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whats faster RSXtypeS or GTI 1.8T


rayGTI23
11-13-2002, 12:23 PM
Guys what car do you think is faster not by what the hrps saids but what youve seen or heard from personal experience???

G60 Kid
12-05-2002, 11:19 AM
Im sure it would be close. The 1.8T has an edge with the torque, but the 20 extra HP for the RSX may help.

RACER D12
12-05-2002, 03:07 PM
What kind of race and how long?

RACER D12
12-05-2002, 03:14 PM
As far as top speed it would be the RSX but if it was a race the 1.8T would win because its got turbo and like G60 Kid said its got more torque. So the race would be over before the RSX could pass the GTI because their top speeds are so close, what ever the RSXs top speed is its not much more than the GTIs.

RACER D12
12-05-2002, 03:16 PM
As far as top speed it would be the RSX but if it was a race the 1.8T would win because its got turbo and like G60 Kid said its got more torque. So the race would be over before the RSX could pass the GTI because their top speeds are so close, what ever the RSXs top speed is its not much more than the GTIs so it would make a big difference in a race.

P.S A friend of mine beat a RSX in his 1.8T jetta so think the GTI could do it to

Deakins
12-07-2002, 06:55 PM
You should be compairing the RSX Type-S with the GTi VR6.

And Volkswagen biased as I am, let's look at "teh numbers":

GTi:
2.8 L
200 hp @ 6200 RPM
195 ft.lbs @ 3200 RPM
6 speed manual - AWD
0.31 Cd
$21,995

RSX
2.0 L
200 hp @ 7400 RPM
142 ft.lbs @ 6000 RPM
6 speed manual - FWD
0.32 Cd
$23,270

evo2885
12-27-2002, 10:42 PM
SUp??
actualy,
I saw in a dyno sheet that the RSX-S only does actually a 173 HP. So i think its obvious that the GTi 1.8T and the type-S should be compared !!!
AND not the GTi VR6 and the RSX Type S !!!

So i'm guessin that the 1.8T would beat the Type S...

PEACE!!!! :smoker2: :bandit: :grey: :sun:

GreatOne01
12-27-2002, 10:56 PM
Deakins, you got the facts for the 2.8, not the 1.8. Unless I'm mistaken. The acura type S would lose just on the fact that the golf pwnz joo. :D

Deakins
12-27-2002, 11:10 PM
Yes, I think the Type S should be compared to the V(R)6.

GreatOne01
12-28-2002, 02:00 AM
You know much better then me. :D

Deakins
12-28-2002, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by evo2885
SUp??
actualy,
I saw in a dyno sheet that the RSX-S only does actually a 173 HP. So i think its obvious that the GTi 1.8T and the type-S should be compared !!!
AND not the GTi VR6 and the RSX Type S !!!


Well, of course, both the Type S and the VR6 has 200 hp, but not all of it finds it way to the ground. If 173 honda ponies makes it to the ground, they have a 13.5% powerloss in the drivetrain, and thets not bad. The AWD GTi probably has a highet loss than that.

Djchazz
12-31-2002, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by rayGTI23
Guys what car do you think is faster not by what the hrps saids but what youve seen or heard from personal experience???



Stock vs Stock The S-type is faster

QuickSilverEF9
01-15-2003, 02:42 PM
15.1 to 15.9 the RSX is faster in the 1/4 mile. They are right compare the 15.1 to 15.1 of the rsx vs vr6 in the 1/4 mile. Add a chip and a downpipe to the 1.8t and you will clean up on the streets just with that.

GTi-VR6_A3
01-20-2003, 04:44 AM
according to my friend he lost to a new 1.8t in his firends supra... then again they were running a little higher boost than normal but it was the stock charger. no more info than that though. and i know a rsx can not beat a supra.

-GTi-VR6_A3

GreatOne01
01-20-2003, 10:07 PM
what year supra?

QuickSilverEF9
01-21-2003, 05:14 PM
Bottom line it all comes down to what you want.... A honda engine that is hard to tune and doesn't support turbo (oil pan cannot be tapped because of its positioning and function) or a 1.8 liter turbo charged engine that can be easily and effectivly tuned into a monster..... Better yet throw a turbo on a 2.8L VR6 :).

GreatOne01
01-22-2003, 09:05 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping to do. VR6 plus turbo = ownage.

85 gti 16v
01-23-2003, 12:28 AM
:flipa: :finger: rsx:finger: :flipa: my experiences with gti's are as follows 1.8 slow 2.0 getting quicker 1.9 never go diesel vr6 quick 1.8t slightly quicker than vr6 a4 gti 1.8 tt will smoke any honda,acura,mitsubishi,eagle,nissan,mazda out there

GTi-VR6_A3
01-23-2003, 01:54 AM
i would agree but the 1.8 with a sport clutch is still fun and accelrates and handles nicely.

