McRae/Burns/Park Group Build - do you fancy it?

One and all, I need your opinion. Following the utterly tragic events of the weekend I have thought about setting up another group build.

My idea is a Colin McRae / Richard Burns / Michael 'Beef' Park tribute group build. This may be a non-starter as Im sure many of us have already built some if not all of the cars driven/co-driven by these guys, however I am also sure that as alot of us have a big stash of kits it is also safe to presume that at least of one or more of the them is in our 'to do' piles. I hope none of you think that Im being over the top or dramatic buy suggesting this, however I have not built any of their cars and would just think it would be a small gesture as a thankyou to these guys who have given Britain two World Champions and in turn made us Brits proud!

So what do you all think. I will set up the thread and list all of the builds here. Even if it doesnt take off Im putting on hold my 312B and Im going to build two of their cars together (McRae's 2001 Scooby & Burns' 2003 Pug 206).

I have done a little digging and these are the WRC cars I can find which could be entered into the Group Build as follows (if I miss any please let me know and I will add to the list), their are also the National Rally Championship cars and also Paris-Dakar cars which could be included and also in the McRae's case a Le Mans 24hr car too:

Michael Park (with Markko Märtin):
2000 Toyota Corolla
2001 Subaru Imprezza
2002 Ford Focus
2003 Ford Focus
2004 Ford Focus
2005 Peugeot 307

Colin McRae (with Derek Ringer upto 1996 and then Nicky Grist):
1989 Ford Sierra Cosworth
1993 Subaru Legacy
1994 Subaru Imprezza
1995 Subaru Imprezza (WRC World Champion)
1996 Subaru Imprezza
1997 Subaru Imprezza
1998 Subaru Imprezza
1999 Ford Focus
2000 Ford Focus
2001 Ford Focus
2002 Ford Focus
2003 Citroen Xsara
2005 Skoda
2006 Citroen Xsara & Subaru Imprezza (USA Rally)

Richard Burns (with Robert Reid):
1996 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III
1998 Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo IV
1999 Subaru Imprezza
2000 Subaru Imprezza
2001 Subaru Imprezza (WRC World Champion)
2002 Peugeot 206
2003 Peugeot 206

So there you go, see what you think. It would be great if a few of us got on board however I know time is precious and we already have the Ferrari 60th Anniv Build running but let me know you all think.

I love the id. The biggest problem with a group build is to find a decent subject and this is brilliant tought.
I've never build a rally car, so if it goes trough, I'll probably join the build. You've got my vote for the next group build, and I think a lot of people will join it.

I think this is a good idea and a great way to pay tribute to those rally heroes. I'm in, in what ever way this group build takes place. I had the joy of seeing Martin/Park win Rally Mexico. When Hasegawa made the kit for Finland I bought two of them so I can make the conversion.

1995 was pre-WRC.

1994 was the first year of the Impreza.

You missed the fact the Colin also drove for Skoda in 2005 for a limited number of rallies.

You have missed several of Richard's drives and have them mixed up too.
He drove the Evo.V and Evo. IV in 1998.
2002 Richard was with Peugeot.

Sean, I own a lot of scooby to do since I love them, from the Legacy to the '05 machine, but I'm not 100% with the idea. It's sad. I guess you like to remember those guys in action, I prefere to remember Colin or Richard's smile and wait a bit to mount my scoobies.

Anyway I'll follow you guys.

1995 was pre-WRC.

1994 was the first year of the Impreza.

You missed the fact the Colin also drove for Skoda in 2005 for a limited number of rallies.

You have missed several of Richard's drives and have them mixed up too.
He drove the Evo.V and Evo. IV in 1998.
2002 Richard was with Peugeot.

ah Freakray, yes - thanks for your encouragements there. I have corrected my errors and shall send myself to the detention room where no doubt I shall get a damn good thrashing from the headmaster...

but anyway let's get back to the point of the thread, are you in - do you think its a good idea?

I dunno, I may be with Gio on this. I'm certainly planning a build of at least one of Colin's cars, but it does seem a bit soon for my start. It is of course a matter of personal taste and choice, but I'd be given to let some time pass first.

