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wut beats a charger


Lyken
09-21-2007, 05:55 PM
I got a buddy that brags about his 72 big block charger all the time. Just once I want to show him up or at least keep head to head with him across the finish line.

So if anyone can give me a good guess at what can keep up with the charger it'd be great.

Thanks

VR43000GT
09-21-2007, 10:24 PM
The TT Viper Hennessey Venom might stand a chance lol.

lamehonda
09-24-2007, 03:08 PM
Just use a race course with a corner. He will be screwed.

SilentNIght1647
10-02-2007, 04:34 AM
My Nova does, I ran a guy in Charger once had a 426 in it. I smoked it with my 383 and he got all upset.

CassiesMan
10-02-2007, 09:33 AM
Depending on the condition of the car, and how much bullshit your friend is full of, either a whole lot can beat it, or not a whole lot can beat it.

AMGalltheway
10-02-2007, 07:38 PM
tell anthony i said hi

only kidding and yeah a lot depends on specifics
do you have a timeslip or anything we can get an idea of this chargers level how stock or unstock is it?

Lyken
10-09-2007, 08:53 PM
actually I figured out he has the small block. Otherwise with all the jargin he uses and the knowledge I know(nothing). He has dual competition headers or something that he mentions a lot, its a manual but I think he's working on changing it into a manual and its actually the small block not the big block. So that kinda sparks up what can beat him, or I'm supposing.

Well right now I"m looking into cars, I remember that my step dad had a 66 caprice so I'm looking into those but really cant find anything but I'm still likeing the newer ones also.

Another point if anyone can tell me what I can throw in my 02 pontiac grand prix with the 3.1L se... I don't know I"m dreamin right now lol. thanks.

Otherwise I don't have any new info about his charger.

AMGalltheway
10-10-2007, 12:17 PM
...its a manual but I think he's working on changing it into a manual...
sounds like anthony all right :lol:
and as far as a car that can beat it in a race (as far as 1/4 mile is concerned) it depends what hes running and how modded your car would be and what kind of car you would have and if your deciding what car to get look in the classifieds generally lots of older muscle cars in there or read the sticky threads on top of the street racing and/or nonspecific forums they might help

Lyken
10-11-2007, 08:12 PM
Alright thanks... I have been looking into some nova's bcuz it would be easier to find parts.

that and I was looking for a grand national or GTX (yay good luck for me!)

otherwise I found a javelin that might do the trick for $750(I'm also on a low budget)

But I will look into some more forums.

CassiesMan
10-12-2007, 08:41 AM
Question 1. What do you drive right now?

good luck on finding a GNX that is reasonably priced...

Lyken
10-12-2007, 03:14 PM
yeah I know that's why i said "good luck for me" but right now i drive an 02 grand prix

nissanfanatic
10-14-2007, 05:01 PM
Don't be surprised if the Nova pulls a whopping 15.2@91mph. A lot of muscle car guys get shut down when the actually run their car because they find out that old ass V8s can't breathe for shit, even with their summit special headers and air filter.

Lets put it this way, if he isn't mentioning Heads/cam setup, then he probably isn't shit. And if he is, I doubt he will take the time to have it tuned, so he probably still isn't shit.

Lyken
10-15-2007, 08:37 PM
what about some newer cars, something that wont cost me a lot to get the actual car but I can put some performance parts into it or swap the engine for cheap like a evo(although cheaper than that... very cheaper than that)

VR43000GT
10-15-2007, 08:41 PM
GSX DSM's are cheap to buy, cheap to modify, and can be made wicked fast.

vectorspecialist
10-19-2007, 04:48 PM
how bout shoving the supercharged v6 into ur grand prix, my friends sisters was quick.

good luck with finding a GNX for under 40g that's in good condition...if not more.

i'd say an awd elclipse(gsx) or talon awd. an early 90's 240sx would do the job after a lil work was done(i know of one that needs a door and left front light) but it's 750 bucks(and yea it runs). a porsche 944 turbo would run with it...i think. wat kind of small block are we talking here? like a 318?

Lyken
10-19-2007, 07:35 PM
Yea that sounds about right a 318... I haven't talked to him in a few weeks now since he's still in school and he works his ass off for sh** he wants, and I'm supposing he got another job tyring to get enough money to get some new paint.

I was looking at some 240sx cuz I really like the look of them... but other research has brought me to see an el camino... not sure how fast they are but I'm liking the size, and the fact that I won't have to be giving rides to everyone all the time. Plus the fact that I LIKE music so putting 3 8's behind the seats... that would make my car pound especially without making a trunk rattle like in my prix.

