The Fast and The Furious 2 spy photos


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igor@af
10-10-2002, 10:38 PM
Someone had sent us a set of photos through anonymous email earlier today. These are claimed to be FAF2 spy photos, and they appear to be exactly that. :eek:


http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/1.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/2.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/3.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/4.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/5.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/6.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/7.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/8.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/9.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/10.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/11.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/12.jpg

KeGrO
10-11-2002, 12:38 AM
if i won the lotto right now i'd know where half of it would go right now. but im not old enough for that yet. damn, i hope faf2 is a little more realistic than the first. but its gotta be a better movie, just look at those cars!

Tuarus SHO
10-11-2002, 01:18 AM
Definetly, the cars look way better. I don't know about that pink one though:smoka:

unconvinced
10-11-2002, 01:42 AM
Oh, that's for Barbie's cameo. Have they come up with 'Fast & Furious Barbie' yet?

(Actually, that reminds me of a girl I once knew...)

gtrsk8er
10-11-2002, 03:31 AM
that movie will be mad! does anyone know what those yellow cars are on the top of the truck in one of the photo's? are they vipers?

BlaxicanYIIK
10-11-2002, 03:42 AM
Look at those beautiful Skylines! And they'll have Vipers in the movie too! Yep, this movie is gonna be pretty good just based on the cars alone.

Grendel
10-11-2002, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by igor@af
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/7.jpg



What is this? An APC sticker on a Skyline? That deeply saddens me :(

-Grendel

Grendel
10-11-2002, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by gtrsk8er
that movie will be mad! does anyone know what those yellow cars are on the top of the truck in one of the photo's? are they vipers?

I'm 99% sure they are vipers... :)

-Grendel

gtrsk8er
10-11-2002, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by Grendel



What is this? An APC sticker on a Skyline? That deeply saddens me :(

-Grendel


look at the whole paint job on the car! how can they turn an already very aggressive looking sports car and make it look like a r!ced up civic?!?

tenzoracerevovii
10-11-2002, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by gtrsk8er



look at the whole paint job on the car! how can they turn an already very aggressive looking sports car and make it look like a r!ced up civic?!?

cuz APC is involved..........:D

Ssom
10-11-2002, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Grendel


I'm 99% sure they are vipers... :)

-Grendel

They are Vipers indeed.......Also that S2000 is gh3y

gtrsk8er
10-11-2002, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi


They are Vipers indeed.......Also that S2000 is gh3y

LOL...i know ey!

thaa
10-11-2002, 07:35 AM
OH MY GOD!


those skylines... nasty bodywork! could be a fun movie thou..

BingBingMa
10-11-2002, 08:54 AM
this really pisses me off, thye have a lot of nice cars, but they all look so ugly, grey with blue racing stripes? and an apc sticker? thats like pissing on a skyline at a nissan dealership, if apc made one piece of performance equipment for a r34, i would crawl on the floor and drink motor oil, adn the vipers look pretty gay too, not only do the rear lights make them loo like chrysler's,. but they only make 500 hp out of 8.1 litres, quite symbolic of american gluttony and inefficiency.

big bad jon
10-11-2002, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by BingBingMa
this really pisses me off, thye have a lot of nice cars, but they all look so ugly, grey with blue racing stripes? and an apc sticker? thats like pissing on a skyline at a nissan dealership, if apc made one piece of performance equipment for a r34, i would crawl on the floor and drink motor oil, adn the vipers look pretty gay too, not only do the rear lights make them loo like chrysler's,. but they only make 500 hp out of 8.1 litres, quite symbolic of american gluttony and inefficiency.

i agree about the skylines... but not really about the vipers... those are badass...

hemicuda1313
10-11-2002, 10:32 AM
You guys might not have to worry about the colors on some of those cars. I remember before the first movie came out the cars were not the colors they ended up in the movie. So they may get repainted. Plus the APC thing...sponsors will probably be cover up. Except for movie sponsors. So hopefully this one will be better. Ive heard alot about more Euro car but there arent any picured there so....

