Interior Cleaning
chris_eitniear
09-19-2007, 11:25 AM
Hi Everyone,
I have a 2001 Le Sabre Custom with leather seats. I've been using Lexor to clean and condition the seats, only because I can't find Zymol in my area. It works well enough, I suppose, but I'm wondering what to use to clean and protect other stuff like the dash pad, and door panels, etc. I've been using Armor All for those, but I'm not really impressed with it. I should add that I'm a bit fanatical about keeping the car in good shape and would like to have it look as good in 10 years as it does now, so what's the best on the market that can be gotten in a rural area?
I have a 2001 Le Sabre Custom with leather seats. I've been using Lexor to clean and condition the seats, only because I can't find Zymol in my area. It works well enough, I suppose, but I'm wondering what to use to clean and protect other stuff like the dash pad, and door panels, etc. I've been using Armor All for those, but I'm not really impressed with it. I should add that I'm a bit fanatical about keeping the car in good shape and would like to have it look as good in 10 years as it does now, so what's the best on the market that can be gotten in a rural area?
'97ventureowner
09-21-2007, 01:13 PM
Since you can't purchase Zymol in your area , have you ever thought about buying it online? I did a Google search and there are a few sources you can check out to see who has the best prices with shipping. That is what I have done in the past when I could no longer get an item I needed and was pleased with it's performance Sometimes a product may be discontinued or ceased being sold in certain areas, but still be available online.
chris_eitniear
09-24-2007, 03:07 AM
Yeah, that's a good idea. I just don't like to buy online because that usually means using a credit card, but I see that one of the places (http://www.autobarn.com) accepts paypal for ordering, so that's probably who I'll go with.
Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for the tip!
polarzak
09-24-2007, 06:13 AM
Hey, Chris...that car looks just like my wife's. Beautiful cars. I use Lexoil for my leather and have been happy with the cleaner and conditioner. Why do you feel
Zymol is better?
I use ArmorAll low sheen on the door panels/dash. Works for me.
Zymol is better?
I use ArmorAll low sheen on the door panels/dash. Works for me.
chris_eitniear
09-24-2007, 07:20 AM
Hey, Chris...that car looks just like my wife's. Beautiful cars. I use Lexoil for my leather and have been happy with the cleaner and conditioner. Why do you feel
Zymol is better?
The Lexol does work pretty well; it makes the leather quite soft for a while, however I bought this car about six weeks ago and I don't think the previous owner ever did anything with the seats. Zymol is supposed to not only condition the leather but return it as close to new as possible. I know that's quite a claim, but I've been using Zymol wax for a couple of years now and its the best stuff I've ever used. If their leather conditioner is half as good as they claim, it should be just the stuff I need. The seats aren't terrible, but they do show a bit more wear than they should.
I use ArmorAll low sheen on the door panels/dash. Works for me.
I can't get the low sheen Armor All here. I'm pretty much limited to what's on the shelf at the local Walmart or Advance Auto, and all they carry is the original formula, which puts too high of a gloss on the dash. The reflection in the windshield on a sunny day is terrible.
I figure that if I'm going to have to order online to get something different, I might as well order from a line of products that I've been satisfied with.
Zymol is better?
The Lexol does work pretty well; it makes the leather quite soft for a while, however I bought this car about six weeks ago and I don't think the previous owner ever did anything with the seats. Zymol is supposed to not only condition the leather but return it as close to new as possible. I know that's quite a claim, but I've been using Zymol wax for a couple of years now and its the best stuff I've ever used. If their leather conditioner is half as good as they claim, it should be just the stuff I need. The seats aren't terrible, but they do show a bit more wear than they should.
I use ArmorAll low sheen on the door panels/dash. Works for me.
I can't get the low sheen Armor All here. I'm pretty much limited to what's on the shelf at the local Walmart or Advance Auto, and all they carry is the original formula, which puts too high of a gloss on the dash. The reflection in the windshield on a sunny day is terrible.
I figure that if I'm going to have to order online to get something different, I might as well order from a line of products that I've been satisfied with.