So tell me what you think about an 80 el camino with a factory floor shift 3-speed, with a 305 in it. I don't really car what's in it right now, cuz for sure if i get it i'm swapping it for a 4speed and maybe a better engine, but I want something thats cheap on gas as I want it for a daily driving. Any tips and advice is appreciated.
(plus the fact that I can find these camino's cheap, the mentioned above is only 1800.. a lil pricy for me but in a month I could afford it.)

AMGalltheway
10-22-2007, 01:56 PM
i think thats the question on everyone's mind
What kind of engine does he have?

CassiesMan
10-22-2007, 02:11 PM
240SX can handle 500 whp on stock internals...

asuj_158@msn.com
11-02-2007, 03:49 PM
um if you got the money pick up a 95 m3 and put a decent turbo on it that might do it but idk.

asuj_158@msn.com
11-02-2007, 03:50 PM
wow i didnt know a 240sx could handle that on stock...

CassiesMan
11-03-2007, 12:06 PM
um if you got the money pick up a 95 m3 and put a decent turbo on it that might do it but idk.

I would suggest that but the cost of getting good drag power out of the turboed E36s is pretty steep.

asuj_158@msn.com
11-04-2007, 10:23 AM
true but its worth it

CassiesMan
11-05-2007, 04:42 PM
Not so much. Turning the E36 into a dragger is going to take away alot of what made them such a fun little car. I learned the hard way that while BMWs can cut some amazing 1/4 mile times, you REALLY have to pay to play with these. A quality true dual exhaust set up on an LS F Body will set you back about six to seven hundred bucks. A marginally decent exhaust for a base E46 325i is going to be about five hundred. The turbo kit that AA puts out for the E36 M3 costs about 8-9 thousand.

Of course, it all depends on what the OP wants to run. Domestic or Import/Transplant is the first question, and then we can go from there.

asuj_158@msn.com
11-06-2007, 07:15 PM
True im a die hard bimmer fan though. And also ive seen what one can do first hand. I saw an e36 m3 smash a viper. Viper guy got a little fiesty after he lost. But i know the guy with the bimmer and he has like an endless supply of money so i guess thats why. (I wish i had endless supplies of money)

Lyken
11-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Well I just talked to my buddy recently. He has been working double shifts so its been hard to get a hold of him. As it turns out I was right, he's saving to paint the charger now.

Well anyway the engine is a 318, and unusually it's a hemi... well not really, the top of the heads are hemishperical, however the sparkplug isn't set vertically so it really isn't... how much effect his custom heads are I don't know. So that's what I've found out.

as for that el camino... i threw that idea out the window.

I found a 73(i believe this is the correct year) camaro that only needs a new carbureator, and a lot of bodywork but has a solid frame and only costs $1500.

I'm still looking but number two on my list is going to be the 240sx

vectorspecialist
11-07-2007, 04:01 AM
a charger with a 318 could b beaten by my stealth tt, stock.

the 240sx is a decent car, good weight balance, 50/50. not exactly as quick as everyone makes them out to be, with a lil bit of modificatoin tho that'll change. the 95-98 are hard to find for sale, but the early 90's are easier to get. just gotta pay attention to them, i've yet to see a 240sx hatch that was not modded. if u dont wanna mod a car than it'll b harder to find, if u want to, then it's been started for u

CassiesMan
11-07-2007, 09:51 AM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=758453

One of our own members.

vectorspecialist
11-07-2007, 10:11 AM
wat u saying my statement was wrong, i said they can b made quick. but stock is arguementive. 95-98 will keep up with my 87 944. it depends on wat quick is to u.

CassiesMan
11-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Are you saying that I was wrong? I said they can be made quick, but when stock, it is debateable. A 95-98 will keep up with my 87 944. It depends on what your definition of quick is.

There we go, much better.

My post is for Lyken's benefit, to see what a KA motored 240 is capable of. It wasn't aimed at you at all. He said second on his list was a Nissan 240SX, and I was just pointing this out to him so he can take a look. Simple as that.

DragonLord3688
11-07-2007, 11:52 AM
Charger's are just an intimidation car in my opinion, My lancer right now primarily stock with a turbo has 243 hp, Needle alone goes to 160, and has a few notches afterwards, I think I could get it that high since it's not that old, a charger, stock, only goes to 140 or so buried. I could be wrong but that's just my assessment of the two

new2mitsu
11-07-2007, 01:40 PM
ok, but we're talking about drag racing here, who i the hell carws about top speed, none of those cars will see trap speeds much over 100 stock anyway.