big bad jon
10-11-2002, 10:39 AM
yah, i also heard about the euro cars... there was supposed to be some gang that only drove euro cars or something like that... interested to see what horrors befell the euros... :crying:

vueman
10-11-2002, 02:49 PM
Man, those GTR are just SICK!

meangreen94z
10-11-2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by BingBingMa
this really pisses me off, thye have a lot of nice cars, but they all look so ugly, grey with blue racing stripes? and an apc sticker? thats like pissing on a skyline at a nissan dealership, if apc made one piece of performance equipment for a r34, i would crawl on the floor and drink motor oil, adn the vipers look pretty gay too, not only do the rear lights make them loo like chrysler's,. but they only make 500 hp out of 8.1 litres, quite symbolic of american gluttony and inefficiency.

This coming from some one driving a Protege. Funny the only people who make remarks about efficiency have no idea how an engine work and drive a slow turd.

Swoxy
10-11-2002, 04:27 PM
Wow!

tonioseven
10-11-2002, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by BingBingMa
this really pisses me off, thye have a lot of nice cars, but they all look so ugly, grey with blue racing stripes? and an apc sticker? thats like pissing on a skyline at a nissan dealership, if apc made one piece of performance equipment for a r34, i would crawl on the floor and drink motor oil, adn the vipers look pretty gay too, not only do the rear lights make them loo like chrysler's,. but they only make 500 hp out of 8.1 litres, quite symbolic of american gluttony and inefficiency. It's quite an experince to drive one!!! It'll make a believer out of you!!:cool:Not all Americans are gluttonous and inefficient; as small as my paycheck is, I've become quite efficient:p I do agree with you on the complete defamation of those Skylines! You would think they would have learned a thing or two from the first movie but I guess not! Let's pray that they at least have a decent storyline/script/acting/soundtrack!!!

DMC12
10-11-2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by igor@af
These are claimed to be FAF2 spy photos, and they appear to be exactly that.
Thank you Igor for the chance to see more spy photos:) I'm sure the movie will be very entertaining. My $.02 is that they should have used a different car as the lead, but hey "to each his own":smoker2:

Black_97'Z
10-11-2002, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by BingBingMa
but they only make 500 hp out of 8.1 litres, quite symbolic of american gluttony and inefficiency.

When will you rice boys learn that HP per Liter means NOTHING!!!! Hp to weight and RWHP is what counts, and the Viper is 8.0L. I'm sure that the Dodge engineers were going for that massive TQ that 8.0L can produce not huge HP above 500.

kris
10-11-2002, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Black_97'Z


When will you rice boys learn that HP per Liter means NOTHING!!!! Hp to weight and RWHP is what counts, and the Viper is 8.0L. I'm sure that the Dodge engineers were going for that massive TQ that 8.0L can produce not huge HP above 500.


Lets keep the posts about the topic, not about each other please.

oneplus68urmom
10-11-2002, 06:18 PM
I'd have to say those are some nice cars...i dont really like the modifications done to them..such as paint jobs n else...is that really an EVOVII?? now thats a bad ass car other than the r34 ...hopefully the movie comes out to be good n not ricey and lame..

Evomaniac
10-11-2002, 06:53 PM
actually the pic's are from http://community.webshots.com/album/51581584Pjgplk thought you should know.:smoker2: by the way i was there in the making when they were shooting it.

ArtemisEntreriR34
10-11-2002, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by BingBingMa
this really pisses me off, thye have a lot of nice cars, but they all look so ugly, grey with blue racing stripes? and an apc sticker? thats like pissing on a skyline at a nissan dealership, if apc made one piece of performance equipment for a r34, i would crawl on the floor and drink motor oil, adn the vipers look pretty gay too, not only do the rear lights make them loo like chrysler's,. but they only make 500 hp out of 8.1 litres, quite symbolic of american gluttony and inefficiency.

