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Location of GTR's - Indexhurstg01 09-21-2007, 01:23 PM Following on from F1 Monsters thread :thumbsup: (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=752968), I thought it best to seperate this idea from that thread to stop it from getting lost, as it hopefully will be constantly updated. Please correct me where necessary and I'll update the list as new info comes to light, also if anyone knows where a certain GTR was last seen, please let me know and I'll update it. The correct accreditation will be used followed by a :thumbsup: #01R - Le Mans 1995 winner; retained by Mclaren at its Technology Centre in Woking, UK; still in its original Ueno Clinic livery; last seen at the Autosport International show in January 2007 http://img157.imagevenue.com/loc831/th_78848_001R_4_122_831lo.jpg (http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78848_001R_4_122_831lo.jpg) http://img187.imagevenue.com/loc522/th_53249_97741763_5a6ad7f4b7_122_522lo.jpg (http://img187.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53249_97741763_5a6ad7f4b7_122_522lo. jpg) #02R - Last seen in the British GT series in 1998 and maybe in England(:thumbsup: Erik & MM) http://img158.imagevenue.com/loc1058/th_38831_p62001148ir_122_1058lo.jpg (http://img158.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=38831_p62001148ir_122_1058lo.jpg) http://img158.imagevenue.com/loc664/th_29605_002R_lanzante_98_122_664lo.jpg (http://img158.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=29605_002R_lanzante_98_122_664lo.jpg ) http://img181.imagevenue.com/loc447/th_65224_002R_12_122_447lo.jpg (http://img181.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_65224_002R_12_122_447lo.jpg) http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc232/th_65224_002R_Lloyds_98_122_232lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65224_002R_Lloyds_98_122_232lo.jpg) http://img126.imagevenue.com/loc634/th_65226_Ueno_1_122_634lo.jpg (http://img126.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65226_Ueno_1_122_634lo.jpg) #03R - Last seen in its WEST livery at an Auto show in Denmark (?) (:thumbsup: Erik for the 1st pic) http://img180.imagevenue.com/loc528/th_19539_003R_Art_Soorts_Mclaren_Le_mans_96_1_122_ 528lo.jpg (http://img180.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19539_003R_Art_Soorts_Mclaren_Le_man s_96_1_122_528lo.jpg) http://img107.imagevenue.com/loc717/th_53257_003R_2_122_717lo.jpg (http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53257_003R_2_122_717lo.jpg) http://img191.imagevenue.com/loc575/th_66945_003R_Davidoff_1_122_575lo.jpg (http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66945_003R_Davidoff_1_122_575lo.jpg) http://img186.imagevenue.com/loc587/th_66951_003R_Sal_Openheim_Jr._3_Cie__Le_Mans_96_1 22_587lo.jpg (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66951_003R_Sal_Openheim_Jr._3_Cie__L e_Mans_96_122_587lo.jpg) http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc59/th_66962_1995_BPR_Nurburgring_05_122_59lo.jpg (http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66962_1995_BPR_Nurburgring_05_122_59 lo.jpg) http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc1004/th_79010_003R_Le_Mans_95_122_1004lo.jpg (http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=79010_003R_Le_Mans_95_122_1004lo.jpg ) http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc826/th_79065_003R_Nogaro_96_1_122_826lo.jpg (http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=79065_003R_Nogaro_96_1_122_826lo.jpg ) #04R - MIA, possibly written off (:thumbsup: Erik) http://img40.imagevenue.com/loc685/th_53258_mcf1_122_685lo.jpg (http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53258_mcf1_122_685lo.jpg) #05R - Last seen in France; still in its Yacco / Cesar livery as seen at Le Castellett, France, early in 2008 http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc1016/th_88067_005R_Italjet_4_122_1016lo.jpg (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88067_005R_Italjet_4_122_1016lo.jpg) http://img173.imagevenue.com/loc991/th_88019_05r55ae1_122_991lo.JPG (http://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88019_05r55ae1_122_991lo.JPG) http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc1195/th_87928_005R_Italjet_Le_Mans_96_1_122_1195lo.jpg (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=87928_005R_Italjet_Le_Mans_96_1_122_ 1195lo.jpg) http://img130.imagevenue.com/loc370/th_53264_mclaren-GTR-trackday-04_122_370lo.jpg (http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53264_mclaren-GTR-trackday-04_122_370lo.jpg) http://img187.imagevenue.com/loc360/th_67607_005R_Italjet_1_122_360lo.jpg (http://img187.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67607_005R_Italjet_1_122_360lo.jpg) http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc654/th_67614_005R_Philippe_Charriol_1_122_654lo.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67614_005R_Philippe_Charriol_1_122_6 54lo.jpg) http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc734/th_38609_1998dijonmclarensu4_122_734lo.jpg (http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=38609_1998dijonmclarensu4_122_734lo. jpg) #06R - now road registered in the UK and owned by David Clark; still in its Harrods livery; last seen at the Cholmondley Pageant of Power in August 2008 http://img12.imagevenue.com/loc789/th_29392_99_122_789lo.JPG (http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=29392_99_122_789lo.JPG) http://img158.imagevenue.com/loc1161/th_88386_02_Mc-laren-F1-GTR-s1_122_1161lo.jpg (http://img158.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88386_02_Mc-laren-F1-GTR-s1_122_1161lo.jpg) http://img103.imagevenue.com/loc980/th_88201_lemans-1996-24h-jl-0128_122_980lo.jpg (http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88201_lemans-1996-24h-jl-0128_122_980lo.jpg) http://img9.imagevenue.com/loc606/th_57821_DSCN2643_122_606lo.JPG (http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57821_DSCN2643_122_606lo.JPG) http://img185.imagevenue.com/loc574/th_68156_006R_MVR_122_574lo.jpg (http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68156_006R_MVR_122_574lo.jpg) http://img184.imagevenue.com/loc213/th_68164_006R_San_Miguel_2_122_213lo.jpg (http://img184.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68164_006R_San_Miguel_2_122_213lo.jp g) #07R - now road registered; in Papaya orange, last seen in Oakfields, Hampshire, UK during 2008 http://img111.imagevenue.com/loc857/th_88467_p61101027pn_122_857lo.jpg (http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88467_p61101027pn_122_857lo.jpg) http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc392/th_57820_007R_38_122_392lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57820_007R_38_122_392lo.jpg) http://img175.imagevenue.com/loc788/th_68277_007R_35_122_788lo.jpg (http://img175.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68277_007R_35_122_788lo.jpg) http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc203/th_68282_007R_trying_to_be_an_LM_6_122_203lo.jpg (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68282_007R_trying_to_be_an_LM_6_122_ 203lo.jpg) #08R - now road registered; owned by Salman bin Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, the Crown Prince of Bahrain (:thumbsup: Erik); in Papaya orange http://img21.imagevenue.com/loc735/th_19238_008R_Fina_2_122_735lo.jpg (http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19238_008R_Fina_2_122_735lo.jpg) http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc858/th_88685_l_mclaren_122_858lo.jpg (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88685_l_mclaren_122_858lo.jpg) http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc1008/th_57842_008R_10_122_1008lo.jpg (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57842_008R_10_122_1008lo.jpg) http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc1004/th_68417_008R_White_Gulf_56_1_122_1004lo.jpg (http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68417_008R_White_Gulf_56_1_122_1004l o.jpg) http://img177.imagevenue.com/loc382/th_68419_008R_Le_Mans_95_122_382lo.jpg (http://img177.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68419_008R_Le_Mans_95_122_382lo.jpg) http://img136.imagevenue.com/loc20/th_68493_mclaren_f1_gtr_3small4_122_20lo.jpg (http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68493_mclaren_f1_gtr_3small4_122_20l o.jpg) http://img226.imagevenue.com/loc339/th_17249_copy320246_122_339lo.jpg (http://img226.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=17249_copy320246_122_339lo.jpg) #09R - in Brunei; #01R look-a-like http://img190.imagevenue.com/loc580/th_57836_009R_122_580lo.jpg #10R - now road registered in the UK and owned by Nick Mason; last seen at the Beaulieu Motor Museum in June 2008 http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc850/th_19305_010R_Le_Mans_96_122_850lo.jpg (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19305_010R_Le_Mans_96_122_850lo.jpg) http://img191.imagevenue.com/loc382/th_57879_IMGP3198_122_382lo.jpg (http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57879_IMGP3198_122_382lo.jpg) http://img37.imagevenue.com/loc1133/th_68596_010R_122_1133lo.jpg (http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68596_010R_122_1133lo.jpg) http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc950/th_68602_010R_Original_Livery_3_122_950lo.jpg (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68602_010R_Original_Livery_3_122_950 lo.jpg) #11R - now road registered and in northern Italy (:thumbsup: Abi2612) http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc19/th_19443_011R1_122_19lo.jpg (http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19443_011R1_122_19lo.jpg) http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc554/th_89223_011R_Test_Mule_for_CLK_GTR_3_122_554lo.jp g (http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89223_011R_Test_Mule_for_CLK_GTR_3_1 22_554lo.jpg) http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc1057/th_78922_011R_Franck_Muller_2_122_1057lo.jpg (http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78922_011R_Franck_Muller_2_122_1057l o.jpg) http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc1115/th_57931_McLora_122_1115lo.jpg (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57931_McLora_122_1115lo.jpg) http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc648/th_68753_011R_Franck_Muller_122_648lo.jpg (http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68753_011R_Franck_Muller_122_648lo.j pg) http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc1007/th_75831_011R_Franck_Muller_White_1_122_1007lo.JPG (http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=75831_011R_Franck_Muller_White_1_122 _1007lo.JPG) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_brasilia_8.