I hate my job and I leave work everyday pissed off and today I needed some race therapy. So I'm on my way home and as I turn onto hall road (in michigan, 4 lanes each side. Nice spot) and head for the turn around there is a jetta tailing me. Now I roll down my windows to listen for anything and find either he has aftermarket exhaust or just the muffler. Either way it sounded good. We are the first two in line out of the turn around and settle next to one another at the red light. He looks at me and smiles and revs a little. I do the same. My buddy has a vr6 and I have took him after first gear. Light turns green I get a good launch only spining a little and so does he. His exhaust sounded good. Take it through first, perfect into second, nicely into third, but after I hit 70 I shut down and was a good 2 cars if not more in front of him. He drove by gave thumbs up and drove off. Yay my first kill to report.

Cliffnotes
95 tsi vs jetta vr6
Tsi up to or more cars by 70
Got thumbs up

Sorry it was so long for so little. Just excited to have a kill post.

Nice race. Do you have any mods on your talon?

No not yet. Gonna stay stock and have some work done over the winter. Figured I have 1200 saved up right now and ill get a lot back on taxes, might as we'll wait and get everything done at once. I'm leaning towards intake, exhaust, and maybe a bigger turbo along with a few other small things. Before that though I'm getting a rebuild kit and rebuilding the motor. And I'm gonna replace the crankshafts to get away from crankwalk.

sounds like a good old fashion street race with no ricer mentality involved...now thats what i'm talkin about :)

I have been around american muscle my whole life. I'm new to the scene of imports and tuners. I can tell you what though, there are a lot of hondas around here that think they are the shit. Now don't get me wrong, I like honda. They put out great cars and when done up right would kick my ass. S2k, nsx, I love them, and when civics and crx are done right they fly. I just don't like it when a punk with a fart can and an oversized wing pulls up revs it to 8000 rpm and then can't back it up. It makes me laugh but hey atleast they try.

eh, you'll see that with domestics too.

ex. v6 mustangs

nice kill man,, and talons take really well to mods. that should be a fun/cost-efective car to work with.

eh, you'll see that with domestics too.

ex. v6 mustangs

:lol: yeah for some reason I tend to see more 3.8 stangs openin up the throttle or tryin to race than GT's. i guess they feel like they have somthin to prove.

nice kill man,, and talons take really well to mods. that should be a fun/cost-efective car to work with.



:lol: yeah for some reason I tend to see more 3.8 stangs openin up the throttle or tryin to race than GT's. i guess they feel like they have somthin to prove.


Maybe they are just jealous of big brother...Actually theres a V6 Mustang around my school *dont know if they actually attend but hes always driving by* it sounds supercharged. and from what ive seen. it can scoot.

Maybe they are just jealous of big brother...Actually theres a V6 Mustang around my school *dont know if they actually attend but hes always driving by* it sounds supercharged. and from what ive seen. it can scoot.

I may be wrong so don't quote me here, but I've read somewhere that Shelby made a really nice supercharged V6 mustang. I mean, this thing can move, I think it was upwards of 300 horses? Not bad for a V6.

dont pay for a new shelby mustang.

those new gt500's are going for around 60k, even though they are slower then a c6 and dont handle anything special.

If you are gonna supercharge something, do it to the 4.6.

I have seen supercharged v6 mustangs and they are pretty damn quick. But I would stay with the 4.6. I agree that the new shelby cobra isn't all that. Now I'm a ford guy and I can say that. I was impressed with the horsepower but getting it to the ground seems to be a problem lookin at the the 0-60 times. I say stick with an 03 cobra and you will do much better. My dad has one and I have never been in anything faster. He has a lot of work done but the gt500 has nothin on it. Kind of off the thread but ok.

dont pay for a new shelby mustang.

those new gt500's are going for around 60k, even though they are slower then a c6 and dont handle anything special.

If you are gonna supercharge something, do it to the 4.6.

i thought the gt500's were priced in the mid to low $40k's just like the new vettes (non z06's). either way tho the c6's are superior in performance to the gt500, and there's no replacement for displacement (6.2 LS3 > 5.4 POS)

^I've been in more than my fair share of situations that proove otherwise. Most recently, when I was working at the BMW dealership.

335i coupe vs 2004 Mustang.

3.0L vs 4.6L.

There was a whole hell of a lot of replacement when we were about six or seven cars up and still pulling.

:1:

While agree with the fact that the C6 is a better performer than the Shelby, there can be replacements for displacement. Last time I recalled, the little itty bitty 2JZ-GTE Supra has held the record for the fastest 6 speed in the 1/4. Not even the V10 8.3L Viper nor Vettes with their entire drag setup, turbos or superchargers, spraying or not could take the record down. This was last time I checked, it may have changed but I do not recall hearing that it was ever broken.

Now I don't want to get flamed but I have a few questions. 2004 mustang gt vs bmw 335i. I would already know who the winner is since has the turbo putting out 300 hp. 0-60 in the 5-5.5 range depending on manual ot auto. Very nice if I say so myself. Now all that said and done, if your looking for power why wouldn't you pick up a gt for 20k and then you could put another 20k and then just be at the price of the 335i but be far ahead in the race. Six cars is a huge lead too. How fast were you guys going. Flame suit on! Just wondering.

i thought the gt500's were priced in the mid to low $40k's just like the new vettes (non z06's). either way tho the c6's are superior in performance to the gt500, and there's no replacement for displacement (6.2 LS3 > 5.4 POS)


two words good sir, dealer markup.