You can add McRae's appearence in an '06 Xsara as well.

Well if one gets picky, McRae also drove a 2006 Xsara when Loeb got a shoulder issue. I don't have the exact vehicle he used to cut the grass at his home though :evillol:

(edit) Ok MPWR had this first!

from the bbc news pages when Colin ran in the American Rally in Los Angeles (August 2006).

If ever a car can be made to dance on tiptoes:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44118000/jpg/_44118982_mcraeus06.jpg




and his other company car at Le Mans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGcQooF6tIc)

http://www.imca-slotracing.com/images/LM04-65.jpg

[quote=OrangeR]Well if one gets picky, McRae also drove a 2006 Xsara when Loeb got a shoulder issue. I don't have the exact vehicle he used to cut the grass at his home though :evillol:quote]

:grinyes:

Well, I can understand those who think it's too much early to build a Colin's/Beef's/Richard's car...
But if we intend to pay homage to them, what better way could it be...??
it's not a celebration, it's a tribute.

I've not chosen a car yet, but I will be part of it.
If I can find some time and energy, I may try to build one 1/43 model for each of the three plus one 1/24.


Concerning Colin, you can also add his one-shot in "Brit' Nascar" (?? sorry I can't remember this serie's name any more...) but I don't know which car he drove.


Thanks Sean for the idea, I think it's a fair idea and return to the passion they put in us.

If I am to build a McRae car, I will build his 1992 season Rally Sweden Legacy.

For Richard I would build his Safari Rally winning Evo.IV.

Nice idea to make a little tribute, have to find Hasegawa/Revell Impreza RAC '93 model again though...

Ok Andy: since we two are the only VS the build, I guess we'll start our kind "very little group" build :D

November 1 is too much in theme with our friends GB :D, may be december 1 the announcement? :D ;) too late?

I'll heard some BMW thunder's echo coming....... ;) :D

It's a great idea Sean.If I can muster the time I would certainly build something.I would love to build Colin's 1992 Subaru Legacy in the blue and white Rothmans colours or Richard's Subaru Legacy from the 1993 Network Q Rally and in the case of Markko Martin and Michael Park it would have to be the Peugeot 307 for sure.

I've already had a little reflexion and check of my models...

I thought to build Colin's Focus from 2001 Cyprus from 1/24 tamiya kit.
But finally I put my hands back on the Hasegawa Impreza Gr.A from 1994 RAC rally.
I will build this one first (or maybe 95 RAC, I will see, I have both decals...), and then the focus if I can...

Have you noticed that we could all build a Sub' what the driver would be, because they all drove a Subaru Impreza during their career...? :grinyes:

Anyone has a title to give for this group build ?
what about "tribute to rally legends" ?

Have you noticed that we could all build a Sub' what the driver would be, because they all drove a Subaru Impreza during their career...? :grinyes:


For that matter Possum drove a Suby, too.

Have you noticed that we could all build a Sub' what the driver would be, because they all drove a Subaru Impreza during their career...? :grinyes:


Michael Park was a co-driver. :p

For that matter Possum drove a Suby, too.

Yes, right, and why not including Possum in this tribute ? :)

Michael Park was a co-driver. :p

uhh you're playing with the words... :p

Driver, co-driver, I thought to the crew, one is nothing without the other ! :iceslolan

For the name... how about "Return to dust" or something like that. You know oneself is at the end just dust, (dust to dust ashes to ashes) and what is present in all rally surfaces but dust. Well I was just wondering, I had to much to eat so I'm kind of sleepy right know...

To include all rally heroes lust is a great idea.

For the name... how about "Return to dust" or something like that. You know oneself is at the end just dust, (dust to dust ashes to ashes) and what is present in all rally surfaces but dust. Well I was just wondering, I had to much to eat so I'm kind of sleepy right know...

To include all rally heroes lust is a great idea.


I don't know if people would really understand what's behind such title... :screwy: but why not :)
I didn't think to some imaged title, prefering something simple (it has to stay a tribute) but such image can match to the situation.