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/brasilia_8.jpg) #12R - now owned by Aaron Hsu; was residing at Highcroft Racing in Connecticut, US of A now believed to be back in the UK (:thumbsup: Erik); possibly with Lanzante; still in its GULF livery. Last seen at 2008's Goodwood Festival of Speed http://img161.imagevenue.com/loc1173/th_57965_5_122_1173lo.jpg (http://img161.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57965_5_122_1173lo.jpg) http://img9.imagevenue.com/loc638/th_19872_mcl_SI_049_122_638lo.JPG (http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19872_mcl_SI_049_122_638lo.JPG) #13R - Lives in Germany (:thumbsup: MAC876); still in its LARK livery http://img21.imagevenue.com/loc1026/th_57964_10_122_1026lo.jpg (http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57964_10_122_1026lo.jpg) #14R - T-boned by a Porsche at Sugo in Japan in 1996, although It has been repaired http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc771/th_68842_014R_Lark_1_122_771lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68842_014R_Lark_1_122_771lo.jpg) #15R - now road registered; probably last seen in Monaco; in Papaya orange http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc495/th_57976_img22950qj_0Large1_122_495lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57976_img22950qj_0Large1_122_495lo.j pg) http://img186.imagevenue.com/loc118/th_57980_McLaren820GTR520Gulf020cars020pit120exit9 20120Silverstone120BPR520GT62096_122_118lo.jpg (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57980_McLaren820GTR520Gulf020cars020 pit120exit920120Silverstone120BPR520GT62096_122_11 8lo.jpg) http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc1023/th_68899_015R_Marlboro_F1_Zhuhai_1996_122_1023lo.j pg (http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68899_015R_Marlboro_F1_Zhuhai_1996_1 22_1023lo.jpg) http://img108.imagevenue.com/loc847/th_19790_photo_81_122_847lo.jpg (http://img108.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19790_photo_81_122_847lo.jpg) #16R - in a nice Garage in the UK; was owned by Mr Bridger :worshippy; in Papaya orange, now for sale through D K Engineering (http://www.dkeng.com/frames.php) http://img121.imagevenue.com/loc948/th_68966_016R_122_948lo.jpg (http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68966_016R_122_948lo.jpg) http://img18.imagevenue.com/loc1169/th_38155_p8270158mf2_122_1169lo.jpg (http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=38155_p8270158mf2_122_1169lo.jpg) #17R - often seen in the US of A / Canada; owned by BMW US of A; still in its FINA livery http://img150.imagevenue.com/loc748/th_71056_motreal_4_122_748lo.JPG (http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=71056_motreal_4_122_748lo.JPG) #18R - last seen doing the rounds of what looked like a Trading Estate / Docks in Frankfurt in June 2008; owned by BMW and kept at the BMW Mobile Tradition Museum in Germany, allowed out for various showings; still in its FINA livery (:thumbsup: Le Man) http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc377/th_72954_018R_Hollywood_Brazil_1996_122_377lo.jpg (http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=72954_018R_Hollywood_Brazil_1996_122 _377lo.jpg) http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1323/p7070039vo1.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7070039vo1.jpg) #19R - was owned by Kevin Crowder, Texas, although now owned by a UK based 'client' after being sold through Symbolic Motors in December 2008; still in its LARK livery (:thumbsup: Erik) http://img133.imagevenue.com/loc33/th_19200_F11_122_33lo.jpg (http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19200_F11_122_33lo.jpg) http://img107.imagevenue.com/loc776/th_58156_019R_Lark_18_122_776lo.jpg (http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58156_019R_Lark_18_122_776lo.jpg) http://img142.imagevenue.com/loc196/th_69066_019R_2_122_196lo.jpg (http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69066_019R_2_122_196lo.jpg) http://img23.imagevenue.com/loc913/th_69071_109dp_122_913lo.jpg (http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69071_109dp_122_913lo.jpg) #20R - last seen residing at Mclaren's Technology Centre, UK, in its GULF livery http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc404/th_58176_340608a1_122_404lo.jpg (http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58176_340608a1_122_404lo.jpg) #21R - now owned by Christian Gläsel of Germany(?) (:thumbsup: Erik); and last seen at Hockenheim for the Jim Clark Revival in 2008; still in its FINA livery http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc1126/th_37174_DSC05291_122_1126lo.JPG (http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=37174_DSC05291_122_1126lo.JPG) http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc790/th_69154_021R_122_790lo.jpg (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69154_021R_122_790lo.jpg) #22R - believed to be owned by Thomas Bscher in Germany (?); not seen for a while (:thumbsup: to Erik for the Davidoff / Day Off clarification) http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc1189/th_03592_022R_all_black_122_1189lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=03592_022R_all_black_122_1189lo.jpg) http://img188.imagevenue.com/loc358/th_03707_022R_A1-Ring_98_122_358lo.jpg (http://img188.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=03707_022R_A1-Ring_98_122_358lo.jpg)http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc816/th_37001_022R_Davidoff_Silverstone_1998_122_816lo. jpg (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=37001_022R_Davidoff_Silverstone_1998 _122_816lo.jpg) http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc500/th_69234_468463610UeuwyS_fs_122_500lo.jpg (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69234_468463610UeuwyS_fs_122_500lo.j pg) http://img129.imagevenue.com/loc3/th_36919_McLaren_BMW_F1_GTR_5_122_3lo.jpg (http://img129.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36919_McLaren_BMW_F1_GTR_5_122_3lo.j pg) #23R - now owned by Lawrence Stroll; last seen at the Circuit de Tremblant, Canada; still in its Fina livery http://img154.imagevenue.com/loc1105/th_58305_842300060_5a50fcd8cc_b_122_1105lo.jpg (http://img154.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58305_842300060_5a50fcd8cc_b_122_110 5lo.jpg) #24R - now owned by Paul Knapfield in the UK; still in its EMKA livery; last seen at Magny Cours round of the GT90's revival (:thumbsup: to Le Man for Fina / Davidoff livery notification) http://img25.imagevenue.com/loc994/th_33846_Nurburgring-1997-06-29-002_at_the_back_122_994lo.jpg (http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33846_Nurburgring-1997-06-29-002_at_the_back_122_994lo.jpg) http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc343/th_33325_lemans-1997-24h-pm-0126_122_343lo.jpg (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33325_lemans-1997-24h-pm-0126_122_343lo.jpg) http://img180.imagevenue.com/loc80/th_58309_024R_8_122_80lo.jpg (http://img180.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58309_024R_8_122_80lo.jpg) http://img144.imagevenue.com/loc730/th_69326_024R_18_122_730lo.jpg (http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69326_024R_18_122_730lo.jpg) #25R - last seen in a large warehouse / storage facility in Japan; was in the JGTC in 2002 in its Yellowcorn livery http://img183.imagevenue.com/loc340/th_58321_2fd93fe3_122_340lo.jpg (http://img183.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58321_2fd93fe3_122_340lo.jpg) http://img22.imagevenue.com/loc1195/th_69399_025R_97gt18_122_1195lo.jpg (http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69399_025R_97gt18_122_1195lo.jpg) http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc1000/th_69411_025R_Tajimax_Super_GT_122_1000lo.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69411_025R_Tajimax_Super_GT_122_1000 lo.jpg) http://img128.imagevenue.com/loc560/th_76850_025R_Purpose_122_560lo.jpg (http://img128.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=76850_025R_Purpose_122_560lo.jpg) http://img142.imagevenue.com/loc2/th_79381_025R_Zero_2_122_2lo.jpg (http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=79381_025R_Zero_2_122_2lo.jpg) http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc900/th_36747_025R_Yellowcorn_JGT_3_122_900lo.jpg (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36747_025R_Yellowcorn_JGT_3_122_900l o.jpg) #26R - owned by BMW and kept at the BMW Mobile Tradition Museum in Germany, allowed out for various showings; still in its FINA livery; last seen in Dijon, France (:thumbsup: for reminding me, Erik) http://img188.imagevenue.com/loc155/th_58495_DSC09095_copy_122_155lo.jpg (http://img188.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58495_DSC09095_copy_122_155lo.jpg) #27R - still in its Papaya orange racing colours; for sale at £1m and was last seen at the Autosport International 2008 show(:thumbsup: to Erik for the last Photo) http://img7.imagevenue.com/loc864/th_58507_2119296740048036277fdgfjy_ph_122_864lo.jp g (http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58507_2119296740048036277fdgfjy_ph_1 22_864lo.jpg) http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc233/th_69506_027R_Silverstone_97_122_233lo.jpg (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69506_027R_Silverstone_97_122_233lo. jpg) http://img44.imagevenue.com/loc619/th_79595_027R__7_122_619lo.jpg (http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=79595_027R__7_122_619lo.jpg) http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc878/th_35713_019R_3_122_878lo.JPG (http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=35713_019R_3_122_878lo.JPG) #28R - last seen at Bingo Sports in Japan; still in its GULF / Day Off / Davidoff livery http://img187.imagevenue.com/loc544/th_58518_028R_Spa_97_122_544lo.jpg (http://img187.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58518_028R_Spa_97_122_544lo.jpg) Unknown from Le Man - chassis # therefore location unknown as of 27.11.07 http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/315954/S96E05.jpg Updated as of 13.02.09 F1 monster 09-21-2007, 02:33 PM Superb list. Thanks. Hopefully it will get a few of the blanks filled in over time. Peloton25 09-21-2007, 03:52 PM 12R is back in the UK 19R is Kevin Crowder's in Texas I believe. 21R is Peter (or maybe Christian?) Glasel's car now. I think 14R was written off following the Japan GT series crash at Sugo in 1996 that supposedly caused heavy damage to the tub, making the 'M66 MCL' car 15R instead. I'm not in front of my own computer right now. If I think of anything else I will add it later. >8^) ER hurstg01 09-21-2007, 04:14 PM ^^ all amended Erik :cheers: Peloton25 09-21-2007, 06:50 PM I should have added that I think 04R is also gone. In 1995 it had a heavy crash and the Gulf team had to replace the car with 08R to finish out the season. The poster included with Driving Ambition claims that 04R stood in for 14R at the last race of the Japan GT series in 1996 at the Mine Circuit. I highly doubt that information is accurate and instead believe that it was most likely #08R that fulfilled the role, later becoming the West-liveried "Adrenaline Program" car. #02R participated in a couple of events in the British GT Series - I think in 1998 maybe. I can confirm when I get back home. That's the last time it was seen that I recall. 