I agree about the skyline's looking bad, but the viper isn't that bad looking. And when you talk about "American" gluttony, even with the V10 8.3 L engine, it weights 300 pounds less than an R34 Skyline.....
Americans are obviously doing something right. No way I am Pro-American cars, I am just Pro-High Performance cars, I don't believe that cars should be "dissed" because of where they come from, thats just stupid. Also, something I forgot to mention, the bigger engines aren't just for HP its for massive amounts of Torque. :evillaugh

longlivetheZ
10-11-2002, 08:28 PM
I don't think the Lines were that bad looking. I hope they play a bigger part in this movie. If they had been a part in the last one, that RX-7 wouldn't have been the baddest racer. Hey Evomaniac....you really have a Skyline?

blindwhite
10-11-2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by BingBingMa
this really pisses me off, thye have a lot of nice cars, but they all look so ugly, grey with blue racing stripes? and an apc sticker? thats like pissing on a skyline at a nissan dealership, if apc made one piece of performance equipment for a r34, i would crawl on the floor and drink motor oil, adn the vipers look pretty gay too, not only do the rear lights make them loo like chrysler's,. but they only make 500 hp out of 8.1 litres, quite symbolic of american gluttony and inefficiency.

If that is true, then may the viper be the epitome of America and retardism for better engine performance. that means efficiency.

DeViL
10-12-2002, 12:04 AM
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Look at it this way, Chevrolet uses a 350 cubic inch engine, and the max horsepower they got out of the LS1 variation was 350 horsepower. The typical 427 of the 60's produced around 430 hp. Stop looking at it as Liters and look at it as cubic inches because liters seems to throw you people off. Only 500 hp out of 8 liters, what the hell do you mean only 500 hp. The engine is 500 cubic inches, and since most engines power doesn't go much above the ci of it, it should be around 500 hp. The engine isn't lacking anything at all so what are you complaining about. Keep in mind these engines are also single over head cam, a very basic V block and they can produce a lot more power then most of the DOHC engines you typically see on Japanese and European cars.

Sorry that this is off topic but its necessary.

Anyways lol I bet those 03 Vipers get their ass kicked by the Eclipses and the rest of the shit. I wouldn't be surprised with the attitude of "Super Rice Wing and NOS make me go Zoom, me go 1000 mph cuz me got 4 cylinder wheeee!!!". I'll just be in the theatre like...bullshit......bullshit.....bullshit......er rrr. Whats up with the pink S2000 though? I can understand it having a girl car that is pink, but damn they went all out, pink fuzzy seats and all wtf.

thrasher
10-12-2002, 03:20 AM
Well, to put it bluntly Devil, No, you are wrong. First off, A viper does not have a SOHC engine, it is OHV. This means that the engine block contains one overhead camshaft. SOHC means one camshaft per bank, which equals 2, and DOHC means 2 camshafts per bank, which equals 4. And yeah, 1 hp per ci might have cut it 20 years ago, but a decent engine makes much, much more than that. Let's look at a few examples.
1 Ferrari Enzo-366 CI=660HP 2 Aston Martin DB7-366 CI=414HP
3 Acura RSX-S-122 CI=200HP 4 Honda S2000-122 CI=240 HP
5 Nissan Max-213 CI=255HP 6 Acura TL-S-195 CI=260 HP
7 Porsche 911-219 CI=320HP 8 Toyota Celica GTS-109 CI=180HP
9 BMW M3-195 CI=333HP 10 Honda Accord EX-183 CI=240HP

