Best Sleeper In STOCK Form


Seanpm
01-18-2007, 10:35 PM
I have read alot of threads asking "What is the best sleeper car?". And havent come across one yet that hasnt been answered with, "This is the best sleeper car but you need these mods?"

Well I want opinions on the best sleeper car in stock form, that can be purchased for less than 20k right now. New or used it doesnt matter! Whats everyones opinion?

BurntGauge
01-18-2007, 10:41 PM
Debadged M5?

BlackGT2000
01-18-2007, 11:09 PM
I would say something like a grand national/regal T-type or one of those old turbo omnis.

Schister66
01-19-2007, 01:56 AM
i would like to think that my car is a pretty good sleeper...i've caught a few LS1s off guard as well as an STi and Evo 8...they take me on the launch, but i catch up fast :grinyes:

My reasoning is that most people assume that my car is going to be just another ricer w/ a fartcan...they never expect 320+whp...lol

DinanM3_S2
01-19-2007, 02:33 AM
I don't like the term sleeper. Its pretty difficult to keep someone who is knowledgeable about cars from figuring out if a car is modded or not.

Also, one man's sleeper is another man's obvious performance car. The less knowledgeable V6 Mustang owner might be completely suprised when he gets beaten by a VW GTI or a tuned Civic, thus making the GTI or the Civic a sleeper in his eyes, while a Ferrari owner might be completely caught be suprise by a Buick GNX, making it a good sleeper as well. Because of this, there is no perfect or best "sleeper" car.

Just about any car can be a sleeper if you want. Just find something that isn't commonly used. By now most of us have seen the videos of the Dodge Caravan beating up Camaros, or the VW Golf (not a GTI) putting down a thousand horsepower.

Finally, whats the point of a sleeper anyways? Does it really matter if you catch someone by suprise? Just because a Corvette owner doesn't expect a BMW M5 to keep up with it doesn't make the Corvette any more or less of a car. At a drag strip or a track, people expect competition from anything and everything, so it won't really help to have a less common car.

My advise is that if you want a high performance car, ignore the looks and find something that is easily capable of big numbers. Who cares if people expect a WRX or a 240sx to be modified? If they are actually racing they will get the same result.

Schister66
01-19-2007, 09:21 AM
You do have a good point. I didnt intend my car to be a "sleeper" but i haven't done anything to actively advertise that i have stuff done to the car....tell me what you would think...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/Morepics028-2.jpg

Muscletang
01-19-2007, 11:34 AM
RS8 Ford Focus (http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/rs8/)

The only problem is trying to muffle the sound.

drunken monkey
01-19-2007, 11:49 AM
RS8 Ford Focus (http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/rs8/)

The only problem is trying to muffle the sound.

well, the car looks exactly like the Focus RS which isn't exactly a slug y'know...

Polygon
01-19-2007, 02:10 PM
Simple, in stock form a Turbo Mopar is one of the best sleepers.

Mcloud1
01-23-2007, 08:07 PM
I say either a Mercury Marauder (2003) or a Ford Taurus SHO, since they are based off of cars that have a "bland" reputation.

72' Stang 351 H/O
02-16-2007, 10:24 AM
60's Camaro with a 396. 60's Mustang with a 428? Ford Maverick with a 351.

blakscorpion21
02-16-2007, 10:33 AM
^ your kidding right.

klohiq
02-18-2007, 05:10 PM
I say either a Mercury Marauder (2003) or a Ford Taurus SHO, since they are based off of cars that have a "bland" reputation.

A lot of people know what an SHO is and what it's capable of. Though it does have 4 doors and it does say taurus on the back so I bet a lot of people would be caught off guard.

