20's or Supercharger/Intercooler
DeViL
11-03-2002, 12:40 PM
Its a tough choice really. Both are going to cost me around $4,000 bucks if not more. I'm leaning towards 20's because from what I've heard, headers would help out give the s/c a little more pep, and I don't have money for headers. But it still keeps going through my head, I would like a little more power out of my truck. But then again...the bling. I dunno anyone have any reasons whether I should go one way or another.
CAptynCrunch
11-03-2002, 12:42 PM
supercharger! power over looks always!
DeViL
11-03-2002, 12:45 PM
Yeah well I plan on making this truck faster, but it ain't going to be any drag racer.
1989CivicSi
11-03-2002, 06:37 PM
your truck looks good already, fuck some oversize ghetto ass 20's. Go with the supercharger and who cares about racing you will be able to get everywhere wiht more power and fun
20's jsut slow you down and most 20's are the most ugliest and ghettoest designs ever
20's jsut slow you down and most 20's are the most ugliest and ghettoest designs ever
dbiggss
11-03-2002, 07:11 PM
your truck looks good already, fuck some oversize ghetto ass 20's
my thoughts exactly. shit the Vortec V-6 is a potent engine already supercharge it and it will be badass. the stock Xtreme body and rims look good already. Supercharge first, later put some lightweight nice looking 17" or 18"s. :smoka:
my thoughts exactly. shit the Vortec V-6 is a potent engine already supercharge it and it will be badass. the stock Xtreme body and rims look good already. Supercharge first, later put some lightweight nice looking 17" or 18"s. :smoka:
BlkCamaroSS
11-03-2002, 08:02 PM
Yeah, I'm going to have to echo the other's sentiments here. Go for the power/performance of the supercharger over some 20's. Your truck doesn't need any bling, looks good as is. Get that thing putting down some bad times!!!
DeViL
11-03-2002, 08:40 PM
20's are the most ugliest and ghettoest designs ever
lol 20's aren't a design they are a size of wheel. These are the wheels I was looking at deciding on.
http://www.konigwheels.com/images/128_b.jpg
lol 20's aren't a design they are a size of wheel. These are the wheels I was looking at deciding on.
http://www.konigwheels.com/images/128_b.jpg
crunchymilk49
11-03-2002, 09:33 PM
well you said yourself you were never going to race it...and you cant accelerate / drive that fast everytime you're on the road, so im going to go against the crowd and say go with the 20s
the rims you were looking at were nice, but should NOT cost 4000...you could get some 20s for about 2000 if you looked around, of course nice-looking
i just think that you wouldn't really have any use for that power, since daily-driving doesn't really allow for it with traffic and everything
but if you ever plan on racing of any type, go with the supercharger
the rims you were looking at were nice, but should NOT cost 4000...you could get some 20s for about 2000 if you looked around, of course nice-looking
i just think that you wouldn't really have any use for that power, since daily-driving doesn't really allow for it with traffic and everything
but if you ever plan on racing of any type, go with the supercharger
DeViL
11-04-2002, 08:33 AM
Well I never said I wasn't going to race it :devil:, but I definately wouldn't be accepting any challenges on the street with 20's on. I'd yell out to the guy he's fucking nuts. If I wanted to race I'd take the wheels off and go to Old Dominion with my original wheels and tires on.
the rims you were looking at were nice, but should NOT cost 4000...you could get some 20s for about 2000 if you looked around, of course nice-looking
4,000 was the price of the wheels + tires as well. But still the wheels are expensive as hell compared to most 20's, its like 3,100. I have my ways of getting them for less though.
Either way one of these days I will have both 20 inch wheels and the supercharger/intecooler, it's just a matter of which to go with first. Perhaps I need to decide myself first do I want to show my car more or do I want to race it and show it. A supercharger would definately give me something to lift my hood up for. Typically at the little meets I just keep it close cuz who gives a fuck to see a stock V6? I dunno we'll see what I think once I have the money.
the rims you were looking at were nice, but should NOT cost 4000...you could get some 20s for about 2000 if you looked around, of course nice-looking
4,000 was the price of the wheels + tires as well. But still the wheels are expensive as hell compared to most 20's, its like 3,100. I have my ways of getting them for less though.
Either way one of these days I will have both 20 inch wheels and the supercharger/intecooler, it's just a matter of which to go with first. Perhaps I need to decide myself first do I want to show my car more or do I want to race it and show it. A supercharger would definately give me something to lift my hood up for. Typically at the little meets I just keep it close cuz who gives a fuck to see a stock V6? I dunno we'll see what I think once I have the money.