You get the picture. And those aren't all even high performance vehicles, either. It is a commonly accepted fact that DOHC engines produce much more power than OHV, that is why more and more cars use them these days. American companies refuse to put them in some vehicles because it is much easier, not to mention cheaper to manufacture an engine that is much bigger with a lot less technology. I guarantee you that if a Viper engine (8.3 liter) was DOCH and was tuned to match European/Japanes specs, it could easily produce 800 hp.
I'm just saying that you have to look at reality here. Granted, a Viper has a lot of torque, but like I said, were it DOHC, it would have a whole h*ell of a lot more.
:flipa: :bandit:

blindwhite
10-12-2002, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by DeViL
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Look at it this way, Chevrolet uses a 350 cubic inch engine, and the max horsepower they got out of the LS1 variation was 350 horsepower. The typical 427 of the 60's produced around 430 hp. Stop looking at it as Liters and look at it as cubic inches because liters seems to throw you people off. Only 500 hp out of 8 liters, what the hell do you mean only 500 hp. The engine is 500 cubic inches, and since most engines power doesn't go much above the ci of it, it should be around 500 hp. The engine isn't lacking anything at all so what are you complaining about. Keep in mind these engines are also single over head cam, a very basic V block and they can produce a lot more power then most of the DOHC engines you typically see on Japanese and European cars.

Sorry that this is off topic but its necessary.

Anyways lol I bet those 03 Vipers get their ass kicked by the Eclipses and the rest of the shit. I wouldn't be surprised with the attitude of "Super Rice Wing and NOS make me go Zoom, me go 1000 mph cuz me got 4 cylinder wheeee!!!". I'll just be in the theatre like...bullshit......bullshit.....bullshit......er rrr. Whats up with the pink S2000 though? I can understand it having a girl car that is pink, but damn they went all out, pink fuzzy seats and all wtf.



How many people forget that power doesn't come from engine size?
Do you work in Detroit?
You can make the engine bigger and stronger, but it may not be the strongest and win a race.


First, the speed of the car in relation to it's engine is nothing if it can't put the power straight to the floor. You may say that the bigger ci engine produces more torque, but TOO MUCH torque means burn out. Burn out means that the tires' surface area overlapping the ground below is skidding over the ground, not gripping. And for those who never took physics, Surface area or section width of the tire plays no role in increasing or decreasing friction between the tire and ground for friction is constant, it only allows weight to be transferred over a greater area and better cooling of the tires so that they may last longer. Although, it is proven that more, yet just enough, torque is needed to accelerate faster out of a corner - being that the car is AWD. There is an issue out there on the magazine stands that shows tests on this with a Subaru Imprezza WRX (AWD), Acura RSX (FWD), and a BMW 3 series (RWD). In addition, remember that there is more friction with the ground when the tire is rolling and not skidding, hence why they created Anti-Lock Braking Systems for shorter stopping distances.


Second, doesn't anyone know that there is a column of air over a 100 miles up through the atmosphere for every square inch of ground that your car rolls on? That whole column or air produces 14.7 psi! Now your say to yourself, "where have I heard psi before?". Turbo's and Superchargers(or Blowers to you ci loving hotrodders) is what you come up with. Yes, you think of that because they are related. Your normally aspirated larger cc engine may suck in A LOT more AIR in regards to VOLUME and in relation to an engine half your size; but, going back to that column of air producing 14.7 psi, the large displacement engine's cylinders do not completely fill up its volume with air at BDC to have a pressure equal to the atmospheric pressure of 14.7 because of friction and air restrictions along the intake track. That 14.7 is what an engine performance tech would also call the Stoichiometric ratio. For every 14.7 parts of air you add/mix one part of Hydrocarbon. Meaning to say, that unless you are getting EXACTLY 14.7 parts of air in a cylinder, you do not add 1 part of fuel. 14.7 psi measured in the cylinder is 100% Volumetric Efficiency. Anything less that is definitely NOT 100%.

Now, I'd estimate that the single camshaft V engine has a volumetric efficiency of only 8-10psi(i dunno, correct me if I'm wrong), but it is definitely not 14.7. And what if you took a car with that engine to near Colorado Springs and drive it up that hill climb? You take that 500(bhp?) Viper up that hill the best you can and you'll never beat the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo which happens to be the fastest so far to get up there.
Reason for your poor performance? Inefficiency and the fact that at the end of the race you were producing 90 less horsepower.

