How to make a Cavlier faster


Saturn
10-26-2002, 11:27 AM
My friend has a 1992 Chevorlet Cavlier, and he really wants to make it faster and more responsive, he doesnt have alot of money to spend, how can we help him?

flylwsi
10-26-2002, 12:41 PM
trade it in for a civic????


you could see what www.rksport.com has for ya, and i know that gm has an s/c but that's for the newer ones... i've seen them with turbos and what not, and sport compact car had a j-body special issue back last october ish... so you could check that out... it had a pretty good buyers guide for parts...

Cbass
10-27-2002, 06:19 AM
Tell him to find a Turbo Sunbird, they did make them. If you jump on it in the next 2 days, you can get this wrecked one on Ebay for $300... shipping would be another story though, it all depends on where you are.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871020897

r1dg3_rAc3r
10-27-2002, 09:58 AM
oh man cavvies :) back in the day.......

umm well i wouldnt trade it in for a civic, bleh.

here ask these people: www.cavalierperformance.com

handling was never really all that bad, especially on dirt roads, but i may be delusioned now that i have a rwd :). Acceleration was a different story. Anyway if i were him i wouldnt get too serious about modding the cav, just a dab here and there, i mean honestly itll be pretty hard to make it able to compete with whats out there today.

Cbass
10-27-2002, 11:10 AM
Well, the only cheap solution to power in a Cavalier is the turbo pontiac 2.2... that parts cars is $300, and the drivetrain and suspension will bolt into the cavalier...

dbartoschek
10-27-2002, 02:29 PM
couldn't you drop in an engine from a Z24? 3.1L 6?

1989CivicSi
10-27-2002, 03:18 PM
my friend has a 2000 Cavlier z24 and his done i/h/e, racing chip, short shifter, and and i think a msd iginition wires. He's spent about 1300 for all of this and i still beat him. i would sell it and buy a turbo car like a 1st generation eclipse, talon, or lasor. i know their reliabilty sux but you can spend like 300 and they would run in the low 13's, not like a honda which it cost like a bizzilion dollars tomake it run in the 14's :(

dbartoschek
10-27-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by 1989CivicSi
my friend has a 2000 Cavlier z24 and his done i/h/e, racing chip, short shifter, and and i think a msd iginition wires. He's spent about 1300 for all of this and i still beat him. i would sell it and buy a turbo car like a 1st generation eclipse, talon, or lasor. i know their reliabilty sux but you can spend like 300 and they would run in the low 13's, not like a honda which it cost like a bizzilion dollars tomake it run in the 14's :(

he's talking about a different generation of Cav. 2000 cav's don't have 3.1L 6's in them..they have 2.2 or 2.4L 4's

DblOvrhedCamron
10-28-2002, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by flylwsi
trade it in for a civic????

amen.

Cbass
10-29-2002, 02:42 AM
Yes, you could concieveably swap in a V6, even a Buick 3800 V6... if you put in a Buick 3800 SC and did a turbo conversion, you could make some good power. There are good aftermarket engine parts, including forged cranks, pistons and rods, all sorts of crazy stuff...

I would say the Sunbird would be the easiest solution... $300, and potential for 200hp just by upping the boost.

Monkey-Magic-S15-R
10-29-2002, 05:56 AM
remove the engine and push it down a hill ?

carrrnuttt
10-29-2002, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by dbartoschek
couldn't you drop in an engine from a Z24? 3.1L 6?

If you are talking about a Cavalier Z24, they had the 2.4 liter 4-cyl motors.

If you are referring to the Berretta Z26, it had the 3.1 liter V6 you are speaking of.

My suggestion though is swapping the same motor that was in my 1991 Berretta GTZ. It was called the QUAD4, and was rated at 180HP STOCK(it was closer to 190), while the most ANY of the V6's placed in the Berrettas had was 160HP...including the one placed in the GTZ's replacement, the Z26.

The Z24's actually had the same family motor but with an added balance rod to smooth-out the engine...which made it lose up to 40HP. Theoretically, with this rod disabled, you get the HP back.

Although I AM a Honda fan, the QUAD4 was comparable to the H22 VTEC Honda mill with 195HP(2.2 VS 2.4 liters)...AND it didn't have VTEC! PLUS, it was made by Chevy/GM of all things...if only they stuck with it...and placed it in a Fiero...imagine a CR-X with a Prelude engine...now imagine the same car with a mid-engine and RWD...[drool].

-The Stig-
10-30-2002, 01:35 AM
i've been promoting the Fiero since day one!!!


I love that little car! As i say, it was GM's answer to the CRX before there was a CRX (at least in america).

I personally think Pontiac was on a role with Fiero, look at the 87-88 GTs. Beautiful cars! But Fiero was cancelled... unfortunately.

R1-rider
10-30-2002, 01:43 AM
JUST ADD CHEAP PLASTIC GROUND EFFECTS AND A SHITTY FART CAN MUFFLER! THEN YOU ARE READY TO FIT RIGHT IN WITH ALL THE IMPORT RACERS!

Indecisive
10-30-2002, 02:08 AM
omg...I hate my cavalier....same year as what you're talking about. I'm so happy we got the 325i...it's older but it's a way better car....BMW'S FOR ME!!! No Thanks..I don't like RICE :D

Monkey-Magic-S15-R
10-30-2002, 04:49 AM
RICE please :o ok ok ok get rid of the cavalier and buy a cheap honda and spend money on engine first and rims and stuff like that no LIGHTS NO STICKERS unless you have that stuff and you race in lemans or are sponsored in some way by them THANKYOU

Cbass
10-30-2002, 09:47 PM
The Fiero is an awesome sports car, and has scads of performance potential.