Cbass
11-04-2002, 05:11 PM
Contrary to what most people believe, a supercharger is not a "bolt on" modification. If you're going to forced induction, there are tons of things that must be done, from lowering compression, to recalibrating your ECU.
Of course, you can supercharge it without doing these things, but don't expect too much extra performance, or your motor to last too long. I'll always recommend turbocharging over supercharging, because you have to do all the same things, and turbochargers offer more flexibility.
Of course, you can supercharge it without doing these things, but don't expect too much extra performance, or your motor to last too long. I'll always recommend turbocharging over supercharging, because you have to do all the same things, and turbochargers offer more flexibility.
Black_97'Z
11-05-2002, 01:00 PM
20's on an S10. :rolleyes: Get the S/C and save some face.
Black_97'Z
11-05-2002, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Cbass
Contrary to what most people believe, a supercharger is not a "bolt on" modification. If you're going to forced induction, there are tons of things that must be done, from lowering compression, to recalibrating your ECU.
Of course, you can supercharge it without doing these things, but don't expect too much extra performance, or your motor to last too long. I'll always recommend turbocharging over supercharging, because you have to do all the same things, and turbochargers offer more flexibility.
As long as his compression is 9.5:1 or even 10.0:1 he'll be ok. But only run 3 or 4psi at the most on stock internals and with 10.0:1 compression, if you run the intercooler also you will be fine. And a computer tune wouldn't be a bad idea. :)
Contrary to what most people believe, a supercharger is not a "bolt on" modification. If you're going to forced induction, there are tons of things that must be done, from lowering compression, to recalibrating your ECU.
Of course, you can supercharge it without doing these things, but don't expect too much extra performance, or your motor to last too long. I'll always recommend turbocharging over supercharging, because you have to do all the same things, and turbochargers offer more flexibility.
As long as his compression is 9.5:1 or even 10.0:1 he'll be ok. But only run 3 or 4psi at the most on stock internals and with 10.0:1 compression, if you run the intercooler also you will be fine. And a computer tune wouldn't be a bad idea. :)
Nitrous
11-05-2002, 01:21 PM
First off, nice ride. Im not too much into trucks, my head is stuck in the import clouds, but I know a sweet ride when I see one. As far as the exterior goes it looks fine like it is. If you do decide to get some new wheels, go with some 18's rather than 20's. Yea 20's look good and they bling bling and everything but I dont think its worth the performance loss as far as handling goes,ecspecially if your also thinking about adding some more horsepower. Personaly I would go with the supercharger cuz im more of a performance person. I can appreciate the show cars at most autoshows but to me a nice powerplant makes the vehicle just that much better. Just get whatever suits your needs the best and makes you happy. Cuz after all, its your ride, not anyone else's.
Cbass
11-05-2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Black_97'Z
As long as his compression is 9.5:1 or even 10.0:1 he'll be ok. But only run 3 or 4psi at the most on stock internals and with 10.0:1 compression, if you run the intercooler also you will be fine. And a computer tune wouldn't be a bad idea. :)
True, but what's the point of dropping $2K on a blower, however much to install it(especially if it's a "kit"), if you're only going to run a few lbs of boost? It's probably a good idea to drop the extra couple hundred to put some good pistons in it as well, I wouldn't trust stock pistons to handle the extra stress of the supercharger.
I'd check out what people are doing with Syclones and Typhoons, they were making 280hp stock out of those engines, and all the parts are available through your local GM dealer :D
As long as his compression is 9.5:1 or even 10.0:1 he'll be ok. But only run 3 or 4psi at the most on stock internals and with 10.0:1 compression, if you run the intercooler also you will be fine. And a computer tune wouldn't be a bad idea. :)
True, but what's the point of dropping $2K on a blower, however much to install it(especially if it's a "kit"), if you're only going to run a few lbs of boost? It's probably a good idea to drop the extra couple hundred to put some good pistons in it as well, I wouldn't trust stock pistons to handle the extra stress of the supercharger.
I'd check out what people are doing with Syclones and Typhoons, they were making 280hp stock out of those engines, and all the parts are available through your local GM dealer :D
DeViL
11-06-2002, 06:38 AM
go with some 18's rather than 20's
I might end up going with both, 18's on front and 20's on rear. Mainly because I've heard 20's will rub on the front.
20's on an S10. Get the S/C and save some face.