'97ventureowner
09-24-2007, 12:34 PM
Yeah, that's a good idea. I just don't like to buy online because that usually means using a credit card, but I see that one of the places (http://www.autobarn.com) accepts paypal for ordering, so that's probably who I'll go with.
Thanks for the tip!
Check with your credit card issuer(s) as some have a new feature with "virtual credit card numbers" that are what I would call "one time use/disposable" that way it's harder for someone to get ahold of that number and use it for other purchases. The info for these is on their website. I have many cards and know a few of them offer this option. That way if a site doesn't take PayPal, then you're covered.
Thanks for the tip!
Check with your credit card issuer(s) as some have a new feature with "virtual credit card numbers" that are what I would call "one time use/disposable" that way it's harder for someone to get ahold of that number and use it for other purchases. The info for these is on their website. I have many cards and know a few of them offer this option. That way if a site doesn't take PayPal, then you're covered.
HotZ28
09-24-2007, 05:58 PM
I have several bottles of Lexor and Zymol in my mass supply of leather conditioners. I have quit using both of them, since Armor-All came out with their “Leather Conditioning GEL”. It works better; smells better and last longer than the other top rated brands! Try it and you will like it! :grinyes:
polarzak
09-25-2007, 06:10 AM
I have several bottles of Lexor and Zymol in my mass supply of leather conditioners. I have quit using both of them, since Armor-All came out with their “Leather Conditioning GEL”. It works better; smells better and last longer than the other top rated brands! Try it and you will like it! :grinyes:
Thanks for the tip. Does it leave the leather shiny or like original? I like Lexol for the protection, but I am not fond of the shiny look that it leaves. While it is great for Equestrian leather, I might try the Armor-All Leather Conditioning for my car if it is low or no sheen.
Also, Thanks Chris for the reply
Thanks for the tip. Does it leave the leather shiny or like original? I like Lexol for the protection, but I am not fond of the shiny look that it leaves. While it is great for Equestrian leather, I might try the Armor-All Leather Conditioning for my car if it is low or no sheen.
Also, Thanks Chris for the reply
HotZ28
09-25-2007, 02:03 PM
Armor-All will dry to a natural leather appearance, (no shine) just like saddle soap. :bigthumb:
polarzak
09-26-2007, 06:30 AM
Thanks..I will give it a try this weekend.
jase386
09-28-2007, 02:39 AM
the company that makes Lexol, also makes a product for plastic and vinyl called vinylex. it is engineered like the Lexol, to restore the materials natural moisture so it doesnt crack.
have had several different upholstery people tell me that armor-all products have a chemical in them which extracts the natural moisture and replaces the material with the armor-all chemical, and when you stop using the armor-all it cracks all to hell. i use lexol on my leather. and vinylex on my plastic. its not slick.
lexol brought back hard, crackly leather in my lincoln also.
have had several different upholstery people tell me that armor-all products have a chemical in them which extracts the natural moisture and replaces the material with the armor-all chemical, and when you stop using the armor-all it cracks all to hell. i use lexol on my leather. and vinylex on my plastic. its not slick.
lexol brought back hard, crackly leather in my lincoln also.
polarzak
09-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Armor-All will dry to a natural leather appearance, (no shine) just like saddle soap. :bigthumb:
Sorry, HotZ28, it does not. I bought the Armor-All today and tired it. Now my test spot shines like my bald headed uncle. :grinyes: I use saddle soap on my saddles, sports jackets, etc. and it is fine for that application. GM leather is coated, and seems to welcome a shine. It is a different leather process than Equestrian leather, soft glove leather like a sports jacket, so while I appreciate your suggestion, Armor-All is not what I am looking for. $8.00 in the garbage.
