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primobro
01-31-2007, 07:05 PM
enjoy.............
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/55423905-a298-4559-953d-98c5016251c4.htm

GForce957
01-31-2007, 07:18 PM
not too shabby, what's done to the cobalt?

209 SRT
01-31-2007, 09:04 PM
wow...nice vid...

VR43000GT
01-31-2007, 09:56 PM
Hmmm. link did not work for me.

Mad_Maxima
01-31-2007, 10:17 PM
Hmmm. link did not work for me.

me either at first, just close the window and click again, worked for me.

2000LS1Z28
02-01-2007, 01:19 AM
I dunno why, but those cars just seemed slow.

-Jayson-
02-01-2007, 07:21 AM
your car? If so nice run

Chiquae07
02-01-2007, 08:30 AM
i think the stang is his. it says the ss is lithium's, and the mach 1 is primobro.

Musashi3000GT
02-01-2007, 11:35 AM
I dunno why, but those cars just seemed slow.

I didnt want to be the an ass and say nothing but since you already mentioned it they do seem kinda slow.
theres just no ferocity. Maybe if they went from a dig itd look a little faster.

209 SRT
02-01-2007, 11:39 AM
it probably looks that way cause they were so close....no bus lengths between them...

209 SRT
02-01-2007, 11:41 AM
sorry for the thread jack and totally off topic but just found interesting....
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=117762/pageNumber=1

GForce957
02-01-2007, 12:46 PM
sorry for the thread jack and totally off topic but just found interesting....
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=117762/pageNumber=1

Some of those times seemed a little slow. 7.5 seconds for a civic si? 7.1 for an s/c cobalt?

209 SRT
02-01-2007, 02:37 PM
same thing I thought....

98BlackTransAm
02-01-2007, 04:06 PM
it probably looks that way cause they were so close....no bus lengths between them...

that's what i was thinking,, plus the music kind of covered up the sound of the cars, so that kind of took away from the "ferocity" as well.

Masonovsky!
02-01-2007, 11:54 PM
Bia Bia!! sweet race...the cobalt held its own...

VR43000GT
02-02-2007, 01:09 AM
Nice vid. Too fast cars indeed.

2000LS1Z28
02-02-2007, 01:30 AM
I think the tall gearing in the Cobalt SS made them seem slow. It's kinda like the GTP's, as they aren't really rev monsters. I find myself shifting alot more then that Cobalt SS through the gears.

Zeiss
02-14-2007, 02:25 PM
nice race, I raced a modified mach 1 from a dig and it was a tough race, I did end up passing him but by then we were doing 100+

209 SRT
02-14-2007, 03:40 PM
do you have the tt r/t....

jeepgclwj
02-14-2007, 04:56 PM
By the looks of his exhaust I would say he is TT. The base model on up to the R/T had just 2 tips coming out of one side....R/T TT has the 4 tips and dual exhaust...

2000LS1Z28
02-14-2007, 08:48 PM
By the looks of his exhaust I would say he is TT. The base model on up to the R/T had just 2 tips coming out of one side....R/T TT has the 4 tips and dual exhaust...

Yeah, but the additional exhaust outlet is actually just a resonator. I have trouble believing an R/T TT can pass a Mach 1 after 100mph. They can certainly outlaunch a Mach1 on the street, but they have no power up top comparatively. My old R/T TT didn't have all that much power up top.

Mad_Maxima
02-14-2007, 08:53 PM
i think he had the regular DOHC N/A then turbo'd it, no AWD, could be another member though

209 SRT
02-14-2007, 09:05 PM
Yeah, but the additional exhaust outlet is actually just a resonator. I have trouble believing an R/T TT can pass a Mach 1 after 100mph. They can certainly outlaunch a Mach1 on the street, but they have no power up top comparatively. My old R/T TT didn't have all that much power up top.

really so the r/t and the vr4 dont have much of a top end.....hmmm....I thought they would....

pimp349
02-14-2007, 09:10 PM
Nice race...correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the MAch 1 have a lot of weight against it compared with cobalt?

jeepgclwj
02-14-2007, 09:19 PM
i think he had the regular DOHC N/A then turbo'd it, no AWD, could be another member though


I dont know if it's him or not but how much wieght dif. is there between the TT and n/a. The AWD has to be at least 400-500lbs heavier.

youngvr4
02-15-2007, 12:47 AM
it is about 500lbs heavier

and as far as power up top, they have plenty, i can go on for days about the cars i've pulled away from 100+mph one bieng a LS1 trans am, even until 140mph then pulled...and i was pretty much stock, besides air filter