A GMC Typhoon or Cyclone gets my vote, hardly anyone really knows about them and even if they do they usually don't know how fast they are. 0-60 around 6 seconds, quartermile in less than 14 seconds.

http://www.ajeepthing.com/images/gmc-typhoon.jpg

looks like an old POS blazer to me :naughty:

BP2K2Max
02-18-2007, 07:02 PM
Subaru forester XT. 0-60 in 5.3 seconds 1/4 in 14 seconds. who'd ever expect a forester to be that quick?

sickcallawayc12
02-18-2007, 11:30 PM
Subaru forester XT. 0-60 in 5.3 seconds 1/4 in 14 seconds. who'd ever expect a forester to be that quick?
I didn't know that but I'm not surprised either.

Andydg
02-19-2007, 10:10 PM
I'm gonna go with the Jeep GC SRT-8...0-60 is 4.9 and the quarter mile time is low 13's.

MonsterBengt
02-26-2007, 03:29 PM
Saab 9-2x. Built on an Impreza, powered by a 2.4 I4 turbo. 0-60 in 5.5 sec.

hotrod_chevyz
03-09-2007, 01:33 AM
The 2007 Chevy Trailblazer SS has the vette 6.0L 400HP LS2 motor. Stock they have a 13.5 second 1/4 mile @ 100 MPH. The upgrade capabilities under the hood are sick. Making one into a sleeper from hell wouldnt be hard at all, they already are. Straight from the factory GM has a plentiful line of optional accessories for them like multiple dvd players 1 flip down 2 head rest, onstar, sat radio and a bunch more all covered under the factory warrenty. Really they are quite the sh!t IMHO.

As for being a "sleeper", i expect few people would be able to understand how and why a chevy SUV just put the smack down on a so called sports car. They cost $10,000 less than a base model vette. If you added that kind of money worth of mods to a AWD model SS trailblazer a good race for you would be a corvette.

You cant get it for under 20K, but in a year you could find one used for that much.

mcmlxv
04-09-2007, 07:01 PM
1994-1996 Cadillac Fleetwood

1994-1999 Cadillac Concours

2000-2005 Cadillac DeVille DTS

1993-2002 Cadillac Eldorado Touring Coupe

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1994-1996 Buick Roadmaster

1997-2005 Buick Park Avenue Ultra

1995-1999 Buick Riviera Supercharged

1997-2004 Buick Regal GS

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1995-1999 Oldsmobile Aurora

2001-2003 Oldsmobile Aurora 4.0

1996-1999 Oldsmobile LSS Supercharged

1992-1993 Oldsmobile Touring Sedan

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1992-1999 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi

2000-2003 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi

2004-2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP

1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP

1993-2002 Pontiac Firebird Formula

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1994-1996 Chevrolet Caprice/Caprice Classic

1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS

2004-2005 Chevrolet Impala SS

2004-2005 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS

1992-2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28/SS

2005-2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged


Oh, sorry, just one...

twoJayZee
06-15-2009, 02:49 PM
I have a 1987 Toyota Cressida..this is my baby... dynoed at 510WHP@21psi of boost on stock twin turbo's 2JZGTE.. original body..wheels. 5 speed automatic transmission.. cold A/C, working cruise control... Daily driven detuned on Pump Gas at 15PSi of boost 394WHP. Clocked averaged on street tires 0-60 in 4.9sec. Best quarter mile,street tires,pump gas 12.1sec@119mph. (Sleeper in Stock Form)

Zdubs
06-15-2009, 03:59 PM
I think people do not realize STOCK means WITHOUT mods. In that case, another addition to the list should be a Volvo 850 R or T5R. Close to 240 horses from a Volvo that no one would expect to be anything other than a grocery getter.

twoJayZee
06-16-2009, 06:41 AM
for the sake of discussion in Sleeper in Stock form.. (in Stock Form) meaning exterior is stock no signs of being moded a fast car that's why it's called a sleeper.. a Supra is not a sleeper? a corvette is not a sleeper? a ferrari even in it's Stock form is definitely not a sleeper! people know just by the looks that they are fast cars...much more a Volvo 850 T5R turbo! But for example
a chevy cavalier with an LS2 motor is a sleeper.. somebody has a 1980 datsun truck with an SR20DET is a sleeper..... for some reason when you drive a fast looking car people get so foamy and wanna race you...that's why these sleeper cars are out so the least you expect and booom... your volvo T5R 240hp is beaten by an old rusty 1968 volkswagen beetle with a 300hp subaru Sti turbo motor in it.. hahaha..