08R is in Bahrain (oops) - I'll add the current owner's name later on. >8^) ER Peloton25 09-22-2007, 03:36 AM Some more updates and comments: 02R - this GTR last appeared in the 1996 BRDC GT Series: Rd1 - Silverstone (DNF); Rd2 - Donington (1st); Rd3 - Brands Hatch (3rd); Rd4 - Donington (2nd); Rd5 - Thruxton (4th); Rd6 - Snetterton (8th); Rd7 - Oulton Park (3rd); Rd8 - Silverstone (2nd). At each event the drivers were Ian Flux (GB) and Jake Ulrich (USA) with the car being prepared and entered by Lanzante Motorsport. At most of the events it wore the Blue/Yellow livery in a similar to the short tail Gulf GTR's paint schemes in '95 & '96, with the exception being the Silverstone race at the end of the year where it wore the special "Lloyds of London" livery in Blue/White with white wheels. There is one tiny pic that has surfaced of it since then wearing all blue paint with the yellow wheels, but no graphics. It appears the rear spoiler had either been removed or simply cropped from the photo. Not sure when/where that image was taken, however, I bet someone with the last name Lanzante would know more about the car's current whereabouts. Anyone have their number handy? :D = = = = = = 07R - I'd call it "MIA" since it hasn't been spotted anywhere in about 3 years. I think the last time someone knew where it was was around July 2004 when Duncan Hamilton had it up for sale. Our old friend tvrfreak had taken some pics of it there in January as well. = = = = = = 08R - The current owner is Salman bin Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, the Crown Prince of Bahrain. What a name! in some instances you will see him referred to more simply as "Sheikh Salman" which is how I have labeled the folder on my PC. ;) On his Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_bin_Hamad_bin_Isa_Al_Khalifa) it mentions: The Crown Prince also spearheaded a major national initiative to bring Formula One racing to Bahrain and the Middle East. H.H. initiated the construction of the Bahrain International Circuit, which was a national objective for Bahrain, and a miraculous feat of engineering. On April 4th 2004, the Bahrain Grand Prix made history as the first Formula One Grand Prix to be held in the Middle East, featuring a world class grand prix circuit. I do note from my info that we still assuming that car is 08R, I don't believe it has yet been confirmed. I'd be extremely surprised if that assumption was incorrect though. = = = = = = 17R - This one used to be stored and prepared by Tom Milner's company, PTG Racing, in Winchester, Virginia for BMW USA. I am not sure where it lives now that PTG has severed their ties with BMW and is no longer campaiging BMWs in any racing series, however, I am sure it is still around. I think the most recent sighting was at an event in Canada and prior to that it appeared at the 2007 Amelia Island Concours in Florida held in March. I'll have to ask Stephan Bauer what event the car was at in Canada next time I see him online - maybe it wasn't even Canada. = = = = = = 18R - I would label it (and 26R) as being kept at the BMW Mobile Tradition Museum in Germany with occasional outings to represent BMW Motorsport's history at various motoring enthusiast events. 18R's last trip to Goodwood was in 2005 - I am not sure if it has been out to play since then, but I have nothing to prove that it was. = = = = = = 19R - Proper spelling of the owner's last name is Crowder, not Crowther. = = = = = = 21R - Let's go with Christian Gläsel since that is who Octane credited with ownership of the car in their recent article. Christian is Peter's son so maybe they share it or maybe it was a birthday gift. :dunno: = = = = = = 26R - I think the last time was shown was in Sept 2006 for the 100th FIA GT race celebrations at Dijon in France. Prior to that it was at an BMW Motorsports event held in conjunction with the Malaysian Grand Prix in March 2006. = = = = = = That's all I've got for now... :2cents: To really make this list a lot like the others we are keeping on the regional fleets it could use some photographs. I am of course happy to help out with that if you want my assistance. >8^) ER hurstg01 09-22-2007, 05:27 AM ^^ Cheers for that Erik, I'll work on the text changes today hurstg01 09-22-2007, 10:07 AM I have now added the photo's, showing each car in each of it's liveries. If there are any more to add, or corrections to be made, once again feel free to post here and I'll change it where necessary Le Man 09-22-2007, 10:52 AM Greg, pic of 18R is incorrect.:nono: you have 17R pictured. Great thread btw :thumbsup: hurstg01 09-22-2007, 10:57 AM Greg, pic of 18R is incorrect.:nono: you have 17R pictured. Great thread btw :thumbsup: I really struggle identifying these 2 in Fina guise seperately, can anyone help me in telling the difference? Le Man 09-22-2007, 11:15 AM 18R has British/France flags on rear body sides with red flag flash over centre. http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1323/p7070039vo1.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7070039vo1.jpg) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7379/45693063arr4.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=45693063arr4.jpg) 17R has American flag on rear body sides with blue flag flash over centre. http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2656/untitled7zk3.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled7zk3.png) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5972/88222743cd2.th.png (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=88222743cd2.png) Ignore the 39 race number!! hurstg01 09-22-2007, 11:19 AM I think it was the race number that always threw me :rolleyes:. :cheers: Le Man, all updated Peloton25 09-22-2007, 11:42 AM Wow - you really made an effort there Greg. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I'm running out the door and will take a better look later on. Skimming through it I only spotted one issue so far. You have the same pic for the 11R and 18R Hollywood liveries. The pic for 18R is correct, but this was 11R's look for the Brazil races: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_brasilia_8.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/brasilia_8.jpg) Here's a slightly better image of the ZERO livery for GTR #25R: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/th_p4_big.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/p4_big.jpg) I don't see #11R's all white "Franck Muller" livery referenced, so here's the best shot I have of that: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_mclarenmuller8ug.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/mclarenmuller8ug.jpg) Here's the slightly different version of the Orange/Black that it wore at Silverstone in 1996: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_mclarens-frank-muller_c.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/mclarens-frank-muller_c.jpg) The only other suggestion I have at the moment would be to add #01R's Presentation livery. >8^) ER F1 monster 09-22-2007, 11:43 AM Why would a car owned by the crown prince of Bahrain be residing in Dubai? I think it would be more likely that it was just there for an event or two, but kept in Bahrain. Anyone have more info on this? Peloton25 09-22-2007, 12:08 PM ^^^ That was my mistake - Greg can fix. Sorry. >8^) ER hurstg01 09-22-2007, 12:35 PM Wow - you really made an effort there Greg. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: >8^) ER Cheers Erik; not bad for a man with hardly any sleep and always with an ear and eye on both kids whilst on the computer ;) I'll see what else I can add when the kids are asleep hurstg01 09-22-2007, 12:41 PM The pic for 18R is correct, but this was 11R's look for the Brazil races: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_brasilia_8.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/brasilia_8.jpg) I don't see #11R's all white "Franck Muller" livery referenced, so here's the best shot I have of that: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_mclarenmuller8ug.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/mclarenmuller8ug.jpg) Here's the slightly different version of the Orange/Black that it wore at Silverstone in 1996: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_mclarens-frank-muller_c.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/mclarens-frank-muller_c.jpg) >8^) ER all updated :cheers: carbuilder2002 09-22-2007, 01:12 PM 11R still owned jointly by Mr Schwanke and an unknown Swedish person. Thought I had managed to get the funds in July but once a again things fell through. Still fancy 11R of the GTR's available but time will indeed see. hurstg01 09-22-2007, 02:24 PM 11R still owned jointly by Mr Schwanke and an unknown Swedish person. Thought I had managed to get the funds in July but once a again things fell through. Still fancy 11R of the GTR's available but time will indeed see. Updated, and my fingers are crossed for you!! :cheers: pimp349 09-22-2007, 04:47 PM Amazing thread, thanks! Peloton25 09-23-2007, 04:15 PM One would think that with a total of 6 photos of #03R that you'd have captured all of it's liveries, however the ArtSports/Tag Heuer livery worn at LeMans 1996 was missing. This might not be the best photo, but it was what I had hosted: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20B/th_lm9630.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20B/lm9630.jpg) The Marlboro livery was worn by two GTRs - #12R and #15R - at the Zuhai, China race in the 1996 BPR GT series. I can't be certain which one your photo is of under 15R as there's no race number and no coloring at the edges of the windshield banner. Here's two shots - one with #12R wearing race number 2 and one of #15R which would have been wearing race number 6. The only way I can tell that the second shot is #15R is because of the red coloring at the edges of the windshield banner. In all the shots of #12R the stickering there was yellow as in the first picture. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1/th_tal0401ju01.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1/tal0401ju01.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_zhuhai.5.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/zhuhai.5.jpg) #10R at LeMans Pre-Qualifying in 1996: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_Le_Mans-1996-04-28-053.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/Le_Mans-1996-04-28-053.jpg) #11R at Sothebys auction in Monaco in 2000. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/th_011R.