1995 Eclipse OBD II Compliant?


Russ10
07-25-2007, 09:56 AM
Can anyone tell me if a 1995 Eclipse 2.0 non-turbo is OBD II compliant? I called the local dealer and they were useless!

SilvrEclipse
07-25-2007, 10:00 AM
95 eclipse should be OBD1. I dont know what you mean by is it compliant to OBD2.

Russ10
07-25-2007, 10:18 AM
Basically "compliance" just means it will work to retrieve the codes. So you are saying it will only work with an OBD I?

SilvrEclipse
07-25-2007, 10:30 AM
Are you just trying to use an OBD2 scanner or something to see cel codes. I dont think you would be able to use something for OBD2, it may work just not perfectly.

eclipse98gst
07-25-2007, 11:03 AM
I believe the 95s are OBDII compatible. They use the same ECU configuration as the 96-99s.

Russ10
07-25-2007, 11:57 AM
Is the ECU the same thing as the PCM? I checked the manual and can't find anything about the ECU.

Russ10
07-25-2007, 12:02 PM
I haven't used anything to read the codes yet. I'm trying to find out which scanner it takes. So far all I have used are the check engine flash codes but they don't make any sense. For a while I was getting 1-2-4-5-5 and then I was getting 1-2-5-5. I can't find anything that tells me what they mean. Those numbers don't show up in any code lists I can find.

spyderturbo007
07-25-2007, 01:08 PM
2g Eclipses are OBD-II. Although the government mandate wasn't until 1996, Mitsubishi implemented the OBD-II standard in all 2g cars. Since you are N/T, you should be able to get the key dance to work, which is I'm guess what you are trying to do. Try it again and see if you can get a more consistent reading from the ECU.

My guess is that the code is 12 - 55.

12 is the fault code indicating a power failure to the ECU and 55 signals the end of codes. So it looks like you are just being notified that the PCM lost power. Did you disconnect the battery while working on something before you got the codes?

spyderturbo007
07-25-2007, 01:12 PM
Is the ECU the same thing as the PCM? I checked the manual and can't find anything about the ECU.

Yes, they are the same thing.

Russ10
07-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Yes, I did have the negitive cable to the battery disconnected. It sounds as though my sensors and the pcm are good in that case. I get spark and gas but no fire. Timing belt maybe? By the way thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.

eclipse98gst
07-25-2007, 04:13 PM
If you can get it to autozone they can scan it for you. You can also try other parts stores, a lot of the time they will rent their scanners out to people.

spyderturbo007
07-26-2007, 07:14 AM
As for your spark problem, I really can't help you. I know nothing about the N/T's. Sorry.

Russ10
07-26-2007, 07:47 AM
Hey Spyder I found the problem. Broken timing belt. It looks like a real pain in the ass but at least I found out why it won't fire. Thanks again for all the help.

david-b
07-26-2007, 12:17 PM
That sucks. You may have internal damage to the engine. Bent valves, broken piston heads... can be quite extensive. Only way to find out is to rip the head off, check it all out, and fix what needs it. It's a pain in the ass, and if you've never done this before, take it to a shop.

Russ10
07-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Apparently the car was sitting still at idle when it stalled. Of course then it wouldn't restart. I'm hoping that may have saved it or is that wishful thinking? Also, once I have the timing belt removed if I can rotate the cams 360 by hand the valves should be O.K. right?

david-b
07-26-2007, 04:29 PM
Apparently the car was sitting still at idle when it stalled. Of course then it wouldn't restart. I'm hoping that may have saved it or is that wishful thinking? Also, once I have the timing belt removed if I can rotate the cams 360 by hand the valves should be O.K. right?

Not neccessarly. You can still do some damage even at idle. Think about it... the motor is moving, top and bottom. The belt snaps, disconnecting the top from bottom. Bottom will have some momentum left to turn the pistons, top really doesn't (spring pressure on cams). Depending on where and when the TB broke, you still could have some major damage.

david-b
10-18-2010, 08:13 AM
its obdII and obdI

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