320hp at 7000rpms, the power climbs right to the end....actually there monsters on the freeway....no cobra r, but there fast

2000LS1Z28
02-15-2007, 03:11 AM
it is about 500lbs heavier

and as far as power up top, they have plenty, i can go on for days about the cars i've pulled away from 100+mph one bieng a LS1 trans am, even until 140mph then pulled...and i was pretty much stock, besides air filter

320hp at 7000rpms, the power climbs right to the end....actually there monsters on the freeway....no cobra r, but there fast

Ehh it's not hard to pull an automatic equipped LS1. A stock 01/02 LS1 will put down a 104-107mph trap speed in the 1/4 mile, while a VR4 will hammer down a 101-103mph trap. The trap speed is illustrative of a car's power. Not saying you didn't beat an LS1 from a roll, but saying it was most likely an auto.

youngvr4
02-15-2007, 05:32 AM
The trap speed is illustrative of a car's power.

true, very true but obviously not everything to do with it. and your right, it probably was an auto, i also pulled on my dads C5 vette from a roll(auto), and also ran neck and neck with a C5 with exhaust, with my bpu's, and he was a stick.

but we cant compare tune for tune can we:icon16:

no but really, it really tends to get more and more powerfull the higher in speed...not to mention a pretty high top speed...but that also has a lot to do with aero and long gears

i'm really just clearing things up for 209, there not slow on a roll...most cars cant keep up within my 3rd gear range up to 125mph. just for an example a bpu 300zxtt that beat me by a car length up to about 120mph. i had no b/c at the time..i killed a evo8 on a roll and a nsx on a roll with stock boost. but i couldnt catch a cobra up to 135mph....that might give you some insight on what i mean by not slow but not the fastest from a roll either

Zeiss
02-15-2007, 11:07 AM
I have trouble believing an R/T TT can pass a Mach 1 after 100mph. They can certainly outlaunch a Mach1 on the street, but they have no power up top comparatively.

Mine cant outlaunch a Mach1, Im converted TT so im FWD, higher compression and bigger turbos and alot of mods though :wink: It took me a while to catch up after my shitty take off, especially with the tires I had at the time.. Although I raced the mach1 and a mod'd LS1 from a roll and I was gone in a heartbeat :icon16: Regular RT/TTs and Vr4s are no joke from a roll either, it depends on their condition and mods.

98BlackTransAm
02-15-2007, 05:58 PM
and as far as power up top, they have plenty, i can go on for days about the cars i've pulled away from 100+mph one bieng a LS1 trans am, even until 140mph then pulled...and i was pretty much stock, besides air filter

was the t/a stock? i'd be happy to give you a run if you werent on the opposite side of the continent hah. i still have yet to run a vr4 of any kind. one of my buddy's friends has a black one i think 97, but he "doesn't like to race it" :rolleyes: perhaps he has a ({})

Mr. Luos
02-15-2007, 06:07 PM
i'd be happy to give you a run
ME!!!! ME!!!!!

youngvr4
02-15-2007, 06:53 PM
was the t/a stock? i'd be happy to give you a run if you werent on the opposite side of the continent hah. i still have yet to run a vr4 of any kind. one of my buddy's friends has a black one i think 97, but he "doesn't like to race it" :rolleyes: perhaps he has a ({})

:lol: i'm gonna have to use that...that just might be sig material
i wish you lived over here, i haven't raced in a long time

yea he was stock also(i think) not sure, it was a guy who was at the street races who was talkin sh!t about my car was just another slow japanese rice. and after i left and took my girl home, i got back on the freeway and seen him...i knew it was him cause of his flames he had going down the sides of his car

i actually started about 2 car lengths behind him and by 145mph i was in front and by i believe was 150mph(not exactly sure i stoped looking at the speed and payed more attention to the road) i had a car length on him

2000LS1Z28
02-15-2007, 09:03 PM
Ehh VR4's are dangerous on the street. Any car with AWD is gonna have an advantage over a rwd car, considering how most people don't have time to heat up their drag radials. I just know that my former Stealth ran out of gas up top compared to my LS1.

209 SRT
02-16-2007, 10:47 AM
^^^^maybe cause you where driving on "E" duuuhhhhhh.....

pimp349
02-17-2007, 04:28 PM
....but he "doesn't like to race it" :rolleyes: perhaps he has a ({})

HAHAHA

2000LS1Z28
02-17-2007, 04:30 PM
^^^^maybe cause you where driving on "E" duuuhhhhhh.....

:rofl:

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