Back Quarterpanel

ok yesterday i was pulling out of walmart and this lady backed into my 97 Eclipse GST and hit me in the driver's side rear panel and was wondering what this means. I have talked to a few people and they think that it will be totaled because that panel is part of the door jam. What do you guys think?

Depends on how bad the dent is and where exactly it is. If it messed up the door jam then it will be a more expensive fix. May be totalled I guess. If its just on the back fender then you should be fine.

Pictures?

If there is no structural damage I don't see how it can be considered totaled. But I don't know how all that works.

Vanilla, I think they "total" it when the cost of repair is more than the appraised value of the car. For example, pretty sure that if you have a say $5000 car and you get the windows smashed, every panel keyed to hell, and all tires slit, even though the body may be straight except the scratches and it can run fine, if the total dollar value of the damage is over 5 grand, your shit gets totalled.

It will most likely be totaled, depending on the size of it, but when you say backed into, I see a whole crunched panel. The quarter panel is not a bolt on part, they have to cut the spot welds and all that jazz, line up the new one, weld on the new one, and then paint it.

Pictures would help alot.

I haven't been able to take any pictures of it yet sorry guys. I paid $4500 for the car, there is no structural damage at all, its just the quarterpanel thats crunched. The reason I say it may be totaled is from what one of them said above. It didn't hit anything but the fender but the fender is part of the door jam and so lining that up could cost a lot of money.

As long as none of the door jam isint bent you should be fine. How hard could you have been hit, it was parking lot. The rear fender is not a removable part with out cutting and welding a new piece in. Hopefully the dent isin't to bad and can just be pulled out and fixed with a little body filler. I highly doubt the car is totalled.

Quarterpanels rarely have any strength to the actual panel though, even a small accident can cause a huge dent. And it's not structural damage that will run up the cost, it's the time it takes to remove and replace the panel, plus color matching it. Most shops will just replace the entire panel if it's anything bigger than a baseball size dent, otherwise it gets too hard to pull and fill them. It seems like it wouldn't be too hard, but when you get into the dirty work, pulling quarterpanels is a bitch, I've done a few and I'd rather not have to ever do it again.

I'll try and take some pictures today and I should find out later tonight how much the insurance company is going to give me for it. I'm going to be pissed if they total it because I just bought the car a little over a month ago.

If/When we get it fixed we will most likely get the whole car repainted since the paint is fading on the spoiler and hatch area.

It's a good size dent in the panel. I was hit by a 2006ish Mazda CX-7 which is much like a small SUV/Minivan/crossover, whatever you want to call it. The dent isnt deep but its really big. If you look at a 2g Eclipse, the dent takes up almost all the fender between the door and the tire well. It barely missed the door and small window.

If it's that big and it's deep, the quarter will definitely need to be replaced. Pictures would help though.

Totalling is when repairs to make the car how it was new cost more than 70% or what the car is valued at

Sorry the pics are so big**

Hey i got pics of the back fender and i added a couple of pics of the engine and interior.

DVD player has been changed since the interior pic was taken.
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1g crushed BOV:
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Engine bay needs to be cleaned...cant wait to get a new intake on it.
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What do you guys think? Totalled or maybe not? I only paid $4500 for the car.

Thats pretty bad. I wouldn't think its totaled though. It may cost a good bit to get fixed, but not 4k worth. I would take it to a shop and see what they say. get an estimate.

That's what im gonna do tomorrow...The claim adjuster is supposed to come within the next week and im making sure that the prick isnt going to low ball us. It's taken the insurance guy almost 2 weeks just to come out and look at it.

If they do total it out, just by it back from the insurance company and have it fixed. They may total it because of some stupid figures, but you can always find a shop that will fix it for cheaper. That's a pretty nasty dent though. Definitely will need a new quarter for sure, there is NO salvaging that bad boy.

I didnt expect it to be salvageable...got a question tho...once they take off that panel and put another one on...rather than getting it paint matched and what not how much would it cost for a nice gloss black red or black paint job?

Depends on how "good" you want it. If you want all the door jams painted and under the hood and all that, it will be very expensive.

like in what kind of range?

I got a $300 job w/o the jams. Biggest mistake ever, a good ob will not run you less than about $1500, and thats on the low side.

I got a $300 job w/o the jams. Biggest mistake ever.

LMAO

Yea probably over 2k. I really have no idea, it will depend on what shop you get to do it. I dont know how you could get rid of the silver, these cars just look to damn good in this color.

