i have a chevy truck w/a 454. when it was stock the imports wanted to race . isn't it fun to make an import driver waste his nos against a stock engine? never been beat by an import and with all the mods now never will.

lol, you will, adventually

Most just arnt real racers, same way most people with trucks with stock motors arnt...but youve done mods, and sometime an import will upshow you.

Good hunting eather way

moved to Street Racing forum

Yeah, I'll agree, you won't get beat by a ricer. However; you could very well have your ass handed to you by an import. Don't ever be so arrogant and sure of yourself, it will only make you look like an ass when you lose.

Originally posted by sikilla
i have a chevy truck w/a 454. when it was stock the imports wanted to race . isn't it fun to make an import driver waste his nos against a stock engine? never been beat by an import and with all the mods now never will.


Uh huh, and what have you done to your Truck?

Mods on your 454. Ok, what did you modifiy? Mr. Man.

... I dont see anything listed...

... I dont see any track times...

Enlighten us please. Tell us how bad ass your Truck is.

Oh yeah, the whole "imports suck" thing.. it got old. Just accept it.

one more time for the arrogent

there are PLENTY of so called "rice burners'' which the intelligent call IMPORTS that can kick a 454 w/mods and could rip the doors off ur 74 POS truck

so dont hate the things that you dont know...there are plenty of supras/celicas/civics/s2000s that could kick ur ass

oh sorry i forgot to add

if your calling all imports rice burners

id like to see you face up with what we in the car world call a ferrari enzo or a ferrari 575M or 550 Barchetta or a diablo or a murcielago

cuz technically they are imports too ...if you dont live in italy which im sure you dont

so when the day comes that a "looking for laughs" ferrari driver in his 575 or a lambo driver in his diablo wants to race ur 454 w/mods

lemme know who smokes wo

Yep. A 454SS Chevy Truck is a stout performer, no doubt about that. But there's these big bricks called Skylines that chomp Vipers for lunch (when tuned properly). Not to mention 3000GT turbos, TT Supras and TT 300ZX's, Turbo FD3S RX-7's, Acura NSX's, well-tuned SR20DET transplant 240SX's, the list goes on for quite some time. Each car is different. Each owner is different. And there's always a faster car.

And you mustn't forget the all powerful god of sub 2.0L pushrod performance..... THE MGB GT!:angel:

Originally posted by Octagon
Yep. A 454SS Chevy Truck is a stout performer, no doubt about that. But there's these big bricks called Skylines that chomp Vipers for lunch (when tuned properly). Not to mention 3000GT turbos, TT Supras and TT 300ZX's, Turbo FD3S RX-7's, Acura NSX's, well-tuned SR20DET transplant 240SX's, the list goes on for quite some time. Each car is different. Each owner is different. And there's always a faster car.

And you mustn't forget the all powerful god of sub 2.0L pushrod performance..... THE MGB GT!:angel:

Yes but unfortunately the odds of him racing a skyline are very slim, but I would love to hear his explanation why the skyline was shifting to third before he got to second.

But for the starter of this post, you sir are an idiot. I hate the average civic with the fart can as much as you, but when you classify all imports as crap that just shows your knowledge. I have a friend who's Supra dynos at over 812rwhp without nitrous, and my neighbors fd rx-7 dynos at about 550rwhp. These cars are commonplaces in the serious import world. So while I have no doubt that you can totally trounce on a 90 civic hatchback, you would get eaten alive by a true import sports car.

I keep hearing so much about this damn 454 truck. I've seen pics of them aren't they some kind of 80's boxy style Silverado or something?

What is this thing I mean is it producing the same 450 hp that the Chevelle produced with its 454?

I was about to unleash a bunch of verbal epithets at this guy, but you guys already beat me to it. It wouldn't take much more than an RX-7 or 300ZX TT to hand your ass to you on a silver platter, as a lot of the posters have already stated.

Devil: HAHAHA no its not a Silverado 454SS, nor does he have a LS6 454 from a 70 SS454 Chevelle.

Silverado 454SS, those were made in like 90-93 i think. They didnt sell very well cause the 454 was stock, had a 4:10 gear ratio with a TH400 tranny meaning it got really bad milege (no overdrive). Like 10 city 12 highway. But they have potential.


ANYWHO what our friend here has is a 70's Chevy Silverado. Probably a 3/4 ton Truck with a tired old 454.

Unless he's rebuilt his, and swapped intakes, swapped cams, swapped heads, swapped carbs... then he isnt making much more than 280hp From a late 70s 454.

I hate it when people say MODs, did you personally sit there and MODify your intake so it flows better? No you swapped it for anutter!:rolleyes:

I'd just like to say, a truck that weighs 4000 lbs and makes 600hp still hauls ass...

IF it had 600 horsepower it might, too bad it weights 2 tons and has less than half the horsepower of most the supras out there...

Damn 4.10's standard thats pretty badass. Figures it doesn't have the pep of a true 454, its an engine from the 80's-early 90's afterall. No engine seemed to be very powerful by itself around that time.

I like potatoes.