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/011R.jpg) #19R's "Nicos" livery from the 1999 JGTC series: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_F1nicos.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/F1nicos.jpg) Here's #08R wearing the FINA Presentation livery: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20D/th_mclarenoriginalpichintergr_800.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20D/mclarenoriginalpichintergr_800.jpg) That's all I have to add for now. I'll be back for more if I think of anything else. >8^) ER Le Man 09-23-2007, 04:55 PM Peloton25 09-23-2007, 05:24 PM 14R ? http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1301/larkcrashzt1.th.png (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=larkcrashzt1.png) (clickable) Most definitely: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3469038&postcount=30 Note: At the time that thread was made, the West Adrenalie GTR chassis number was still thought to be 04R. I think it was BMW.WilliamsF1Team who originally found and shared that image here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=424517 Damage doesn't look all that bad, but there's been no confirmed sightings of 14R since that I recall. >8^) ER Peloton25 09-23-2007, 11:01 PM 17R - This one used to be stored and prepared by Tom Milner's company, PTG Racing, in Winchester, Virginia for BMW USA. I am not sure where it lives now that PTG has severed their ties with BMW and is no longer campaiging BMWs in any racing series, however, I am sure it is still around. I think the most recent sighting was at an event in Canada and prior to that it appeared at the 2007 Amelia Island Concours in Florida held in March. I'll have to ask Stephan Bauer what event the car was at in Canada next time I see him online - maybe it wasn't even Canada. Found out from Stephan that #17R appeared in downtown Montreal at a BMW exhibition during the weekend of the 2007 Canadian Formula One Grand Prix in June. His photos appear on this SC.net page for those who had not seen them: http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/1387/3.html >8^) ER hurstg01 09-24-2007, 06:14 AM Updated with pics and info from Erik's posts; I'll add different / larger / clearer pics when I have more time Peloton25 09-24-2007, 11:20 AM There were two longtail GTRs that wore the LARK livery in 1997. It's not always obvious that there were two, as both cars wore race number 44 in the two different events they competed in. Chassis #27R wore it at the 1997 24 Hrs of LeMans. Drivers were Keiichi Tsuchiya, Akahiko Nakaya and Gary Ayles. The car did 88 laps and failed to finish. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_FGT97036.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/FGT97036.jpg) Chassis #19R wore it at the Pokka Suzuka 1000km race on August 24th 1997. The car was entered by Team Lark McLaren & Team Goh with Keiichi Tsuchiya, Masanori Sekiya, Akihiko Nakaya doing the driving. They finished 9th overall. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_B000997.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/B000997.jpg) The easiest way to spot the difference in photos is that tobacco advertising in motorsports had been banned by 1997 in Japan, so 19R featured a lined out (or in some instances, blocked out) LARK logo instead. Also, at LeMans 27R had a "Warsteiner" windshield banner and race number decals, with "BMW Japan" on the rear wing. At Suzuka 19R's windshield banner said "BMW Japan" the race number decals were plain and the top of the wing was blank. EDIT: This post is not my best work - see below for clarification. :) >8^) ER hurstg01 09-24-2007, 11:42 AM There were two longtail GTRs that wore the LARK livery in 1997. It's not always obvious that there were two, as both cars wore race number 44 in the two different events they competed in. Chassis #27R wore it at the 1997 24 Hrs of LeMans. Drivers were Keiichi Tsuchiya, Akahiko Nakaya and Gary Ayles. The car did 88 laps and failed to finish. Chassis #19R wore it at the Pokka Suzuka 1000km race on August 24th 1997. The car was entered by Team Lark McLaren & Team Goh with Keiichi Tsuchiya, Masanori Sekiya, Akihiko Nakaya doing the driving. They finished 9th overall. >8^) ER I never knew that; I'll now have to spend the rest of my evening sorting out my #19R folder :p Le Man 09-24-2007, 11:52 AM Erik, I think you have managed to confuse yourself :rolleyes: , with the 97 Lark chassis,s. Check again :grinyes: Peloton25 09-24-2007, 11:57 AM Gah! I do have it backwards... :banghead: That's what I get for posting while sleeping. Have I mentioned I am not a morning person... :uhoh: Okay - take everything I wrote about the descriptions of the cars and reverse it. Clean LARK logo in Japan on 19R, messy one at LeMans on 27R. All better...? :lol: >8^) ER hurstg01 09-24-2007, 12:40 PM Okay - take everything I wrote about the descriptions of the cars and reverse it. Clean LARK logo in Japan on 19R, messy one at LeMans on 27R. All better...? :lol: >8^) ER And back the files go :);):)....Nah, some were indeed misplaced in my folders, although :cheers: for the clarification you 2! cabrio92 09-25-2007, 11:45 AM Hello, first, I am sincerely impressed by this topic Greg :) I thank you to put this one up. I would like to add #05R has Cesar livery and was last seen on Castellet this year. I am not convinced on #14R and #15R, I think there is a good story about these cars. Remember an orange GTR was seen on A7 in France toward the souththis year... Second, Carbuilder, I expect you will realize your dream. We are with you :) Phil hurstg01 09-25-2007, 12:05 PM Hello, first, I am sincerely impressed by this topic Greg :) I thank you to put this one up. Cheers Phil, its been kind of a joint effort with all the knowledge gleaned off this forum over the years I would like to add #05R has Cesar livery and was last seen on Castellet this year. All updated :cheers: I am not convinced on #14R and #15R, I think there is a good story about these cars. Remember an orange GTR was seen on A7 in France toward the south this year... Were there any pics of this latest sighting :begs:? I really don't think we will know for sure until we see at least 1 of the chassis plates, but it's good to guess ;) Peloton25 09-26-2007, 02:37 AM Variations on the Davidoff theme with 22R. I figured you might want to include one of each of these, as you captured the multiple variations of #03R's West livery. This was 22R at LeMans Pre-Qualifying in 1998. It competed in the Loctite livery, but wore essentially a blank version of the Davidoff livery for Pre-Qualifying. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_d98mcl3_L.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/d98mcl3_L.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_lmp98411.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/lmp98411.jpg) I see you have the "Day Off" version of it's primary livery in 1998, but here's some examples of the unaltered "Davidoff" cigarette branding. Some are good pictures, but none are great representations of the livery per se. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_davidoff_b-1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/davidoff_b-1.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_dav9888sb.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/dav9888sb.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_dav98117fo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/dav98117fo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_car4.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/car4.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_6-30.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/6-30.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/th_A1-Ring-1998-09-20-015.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/A1-Ring-1998-09-20-015.jpg) I'll keep looking... and continue trying to pay attention when I do. :wink: >8^) ER hurstg01 09-26-2007, 06:55 AM Variations on the Davidoff theme with 22R >8^) ER All added :cheers: Le Man 09-26-2007, 02:53 PM Greg, 24R needs Fina/BMW motorsport and Gulf liveries adding. I do some more checks later, threads great..... :smokin: hurstg01 09-26-2007, 03:03 PM Greg, 24R needs Fina/BMW motorsport and Gulf liveries adding. I didn't have any pics in my #24R folder with these 2 liveries, but after you posted this I did a search on motorsport.com, and saw #24R ran as number 42 (perhaps I thought it to be chassis #26?) at Le Mans with Soper, Piquet and Llehto, tallying up with what is on QV500. I also found the Davidoff / Day Off / Gulf liveried #24R on racingsportscars.com; again I thought this to be another chassis. Cheers for that, I'll add those pics now ...threads great..... :smokin: Cheers Le Man!!! Le Man 10-03-2007, 03:07 PM Another angle on 08R... Paul Ricard 96. http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/337802/maclarengulfblanche%20(1).jpg Check this link out for some more GTR pics. 96/97 spa. http://www.race-week-end.be/pages/archives.php hurstg01 10-04-2007, 12:22 PM ^^ good find :thumbsup: cabrio92 10-12-2007, 04:53 AM Hello, 24R was last seen yesterday at Magny-Cours :) A question too, which GTR owns Rowan Atkinson ? Phil hurstg01 10-12-2007, 05:39 AM A question too, which GTR owns Rowan Atkinson ? Phil Hi Phil It was thought that Rowan purchased #24R, and minimagic's pic sort of shows that (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bruntingthorpe41ph7.jpg), but as you know it's now owned by Paul Knapfield, so as far as I am aware he only owns his road going F1 Le Man 11-27-2007, 02:54 PM Another BMW livery to add Greg, Not sure of the chassis # :shakehead (YES THATS CORRECT, EVEN I DON,T KNOW) this is only the second pic of this 96 GTR I have seen. Very similar to BMW,s 95 (end of) promo chassis 08R, so it is pos, 16 17 or 18 R. The pic may have been taken on the BMW, Geneva motor show stand early 96. If you look to the rear of the GTR, there is also an F1 engine on display. http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/315954/S96E05.jpg hurstg01 11-28-2007, 03:11 PM I'll add it on the proviso you also show us the other shot you have ;) Le Man 11-28-2007, 03:23 PM I'll add it on the proviso you also show us the other shot you have ;) This one!! http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8922/sanstitre17aela5.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanstitre17aela5.jpg) Perhaps Erik, can shed more light on this display. :) hurstg01 11-28-2007, 04:24 PM Ah, had that one in my [too large] 'unassigned GTR' folder - now joined by your 1st pic. :cheers: Peloton25 11-29-2007, 12:25 PM Perhaps Erik, can shed more light on this display. :) Only a little... :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/mclv12GTR.jpg I'd like to call it #18R if I had to guess, but when it raced in the Hollywood livery in Brazil it had flush headlamps and the extra scoop over the roof vent. Neither of those things would be difficult to add or remove, but who knows... :dunno: I have a feeling that some of these McLaren questions we come up with could only be answered after someone perfects time travel. >8^) ER mr bridger 12-03-2007, 10:27 AM 18R has British/France flags on rear body sides with red flag flash over centre. http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1323/p7070039vo1.