Including all died rally legends may not be a bad idea (Toivonen, etc) but I guess I've spoken too fast, and by the way too much, too, because it's Sean's idea and not mine and I suppose he wanted to make this group build in memory of These 3 UK drivers and co-drivers.

I've already talked too much for an idea not coming from myself ! :uhoh:

Let's hear what other people think about it, especially Sean.
I'd prefer to keep these 3 rally legends for the group build but I'm personaly opened minded for more. :wink:

I don't know if people would really understand what's behind such title... :screwy: but why not :)
I didn't think to some imaged title, prefering something simple (it has to stay a tribute) but such image can match to the situation.

Including all died rally legends may not be a bad idea (Toivonen, etc) but I guess I've spoken too fast, and by the way too much, too, because it's Sean's idea and not mine and I suppose he wanted to make this group build in memory of These 3 UK drivers and co-drivers.

I've already talked too much for an idea not coming from myself ! :uhoh:

Let's hear what other people think about it, especially Sean.
I'd prefer to keep these 3 rally legends for the group build but I'm personaly opened minded for more. :wink:

I agree with this entire post.

OrangeR, unfortunately a title like that would be, to me, in poor taste.

OrangeR, unfortunately a title like that would be, to me, in poor taste.[/QUOTE]

OK, just throwing ideas in the air. I can see your point.

my Hasegawa "focus wrc 03 Finland winner" is ready for launch...:cheers:

Märtin..runaround Märtin..runaround Märtin..runaround Märtin..runaround Märtin..runaround

I've got a Martin/Park Focus... I'll do it.

Guys,

Im really pleased that it seems the idea is going down well with you and thank you all for taking time to post. I will let this run for another 7 days and lets see how many of us plan to join in.

As far as the title goes there have been some great ideas. I also like the idea of paying tribute to all those Rally Legends over the years who have left us, however I think - the list would be too great and with the respect to those from foreign shores I wanted to keep this as a tribute to the 3 Brits especially as we have now lost our only 2 World Champions in modern times.

I like the fact that alot of you are looking at the less famous cars that these guys drove too - makes my choice of the 2001 Scooby and the 2003 Pug look rather boring!!!

Anyway - I will get my thinking cap on and try and come u with a title. But keep the interest coming - the more the merrier I say!

..... return to dust......:screwy:

Remember that they'll ever launch lightning in your nuts and make you buy viagra forever insthead models :evillol::evillol::evillol:

... just a bit of respect more? I understand your enthusiasm guys, try to keep things on the good taste side ;)

I've quickly knocked up 3 ideas for banners - your thoughts appreciated as ever.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/ohanra/trib_log3.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/ohanra/trib_log2.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/ohanra/trib_log1.jpg

ok - how do you all like the sound of

'Flying High'
Sean, considering the nature of McRae's demise, that title seems a bit... ironic to say the least ;)

Sean, considering the nature of McRae's demise, that title seems a bit... ironic to say the least ;)

hmmm, good point! More thought needed and Im gonna remove that one! Fingers in gear before brain there!

... how about simply...

'Britain's Best'?

Great idea Sean - I'm in. :) This is just the thing I need to get me back to the workbench. Only trouble is choosing one car. My first thought was a 1992 McRay/Ringer Legacy, but Ray has already taken first dibs there. So maybe a 2002 San Remo Martin/Park Focus or 1998 RAC Rally Burns/Reid Evo V?

And no need for a fancy title IMHO. The one in the thread title sums it all up.

The second banner is the one I personaly like the most.
Concerning the title, I also think once more that something simple would be the best choice.
"UK rally legends Tribute" or " Tribute to UK rally stars" or... something like that would I say, if it's not already too long ! :wink:

I started my sub' yesterday, I will finally build the 1995 RAC Colin's car.

Pity Studio 27 stopped the 550 GT1 program. The 2004 Prodrive LM where going to be released after the BMS 2005 versions. But they won't tell me why they aren't releasing it. Otherwise I would join the club with the 550 LM 2004 #65 with Colin McRae...

Count me in. Probably do the Burns 206, McRae's MK11 Escort and I wouldn't mind doing the Martin/Park Corolla but I can't find any photo's to do up the decals.