-GTi-VR6_A3

QuickSilverEF9
01-23-2003, 11:57 AM
vr6 quick 1.8t slightly quicker than vr6

Sorry but you are wrong about that one.. The 1.8T is quick and is more easily tuned but the VR6 starts out with a better 1/4 mile time and 0-60 times. I too have driven a 2.0, VR6 and 1.8T. VR6 in a Mk3 GTI manual and a Jetta4 auto, the 2.0 in a golf mk3, and the 1.8T in a mk4 GTI, b5 passat, and a jetta4. The turbo feels nice however the VR6 starts out with more speed and raw power. With a few mods the VR6 and the 1.8T can be in the 14s but the 1.8T will be in the lower 14s. I would love to have the 1.8T but stock for stock the VR6 is quicker. Oh and you will never hear that deep throaty sound coming from a turboed 4 banger :).

85 gti 16v
01-23-2003, 08:26 PM
:bonghitte as i say a twinturbo 1.8 would smoke many cars:smoker2: :bonghitte :bonghitte

85 gti 16v
01-23-2003, 08:50 PM
i have nothing against any vw i started out withn the 1.8 with 238k original miles vw's overall are great cars and fun to drive

mimi03gti
01-25-2003, 12:23 PM
No comparison in the real world. I test drove the RSX Type-S and it is guttless compared to the 1.8T. The torque is just overwhelming in the 1.8T and the RSX has to play catch up all the time. And the HP is actually closer to each other according to the dyno sheets. So RSX claims 200 hp and 1.8T 180, but in reality, they both put about 170 to the wheels. Also I had the privledge of driving my cousins Honday S2000 (gutless below 6000 rpm) and for real world driving, I still prefer the 1.8T. I don't like the idea of a car having to play catch up all the time, and that is why I love the 1.8T. Instant power when you need it. And with just a few mods, the 1.8T rules! This is coming from a guy who's experienced driving all 3 cars mentioned. Besides, the quarter mile times for the Honda's are with professional drivers that had lots of experience launching it just right to get the best times. I've seen someone (non professional) with his S2000 not being able to break 15's in the quarter mile! Hell, I could have bought some of those higher HP cars, but I live in the real world and get more out of the 1.8T then I would out of the others, besides, I love the look on the other peoples faces when I pull away from them with my little 1.8T!

Genesis2
02-04-2003, 09:53 PM
GTI

endlesskev86
02-12-2003, 11:05 PM
i think that the GTi would be more fun to drive...

VR6Turbo
02-13-2003, 08:56 PM
Ive test driven both cars, (I go around my area of Dallas from dealership to dealership test driving cars, you should really try it! The most expensive car Ive test driven was a $29000 Camaro Z28, so any car under about $30,000 is not a problem!)

But anyways, the RSX-S doesnt really feel very special until you spin it into the upper RPM range, very typical of Honda engines. The GTI 1.8T gets all of its 180 ft/lbs of torque at like 2000 rpm! I think the VW would take the RSX.

aliki1027
02-15-2003, 06:43 PM
the VR6 rules but even the 1.8t would kill the rsx since it doesnt get any of its power till higher rpms.

Paonessa
02-16-2003, 07:39 PM
i've never driven or raced against the VW but it's gotta be faster than the RSX Type Slow

dieselbp67
03-20-2003, 08:06 AM
I drive an RSX type S and my friend at work drives a VR6 GTI. Her car is alot of fun to drive..has a very tight tranny...yes, it has more low-end torque which is a nice change from my car....from 0-40 the VR6 is quicker, but once I hit VTEC at about 5800 rpms, I pull on the GTI. It does not have the top end power of the type S. Also, the type S takes advantage of gearing, where peak torque at higher rpms is better then low rpms....check out...
http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html

I do really like the VR6, it is a great car...I wish i had heated seats too :)

Deakins
03-20-2003, 10:42 AM
Well...
Having the torque peak at low or hig rpm doesn't really matter, as long as you have a flat torque curve. The VR6 have more torque across the entire powerband from 1500 to 6500 rpm then the RSX have at peak.
And as far as I know, the VR6 have more top end power.
All in all, what really matters is the area under the power/torque curve.

dieselbp67
03-20-2003, 10:57 AM
thats true about the flat curve...I havent seen the dyno of the VR6. The VR6 puts out 180 HP at the crank, its the GTI VR6...

Deakins
03-20-2003, 11:06 AM
That would be the mk3 VR6, well, -'01 VR6 in the US.

Here is a dyno chart of a mk4 VR6
http://camo.flage.net/albums/albuq64/24vdyno.jpg

scrapincivicsi
10-02-2003, 10:14 PM
well i have some news for u vw heads.. i was cruzin along the other night and there was a golf1.8t flyen around tryen to sport that junker..i pull up and just so happen to get four good runs in with the kid. they were about half miles runs at about speeds of 110.. i beat the kid everytime off the line and the entire run.. only time he could get past me is when we were already goin about 80 and i was in fourth and he would just down shift and rev the crap out of that motor and the turbo would help him out alot.. and all i have is a 1.6l honda b16a2 motor with bolt on mods...... does this tell you anything... i would run anyone in a 1.8t and hand ur but to you everytime..

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