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7070039vo1.jpg) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7379/45693063arr4.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=45693063arr4.jpg) 17R has American flag on rear body sides with blue flag flash over centre. http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2656/untitled7zk3.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled7zk3.png) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5972/88222743cd2.th.png (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=88222743cd2.png) Ignore the 39 race number!!hi Le Man, 016R also had british & french flags on it to signify soper & laffite as drivers at le mans in 96, the usa flag on 017R was for sullivan i understand, Mr B. ps/ 016R ran with race no"s 24 & 38 (silverstone & le mans 1996) hurstg01 12-03-2007, 01:34 PM ps/ 016R ran with race no"s 24 & 38 (silverstone & le mans 1996) http://img162.imagevenue.com/loc1002/th_06791_016R_122_1002lo.jpg (http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=06791_016R_122_1002lo.jpg) http://img107.imagevenue.com/loc885/th_06808_016R_Le_Mans_96-1_122_885lo.jpg (http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=06808_016R_Le_Mans_96-1_122_885lo.jpg) Cheers for the info Mr B; I wondered why they had different flags on their rear haunches Le Man 12-03-2007, 04:46 PM hi Le Man, 016R also had british & french flags on it to signify soper & laffite as drivers at le mans in 96, the usa flag on 017R was for sullivan i understand, Mr B. ps/ 016R ran with race no"s 24 & 38 (silverstone & le mans 1996) Hi Mr Bridger, Many thanks for your added info, the reasoning for only posting pics of 17R and 18R, was to show Greg the colour schemes that they are currently displayed with, at this moment in time. Talking of your chassis 16R, I have some action pics, of which I shall post soon. PS. please let me know if and when, you would like to take over the quiz :wink: (with rewards) :evillol: Hi Erik, Many thanks for your additional pic of the 96 BMW promo GTR :cheers: roger_ph 12-04-2007, 05:54 AM hi Le Man, 016R also had british & french flags on it to signify soper & laffite as drivers at le mans in 96, the usa flag on 017R was for sullivan i understand, Mr B. ps/ 016R ran with race no"s 24 & 38 (silverstone & le mans 1996) Hi Mr. Bridger, How do you like these? http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc529/th_65349_1_122_529lo.JPG (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65349_1_122_529lo.JPG) http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc186/th_65350_2_122_186lo.JPG (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65350_2_122_186lo.JPG) I took them back in 1996 at the "Essen-Motorshow" in Germany. Roger mr bridger 12-04-2007, 06:15 AM Hi Mr Bridger, Many thanks for your added info, the reasoning for only posting pics of 17R and 18R, was to show Greg the colour schemes that they are currently displayed with, at this moment in time. Talking of your chassis 16R, I have some action pics, of which I shall post soon. PS. please let me know if and when, you would like to take over the quiz :wink: (with rewards) :evillol: Hi Erik, Many thanks for your additional pic of the 96 BMW promo GTR :cheers:hello Le Man, as you are doing such a wonderfull job with the quiz i think it only fair you should continue with it this year (a.k.a. your Q"s are too hard for me!!) i look forward to seeing the pics, thanks, Mr B. mr bridger 12-04-2007, 06:17 AM Hi Mr. Bridger, How do you like these? http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc529/th_65349_1_122_529lo.JPG (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65349_1_122_529lo.JPG) http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc186/th_65350_2_122_186lo.JPG (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65350_2_122_186lo.JPG) I took them back in 1996 at the "Essen-Motorshow" in Germany. Rogerhello Roger, excellent pics, many thanks, Mr B. Le Man 12-04-2007, 02:54 PM hello Le Man, as you are doing such a wonderfull job with the quiz i think it only fair you should continue with it this year (a.k.a. your Q"s are too hard for me!!) i look forward to seeing the pics, thanks, Mr B. Hi Mr Bridger, What do you mean, the Q"s are to hard for you. You have a tape measure and an F1 GTR :) (even you, will enjoy reading the prize thats on offer :popcorn:) roger_ph 12-06-2007, 05:17 AM hello Roger, excellent pics, many thanks, Mr B. ... and here you have a sheet of a 1997 BMW calendar: http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc650/th_36153_P1010172k_122_650lo.JPG (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36153_P1010172k_122_650lo.JPG) Roger Le Man 12-06-2007, 09:26 AM Pics as promissed Mr B, Silverstone 96. http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8463/88437142jb5.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=88437142jb5.jpg) http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1885/89998391pe0.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=89998391pe0.jpg) .................................................. ................................ Leman test week 96...... Just to confuse the issue of race no,s. Check these two pics out. The race no,s are reversed :screwy: http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5411/78065711ij6.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=78065711ij6.jpg) http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/695/57146182wu7.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=57146182wu7.jpg) .................................................. ................................ Leman 96....#16R in action. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5960/10218217sr5.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10218217sr5.jpg) http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8026/56364300og6.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56364300og6.jpg) and one from the motorshow NEC 96. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1354/80798796bi3.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=80798796bi3.jpg) If I find some more race pics. I,ll post them up. (All pics courtesy Autosport magazine) mr bridger 12-07-2007, 06:22 AM Roger & Le Mans, excellent pics, many thanks, Mr B. PatrickT82 12-07-2007, 02:47 PM could there be a chance there will show up an F1 GTR at the Autosport International show in Birmingham next month?? anyone ha sinfo? hurstg01 12-07-2007, 03:03 PM Just found this Patrick - "All categories of track and off-road motor racing are represented, including - Formula 1 and other national and international single seater series such as GP2, A1GP, Formula 3000 and manufacturer formulas - World Rally Championship and other rally series - Production car-based racing categories such as GTs and Touring Cars - Drift series such as EDC and D1GP - Tuned car series such as Time Attack - Oval and stock car racing such as Hot Rods, BriSCA F1 stock cars and Super Silhuettes among others - Historic car racing series such as Top Hat and Group C/GTP - And karting, in the form of the Karting Show, representing top kart manufacturers, accessory retailers and race organisers all on hand to give advice on how to start kart racing!" Hopefully this means the F1 will be there too, but I can't see anywhere a displayer list PatrickT82 12-08-2007, 12:26 PM hmm there is also the Pistonheads Performance car show as well. Maybe worth a trip to the UK again:) hurstg01 12-12-2007, 02:59 AM Updated to show #13R now in the UK (for the moment) ;) mini magic 12-12-2007, 12:33 PM 002R is sleeping in the UK ;) hurstg01 12-12-2007, 01:16 PM 002R is sleeping in the UK ;) You obviously know more than you are letting on, so are you able to tell us or do we have to guess? Is it at Lanzante's [that's where I last heard it was] or elsewhere, what livery is it in, and do you have any pics to share.... mini magic 12-12-2007, 02:57 PM Its in the blue/yellow livery. As of last year it was in a warehouse near where i used to live, i'm not sure if its related to Lanzante or not. I was working on pics but i don't think thats gonna happen now. Of course, it could have moved since then hurstg01 12-12-2007, 03:02 PM In the blue and yellow livery? That's a shame - Id've loved to have seen it in the Lloyds livery. I heard it was at Lanzantes through a chance meeting yesterday, although the guy who should have known alot about Mclarens either was being cagey to protect identites or didn't actually know what he should have! Good to hear your info though :thumbsup: mini magic 12-12-2007, 03:53 PM Maybe its moved? I heard that info about a year ago roger_ph 12-20-2007, 05:47 AM Here you have an article of a German car magazine: http://img201.imagevenue.com/loc42/th_47145_P1010199_122_42lo.JPG (http://img201.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47145_P1010199_122_42lo.JPG)http://img197.imagevenue.com/loc558/th_47155_P1010201_122_558lo.JPG (http://img197.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47155_P1010201_122_558lo.JPG)http://img121.imagevenue.com/loc991/th_47162_P1010203_122_991lo.JPG (http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47162_P1010203_122_991lo.JPG)http://img150.imagevenue.com/loc677/th_47170_P1010204_122_677lo.JPG (http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47170_P1010204_122_677lo.JPG) Roger Le Man 12-20-2007, 03:59 PM Here you have an article of a German car magazine: http://img201.imagevenue.com/loc42/th_47145_P1010199_122_42lo.JPG (http://img201.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47145_P1010199_122_42lo.JPG)http://img197.imagevenue.com/loc558/th_47155_P1010201_122_558lo.JPG (http://img197.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47155_P1010201_122_558lo.JPG)http://img121.imagevenue.com/loc991/th_47162_P1010203_122_991lo.JPG (http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47162_P1010203_122_991lo.JPG)http://img150.imagevenue.com/loc677/th_47170_P1010204_122_677lo.JPG (http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47170_P1010204_122_677lo.JPG) Roger Excellent find Roger :cheers: Merry Xmas. PatrickT82 12-22-2007, 12:30 PM new schedule for GT90's Revival for 2008! http://www.gt90s-revival.com/docs/2008_Provisionnal_Calendar.pdf Could we see more F1's. I hope Spa and Hockenheim will go through:) Le Man 01-15-2008, 04:31 PM This interesting article from www.sportscarpros.com (http://www.sportscarpros.com) was brought to my attention, via my brother Derek. Go straight to this link. http://www.sportscarpros.com/notes-from-the-cellar-features-by-john-brooks/features/electrical-banana/default.htm We may be hearing, a little more about this short trip soon :licka: http://www.sportscarpros.com/images/0389/unobtanium-1.jpg (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/) Ace pic from John Brooks :thumbsup:.......