Zdubs
06-16-2009, 11:00 AM
yeah obviously some car with a crazy engine will beat most things, but the question was STOCK, as in everything stock. Not very many people would suspect a Volvo to be quick...

shark7000
06-24-2009, 02:43 PM
I know someone that has a Mustang GT, and they couldn't believe when a Neon dusted them. They asked me what the SRT on it meant. I told them that is the high performance turbo charged Neon. That's why they got dusted by a Neon.

Random Gearhead
07-08-2009, 08:55 PM
I think that a sleeper is the kind of car that makes you go "WTF!?" when it clearly gets the best of you. So with that definition in mind, I think that wagons and sedans with conservative looks, respectable handling, and lots of horsepower make the best sleepers.

Normal cars with big engines (Toyota Camry V6) don't count in my book. The car needs to have received a bit of love and special attention from the factory. An enthusiast would actually have to enjoy driving it.

My top votes go to:

1. Subaru Forester XT
2. Volvo 850R / S60R / V70R
3. Mazdaspeed 6
4. Volkswagen Passat with W8 engine (anybody else remember those?)

GForce957
07-09-2009, 11:18 AM
Normal cars with big engines (Toyota Camry V6) don't count in my book.

lawl

Zrayner
07-09-2009, 12:49 PM
92 GMC typhoon? 4.3L turbo

sleeperwiz65
07-17-2009, 02:36 PM
A good sleeper car requires it to LOOK stock and be a classic i have a 67 Fairlane GT that I put about $70,000 into. It has a button and 2 electronic swithes to activate the following (the button activates hydlalics to get the car down low so it doesnt pop a wheelie, the first switch turns a Paxton Supercharger on/off giving it 800 hp and the other switch moves the tail pipes to make it sound like it has 800hp) so when those little preppies in their imported japanese cars here her roar thell **** thereself.

silentscreams85
07-22-2009, 02:03 PM
A good sleeper car requires it to LOOK stock and be a classic i have a 67 Fairlane GT that I put about $70,000 into. It has a button and 2 electronic swithes to activate the following (the button activates hydlalics to get the car down low so it doesnt pop a wheelie, the first switch turns a Paxton Supercharger on/off giving it 800 hp and the other switch moves the tail pipes to make it sound like it has 800hp) so when those little preppies in their imported japanese cars here her roar thell **** thereself.

So only classic cars can be sleepers? :screwy:

Maybe you should have invested some of that money in yourself and taken some basic English spelling and grammar courses as well.

1992 olds 88
10-19-2009, 02:35 AM
1986 chrysler lebaron sedan turbo :loser:

this is a relible car but they are semi rare my grandma had one and for what it looked like it was quiet pepi

xphoenixx823
02-07-2010, 07:38 PM
Eclipse GTX
AWD car that is usually FWD

and mini cooper S

outapsyt
04-20-2010, 01:56 PM
volvo v70R
awd turbo wagon!
you can fold down the back seats and turn it into a sleeper too!

akboss
05-31-2010, 09:36 AM
Toyota Avalon. No kidding! With the 3.5L in the 2006+ models, that beige whale in the next lane can out-pace an Infiniti G35 or a BMW 328i to 60 mph - a tick over 6 seconds in the big Toyota.

