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assad_l
05-06-2007, 06:52 AM
how much work is in converting a sr20de to turbo? and is it expensive??

thanks in advance.

wanaplay134
05-06-2007, 10:50 PM
well if your buying the s13 you would have to swap the sr20de in and then turbo it that would be be a major waste of money.

buy the sr20det you can get then to your door for 2k or less in great shape, or keep you ka24de and turbo it make double the horsepower of a sr20det and blow people away

93-240SX-COUPE
05-07-2007, 04:16 AM
or keep you ka24de and turbo it make double the horsepower of a sr20det and blow people away

Shit yeah! What turbo setup can I slap on to make 400 HP?

assad_l
05-07-2007, 07:33 AM
im in australia and you cant drive a turbo car for the first 2 years of having your lisence so im going to buy a non turbo s13, and a few months after having it i wouldnt mind throwing a t28 on it.. so how much work is involved and how much does it cost??

Greenblurr93
05-07-2007, 11:19 AM
thats a wierd law.. anyway for the price of an ok turbo kit.. eh $1000 - $1500 USD. or sell the sr20, and buy a newer, fresher sr20det for about 2500 usd..

naruto
05-08-2007, 06:54 AM
Dude search on forums dedicated to that engine such as http://www.sr20forum.com/
http://www.nissansilvia.com/

You'll get a much better answer but remember to search first or you're just gonna get flamed.

I'm from OZ too and think the laws are there for a reason I too am a P plater.

IMO i think you're a fool if you're going to +T your S13 when/if you get one. You've already written off your N13 Pulsar I can't even begin to imagine you with a HIGH powered RWD.

I'm probably going to get flamed for saying what is above but i really think you should wait till your off your reds.

assad_l
05-08-2007, 07:40 AM
ummmm it got written off when i wasnt driving!! someone smashed into it when it was parked... dont judge ppl you dont know noob..

naruto
05-08-2007, 07:24 PM
Yeah alright i apologize for judging but i honestly believe you will write of your S13. A +T on an SR20 in a Pulsar will easily get you 150+kw ATW, not sure how much loss you'd get through the drive train on the S13 but thats still a lot of power for a noob on the road.

I want a turbo RWD too but just wait, get the S13 now or when you're ready, do your 2 years(whilst saving money) then BAM you're a mature drive ready to handle a high powered RWD vehicle.

I may sound like a knob writing all this but I'm just trying to obey the law's. Take it how ever you want but I'm not trying to be offensive.

slideways...
05-08-2007, 09:07 PM
KA-T FTW!!!!!111!!!1!!!!!!!1one

wanaplay134
05-10-2007, 12:24 AM
all i know is my buddy has a 92 hatch with a sr20det with a t28, front mount, manifold, turbo elbow, exhaust and more..

i have a 92 hatch with a ka24de with a top mount manifold a turbonetics t3/t4 downpipe exhaust, front mount, tial wastegate, safc, and im only running 10lbs and hes runing 17lbs,

and i pull him like hes standing still everytime, it pisses him off cause my motor is still all stock from top too bottom and has 150k miles on it.

i told him im probally making about 350 to the wheels and hes maybe 200 to the wheels. but we will find out in about 2 weeks when we go to get dyno tuned.

nissanfanatic
05-10-2007, 09:53 PM
Seriously.. Not every young person is a bad driver. You probably don't believe in Bush's war "strategery", so why do you believe the bullshit propaganda put out by insurance companies on how every young driver is a bad driver?

Per capita, I have more problems from "seasoned veterans" who lack the attention to detail because they are too convinced that they know what is going on to pay attention.. They are too relaxed behind the wheel and make stupid mistakes.

I boosted my car maybe two weeks after I turned eighteen and made 400whp+ before I was twenty. I went over 150mph before I turned 20 as well..

I had one failure to obey a traffic control device which was due to a fucking semi in downtown traffic that I couldn't see around causing me to take the safe route and not slam on my brakes, ending up in the middle of an intersection, thus running a yellow light, and receiving a bullshit ticket. Sometimes safety does outweigh the law, but not to traffic cops. Either way, I'd rather just pay a ticket than potentially ruin someone else's day by causing an accident trying to "obey the law"...

Zero accidents. Numerous accidents avoided thanks to driving abilities gained in performance driving practice in legal and non-legal environments, and a year of driving underage and practicing driving techniques every weekend on backroads until I got my license.

Drivers who drive fast on the street and understand the risks, are more often than not, much safer than any old shmuck. Drivers who do so are more familiar with the limits of their car than those who don't. Knowing the limit is knowing what you can do in a crunch to achieve the best possible outcome for you and whoever else is involved. Since you are going to encounter these problems on the street, taking turns fast, threshold braking from high speed, and accelerating fast on the street, are all crucial to knowing the limit of your vehicular package. Of course, aside from the limit of your car, you will also encounter the limit of yourself as a driver. By finding the limit of yourself, you can assess what should be done to raise this limit, and what areas should be assessed more than others to make you an overall good driver. The street introduces many elements and obstacles that cannot be reproduced in a simulated environment.

In no way do I support weaving in and out of traffic on a busy highway. I generally do my exploring on rural roads that provide a somewhat difficult setting where there are minimal risks of encountering other commuters.

A good driver is always trying to improve their abilities by constantly exploring the limits of their car and applying acquired techniques to everyday driving to make them second nature. You will know when you are a good driver when you control your car without thinking in a crunch. Then right after, you will begin to think about why you just did that...

