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TURBO_EK4
11-07-2002, 07:00 PM
Hey guys, i need your help, would you guys happen to know how to make and install a mini-airbag suspension system for my models.

THANX!!;)

TheSyndicate
11-07-2002, 08:21 PM
It's never been done to my knowledge, but I assume it requires a lot of work. Making the miniature air bags would be the difficult part, and setting up very small hoses so it really works would be killer.

magicmanjk808
11-08-2002, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by TheSyndicate
It's never been done to my knowledge, but I assume it requires a lot of work. Making the miniature air bags would be the difficult part, and setting up very small hoses so it really works would be killer.

i agree :D

i've thought about this before then i realized how impossible it would be so i decided not to try figuring it out anymore.

ales
11-08-2002, 06:09 AM
I'm assuming your aim is ot have operational suspension? Well, if I ever decided to do that, I'd go with smallest electric moors on weach wheel with a fairly complex operation system (as well as a very complex system of limiting the movement of the suspension. This means siting behind the desk for a week trying to design the damn thing :)

Suspansion working on compressed air will be close to impossible in 1/24 scale.

TURBO_EK4
11-08-2002, 05:13 PM
ITS AN AUTO TECH PROJECT AND IT HAS TO BE W/COMPRESSED AIR.

BUT I AM ALSO THINKING OF GOING W/A BIGGER MODEL NOT 1:24 SCALE.

ales
11-08-2002, 05:28 PM
OK, OK, no need to shout! :bloated:

TURBO_EK4
11-08-2002, 05:45 PM
WAS I SHOUTING?:huh:

BWheel
11-08-2002, 06:08 PM
Have you looked at Lego building blocks? They have a very good suspension system.

The other option you could look at, which I've seen working quite effectively on a larger scale is to use small piping connecting to syringes. By having a large syringe as your 'reservoir', leading to 4 small syringes, you'd have a pretty good system, where you could pump the system up and down.

You'd want to fiddle a lot with this. Air would work OK-ish, but also water. You could even have quite a long tube as a lead-up to the model.

Don't know about remote controlling a system like this. You'd need some real funky systems to use an actual pneumatic system.

Remember, you can go right down to diabetic syringes that are really small. Your pressure area is real small though, so could be an issue. Probably 5ml as your pistons, and a big ole 200ml for the 'reservoir' would probably work the best. Fluid also works better than air, due to compression etc.

Good luck with it, and have fun....

TheSyndicate
11-08-2002, 06:13 PM
THe concept from a hoppin hydros kit might come into play, although I have never seen or used a hoppin hydros kit in real life. Just a while ago while driving I saw a truck that had airbag suspension on it, but some punk switched lanes and got in front of me so I couldn't see the actual makeup of the system. If you wanted it to be very realistic, you'd need to setup a central "hub" type object that has a central gate for the air, and then 4 individual gates for each corner of the vehicle. Then have the appropritae tubing running to each wheel, and then find yourself a shop that does custom rubber and metal work, then ahve them make the mini air bags. After that you'd need some sort of a relay system between the central hub and a remote control. I honestly would love to see or design such a thing, but the time and money required is above what I feel is reasonable.

TheSyndicate
11-08-2002, 06:23 PM
Here's a little concept drawing.

TURBO_EK4
11-09-2002, 07:37 PM
i just bought a 1:18 scale model Escalade!! I think that this size should make it easier.

Thanx guys 4 ur input!:flash:

Purpura Delujo
11-10-2002, 04:44 AM
What is it with people adding rims over 20" to excalades and making them scrape the ground etc etc? I think they look like shit!

Moppie
11-10-2002, 05:28 AM
Lego used to have smallish air operated pistons.
They were about 3inchs long, and had a range of motion of about 1inch

I dont know if they still make them, but they would be perfect for a larger scale model suspension.

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