Don't give me that bs I've seen 22 inch wheels on the rear of an S-10 before as well. 20's are almost as common to see as 18's on an S-10.
True, but what's the point of dropping $2K on a blower, however much to install it(especially if it's a "kit"), if you're only going to run a few lbs of boost? It's probably a good idea to drop the extra couple hundred to put some good pistons in it as well, I wouldn't trust stock pistons to handle the extra stress of the supercharger.
Which has just leaned me more towards the wheels at this time. I don't have the money to spend on a million other things to help the supercharger.
I might end up going with both, 18's on front and 20's on rear. Mainly because I've heard 20's will rub on the front.
20's on an S10. Get the S/C and save some face.
Don't give me that bs I've seen 22 inch wheels on the rear of an S-10 before as well. 20's are almost as common to see as 18's on an S-10.
True, but what's the point of dropping $2K on a blower, however much to install it(especially if it's a "kit"), if you're only going to run a few lbs of boost? It's probably a good idea to drop the extra couple hundred to put some good pistons in it as well, I wouldn't trust stock pistons to handle the extra stress of the supercharger.
Which has just leaned me more towards the wheels at this time. I don't have the money to spend on a million other things to help the supercharger.
Black_97'Z
11-06-2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Cbass
True, but what's the point of dropping $2K on a blower, however much to install it(especially if it's a "kit"), if you're only going to run a few lbs of boost? It's probably a good idea to drop the extra couple hundred to put some good pistons in it as well, I wouldn't trust stock pistons to handle the extra stress of the supercharger.
I'd check out what people are doing with Syclones and Typhoons, they were making 280hp stock out of those engines, and all the parts are available through your local GM dealer :D
I can get a complete "kit" that comes with everything you need, and I mean everything, from Vortech with intercooler for 3K. And pick up almost 100rwhp from it on 4psi. I don't know about imports, but for late model domestics the S/C kits you can buy are made for a specific year and car platform.
Syclones and Typhoons are from the last generation of the S Truck series, and use a 4.3L turbo V6 combined with AWD.
True, but what's the point of dropping $2K on a blower, however much to install it(especially if it's a "kit"), if you're only going to run a few lbs of boost? It's probably a good idea to drop the extra couple hundred to put some good pistons in it as well, I wouldn't trust stock pistons to handle the extra stress of the supercharger.
I'd check out what people are doing with Syclones and Typhoons, they were making 280hp stock out of those engines, and all the parts are available through your local GM dealer :D
I can get a complete "kit" that comes with everything you need, and I mean everything, from Vortech with intercooler for 3K. And pick up almost 100rwhp from it on 4psi. I don't know about imports, but for late model domestics the S/C kits you can buy are made for a specific year and car platform.
Syclones and Typhoons are from the last generation of the S Truck series, and use a 4.3L turbo V6 combined with AWD.
BlkCamaroSS
11-06-2002, 07:07 PM
I'll take a Syclone or Typhoon anyday. That would be an awesome winter driver...
DeViL
11-06-2002, 07:31 PM
well all I gotta say is, we'll see. Regardless on what I decide I'm going to ask Procharger about the whole thing and see if its even worth it. Procharger is the only one so far that offers a Supercharger and Intercooler kit for the 99+ 4.3L V6.
BlkCamaroSS
11-06-2002, 07:35 PM
Good luck with it, hope you're happy with whatever you decide :D .
Cbass
11-06-2002, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Black_97'Z
I can get a complete "kit" that comes with everything you need, and I mean everything, from Vortech with intercooler for 3K. And pick up almost 100rwhp from it on 4psi. I don't know about imports, but for late model domestics the S/C kits you can buy are made for a specific year and car platform.
Syclones and Typhoons are from the last generation of the S Truck series, and use a 4.3L turbo V6 combined with AWD.
100 rwhp on a S10 from 4 psi? Explain to me how that works... :confused:
Yes, Syclones were the previous generation, but you should still be able to build a similar engine, using many of the same parts.
I can get a complete "kit" that comes with everything you need, and I mean everything, from Vortech with intercooler for 3K. And pick up almost 100rwhp from it on 4psi. I don't know about imports, but for late model domestics the S/C kits you can buy are made for a specific year and car platform.
Syclones and Typhoons are from the last generation of the S Truck series, and use a 4.3L turbo V6 combined with AWD.
100 rwhp on a S10 from 4 psi? Explain to me how that works... :confused:
Yes, Syclones were the previous generation, but you should still be able to build a similar engine, using many of the same parts.
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