On the other hand, if you take the Skyline GT-R tuned to 500hp or more up that hill, then you'll make it up there faster then your previous trial with the Big Block, and probably with enough gas to beat the Big Block down the hill. Reason for this Skyline victory is because on it's way up the hill it maintained as close as possible it's Volumetric Efficiency. As a matter of fact, it doing 500+ hp says that it is doing more work than at 100% 14.7 psi. It may be taking in a volumetric efficiency of 25psi. 14.7 plus 14.7 is nearly 30psi. That's like having TWO engines IN ONE. No wonder the Small volume High performance DOHC engine is beating the Single V Big Block. Its working more to fill it's cylinders with air two times more than itself, and three times more than the Big Block. At the top of that hill, the Skyline will still be producing 500 hp because it's lungs are still drawing in 25 or so psi, as compared to the Big Block Single camshaft drawing in less.


Third, if you want to measure ci to hp ratios then here is your Final Thought. You say the Dodge Viper has an engine of 8 Litres. 8 times 61 is 488. That means the engine is 488 cubic inches. The horsepower is 500(bhp?). That leaves us with a ratio of 1.02 hp per cubic inch.
Now, the Skyline GT-R R34 has an engine of 2.6 Litres. 2.6 times 61 is 158. That gives us an engine that is 158 cubic inches. The horsepower at stock is 280. That my steel junkie is a a ratio of 1.77hp per cubic inch. Does 1.77 look larger than 1.02 to you on the real number line?
How about if we take the Skyline GT-R around the Vipers ballpark? 316 cubic inches with 500+ Horsepower. The 8 litre beating Skyline has a power to volume ratio of ATLEAST 1.58 hp per cubic inch. My numbers may be off, but it still shows that 1.58 is greater than 1.02.
(Thanks to thrasher for additional info on other cars producing more than 1.02 hp per cubic inch. DOHC helps intake fullfill better volumetric efficiency).

Sorry this is off topic but its necessary.

If you don't understand a word I said, then just think about one thing:

Formula One
3.0 litre V-10 producing 800 Horsepower at 18,000 RPM.

Or, just ask what is hard to comprehend and I'm sure someone here will answer.

:eek: :D :flipa: :devil: :sun:

Fly Rice Racer
10-12-2002, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by igor@af
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/11.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/faf2/12.jpg

This is so wierd. When I first saw the pic of the eclipse i swore that it was the same on I saw at Nopi Nationals.

It looks like a reverse paint job. What do ya'll think?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/861094NOPI017.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/106448NOPI018.jpg

RyanM
10-12-2002, 10:56 AM
wow. very nice!

Midnight Racer
10-12-2002, 01:07 PM
The cars look way better.Love the Skylines.

blindwhite
10-12-2002, 02:13 PM
Reason why they have backwards paint jobs is because they are two different cars of course.
The one on the tow truck looks more stock, but focus on the wheels and front bumper kit.

The one on the lawn has a different bumper and wheels.


I never comented on the movie yet......geez.
The movie better be good and not have a drag race consisting of over a hundred cars lining the street this time. o.0'

Fly Rice Racer
10-12-2002, 02:24 PM
I realize that they are two different cars, but it's just wierd that they have the EXACT same paint job. It makes me wonder if it is either a Mitsubishi paint job idea or if the owner at NOPI saw some pics of the FAF2 car and decided to copy it.

It was just funny to me that I had seen that car before.