The original Z24 Cavalier had a 3.1 liter MPF V6. A direct swap in is the 3400TDC, which has potential for nearly 300 hp... The Fiero shares the same basic drivetrain as the 3.1 Z24 cavalier, and the 3400TDC is a direct bolt in installation too.

Hey Redneck, check out this link

http://www.pelkie.com/fiero

Go to dual exhaust, remap the fuel and ignition(get a chip, for the ricer contingent), port and polish and this engine will make a happy 275hp. If anyone wants to build a Ferrari replica on a Fiero, use this engine. It's like a 6 cylinder Ferrari engine.

As for the Cavalier, you can bolt in all sorts of engines, but the easiest thing to do, would be to pick up a turbo sunbird from a wreckers...

dbartoschek
10-30-2002, 11:39 PM
Ok....up until 94 you could have the Cavalier with a 2.4L 4 banger.....Z-24's came with a 2.8 L V6 or 3.1L v6......i know this because my friend has owned 2 Z-24's...and knows alot about them....and loves them

DblOvrhedCamron
10-30-2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Monkey-Magic-S15-R
remove the engine and push it down a hill ?
lmao:D

Cbass
10-31-2002, 12:22 AM
Oops, forgot to mention! The Fiero GT shares the drivetrain with the EARLY Z24! The later Z24s used the 4 cylinder, and had less torque.

I meant to say the early Z24 used the 2.8, and later it was stroked to a 3.1

Anyhow, the Turbo Sunbird engine has a fair bit of potential...

Firebird
11-01-2002, 10:34 PM
I like the fiero too at one time someone made a 305 conversion for them you could do that but instead put in a 350 (they are the same size) and the aftermarket for a 350 is huge! if you have a lot of money you could super charge it or just throw some spray at it (or both:devil: ) after that you could get some Eibach's or some other companies performance springs and some good shocks. then a pair of 17's with some BFG g force kdws's or other performance tire. that car would kick ass in a straight line and in the turns. :cool: plus in a car that light you could run fairly mild gears and fuel inject the 350 and probibly still make 25-30mpg:D

Cbass
11-02-2002, 06:04 PM
Yes, a number of people make V8 conversions for Fieros. The best known is V8 Archie in Chicago, he's been doing these since the 80s :D

I'd rather have the 3400TDC, because it's more of a sports car engine... really high revving, lots of horsepower, but enough displacement to give it nice torque.

www.v8archie.com

Cbass
11-02-2002, 06:07 PM
http://www.v8archie.com/dburns.htm

-Josh-
11-03-2002, 01:30 AM
I don't think the 3800 V6 would fit in the Cav. would it, anyway i would much rather have have the 2.4 ltre. Z24 than some sh#$$* ass 115 hp civic, the Z24 packs 150 HP then add 30-50% more horsepower getting it supercharged and you have one heck of an import killer. Wave bye bye to that pretty S2000 :D

Cbass
11-03-2002, 02:40 AM
The buick isn't any bigger than the 60 degree, so I'm pretty sure you could fit one in there. OTHO, why? The cav isn't that light, and the engine would be much more at home in the Fiero anyways, it's got better handling and can put the power down a lot easier.

Supercharged series 2 buicks are common swaps for the Fiero, and it really wakes the car up. The reason I prefer the 3400TDC is because it's a larger V6 version of the quad 4, or a smaller more rev happy version of the Northstar, take your pick.

Building one to do 8000 rpm isn't much of a chore, and they make 300hp at that level. The 3.4 DOHC engine was planned as the replacement F body engine in the late 80s, but same story with the SVO Mustang, us ironheads wanted V8s :p

A V8 belongs in a Camaro, but a really smooth high revving engine like the 3400 TDC belongs in a sports car, not a W-body :(

Nitrous
11-06-2002, 01:09 AM
Aight. I know im gonna sound stupid. But can someboyd please tell me what the hell rice means.

Cbass
11-06-2002, 02:32 AM
You do realize you've just started a flame war. :rolleyes:

The term rice means different things to different people. To some, it means any imported car, specifically Japanese cars.

To others, it means any modified import, specifically Japanese.

But to most, the term "rice" means modifying the car to look fast, when it is not fast. For instance, giant spoilers, that don't do anything. Heavy, non functional body kits that emulate race cars, or at least race car themes(huge air scoops that do nothing). Often rice is lowered, through the means of cheap or cut coils, to achieve that "race car" look.

www.ricecop.com

dustinw
05-23-2003, 10:50 PM
i have a 92 cavalier RS, 3.1L v6, over 375,000 kilometres on it, the engine is still fine, but the body is rotting to shit

z33_Tec
05-24-2003, 06:13 PM
I have a 2000 Cavalier, 2.2L l4. Without doing an engine swap, what would its possibilities be in 1/4 mile time? Its an automatic. I know it wouldnt be fast or anything but im just curious as if I should put any money into the engine at all or just go for audio and looks. I would start with intake/exhaust, the basics. But I dont feel like wasting $300 dollars on those parts if its not worth it at all. I dont go to the track and do legit 1/4 mile racing at all, I was just looking for a little more quickness for street racing. From what it sounds like, its probably not worth doing anything to the engine and ill probably just go with audio/exterior looks. Any feedback is greatly appreciated(Except those import only guys who will tell me to get a civic, ya I like civics, but im not getting one right now :bandit: )

Polygon
05-25-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Monkey-Magic-S15-R
remove the engine and push it down a hill ?

Why would you want to keep the engine? It is made by Opel. The engine is the problem, and I would say, don't waste you time hopping up the Cav.

z33_Tec
05-25-2003, 11:57 PM
Because engine swaps are expensive :( :cry: :help:

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