(strange copyright year though, must be a typo) hurstg01 01-15-2008, 04:57 PM Looks like Lanzantes had a day trip! That pic reminds me, I was passed these a while ago from a good friend and was waiting for the right thread to add them to - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/GULFF1PLUSHARRODS.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/GULFF1inLanzantes.jpg I'll hopefully get some more in the near future cabrio92 01-16-2008, 07:32 AM Hi, thanks lermans and Greg, what amazing stuff ! Which chassis is the black one ? I have impression to know it. Phil cabrio92 01-16-2008, 07:39 AM Hmm, reading that, I understand this F1 goes to LA and I think at this man on FChat who purchased an f1... Phil hurstg01 01-16-2008, 08:05 AM Hi, thanks lermans and Greg, what amazing stuff ! Which chassis is the black one ? I have impression to know it. Phil Hi Phil The black one is chassis #069, the ex-James Munroe F1 Hmm, reading that, I understand this F1 goes to LA and I think at this man on FChat who purchased an f1... Phil Aaron Hsu owns both those cars in Le Mans' picture, and I believe he keeps his collection in Connecticut (sp?) although the 2 F1's have been in Hampshire, UK, for a while now. Can you send a link off Fchat with regards to the guy who purchased an F1 (#014?) cabrio92 01-16-2008, 09:45 AM Thanks Greg, The guy in question told some months ago he purchased an F1 and wanted a flat black paint. I have not the thread there but he bought a F40 at Beverly Hills when he was 18 ! Phil PS : in the article, I red LAX, it's the airport ? hurstg01 01-16-2008, 10:05 AM Thanks Greg, The guy in question told some months ago he purchased an F1 and wanted a flat black paint. I have not the thread there but he bought a F40 at Beverly Hills when he was 18 ! Phil PS : in the article, I red LAX, it's the airport ? LAX is the 'code' for Los Angeles airport, just as LHR is for London Heathrow. I read on SC.net a while ago that a matt/flat black F1 was due to be delivered after the refit here in the UK, and IIRC I added it on here too. Could be the same guy? Also it sounds like the guy who bought and refitted #014 from Yellow to White with the HDF kit....? cabrio92 01-16-2008, 10:41 AM Hi, I know what LAX means. The cars of Hsu are located in East America, so why LAX ? #069 was last modified when ? Phil hurstg01 01-16-2008, 10:46 AM Hi, I know what LAX means. The cars of Hsu are located in East America, so why LAX ? #069 was last modified when ? PhilHi Phil Here (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=109631) is the SCnet link and here (http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128246&page=4) is the thread on Fchat about it Have you got the Fchat link you are referring to? cabrio92 01-21-2008, 07:25 AM Hi, Ok Greg, i don't find more pics of this duo ? Phil cabrio92 01-21-2008, 07:29 AM These two links refer to the same thread :( Phil hurstg01 01-21-2008, 07:50 AM Hi Phil Sorry, I've changed the Fchat link now. I am waiting for my friend (who sent me those 2 F1 pictures posted recently) to see what he sends me by email Le Man 01-21-2008, 03:13 PM 16R Seen at Silverstone last year!!........Looks absolutely stunning. A credit to Mr B, for keeping his GTR in tip top condition. http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8895/16rbic3.th.png (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16rbic3.png) http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1565/16rdyx9.th.png (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16rdyx9.png) http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1472/16reht6.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16reht6.png) http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1754/16rcto0.th.png (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16rcto0.png) (clickable) Not my pics btw. PatrickT82 01-23-2008, 02:31 PM I really hope to see it in 2008! BRX880 01-25-2008, 03:29 AM A video of a Long Tail Fina GTR can be seen here: http://www.autozeitung.de/online/index.php?render=66343 Just pure sound... :) cabrio92 01-26-2008, 03:56 AM Thanks for these shots, i definitely love the third pic ! amazing ! Phil PatrickT82 01-29-2008, 01:15 PM btw: at what race or show was it at Silverstone?? hurstg01 01-29-2008, 01:18 PM ^ It was at the Goodwood FOS in the BMW tent - when I missed it :banghead: PatrickT82 01-31-2008, 03:18 PM huh what year was it in Goodwood? and can anyone answer my question at what event it was in Silverstone please? hurstg01 01-31-2008, 04:00 PM You weren't taking about #047? If you quote the post you are replying to in your post it may make the answer easier to come by. Do you mean #16R, #047 or the longtail GTR in BRX880's post? PatrickT82 02-01-2008, 01:34 PM Mr Bridgers car at Silverstone: what event;-) Le Man 02-04-2008, 04:33 AM Mr Bridgers car at Silverstone: what event;-) Patrick, PM Mr Bridger. I,m sure he will answer your question. hurstg01 02-06-2008, 05:11 PM It was at the Silverstone Raceday, 28th July 2007 (http://flickr.com/photos/17006278@N00/sets/72157601064016689/with/2247066912/)- http://img230.imagevenue.com/loc401/th_35863_2247066912_f558043075_b_122_401lo.jpg (http://img230.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=35863_2247066912_f558043075_b_122_40 1lo.jpg) diecastmaniac1994 02-26-2008, 08:22 PM I was flipping through one of my dads magazines today and i saw an article about 'Cars International Kensington', there was a very small photo of what looked like a car storage room, and underneath a car lift was a Papaya Orange longtail GTR with a plate that read 'CIA 4' i assume it is #27R, the magazine is dated April 2007 so it might have been moved by now. The photo was much to small to be worth scanning and i could barely read the plate. Just to clear things up, from some sources i have heard that the car is owned by james munroe a european accountant (specifficaly 'the cars the star part 4' YouTube) does he still own it, what are its whearabouts??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: diecastmaniac1994 02-26-2008, 08:41 PM Im not sure if this has been mentioned before but heres a link to an article that includes what im pretty sure is Nick Masons #10R http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124232 hurstg01 02-27-2008, 03:24 AM Im not sure if this has been mentioned before but heres a link to an article that includes what im pretty sure is Nick Masons #10R http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124232 Good find, and great pics!! I wonder why they didn't use Mason's F40 (F40NPG) in the article? hurstg01 02-27-2008, 03:54 AM I was flipping through one of my dads magazines today and i saw an article about 'Cars International Kensington', there was a very small photo of what looked like a car storage room, and underneath a car lift was a Papaya Orange longtail GTR with a plate that read 'CIA 4' i assume it is #27R, the magazine is dated April 2007 so it might have been moved by now. The photo was much to small to be worth scanning and i could barely read the plate. Just to clear things up, from some sources i have heard that the car is owned by james munroe a european accountant (specifficaly 'the cars the star part 4' YouTube) does he still own it, what are its whearabouts??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: James Munroe did own the car, but due to being a crook (aka pilfering accountant) he shouldn't really have owned it (:)). Countachal and myself went to the opening night of the Showroom back in Jan07 and took some photos of the car that can be found in this thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=667870). It hasn't been seen for a while though, but it may be in their Workshop / Garage down the M4 Bigazzi 04-01-2008, 09:01 AM Another BMW livery to add Greg, Not sure of the chassis # :shakehead (YES THATS CORRECT, EVEN I DON,T KNOW) this is only the second pic of this 96 GTR I have seen. Very similar to BMW,s 95 (end of) promo chassis 08R, so it is pos, 16 17 or 18 R. The pic may have been taken on the BMW, Geneva motor show stand early 96. If you look to the rear of the GTR, there is also an F1 engine on display. http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/315954/S96E05.jpg Nope that was in Paris Motorshow. FYI a second Bigazzi car (this of Laffite LM 96) was on display in another all the same year. hurstg01 04-10-2008, 07:08 AM I have just had these camera phone pics sent to me of #06R in action on the A3 :thumbsup: http://img143.imagevenue.com/loc717/th_94899_untitled12_122_717lo.JPG (http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=94899_untitled12_122_717lo.JPG) http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc556/th_94906_untitled11_122_556lo.JPG (http://img225.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_94906_untitled11_122_556lo.JPG) http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc377/th_94907_untitled10_122_377lo.JPG (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=94907_untitled10_122_377lo.JPG) hurstg01 05-28-2008, 01:02 PM Anyone know where #03R had an outing recently? http://img46.imagevenue.com/loc414/th_93945_2528733131_cbdd4664c8_o_122_414lo.jpg (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93945_2528733131_cbdd4664c8_o_122_41 4lo.jpg) The info on this picture states it was taken between 29th March 2005 and the present day..... Le Man 05-28-2008, 02:14 PM Anyone know where #03R had an outing recently? http://img46.imagevenue.com/loc414/th_93945_2528733131_cbdd4664c8_o_122_414lo.jpg (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93945_2528733131_cbdd4664c8_o_122_41 4lo.jpg) The info on this picture states it was taken between 29th March 2005 and the present day..... Greg, Thats an early 95 pic..........Try Donington, BPR series. hurstg01 05-28-2008, 03:03 PM Could be ;) Le Man 07-02-2008, 02:29 PM At long last. A follow up story, from earlier this year on www.sportscarpros.com (http://www.sportscarpros.com) by Lizett Bond. Women know how to keep us men waiting, but we shall forgive her :wink: (I,ve allways got a soft spot for an attractive women) :banghead: . http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/2346/filename2861qc7.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=filename2861qc7.jpg) Lizett,s full story here, http://www.sportscarpros.com/across-the-border-features-from-guests/features/the-mclaren-of-jane-austen-or-the-pie-the-bull-and-other-things/default.htm Nice to read that she likes a good English pub. :cheers: hurstg01 07-02-2008, 02:33 PM I was just loading all the pics up on Imagevenue - good work Martin, beat me to it ! :) It's always good to see GTR's on UK roads :) but on the A31, In my neck of the woods !! :banghead: http://img197.imagevenue.com/loc462/th_23632_filename-2851_122_462lo.jpg (http://img197.