I like potatoes.

yea.. me too.. mmm

Aahhhhh Huh. :rolleyes:

BTW Crazy, most Supras make about 200hp...

+1 for the enlightened -1 for the ignorant

that guy got himself a new butthole to poop out of

either way i think a supra will hand his ass to him on a silver plater

One thing everyone may have missed is he/she has only posted 4 times. One would think this particular individual has nothing better to do than to stir shit.

It is too bad he/she will probably never come back to even reply. I would however love to give this person a go. Being the sporting man I am I would even give him/her a decent head start. 1/4 mile, 1 mile, rolling not fussed.



But there's these big bricks called Skylines that chomp Vipers for lunch (when tuned properly).
Brick? Interesting annalogy :p Yea I have had my fair share of fun with V8 owners. I do have a soft spot for them :smoker2:

OK

My friend had a 79' Silverado stepside with a fiberglass rear(fenders & bed). He had a 454 cui. engine no mods just pipes staight out the back, and i smoked him on many occasions. So, this guy has been racing the typical 16 yr. old in a civic w/ 1 or 2 mods. And now he thinks he's John Force. Bring It! :flipa:

Originally posted by Polygon
Yeah, I'll agree, you won't get beat by a ricer. However; you could very well have your ass handed to you by an import. Don't ever be so arrogant and sure of yourself, it will only make you look like an ass when you lose.
:eek2: ...........polygon did you just stand up for imports........I'm touched........I don't know what to say......... :eek:

Originally posted by sikilla
never been beat by an import and with all the mods now never will.
money talks and pink slips walk......... now where do you live?:devil:

I think what we have here is a troll... As Razortgtst commented, only 4 posts... Also, his name is sikilla, which I assume to mean SI(as in honda) KILLA(as in, something someone who drives a 454 chevy truck would NEVER type).

Not to mention he mentioned his "mods" which I have never heard anyone truck related say... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by DblOvrhedCamron

:eek2: ...........polygon did you just stand up for imports........I'm touched........I don't know what to say......... :eek:

LOL, thats right. There are plenty of imports that I love, I am just not a fan of Honda, I guess sometimes I am just too anti-honda it makes me seem like an import hater, but I really do like imports and will have quite a few if I have the money. :D

Originally posted by Polygon


I am just not a fan of Honda, I guess sometimes I am just too anti-honda

Forget all that help I gave ya in finding a new car:finger:!






















:p

I'm thinking that a truck hauling what i think you'd be hauling with a 454, you'd have a hell of a time doing any good against a true imported performance car like a Skyline or a 300ZX.

Your ass end has no weight, you'd sit and spin your tires while he's rocketing from 1st to 2nd, you'd be shifting into second when he's 1/2 way through 4th and on and on and on.

Don't claim success too early, but also don't pick fights you can't win. I've never lost to an import, but i also won't race one that's out of my league. Pick your races smart, and enjoy the ride!

:cool:

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Forget all that help I gave ya in finding a new car:finger:!






















:p

:hehe:

Originally posted by Polygon


LOL, thats right. There are plenty of imports that I love, I am just not a fan of Honda, I guess sometimes I am just too anti-honda it makes me seem like an import hater, but I really do like imports and will have quite a few if I have the money. :D
what has made you into this honda-hater? Lets go back to your childhood shall we? lol seriously dude did your parents weld a honda symbol to a club and beat you with it when you were bad, jeez lol. J/P


:D

Originally posted by DblOvrhedCamron

what has made you into this honda-hater? Lets go back to your childhood shall we? lol seriously dude did your parents weld a honda symbol to a club and beat you with it when you were bad, jeez lol. J/P


:D

Actually, mine did! Thank you for dredging up that painful memory! :uhoh:

I'll tell you what has jaded me on hondas... the fast and the furious, and the rice epidemic which has struck the west coast... :mad:

Originally posted by Cbass


Actually, mine did! Thank you for dredging up that painful memory! :uhoh:

I'll tell you what has jaded me on hondas... the fast and the furious, and the rice epidemic which has struck the west coast... :mad:

Bada bling bling, exactly.

Well I think that bothers 99.8% of all people that are on this site. The other .2% are the ones that "joined the movement" because of it. And, guys if your gonna blame Honda go ahead and blame Nissan, Toyota, and Mitsubishi too.

To those who were influenced by Fast and the Furious to buy a Honda makes me wonder why. The only Honda's in the movie didn't really do much, that red Integra got its ass kicked, and the Civics with the green neons, all they did was drive those around to steal shit from trucks.

That and Eclipse's. Lots of those style Eclipse's where I live, which again, lost in the movie. Why not a sudden movement to buy Rx-7s and Supras?

Because most of the people can't afford those cars. I know that i was (and still am) an import enthusiast, before the FAF, but that movie did stir up a lot of people in washington. i kno now when i drive down hwy 99, i'll see atleast 5 within 15 minutes. most are civics w/ fart-cans, and with little knowledge of cars. I know i'd buy a supra or rx-7 (rotary owns inline anyday), but i can't afford them. I really don't think the FAF had too bad of an impact on the import scene tho. there were ricers' before the movie, and there probably always will be.

