensor, the HKS SSQV is the worst bov for the car.

You guys really need to do some research before you make yourselves look like idiots. I'm not trying to bash you or anything - just trying to help. But, you aren't listening and trying to fight the whole way.

Regaurdless I know what the difference is between wideband and a/f guage.It was tuned......and they said it is runnign the way it is suppose to be. I am not arguing with anyone!I dont know until I get the car on the road....it is winter and I am waitign for it to melt...then I will know forsure.....if it is running good and my buddies own a shop here and they have a set of hks pistons for a 4g63 in the window.

All I will say is the car looks very clean, though I don't care for the taillights. But the car does look nice.

Wow... I don't even know what to say about this thread now...

These threads are the reason I still leark around here. It ain't no thing if he wants to vent, the ecu will figure it out, he will just be running rich durring shifts and slightly after..

Better to run a little rich than a little lean IMO anyways... I ran mine vented before and didn't have any issues with it... As for the car being built by HKS. How about some proof to back it up rather than just saying it? I don't want to get into a pissing match, but I don't want somebody running around here lying either.

Shady and poorly constructed sentences, with horrible grammar. Annoying.

far from 700HP ready lol

far from 700HP ready lol
MORE LIKE 650 but we will round up.

Out of all the forums I go to this one takes the cake for the most pricks, hands down. Oh and if you are jst going to pay atention to the gramar off these sentences (purposly wrote this sentence shitty)then go to www.grammerforums.com (http://www.grammerforums.com)? Like we are talking agout DSM's not sesame street.

dude the link doesn't work

Yes, you probably got a little bit more shit than you should have, but you know what? A lot of it was brought on by yourself. I know for sure I got real sick real quick of all of the common sense questions you posed and in the wrong subforums besides... I doubt I am the only one.

I dont care how it sounds when its running or whether you, your friend, a reputable shop, or the owner of HKS himself put that BOV on your car, they did not do it right. Period. As popular as HKS is, if they had pistons and rods available for our cars they would be remotely trackdownable, and if you really did get a tune from them, you would have to have a tuning device... which I see none and have heard nothing about in any of your posts.

We arent grammar nazis but there is no reason to not exhibit atleast a fifth grade level of English (unless of course English isnt your native language).

What makes all of this worse is the fact that despite clear and succinct evidence that you were either lied to or lied to us on several accounts you still went on about it. Proving you wrong does not qualify us as a "bunch of pricks," but the excessive flaming that went on does (I'll get to that later). My advice for you: realize you do not know everything and keep an open mind. I know that wording sounds cockish, but its true... everyone is wrong from time to time, particularly when you just start out.

Now, things like this thread have got to stop. I've had it mentioned to me by other mods, our "mob mentality" or whatever. I've noticed a lot of useless and flaming posts lately and when Brian and I reorganize here pretty soon we will crack down on unnecessary flaming.