While agree with the fact that the C6 is a better performer than the Shelby, there can be replacements for displacement. Last time I recalled, the little itty bitty 2JZ-GTE Supra has held the record for the fastest 6 speed in the 1/4. Not even the V10 8.3L Viper nor Vettes with their entire drag setup, turbos or superchargers, spraying or not could take the record down. This was last time I checked, it may have changed but I do not recall hearing that it was ever broken.

I'm not sure, but i think this is the fastest 6 speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_51lF-RnY

It could be now. I know it has been a battle between the Supra and Viper for some time now. I was just stating the fact that it is impressive for a small motor like that to compete with a 500+ ci motor.

It could be now. I know it has been a battle between the Supra and Viper for some time now. I was just stating the fact that it is impressive for a small motor like that to compete with a 500+ ci motor.
:iagree:

Give it a few more months and Woon will be back on top. Then the Viper. Then Woon, then the Viper then Woon again. Before you know it, we'll have a two second six speed Supra and a two second six speed viper.

However, it is impressive that for a long time, the fastest was that little ol' 2JZ

^I've been in more than my fair share of situations that proove otherwise. Most recently, when I was working at the BMW dealership.

335i coupe vs 2004 Mustang.

3.0L vs 4.6L.

There was a whole hell of a lot of replacement when we were about six or seven cars up and still pulling.

:1:

While agree with the fact that the C6 is a better performer than the Shelby, there can be replacements for displacement. Last time I recalled, the little itty bitty 2JZ-GTE Supra has held the record for the fastest 6 speed in the 1/4. Not even the V10 8.3L Viper nor Vettes with their entire drag setup, turbos or superchargers, spraying or not could take the record down. This was last time I checked, it may have changed but I do not recall hearing that it was ever broken.

do you know how many PSI the supra was running? i'm gonna assume it was more than any of the vettes/vipers were putting out. an N/A 3.0-engined vehicle will generally lose vs a 4.6 N/A vehicle, and if the supra and viper had matching #'s for lbs per square inch then i'm sure the viper would win as well.

There is no replacement for displacement.

Except for turbos, tuning, and technology. Tee cubed baby.

^^Yep, and its not just how much boost you run. For the Vipers, it is not as easy as saying, we are going to turn up the boost and be faster. So much more into it that I don't really care to explain at the moment. Google it though.

^^Yep, and its not just how much boost you run. For the Vipers, it is not as easy as saying, we are going to turn up the boost and be faster. So much more into it that I don't really care to explain at the moment. Google it though.

sorry i didn't realize you don't have time to pour out your vast expanse of knowledge to enlighten us all. :disappoin

^Hahahahahahahahahaha......

Sorry if it came off as though I pretended like I knew it all. I had a lot of errans to run, I had to pick up my brother's boat, drive it to my parent's house in a completely different town, take to econ quizzes, etc. I just figured it would be more clearly explained if you read it in an article that was though up with some time and put online rather than me spelling it all out in the few moments I had.

:rolleyes:

:rofl: :p

lol aight it's str8 man,, i mis-read the post. that's the only thing that sucks about forums/instant messaging; it's easy to take things out of context

indeed it is. so whats the fastest 6 speed as far as top speed? sorry for the hijack

I think its the Viper. Not sure the guys name, but he's outa Vegas, and I think it was a 7.98, TT at 1500rwhpish.

The fastest Woon time I've seen is the 8.86, not sure if he's gone faster than that.

I think its the Viper. Not sure the guys name, but he's outa Vegas, and I think it was a 7.98, TT at 1500rwhpish.

The fastest Woon time I've seen is the 8.86, not sure if he's gone faster than that.

Viper is Garth Weaver's, though he doesn't actually race it(Which is a WHOLE 'nother can of worms that Ryan and other Supra guys called him out on some time ago,lol)

And a slight correction on the time....Woon's best to date is 8.62 in the 1/4. I believe it was at SILV...but don't quote me on that.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABTRXWcttLc

I think its the Viper. Not sure the guys name, but he's outa Vegas, and I think it was a 7.98, TT at 1500rwhpish.

The fastest Woon time I've seen is the 8.86, not sure if he's gone faster than that.

are we talking about the fastest street legal car? b/c I saw a TT mustang (99-04 body style) run a 7.6 1/4 in person,, but I don't think it was street legal.

We are talking about six speed shifted cars that can be (don't mean they are) driven on the street, like the Viper and Woon's Supra being mentioned.

ANORXIC, thanks for the update on the number. I just did a quick google search, knew he was in the 8's and grabbed the first eight second time I saw, lol. And I really need to be a memeber of the Supra and Viper forums out there. I always miss the good stuff, like the Woon/Saad situation ($10,000 race), the one you are mentioning, and all the other ones you here about.

Any idea what the story was behind Woon v. Weaver? Or a link I can read? I need time to kill at work, LOL!

You GOTTA join man...at least SF, because most of the crap from ViperAlley eeventually finds its way there since Peter Blach jumps back and forth between MKIV's and Vipers.

Here's some good reading for ya ;-)
Garth's call out to WOTM(Ryan Woon or Cody Phillips, whoever'd take it)
http://http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405708&highlight=WOTM+call

WOTM's response thread
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405825&highlight=WOTM+call

Fun times :-)

edit: You Have to register to see the threads since they are locked.

Is it still in that stage where you have to be invited to join?

EDIT: Or I could just try myself, lol.