Polygon
11-07-2007, 01:44 PM
Simple, weight less and have more power and you will win proivded you know how to drive and have the same gear ratios.

GForce957
11-07-2007, 03:58 PM
Charger's are just an intimidation car in my opinion, My lancer right now primarily stock with a turbo has 243 hp, Needle alone goes to 160, and has a few notches afterwards, I think I could get it that high since it's not that old, a charger, stock, only goes to 140 or so buried. I could be wrong but that's just my assessment of the two

You aren't getting to 160+ with a lancer making 243hp

vectorspecialist
11-07-2007, 09:19 PM
There we go, much better.

My post is for Lyken's benefit, to see what a KA motored 240 is capable of. It wasn't aimed at you at all. He said second on his list was a Nissan 240SX, and I was just pointing this out to him so he can take a look. Simple as that.


gotcha. but seriously if it were me i wouldnt buy a 240, decent car and all, but in my opinion they're too common

CassiesMan
11-07-2007, 09:42 PM
There is a reason they are common. Dave Colman did a great piece about it. Trying to forge a new path is fun and exciting and makes you an innovator. But for promised results, where everyone else has already done the work, all you need to do is copy it. If you want something uncommon and new and innovative, then do that with your second, weekend car, and have something common that everyone knows how to work on. Hence, I suggest the 240. There are people running around with gobs of power from turboing the stock motor or swapping in SR20DETs. Why spend obscene amounts of money trying something new, when you have guaranteed results right here?

Thats just my two quid. Its your car, and your race.

GForce957
11-07-2007, 11:01 PM
There is a reason they are common. Dave Colman did a great piece about it. Trying to forge a new path is fun and exciting and makes you an innovator. But for promised results, where everyone else has already done the work, all you need to do is copy it. If you want something uncommon and new and innovative, then do that with your second, weekend car, and have something common that everyone knows how to work on. Hence, I suggest the 240. There are people running around with gobs of power from turboing the stock motor or swapping in SR20DETs. Why spend obscene amounts of money trying something new, when you have guaranteed results right here?

Thats just my two quid. Its your car, and your race.

yup, I am getting a 240 because I don't have a ton of money to play with and it has dozens of proven possibilities. Although I am thinking about putting in an rb motor to be slightly less common :)

vectorspecialist
11-08-2007, 06:31 AM
yea i'm happy with my stealth and 944. i was gonna go with a 95+ 240sx, but to hard to find for sale

GForce957
11-08-2007, 02:57 PM
yea i'm happy with my stealth and 944. i was gonna go with a 95+ 240sx, but to hard to find for sale


Yeah, im still looking for an affordable 95+:frown:

Mr. Luos
11-08-2007, 04:56 PM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=758453

One of our own members.
I think mine would do the trick as well. :grinyes:

That is a quick little ride for sure.

CassiesMan
11-08-2007, 06:18 PM
I think mine would do the trick as well. :grinyes:

That is a quick little ride for sure.

Maybe the Grand Prix, not that slow Prious powered T/A. :grinyes:

VR43000GT
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
^^*ERRRRRRRRR*

Sorry but I believe the word you were looking for was Grand Am.

Better luck next time. :icon16:

CassiesMan
11-08-2007, 09:35 PM
^^*ERRRRRRRRR*

Sorry but I believe the word you were looking for was Grand Am.

Better luck next time. :icon16:

I though he had a Grand Prix? The bigger of the two.

Just checked, it is a Grand Am. Hmm, learn something new every day.

Mr. Luos
11-10-2007, 10:37 PM
Gotta watch out for those Grand Am's.....

Lyken
01-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Alright... well i raced him and won.

2003 Toyota 4Runner it was fun. Thanks for the help

CassiesMan
01-07-2008, 10:09 AM
Damn, that is a slow ass Charger.

Lyken
01-07-2008, 04:03 PM
Yea but apparently he "wasn't racing", i saw him one day and pulled up next to him but i guess he wasn't trying to race cuz he saw a cop.

Whatever... anyway I bought an 89 daytona shelby 2.5L automatic... I know its not the 2.2L 5speed with the TurboII and it only has one turbo... I made a post about it in the daytona section but any help with fixing it up or making it faster would be appreciated. Thanks.

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