Sorry, HotZ28, it does not. I bought the Armor-All today and tired it. Now my test spot shines like my bald headed uncle. :grinyes: I use saddle soap on my saddles, sports jackets, etc. and it is fine for that application. GM leather is coated, and seems to welcome a shine. It is a different leather process than Equestrian leather, soft glove leather like a sports jacket, so while I appreciate your suggestion, Armor-All is not what I am looking for. $8.00 in the garbage.
chris_eitniear
09-28-2007, 11:39 PM
Sorry, HotZ28, it does not. I bought the Armor-All today and tired it. Now my test spot shines like my bald headed uncle. :grinyes: I use saddle soap on my saddles, sports jackets, etc. and it is fine for that application. GM leather is coated, and seems to welcome a shine. It is a different leather process than Equestrian leather, soft glove leather like a sports jacket, so while I appreciate your suggestion, Armor-All is not what I am looking for. $8.00 in the garbage.
I'll probably be getting some Zymol Treat Leather Conditioner (http://zymol.com/shop/item.asp?PID=1390&scID=114) in the mail sometime next week, and I'll let you know how that works out for me.
I'll probably be getting some Zymol Treat Leather Conditioner (http://zymol.com/shop/item.asp?PID=1390&scID=114) in the mail sometime next week, and I'll let you know how that works out for me.
HotZ28
09-29-2007, 09:14 AM
Polarzak, sorry to here about your “shiny spot” experience using Armor-All Gel!
After reading your post, I did some research on what may be some difference in leather products used in the LeSabre and PA. I have two PA’s & two LeSabre. The PA leather is definitely different from the LeSabre. The PA is much softer (like a glove) and does not shine like the LeSabre leather when using conditioner. Of course, both of my PA’s have neutral (tan) leather and one LeSabre burgundy and the other blue leather. I tried some “gel” on the blue one, and it did appear to leave somewhat of a shine, however, after it dried & wiped down with a towel the shine was no longer apparent. BTW, for best results using any type of conditioner, the leather needs to be very warm. I usually apply conditioner after the car has been sitting in the hot sun for several hours with the windows closed. That equals about 125-135 deg where I live.
After reading your post, I did some research on what may be some difference in leather products used in the LeSabre and PA. I have two PA’s & two LeSabre. The PA leather is definitely different from the LeSabre. The PA is much softer (like a glove) and does not shine like the LeSabre leather when using conditioner. Of course, both of my PA’s have neutral (tan) leather and one LeSabre burgundy and the other blue leather. I tried some “gel” on the blue one, and it did appear to leave somewhat of a shine, however, after it dried & wiped down with a towel the shine was no longer apparent. BTW, for best results using any type of conditioner, the leather needs to be very warm. I usually apply conditioner after the car has been sitting in the hot sun for several hours with the windows closed. That equals about 125-135 deg where I live.
polarzak
09-29-2007, 10:29 AM
Polarzak, sorry to here about your “shiny spot” experience using Armor-All Gel!
I usually apply conditioner after the car has been sitting in the hot sun for several hours with the windows closed. That equals about 125-135 deg where I live.
Hey, no problem HotZ28. It was worth a try and I can use it for something else.
I might try it again using your leaving the car in the sun method. It was only about 65 in the garage last night when I tested so the seats were definitely not warm.
Thanks.
I usually apply conditioner after the car has been sitting in the hot sun for several hours with the windows closed. That equals about 125-135 deg where I live.
Hey, no problem HotZ28. It was worth a try and I can use it for something else.
I might try it again using your leaving the car in the sun method. It was only about 65 in the garage last night when I tested so the seats were definitely not warm.
Thanks.
chris_eitniear
10-08-2007, 09:29 PM
I got the Zymol stuff that I ordered late last week. So far, I've used the leather cleaner and conditioner on the seats and the vinyl conditioner of the dash and door panels.
First impressions, the leather cleaner works a little better than the Lexol. It seems to foam up a little more than the Lexol for better cleaning and has a more pleasant odor. The leather conditioner, after buffing, leaves no shine, the leather is super soft, and best of all, doesn't smell like linseed oil. Its too soon to tell if it will restore the seats as claimed, but I should be able to tell by the time I've used all of it.