QuickSilverEF9
10-12-2002, 04:17 PM
Half of the members on AF are only here because of that whack movie.... Just check out the 92+ civic forum (don't get me wrong there are some pretty tight civics in that forum but there is also too much rice to throw a chop stick at.) The fact that they will now be using one of my favorite cars in that lame film comes as a sharp stinge of pain to my heart. Skylines are to beautiful to have stickers of cheap american companys that don't even make parts for that car plastered on them. The Fast and the Furious brought a plethorem of recognition to the import scene... but alot of the recognition is derived from cheap work and the false knowledge derived from the movie. Why make a sequel to a movie that was a peice of shit in the first place? Just my 2 cents

QuickSilverEF9
10-12-2002, 04:24 PM
BTW I meant half the japanese car enthusiusts when I was speaking ill of the Fast and the Furious. (How much do those altezzas add? Like 10hp?)

markpa
10-12-2002, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by QuickSilverEF9
Why make a sequel to a movie that was a peice of shit in the first place? Just my 2 cents
Why make a sequel well cause the first one made a shit load off money.

mhpspeed
10-12-2002, 10:43 PM
i just wanted to add that if this movie is like the first those cars engines will be comppletly stock except for a 4 inch exhaust to get a deep throaty sound. So those stickers will be on there only for looks, not because there on the car.

8ate8
10-13-2002, 01:40 AM
god you people arguing over the viper.. shut it.. if chrysler wanted a dinky little dohc 6cyl, they'd put it in another car.. the viper lives up to the muscle genre. a big ass engine making a butt load of torque.. that was it's main intent.. not to see how scientific they can get with the engine to pump out massive hp/l.

Fliquer
10-13-2002, 01:51 AM
Ok enough import/domestic bashing. They both have their strongpoints. Imports have engineering, domestics have perfomance-per-dollar. 'Nuff said

Anyway, I am hella disappointed that one of the main cars is not a WRX, but then again, that orange 240 is lookin mighty good.

blindwhite
10-13-2002, 04:54 AM
:rolleyes:

Right on Fliquer! :smoker2:

and WRX is bad ass engineering-for-the-buck, hehe
the performer on stage

RyanGiorgio
10-13-2002, 09:35 AM
If any of you are subscribe to Super Street magazine, last months issue featured Craig Leiberman's new car (owner of FnF1 supra). It is a 1999 Nissan Skyline, and in the article, it is said to be the next FnF2 main car. Check it out at: http://www.moviecarz.com

civicHBsi91
10-13-2002, 11:30 AM
the main car should deff be a non riced 4th gen civic hb :finger: , the skyline is cool i would like to see a 300zx or sumthing

Innotech
10-13-2002, 11:46 AM
My reaction is this. BETTER, much much better than FF1, but still, LOSE THE WING SPOILERS! It is positively pointless to have such a big wing on any street car, and the paint jobs have to go. I mightl ike it if it was grey stripes on a BLUE Skyline. the front airdam/splitter is asctrually not that bad here, but the wing just has to go. Also the rest of the cars look WAY overdone again. The pink S2000 looks OK at besy, gay at wirst, but it is going to be a chicks car you know. The Vipers, I really hope they are in it, because they are the one true bare bones sportscar in that movie.

TRD300EX14
10-13-2002, 12:08 PM
Well, one thing is better, they have cooler cars in this one. But not all of them are sweet. First off they Skylines look pretty hott, but there are too many stickers on it and in bad locations on the car. Next, that pink S2000 is gay as a mother, I've seen some pretty sweet ones that they could have chose. THEN I CANT BELIEVE THEY TOOK THOSE EVOLUTION VII'S AND TURNED THEM INTO THOSE UGLY ASS THINGS. What they hell is wrong with people, the Evo is the hottest car and they ruined the look of it with that gay paint job, stickers, rear spoiler. Who agrees on that? The others arent that bad, the eclipses, vipers, etc. They shouldn't of taken that supra, I have seen better. Hopefully we see a WRX in there and some other nice cars. Just hopefully no Civics or other dumb cars. Also, a sweet ass Celica would be good and a RSX Type S. I think they were looking at Rob Shaw's Impreza WRX to put in it and if you look at that car, it's the hottest WRX you will see. Check it out at imoprtstreet-south.com and go to featured cars.