LMAO

Yea probably over 2k. I really have no idea, it will depend on what shop you get to do it. I dont know how you could get rid of the silver, these cars just look to damn good in this color.

Bite me, LOL. Not saying anything bad about silver cars, but e there's too many of them. Not too many white ones though. My nect paint wil be yellow or orange. Beat that buys!!:grinyes:

Dude paint it green like the F&F!! That would be tight yo

Remember that the green eclipse had a 420a in it.

I want original colors, something bright to stand out of the crowd. I was wondering what engine was in the F&F, gst I'm guessing? Do you know the specs for it?

My next paint job. Which color rims are better?

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q278/josealejo05/Nissan-Silvia-S15-1024.jpg

Lime green stands out :dunno:

The eclipse had a turbo 420a in it. I think it was turbo

Sorry to steal your thread darrick but yeah that is a fixable problem with a new quarter.

Its all good. I do love the silver color but the paint is fading terribly on the hatch and spoiler so either way i may have to get it all painted

For a good paintjob you should do the engine bay also. But just the door/hatch jams and if you have a sunroof they'll need to do that too. You'd probably want all the dents taken out with a new paintjob. You'll be looking at probably at least $4k for a good paintjob.

Why in the hell would they run a 420a on that car? thats dumb.

For a good paintjob you should do the engine bay also. But just the door/hatch jams and if you have a sunroof they'll need to do that too. You'd probably want all the dents taken out with a new paintjob. You'll be looking at probably at least $4k for a good paintjob.

Thats aarm a leg and a couple fingers from the other had! I think anything over $2600 or $2700 is too much. I got a quote from a pro and hes said $2000 with stripping the car down (lights, glass, jambs, hatch, sunroof, etc.) I thought that was fair.

Why in the hell would they run a 420a on that car? thats dumb.

I dont know. Cause it was someones car they just used in the movie. They wanted a riced out car and most of them happen to be 420a's

Well I guess a big factor is are you paying for the materials at a different time, or is the shop paying for them and tacking it onto the bill? What he quoted you was probably just labor without materials.

I guess my paint job can wait a couple of months then haha...

Well I guess a big factor is are you paying for the materials at a different time, or is the shop paying for them and tacking it onto the bill? What he quoted you was probably just labor without materials.

yeah it was the total, some type of expensive red paint included:grinyes:

Try this Darrick. http://www.wheelfire.com/ccontent/TechWheel.cfm#Offset

Lime green stands out :dunno:

The eclipse had a turbo 420a in it. I think it was turbo

We'll if you pause the movie when they have the hood popped and look closely....
You will see the 420a, with like a black CAI with a NOS sticker on the intake pipe.....you will also only get to see the top of the header, which is cleary a N/A header.

So basically the car in the movie was a N/A RS/GS. But of course they use recordings from the exhaust and BOV of some other kind of car and used that to make it seem like the clipse was turbo.....

haha thats so dumb...

We'll if you pause the movie when they have the hood popped and look closely....
You will see the 420a, with like a black CAI with a NOS sticker on the intake pipe.....you will also only get to see the top of the header, which is cleary a N/A header.

So basically the car in the movie was a N/A RS/GS. But of course they use recordings from the exhaust and BOV of some other kind of car and used that to make it seem like the clipse was turbo.....

Damn vanilla beat me to it. Remember I took a screen shot and posted it up here. N/T header and a HUGE NOS sticker on the CAI. Got to love it. Everything about that movie is wrong... like the stand-alone engine management system... good way to spend 10 grand. lol. What a load.

yeah it was the total, some type of expensive red paint included:grinyes:

Well you got a hell of a deal then, because it should definitely be way more than $2000, especially with all the materials and red paint.

Well you got a hell of a deal then, because it should definitely be way more than $2000, especially with all the materials and red paint.
I thought it was a steal, SON OF A BITCH, why did I go with a $300 paint job then?:banghead:

We'll if you pause the movie when they have the hood popped and look closely....
You will see the 420a, with like a black CAI with a NOS sticker on the intake pipe.....you will also only get to see the top of the header, which is cleary a N/A header.

So basically the car in the movie was a N/A RS/GS. But of course they use recordings from the exhaust and BOV of some other kind of car and used that to make it seem like the clipse was turbo.....
Thanks for ruining the whole F&F franchise nilla.

Went and got an estimate today on how much itll cost to fix the panel..$1500 including labor and paint matching...i thought it would be a lil more than that.