Neilsweaky
07-11-2010, 10:18 PM
I don't consider luxury or premium sedans as sleepers, but the chrysler 300c is
an awesome looking gentlemans car, and also has a 5.7 360hp and 6.1 420hp V8 Hemi

slickdrake
10-19-2010, 04:08 AM
as a sleeping racer goes im not telling you what kind of car I got but I will tell you what im affraid of newer Buick GNX or even a 2000 - 2005 eclipse ohc v6 / 3.0L 181 cu. in 200-205hp | 205 torq even that being said anyone can take a basic car shell drop it on something else but the rumbling of the outer shell and the Hoosier tires are a dead give away then lastly is a Toyota Supra which everyone knows about. some rules or guide lines so to speak to follow, v4 fwd are very sluggish even at high rpm because of the body/drag to get a stock sleeper... isnt a sleeper its just a car, putting things in the car to out perform most of the other stock cars are called sleepers meaning they sleep or seem naturally stock but the tire spinning and front wheels being lifted up off the ground once that pedal gets hit is the whole difference between a basic car and a sleeper. v6's are nice or even a v6 fwd built switched for a rwd with a bi-turbo (hidden) is a nice solution to most problems, that with some inner'ds being upgraded without making the car sound to bad or even putting silencer mufflers to further reduce the cars sound is a nice addition. further more get a list of all the v6 and v8 cars, do some research and try to find out how to build something up to look completly different. (its all about how creative you can be and what people you hang around) *just remember not to go showing off you will get noticed fairly quickly unless your not gonna hustle* if you dont have much safety gear and you pass the finish line upside down and end up in the hospital with out a limb does that mean you won or lost, just something to think about.

knightjp
10-19-2010, 07:03 AM
I would suggest the Holden VXR8, but frankly its looks give it away.
My idea of what is asked here is what car would give a much faster car a good run for its money in stock form. It should be a car that is completely conventional looking and when compared with a sports car. It should look like a car that is slow and normal, yet when given some stick, can smoke a tuned car.
My best guess would be the Alfa Romeo 159. But then again, it looks like a performance motor.
To be honest, I think the best would always be a Ford Crown Victoria. I looks completely conventional, large and heavy that you'd hardly expect much performance from it. But then again those who watch alot of action shows know that the cops won't use anything that is slow for a high speed chase... :rolleyes:

Looks like this is completely difficult question to answer.

joeparkour16
06-22-2011, 09:42 AM
what about a hennessy camaro, they arn't exactly standard but you can buy them pre tuned to techincally stock and they have up to about 1000bhp!:evillol:

BUANA
09-12-2011, 10:31 AM
debadged m5?

i agree

BUANA
09-12-2011, 10:31 AM
You got that right

BUANA
09-12-2011, 10:32 AM
Camaro is not so "green" car ;)

jkoe52
07-31-2014, 09:17 PM
i think a buick lesabre makes a great sleeper as stock it puts out 206hp and the 3800 motor has superchargers that work with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aFmsfMgZrA

BlackRain
01-01-2016, 04:24 PM
I stumbled upon this thread and had to put my .02 in. I own a bone stock 2006 Buick Rainier CXL V-8 w/awd. It has the cast iron 5.3 with aluminum heads. Probably makes around 300 hp on a cool day. It's not "quick" but I figure anthing with a small block Chevy and all wheel drive must be at least "capable". It leaves a redlight pretty hard. The awd works well and has for two years now. I don't beat the crap out of it but I won't pass up the chance to pick on anything at a redlight. At 150k miles it runs smooth and quiet. It might blow up tomorrow but I'd recommend this vehicle to anyone wanting a "sleeper". This thing looks about as threatening as a Tugboat til the light changes and it chirps all fout tires and disappears. :iceslolan Like I said, it isn't "quick" but it's certaily surprising from 0-100.
You could buy one of these for cheap and add boost. You could get a good summer of play out of the stock engine before you killed it at 9lbs of boost or less.
So there ya go. Pick up one of these for $4k, add $1500.00 for a cheap turbo kit, about another $3500.00 on misc stuff like four drag radials, a tune, and maybe upgrade the fuel pump and injectors, and you'd have a serious saturday night special. Hell, gut the thing out and get the weight down and you'd have a monster on your hands. Well...until the drivetrain goes off like a big grenade but you didn't ask about longevity. I've been driving it for two years and it's not dead yet so it really must be fairly tough.

knightjp
01-02-2016, 02:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcpX90vzcDQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D95UBX-2xFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ5nek8-4ys

This should give you an idea of what a real sleeper is.

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