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=23632_filename-2851_122_462lo.jpg) http://img21.imagevenue.com/loc1032/th_23639_filename-2852_122_1032lo.jpg (http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=23639_filename-2852_122_1032lo.jpg) http://img149.imagevenue.com/loc830/th_23644_filename-2854_122_830lo.jpg (http://img149.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=23644_filename-2854_122_830lo.jpg)http://img161.imagevenue.com/loc993/th_23653_filename-2859_122_993lo.jpg (http://img161.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=23653_filename-2859_122_993lo.jpg) http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc158/th_23660_filename-2861_122_158lo.jpg (http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=23660_filename-2861_122_158lo.jpg) http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc547/th_23670_filename-2862_122_547lo.jpg (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=23670_filename-2862_122_547lo.jpg) http://img201.imagevenue.com/loc135/th_23681_filename-2863_122_135lo.jpg (http://img201.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=23681_filename-2863_122_135lo.jpg) Wonder why there was a gratuitious shot of #061 there too? Just to show she has gotten up close and personal to 3 F1's? lucky lady.... http://img173.imagevenue.com/loc712/th_24229_filename-2846_122_712lo.jpg (http://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=24229_filename-2846_122_712lo.jpg) Peloton25 07-02-2008, 02:36 PM That's pretty funny - I just sent an email two days ago asking when we might see the content. I didn't get a reply, but this works too. :) >8^) ER hurstg01 08-09-2008, 03:44 PM #07R could be in Hampshire, UK, as this pic was taken by a guy based in Basingstoke through the course of his work http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc616/th_11095_Picture117_122_616lo.jpg (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=11095_Picture117_122_616lo.jpg) Le Man 08-09-2008, 04:12 PM #07R could be in Hampshire, UK, as this pic was taken by a guy based in Basingstoke through the course of his work http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc616/th_11095_Picture117_122_616lo.jpg (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=11095_Picture117_122_616lo.jpg) Oakfields. But not for sale!! (based on last info) hurstg01 08-09-2008, 04:55 PM Just for storage? It's not listed on their website, but is shown on their website in small pictures carbuilder2002 08-09-2008, 05:17 PM Interesting picture, it still retains the nacca ducts on the front body section. It was my belief that they were all modified to have them removed. Can anyone comment. mini magic 08-09-2008, 05:23 PM Just for storage? It's not listed on their website, but is shown on their website in small pictures I took the pic that they are using on their website hurstg01 08-10-2008, 02:44 AM I took the pic that they are using on their website :thumbsup: Can you post the larger size? Tmpst 11-05-2008, 10:28 AM if anyone knows where a certain GTR was last seen, please let me know and I'll update it. Stroll's GTR #23r was again raced at the Fall Classic at Circuit Tremblant on Sept 20. Stroll, by the way, owns the track. Stroll placed second in the race, behind a 2008 Stohr wf1. You can see the results here: http://www.lecircuit.com/eventDocuments/Sep.%2020%20-%20GT%20Challenge%20C1.pdf Stroll did not contest the second GT race of the weekend on the 21st. You can just barely see the GTR as the second car from the front at the beginning of this video: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Lachute-Performance-08_188402.htm Sadly the GTR drives away from the Subaru from which the video was taken. This race was actually part of the Quebec GT series, although many racers (such as Stroll) contest only the fall classic. Pilon, the driver of the Subaru, won the championship by finishing third behind the GTR (way behind). There are numerous pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/f1design/page4/ (not my own, sorry) payso 11-05-2008, 11:14 AM http://i33.tinypic.com/in6dfd_th.jpg (http://i33.tinypic.com/in6dfd.jpg) clicky (http://i33.tinypic.com/in6dfd.jpg):biggrin: (http://i33.tinypic.com/in6dfd.jpg) found on flickr hurstg01 11-05-2008, 01:27 PM nice finds Tmpst and Payso! WaZzZuPpP 11-07-2008, 05:35 PM #27r, pic taken march, 08 http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2383/27r104ax2.th.jpg (http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27r104ax2.jpg)http://img49.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) and two more, where its is only partly seen: here (http://www.thecartorialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cars_international.jpg) and here (http://www.carmovies.net/gallery/albums/carsint/jordan_f1.jpg) F1GTRUeno 11-08-2008, 07:12 PM Such a shame 27R wasn't bought by someone for use in the GT90s series. Was it a LARK car? hurstg01 11-09-2008, 03:52 AM Such a shame 27R wasn't bought by someone for use in the GT90s series. Was it a LARK car? See here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=707200) for the livery of #27R, amongst all the rest Sami Aaltonen 12-13-2008, 02:23 PM I'm a new member at this forum. And I'm a Finnish..... I have been F1/LM/GT/GTR fan as long as the McLaren F1 roadcar had it's first public show over 13 years ago. And then came the GTR...and The LeMans 1995. And then here at Finland, Helsinki the GT race 1997 and we saw here the Longtail versions of this GTR McLaren. I will never forget it what I saw and heard that day. And right now I just want to say, how glad I am to read this information of the LeMans Winner 1995 cars fate. I really believed that the car has been overpainted at Orange and it has came the LM version some where in the world these days. Fortunately NOT! Thank you so much these many pics and stories trought the forum, that I have been read and wachted this evening and been more than glad that the winner car has been kept it's orginal race paintings! I never wanted to believe that McLaren could overpaint that car, which has so great history and which will always remembered at GTR's greatest win. And history has always been important to McLaren. And I just feel, that the McLaren F1 GTR's doesn't have so much information at the Internet that many us, fans, could hope. So this forum really saved the day! But still now when I think that here is some one who could answer at this question, I try my luck. Back over 10 years ago, 1996 we had here at Finland, Helsinki Motor Show. There was one car, what got all my respect. I was only 16 years an old, but I knew what I saw that day. Finnish driver JJ Lehto and his team mates had taken the historic win at LeMans just ear before......1995. I still had the pics safe place at my home and I know, and I know how rare pics these are today. But anyway, the show year was 1996 so I think that the viewed McLaren F1 GTR model year was 1996. It also could be 1995. It was of course a short tail version and it was FINA BMW colors. Th racenumber in the door was 38. And the drivers writen on the door: Jacques Laffite, Steve Soper ja Marc Duez. So the question is, that what was the chasis number and what was the car's model, 1995 or 1996? And were this car is today?! I found in the Internet some shots, which would expect this car been 1996, but was it?! I'm very greatfull about this information! I know that this thread is quite old one, but still I wanted to write, even my writing is not perfect. Thank you for your time. hurstg01 12-13-2008, 02:37 PM Welcome :wave: and your English is even better than some of us who speak it as our first language :) Le Man 12-13-2008, 05:09 PM I'm a new member at this forum. And I'm a Finnish..... But still now when I think that here is some one who could answer at this question, I try my luck. Back over 10 years ago, 1996 we had here at Finland, Helsinki Motor Show. There was one car, what got all my respect. I was only 16 years an old, but I knew what I saw that day. Finnish driver JJ Lehto and his team mates had taken the historic win at LeMans just ear before......1995. I still had the pics safe place at my home and I know, and I know how rare pics these are today. But anyway, the show year was 1996 so I think that the viewed McLaren F1 GTR model year was 1996. It also could be 1995. It was of course a short tail version and it was FINA BMW colors. Th racenumber in the door was 38. And the drivers writen on the door: Jacques Laffite, Steve Soper ja Marc Duez. So the question is, that what was the chasis number and what was the car's model, 1995 or 1996? And were this car is today?! I found in the Internet some shots, which would expect this car been 1996, but was it?! I'm very greatfull about this information Hi Sami, Welcome to the forum, If you have any rare photos you took of the F1 GTR,s please post. The GTR you saw at the Helsinki motor show was probably #16R, which was one of three chassis campained by BMW Motorsport in 1996. This GTR is currently for sale at DK Engineering and for the last few years has been in the ownership of "Mr Bridger", who frequents this forum now and again :smile: Peloton25 12-14-2008, 05:01 AM 16R would be the most likely chassis from my perspective as well, based on your description. There were some other FINA liveried GTRs used in promotional displays, but they were the slightly different than the ones which were raced, and commonly referred to as the FINA Presentation livery. The reference shots I have of them either did not have a race number affixed or wore the number "1" which has no relation to any real racing event with that livery. In my image archive I have what appear to be four different display venues featuring what should in all likelyhood be #16R wearing race number 38, so it seems that it was the other one used for some of the promotional work. Perhaps one of these images below matches the setting you recall? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_23318068sbgnZGMIUE_ph.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=23318068sbgnZGMIUE_ph.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_23318075IKOmlceVmA_ph.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=23318075IKOmlceVmA_ph.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_65349_1_122_529lo.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=65349_1_122_529lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_65350_2_122_186lo.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=65350_2_122_186lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_80798796bi3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=80798796bi3.