TRD300EX14
10-13-2002, 12:10 PM
Rob Shaw's Impreza WRX.....
http://www.importspeed-south.com/rob-subaru.htm

-The Stig-
10-13-2002, 02:43 PM
I just hope all the people who get jazzed off this movie like they did the first dont think they can beat any high performance car such as the Viper.

I mean, we know why its there.. its going to have to lose right? We know the key cars will be the Skylines and the other exotic Imports...


Oh well, by the time this movie comes out. The Nova will most likely be back in operation to teach some little kids some lessons. :hehehe:

YellowJacketTT6
10-13-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Black_97'Z


When will you rice boys learn that HP per Liter means NOTHING!!!! Hp to weight and RWHP is what counts, and the Viper is 8.0L. I'm sure that the Dodge engineers were going for that massive TQ that 8.0L can produce not huge HP above 500.

Amen! My bike makes more HP per liter than most of the jap 4 bangers, but I'm not braggin.... i'm impressed when you can make a RELIABLE and LASTING 4 banger put out 300+ and drive it everyday.. props are given where earned.. and for the record.. im making 124 hp in 0.6 liters :smoka:

YellowJacketTT6
10-13-2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by thrasher
Well, to put it bluntly Devil, No, you are wrong. First off, A viper does not have a SOHC engine, it is OHV. This means that the engine block contains one overhead camshaft. SOHC means one camshaft per bank, which equals 2, and DOHC means 2 camshafts per bank, which equals 4

Um... OHV is Over head Valve.. camshaft is in "valley" and uses pushrods bro... cam is NOT on the head itself... and "This means that the engine block contains one overhead camshaft. " ????:confused:

if its in the block, it cant be over head.. over head means on the head.. sorry.. had to set this straight... anyways... who's goin to FF2 opening night? :finger:

civicHBsi91
10-13-2002, 06:48 PM
what wrong with civics? they need to have some non riced hb's in there 4th-6th gen those are the hottest hb's

YellowJacketTT6
10-13-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by civicHBsi91
what wrong with civics? they need to have some non riced hb's in there 4th-6th gen those are the hottest hb's

nothing at all.... I know a 93 turbo HB here in houston beating vipers and in the low low 10s... there is a difference.. there's tastefully done cars, then there is just plain riced... anyone else agree?

civicHBsi91
10-13-2002, 06:56 PM
they deff need to pull all the dumbass stickers off the cars take the altezzas off and get actors who actually can act like they know something about cars or let real street racers write the script make it alittle more realistic then that movie would be awesome

Fly Rice Racer
10-13-2002, 07:27 PM
Problem with that is if they make it more realistic and start throwing out all of these terms that no one but real racers understand then the avergae joe is gonna have no idea what they are talking about.

Just look at all of the people who said that their car had a Spoon engine in it after the original movie. They had no idea what it meant but it just sounded cool to say.

What's next? Is everyone gonna be saying that Mugen built their car?

On another note, I don't know why everyone is bashing Civic's. Honda must be doing something right if everyone is buying them.

civicHBsi91
10-13-2002, 07:38 PM
well older civics anyway the new ones are pretty ugly:finger: j/k the coupes are ok dont like the hb's or 4 doors and i only really like the black coupes the new accord is pretty ugly in my mind too but the performance is so good i would buy one anyway they stoped making preludes....:( i liked them

Fly Rice Racer
10-13-2002, 08:59 PM
Now was that really called for? I don't particularly like the new Si or any other hatchback, but i'm not about to go around bashing other peoples ride because that might be their thing.

But now, I really can say that your hatchback is fugly. None of this is meant towards any other 91 hb si owner. Only civicHBsi91, because he felt the need to open his mouth when it wasn;t needed. :flipa:

kris
10-13-2002, 09:01 PM
Question: Is anything made in hollywood realistic?

Fly Rice Racer
10-13-2002, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by kbslacker
Question: Is anything made in hollywood realistic?

MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

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