Hit_N_Run-player
05-11-2007, 01:59 AM
Seriously.. Not every young person is a bad driver. You probably don't believe in Bush's war "strategery", so why do you believe the bullshit propaganda put out by insurance companies on how every young driver is a bad driver?

Per capita, I have more problems from "seasoned veterans" who lack the attention to detail because they are too convinced that they know what is going on to pay attention.. They are too relaxed behind the wheel and make stupid mistakes.

I boosted my car maybe two weeks after I turned eighteen and made 400whp+ before I was twenty. I went over 150mph before I turned 20 as well..

I had one failure to obey a traffic control device which was due to a fucking semi in downtown traffic that I couldn't see around causing me to take the safe route and not slam on my brakes, ending up in the middle of an intersection, thus running a yellow light, and receiving a bullshit ticket. Sometimes safety does outweigh the law, but not to traffic cops. Either way, I'd rather just pay a ticket than potentially ruin someone else's day by causing an accident trying to "obey the law"...

Zero accidents. Numerous accidents avoided thanks to driving abilities gained in performance driving practice in legal and non-legal environments, and a year of driving underage and practicing driving techniques every weekend on backroads until I got my license.

Drivers who drive fast on the street and understand the risks, are more often than not, much safer than any old shmuck. Drivers who do so are more familiar with the limits of their car than those who don't. Knowing the limit is knowing what you can do in a crunch to achieve the best possible outcome for you and whoever else is involved. Since you are going to encounter these problems on the street, taking turns fast, threshold braking from high speed, and accelerating fast on the street, are all crucial to knowing the limit of your vehicular package. Of course, aside from the limit of your car, you will also encounter the limit of yourself as a driver. By finding the limit of yourself, you can assess what should be done to raise this limit, and what areas should be assessed more than others to make you an overall good driver. The street introduces many elements and obstacles that cannot be reproduced in a simulated environment.

In no way do I support weaving in and out of traffic on a busy highway. I generally do my exploring on rural roads that provide a somewhat difficult setting where there are minimal risks of encountering other commuters.

A good driver is always trying to improve their abilities by constantly exploring the limits of their car and applying acquired techniques to everyday driving to make them second nature. You will know when you are a good driver when you control your car without thinking in a crunch. Then right after, you will begin to think about why you just did that...

i dont think i could have said it any better than that, thats exactly how i feel.

naruto
05-11-2007, 08:20 AM
I agree with what you have written although that is YOU. Someone may read what you have said and have that in their mind whilst thinking about doing something illegal or practicing driving techniques, they may do "whatever" once then think to themselves "that was easy, I'll try doing it again" then they may push themselves too hard and endanger others.

The roads are just too unpredictable for a newbie to be driving a high powered vehicle. You may be forced into situations where you have to slam the brakes or quickly accelerate, if you were in a situation that required you to accelerate quickly the tail could snap out where as an N/A would just chirp or bog down.

But hey if you're confident and are road smart go for it, just don't be too over confident.

nissanfanatic
05-11-2007, 12:58 PM
just don't be too over confident

Exactly. Confidence is a killer. You should just be good, not think you are.

nissanfanatic
05-11-2007, 04:53 PM
Someone may read what you have said and have that in their mind whilst thinking about doing something illegal or practicing driving techniques, they may do "whatever" once then think to themselves "that was easy, I'll try doing it again" then they may push themselves too hard and endanger others.

That is not an issue with high powered cars on the street. That is an issue with proper driver preparation, skill, and a basic understanding of vehicle physics.

Here is a basic troubleshooting approach to the problem.

Some people crash when street racing. 1
Put someone else in the same situation(racing on the street). No crash.. Ok 2
Put a rated skilled driver in the same situation. No crash 3
Put a poor driver in the situation. Crash. 4

What is the common denominator here? It is not racing on the street or youth. It is poorly educated drivers. Whether or not they are experienced, a basic education(vehicle physics, regaining traction loss, threshold breaking, steering/acceleration/brake modulation in limit situations, ect) would benefit them much more than even 15 years of experience on the road with the education a normal American is sent out on the road with today. The approach of more severe punishment for racing on the street, speeding, and reckless driving is not working. An in-balance in society(more authority) only creates more racing as a equilibrium. This is true for everything on earth.

What is not being balanced is automobile crashes. They increase more and more every year. It could be a result of more and more drivers. But per capita, why are there many less crashes in European countries where roads are more challenging to control your vehicle on and there is even less authority plus higher speed limits..?? Better driver education and higher costs to obtain a driver's license.

If the majority of money spent to catch illegal racers, speeders, and basic traffic offenders were spent on more advanced driver education, I would guarantee less crashes even with less traffic cops on the streets. Nobody wants to get in a crash and everybody tries to avoid one no matter who you are. The problem lies within each individual knowing what to do in that instance.. The only thing you learn in a basic defensive driving class in America is increase following distance, look for cars coming, fasten your seat belt and don't drink and drive. Where are the things that matter(vehicle physics, regaining traction loss, threshold breaking, steering/acceleration/brake modulation in limit situations, ect)...??

slideways...
05-11-2007, 05:36 PM
i can summarize this in one sentence:
high school girls are the sole reason why 16-21 yr olds have statistically the highest accident rate.

slideways...
05-11-2007, 05:37 PM
moral of the story: dont drive like a high school girl.

nissanfanatic
05-13-2007, 04:55 PM
Bad drivers are the reason why rates are so high.

Bad drivers are weeded out of the middle aged and senior age groups because they get too many charges filed by the time they are in their middle age...

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