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_Mondial012.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=Mondial012.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_Mondial021.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=Mondial021.jpg) The final pairing has "Mondial" in the filename, which I believe would refer to the Paris motorshow. Anyway - welcome to the forum Sami. Great to have another McLaren enthusiast find their way here. :cool: This is without a doubt the most knowledgeable and passionate group you'll find on the web associated with the F1 so you should certainly enjoy your stay. If there is something we don't know about the cars, then it's generally still a mystery or just not public knowledge. We do learn new things from time to time and this place still manages to hold my interest after almost 6 years or so. >8^) ER Sami Aaltonen 12-14-2008, 09:45 AM Hi Sami, Welcome to the forum, If you have any rare photos you took of the F1 GTR,s please post. The GTR you saw at the Helsinki motor show was probably #16R, which was one of three chassis campained by BMW Motorsport in 1996. This GTR is currently for sale at DK Engineering and for the last few years has been in the ownership of "Mr Bridger", who frequents this forum now and again :smile: Thanks for the friendlynes for all of you! Yes, I've been working on it, to get those film pics at digital shape. I will do that when I just have time. Please be patient. But I will put the pics here, as soon as I just can. Really superb to know the chasis number and the year model. Great! Thanks for this information! I thought that it most likely is 1996, but I wasn't sure so I wanted to check that. Thank you!! Sami Aaltonen 12-14-2008, 10:03 AM 16R would be the most likely chassis from my perspective as well, based on your description. There were some other FINA liveried GTRs used in promotional displays, but they were the slightly different than the ones which were raced, and commonly referred to as the FINA Presentation livery. The reference shots I have of them either did not have a race number affixed or wore the number "1" which has no relation to any real racing event with that livery. In my image archive I have what appear to be four different display venues featuring what should in all likelyhood be #16R wearing race number 38, so it seems that it was the other one used for some of the promotional work. Perhaps one of these images below matches the setting you recall? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/th_65349_1_122_529lo.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20G/?action=view¤t=65349_1_122_529lo.jpg) The final pairing has "Mondial" in the filename, which I believe would refer to the Paris motorshow. Anyway - welcome to the forum Sami. Great to have another McLaren enthusiast find their way here. :cool: This is without a doubt the most knowledgeable and passionate group you'll find on the web associated with the F1 so you should certainly enjoy your stay. If there is something we don't know about the cars, then it's generally still a mystery or just not public knowledge. We do learn new things from time to time and this place still manages to hold my interest after almost 6 years or so. >8^) ER Stunning! Yes! Yes! I'm almoust sure that the car what was here at Finland 1996, is the same car that you have shoted at Paris! Number is same and the painting looks same. Paris motorshow, do you remember the year?!? But like I said, I will put she shots here, as soon as I can! About this McLaren F1. It's amazing, there are I think just two other cars, which had put me everytime speechless. Two of them are Lamborghini's; Coutach and Diablo. But this McLaren F1. I have loved it since it first public show. Every time when I see the pics, was it basic F1, LM or GTR or hear the sound (youtube :D ), every time I fall in love again in it. It just is something...... and back over 10 years ago at Helsinki; when I heard and saw the Longtail GTR..... WOH. Just can't find the words when I first time heard that GTR's V12 shouting. Stunning! Specialetly this video is just....stunning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1KmxJ6Daic&feature=related Does anyone know this show more..?! And I must tell you all, I have collect some scale models about this McLaren F1. Even these one's are quite difficult to get. I have silver basic F1 I think 1/43 size by Minichamps, then is (do not know the make) 1/18 size that LeMans winner GTR and this Christmas is comming 1/43 LeMans winner longside this bigger one. And then one Longtail is ofcourse; FINA BMW GTR 1997, which JJ Lehto raced it on LeMans and it has procuded IXO Models, like the smaller one LeMan winner. Still want more....... But I don't know why I have waited this over 10 years to not look any information or scale models of McLaren F1..... Why I have been so stup...... But never is too late! hurstg01 12-21-2008, 07:01 AM #07R could be in Hampshire, UK, as this pic was taken by a guy based in Basingstoke through the course of his work http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc616/th_11095_Picture117_122_616lo.jpg (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=11095_Picture117_122_616lo.jpg) And from another angle http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc847/th_60469_IMG_0928_122_847lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=60469_IMG_0928_122_847lo.jpg) guyturner 12-21-2008, 02:52 PM The photograph your friend has taken appears to be the showroom of "Oakfields" a car dealer in Hampshire (www.oakfields.com (http://www.oakfields.com)), the majority of the cars in the picture are either up for sale or have been up for sale recently with the exception of the Mclaren. It is possible that the Mclaren is stored for a client or alternatively owned by Oakfields, as an aside a picture of their showroom on there own website has the Mclaren shown although that could be out of date. LARK60 12-21-2008, 04:55 PM I recognise the showroom as Oakfields.I was allowed to veiw this GTR along side a F50gt,two of the rarest cars in the world,about three years ago.Unfortunatly the guy's there would'nt let me take any pictures,which was frustrating. This would tie in with the storage story. I told the chap there that if this was the Jacadi car,it was one of the first GTR's i ever saw,racind at Donington in 1995 Le Man 12-21-2008, 06:07 PM #07R. at Oakfields. http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5576/3304lc3.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3304lc3.jpg) http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7661/3306gr5.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3306gr5.jpg) Racing in 95. http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5414/lm4tr7.th.png (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lm4tr7.png) http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4440/lm3wh5.th.png (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lm3wh5.png) http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6369/14855274pc9.th.png (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14855274pc9.png) hurstg01 12-23-2008, 03:59 AM Looks like the nose of #03R is somewhere in a dusty garage filled with Tomcat bits and bobs somewhere in the UK ;) [pic deleted as requested] Peloton25 12-23-2008, 05:42 AM Is that a '96-spec Gulf bumper on top of it too? Looks that way to me. >8^) ER F1GTRUeno 12-23-2008, 07:43 PM So Bingo Sports has one for sale in Japan, DK Engineering have Mr. Bridgers car, 27R is at Cars International and 07R has been seen at Oakfields, all cars that could happily enter the GT90s series if bought by the right people. Any more for sale? Oh and can I have the chassis number for the Bingo Sports car? WaZzZuPpP 12-23-2008, 07:58 PM Oh and can I have the chassis number for the Bingo Sports car?#28R mini magic 12-24-2008, 11:03 AM 007R is not for sale jayfive 12-24-2008, 03:41 PM I think in 2009 we will see a lot more F1's changing hands because people will need the cash, just need to win the lottery now and should be able to pick up a nice F1 :) Le Man 12-24-2008, 04:26 PM I think in 2009 we will see a lot more F1's changing hands because people will need the cash, just need to win the lottery now and should be able to pick up a nice F1 :) Owners certainly do not need the cash, the recent influx of F1,s on the market is due to the fact, that there may be a possibility to capitalise on selling their F1 for around £2.5 million and making a tidy profit. Sami Aaltonen 01-04-2009, 03:16 AM I was reading this topic once again.:runaround: And notesed that there is a mention about #18R: "18R's last trip to Goodwood was in 2005 - I am not sure if it has been out to play since then, but I have nothing to prove that it was." But if you look this great video.... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P1KmxJ6Daic .... right to the end, you'll see the text: BMW Frankfurt 01.06.2008. So I just make sure that #018R doesn't have disappeared nowhere, still going very strong and healthy! :) Just incase that there isn't added information of this topic about #18R. If there is, sorry about my blindness. :uhoh: hurstg01 01-04-2009, 08:28 AM Cheers Sami - I've just updated the list with latest info off the top of my head; let me know if there have been more recent sightings I've missed :) Sami Aaltonen 01-04-2009, 08:45 AM Cheers Sami - I've just updated the list with latest info off the top of my head; let me know if there have been more recent sightings I've missed :) No welcome! At the momemt I don't know anything else than this one. Actually Peloton25 were mentioned this car chassis number in his Thread the bottom of the page, the "groov on" topic. :smile: I just started to think, was this allready updated or not. :popcorn: Peloton25 01-04-2009, 10:52 AM Unfortunately, many of the tracking topics are in need of various updates. I should have more free time soon and can put some effort into doing that with the best info available. >8^) ER Sami Aaltonen 01-04-2009, 02:48 PM No panic. :cool: Le Man 01-04-2009, 02:53 PM #018R Was also at Goodwood in 2006, My pics here, http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=588991&highlight=goodwood Sami Aaltonen 01-04-2009, 03:08 PM #018R Was also at Goodwood in 2006, My pics here, http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=588991&highlight=goodwood Ok! Thanks! :cheers: Great to see this car has been kept a good fine shape, whit respect! :smile: hurstg01 01-24-2009, 12:14 PM updated to show recent spot of #08R in Bahrain Abi2612 02-13-2009, 09:08 AM #011R is alive and well in northern Italy. hurstg01 02-13-2009, 10:26 AM #011R is alive and well in northern Italy. :thumbsup: for the info, added to the list and credit given :) vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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