The vinyl conditioner, well there's no gentle way to put it, the stuff stinks going on. However, after using it, the smell quickly dissipated and left the vinyl with a satin finish that is slippery to the touch but not greasy feeling like armor all leaves it.
All in all, I'm pretty happy with the stuff I bought, but I'm not sure its worth the extra expense.
First impressions, the leather cleaner works a little better than the Lexol. It seems to foam up a little more than the Lexol for better cleaning and has a more pleasant odor. The leather conditioner, after buffing, leaves no shine, the leather is super soft, and best of all, doesn't smell like linseed oil. Its too soon to tell if it will restore the seats as claimed, but I should be able to tell by the time I've used all of it.
The vinyl conditioner, well there's no gentle way to put it, the stuff stinks going on. However, after using it, the smell quickly dissipated and left the vinyl with a satin finish that is slippery to the touch but not greasy feeling like armor all leaves it.
All in all, I'm pretty happy with the stuff I bought, but I'm not sure its worth the extra expense.
CCGrayson
10-09-2007, 03:03 AM
All in all, I'm pretty happy with the stuff I bought, but I'm not sure its worth the extra expense.
It's always worth the extra expense to make your look good and feel nice.
It's always worth the extra expense to make your look good and feel nice.
TGMCallie
11-02-2007, 10:33 PM
Hi Everyone,
I have a 2001 Le Sabre Custom with leather seats. I've been using Lexor to clean and condition the seats, only because I can't find Zymol in my area. It works well enough, I suppose, but I'm wondering what to use to clean and protect other stuff like the dash pad, and door panels, etc. I've been using Armor All for those, but I'm not really impressed with it. I should add that I'm a bit fanatical about keeping the car in good shape and would like to have it look as good in 10 years as it does now, so what's the best on the market that can be gotten in a rural area?
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Does this Lexol do a good job cleaning the seat as well as protecting it? If not what do you people suggest to clean the leather seats with before conditioning them?
I just got the buy of a lifetime. My neighbor had a 1999 LaSabre that she was no longer driving. Been in her garage for a year. The car is in excellent shape 60,700 original miles and the only thing wrong with it is she was a PIG. The inside was a mess and now I have cleaned up it really well except the leather seats. The car is platinum beige metalic and the seats match. The seats are in excellent shape except dirty in spots. Would you believe that I got it for $800.00. I could not believe it either. Runs like a jewell.
Advise
I have a 2001 Le Sabre Custom with leather seats. I've been using Lexor to clean and condition the seats, only because I can't find Zymol in my area. It works well enough, I suppose, but I'm wondering what to use to clean and protect other stuff like the dash pad, and door panels, etc. I've been using Armor All for those, but I'm not really impressed with it. I should add that I'm a bit fanatical about keeping the car in good shape and would like to have it look as good in 10 years as it does now, so what's the best on the market that can be gotten in a rural area?
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Does this Lexol do a good job cleaning the seat as well as protecting it? If not what do you people suggest to clean the leather seats with before conditioning them?
I just got the buy of a lifetime. My neighbor had a 1999 LaSabre that she was no longer driving. Been in her garage for a year. The car is in excellent shape 60,700 original miles and the only thing wrong with it is she was a PIG. The inside was a mess and now I have cleaned up it really well except the leather seats. The car is platinum beige metalic and the seats match. The seats are in excellent shape except dirty in spots. Would you believe that I got it for $800.00. I could not believe it either. Runs like a jewell.
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jase386
11-02-2007, 10:42 PM
Lexol makes a Cleaner as well as a conditioner. The cleaner is in an orange bottle, while the conditioner is in a brownish bottle. Pep Boys is the only automotive store in my area that sells it.
and sometimes i use simple green and a wash cloth on my leather. simple green is mild and wont hurt the leather
and might i add. HOLY COW what a deal. i want an 88 model, and cant find one for under $1500 and here you got a 99 way to go!!
and sometimes i use simple green and a wash cloth on my leather. simple green is mild and wont hurt the leather
and might i add. HOLY COW what a deal. i want an 88 model, and cant find one for under $1500 and here you got a 99 way to go!!
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