Is that to fix the panel, or to replace it? You don't want that panel fixed, you want it replaced. That panel will have no structural strength left if they just fix the damaged one.

I don't see how they would find reason to total the car based on the pictures. I work for an auto body shop. Damage like this is the reason why we are in buisness... If they went around totalling cars for damage like that, I would be in the un-employment line. But basically here's what a shops going to be paid to do:

You have to cut and weld in a new quater panel.. someone stated that already in this thread... Now the down side to doing that is, you have to remove the rear bumper, tail light, most of the rear interior (minus the seats)... all this shit will have to be re-installed.. which is where the labor prices start to roll in (time consumption)...Thankfully with the hatch trunk, removal of the rear glass isn't involved (this my friend is expensive labor).. now once the new panel is welded on, you have to grind the weld, apply filler to the grinded areas, sand, and get it ready to paint. The downside with painting a quater panel on an eclipse is we don't have a breaking line between the quater panel and the roof (some cars have rubber moldings that seperate the roof and the panel). Since we don't have that, the "RIGHT" way to paint your car is paint the quater panel, the roof, and the panel on the other side of the car. Your also suppose to blend into the rear bumper as well... Like I stated, this is the "RIGHT" way to do it... alot of it comes down to your Insurance company and how anal they want to be. I mean lets be serious here... this is an eclipse, not a 7seris BMW... if it was me, i would just say fuck it and blend up to the roof and try to paint match the best way I can.

The body shop will write there own estimate, and the insurace appraiser will write his/hers.. from there they will come up with a price, and there you have it... But again, it depends on how anal your insurance company wants to be.. If they take into fact your age, your driving record, the age of the car, the cost of the repair.. all of that shit, and see that it will be to there benefit in the long run to just total the car, cut you a check for the lowest amount possible and send you on your way... then they can do that as well.

I don't see how they would find reason to total the car based on the pictures. I work for an auto body shop. Damage like this is the reason why we are in buisness... If they went around totalling cars for damage like that, I would be in the un-employment line. But basically here's what a shops going to be paid to do:

You have to cut and weld in a new quater panel.. someone stated that already in this thread... Now the down side to doing that is, you have to remove the rear bumper, tail light, most of the rear interior (minus the seats)... all this shit will have to be re-installed.. which is where the labor prices start to roll in (time consumption)...Thankfully with the hatch trunk, removal of the rear glass isn't involved (this my friend is expensive labor).. now once the new panel is welded on, you have to grind the weld, apply filler to the grinded areas, sand, and get it ready to paint. The downside with painting a quater panel on an eclipse is we don't have a breaking line between the quater panel and the roof (some cars have rubber moldings that seperate the roof and the panel). Since we don't have that, the "RIGHT" way to paint your car is paint the quater panel, the roof, and the panel on the other side of the car. Your also suppose to blend into the rear bumper as well... Like I stated, this is the "RIGHT" way to do it... alot of it comes down to your Insurance company and how anal they want to be. I mean lets be serious here... this is an eclipse, not a 7seris BMW... if it was me, i would just say fuck it and blend up to the roof and try to paint match the best way I can.

The body shop will write there own estimate, and the insurace appraiser will write his/hers.. from there they will come up with a price, and there you have it... But again, it depends on how anal your insurance company wants to be.. If they take into fact your age, your driving record, the age of the car, the cost of the repair.. all of that shit, and see that it will be to there benefit in the long run to just total the car, cut you a check for the lowest amount possible and send you on your way... then they can do that as well.

They did say that they would replace the panel, but the only thing he said that they would blend in paint wise was into the door...The body shop that i went to was a different body shop than i plan on actually going to to get it fixed.(I live closer to the other body shop, i just didnt have time to drive all the way over to the good one. I just wanted a rough estimate on the cost.) The body shop that im gonna go to, i know will do it right and if they dont they guaruntee my satisfaction. If i say that i dont think it looks right they'll go back and fix it no questions asked. I havent used them before but i know quite a few people who have and they have been very happy with the results.

The downside with painting a quater panel on an eclipse is we don't have a breaking line between the quater panel and the roof (some cars have rubber moldings that seperate the roof and the panel). Since we don't have that, the "RIGHT" way to paint your car is paint the quater panel, the roof, and the panel on the other side of the car. Your also suppose to blend into the rear bumper as well...

The break is between the quarter and the hatch. The quarter doesn't directly contact the roof, it ends at the hatch and the hatch is what is "connected" to the roof.