-Peace

Yeah, there were a few ricers around before the movie, but nothing like there is now...

Anyhow, the Honda civic is the most commonly riced car, probably because it is the most easily identified with import racing... It's the same with hotrods and the 32 Ford. There are countless hotrods out there, but say the word "hotrod", and you'll get a mental image of a 32 Ford roadster with the fenders ripped off.

DemonZX, I think your numbers are a little off... try lurking in the honda forum for a while , you'll revise those figures ;)

I can't imagine those older boxier style RX-7's being that much more expensive then a 93 Civic so why not try and find one of those. Not to mention those 80's Supra's as well. They couldn't be that expensive because they weren't that great of cars but they were probably a little faster then your average Civic.

Originally posted by DeViL
I can't imagine those older boxier style RX-7's being that much more expensive then a 93 Civic so why not try and find one of those. Not to mention those 80's Supra's as well. They couldn't be that expensive because they weren't that great of cars but they were probably a little faster then your average Civic.


heh..my 14 year old bmw can kill lotsa civics and integras that aren't harsh modded up wif like an engine swap and like turbo and shit like that. jsut like Exhaust and intake and maybe a cheap turbo..I'm REALLY proud of that. heh. just to think what I can do when I get enough money to add exhaust, intake and do N/A tuning(no forced air going into my baby's engine..heh)

and I got my car for $4500 canadian.

Originally posted by Cbass


Actually, mine did! Thank you for dredging up that painful memory! :uhoh:

I'll tell you what has jaded me on hondas... the fast and the furious, and the rice epidemic which has struck the west coast... :mad:
most of those cars were eclipse's and nissan type's I saw few honda's in that movie in comparison to the other cars...... also the gaudy red and yellow integra edmund was driving oh my god was that thing hideous.......

ruined such a beautiful car.......:(

Originally posted by DeViL
and the Civics with the green neons, all they did was drive those around to steal shit from trucks.


damn it forgot about those.

Originally posted by DemonZX
Well I think that bothers 99.8% of all people that are on this site. The other .2% are the ones that "joined the movement" because of it. And, guys if your gonna blame Honda go ahead and blame Nissan, Toyota, and Mitsubishi too.
I got my car like "when did that come out?" anyway like a year or 2 before that movie even headlined.......... and before that I had a 94 integra....... hell I didint even know there was a movement then again I live in PA. :D

"oh yeah there's a movement...There is a movement!":hehe: :buck :cwn27:

It's just that after that movie, every punkass kid in town got a civic and started ricing it up... :(

Devil, the Supra/RX7 were the top offerings from Japan in the 80s, and are nothing to sneeze at. Turbo versions of both can be easily modified to run surprising quick times.

A first generation RX7(FB) only weighs about 2300lbs, and they have a very wide engine bay. In fact, since the RX7 and the Fox body platform are so closely related, and in fact designed by the same team, a 5.0 Ford V8 bolts right in, with the only clearance issues being a few places on the firewall. In fact, the 5.0 HO engine only weighs about 60 lbs more than the 12A rotary of the early RX7, which is easily offset by relocating the battery to the trunk.

The Supra Turbo has a very strong engine, capable of taking lot's of boost, or nitrous, or both.

It's just that after that movie, every punkass kid in town got a civic and started ricing it up...

Exactly, yeah I'd say there was a movement. I don't recall seeing very many Hondas around my area with those ugly metal wings that just don't match a damn thing. Nor do I remember hearing all the exhaust noise from 4 cylinders I hear today around my area. Maybe I just didn't notice it as much but I know its a fact about the stupid wings.

Originally posted by DemonZX
"oh yeah there's a movement...There is a movement!":hehe: :buck :cwn27:
...DOHC I think we missed that........ damn.....or maybe we started it? Its was based on a street racing story in new york and mus lives in queens......maybe mus started it!!!!!!!! lol either way it just allows us more ppl to race.

:flipa: thats all i have to say to ricers...i'd get one of those if i wanted a quicker way to be fast, but i just like the styling of my integra more than the 80's RX-7/Supras. my friend has an 89 Supra, an i jus don't like the look of them. but to every person their own i guess...

I like the Supra/RX7 more for their basic platform. You can make any car faster, and you can make any car look better, but it's a lot harder to change things like weight distribution, suspension geometry, room in the wheel wells(my biggest complaint about the FB RX7 :mad: ), etc.

If you want, you can put a complete body kit on a car, chop off the roof, graft on chunks of other cars even! You still can't change what's underneath though...

Originally posted by Cbass

You still can't change what's underneath though...



I beg to differ...haven't you heard of engine transplants before? you know..switching out crappy stock civic engines for a better B series engine..you know that stuff..there's enuf ricers in BC.

I didn't mention engine swaps because they're relatively easy, compared to revising suspension or making changes to the frame of a car.

When I said they're good platforms, I meant that they have good suspension, a reasonable stiff body, light weight and room for larger engines.

ehhe oh..I knew dat lols.