I gots me a car.... :D

Well after talking about it for so long I finally went out and got another good car. No it isnt a Z hence why this is in off topic. I did in fact get a 1990 toyota MR2 turbo. Normally I wouldnt consider getting a MR2 this old or with as many kms on it as it does (220,000kms) but this one was different. It is FUCKING IMMACULATE!!!:smokin: Anyway, thats what made it catch my eye initially. But at $24,000 it was kinda out of my price range. As the used sports car market has fallen on its ass in Australia atm I slowly watched his asking price fall... 22k...20k... 18k........16k..... At this point I was getting kind of interested in it. Not only was this car frigging perfect looking, it also has a MONSTER ENGINE in it. We are talking:

*custom forged, shotpeened, polished, HP coated rods and pistons
*custom cams and camshafts
*ported, polished and flowed heads
*2.2L stroker kit.
* the works

The guy that Terry bought the engine off had apparently spent over $25,000 on this engine getting custom parts made up in Japan and getting them sent over... Like he went to town on the engine. This engine put out 480hp on 21psi on pump fuel, and is built for 30psi or 25psi and 100 shot of giggles. Good stuff.

It also has:
*550cc Injectors
*Heavy duty clutch
*Machined Flywheel
*High flow turbo
*BOV
*3" going to twin 2.5" exhaust
*Haltech E6X
*Apexi AVCR Boost Controller
*Autometer boost guage
*Lowered King Springs Front/Rear
*Bilstein Struts/Shocks Front/Rear
*After-market Strut Braces Front/Rear
*17inch Advanti Rims
*plus all MR2 options

Decent mod list. Nothing too over the top. They guy only had it set to 12psi so it didnt get hammered.

The only probs with the car are that the front brakes need machining and that recently its started blowing smoke. He got it checked out and was told that its was prob the valveguide seals or the ring seals and was quoted $3000 to fix this problem. Tristen quoted me $70 for parts and he would help me out with the labour ie next to nothing.

The price for this wonderous beast I hear you asking???? :iceslolan

$11,000 AUD

FUCK YES!!!!!!

Admittedly it will cost about $1000 to get it shipped over from the other side of the country, but I feel I made out like an ass pirate of Penang on Mardi Gra night.

I am well happy. So happy, I am even going to post pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/yaggus/MR2/MR2front.jpg
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Well that about does it... I am a very happy man....

scoooore!

looks sweet man good job ... im sorry but you have to do something about that little hot air intake you got in there lol ... get one of those that come up through the hatch and get direct air those look pretty sweeet .. otherwise car looks awesome.

you know what i just noticed that's awesome? no mph in the speedo!

very nice...it is one of very few cars that you and I actually agree on! lookds very clean and well built/cared for.

good luck! and that price is a steal even for the US.

lol i don't think you're going to be so happy when he tells you his plans k3 :P

lol i don't think you're going to be so happy when he tells you his plans k3 :P

Whaaaaaaaaat.... The plans for it arent that bad. It just involes it being demodified somewhat. I really dont think Janine would appreciate the work gone into the engine, so she wont care that it will have a stock engine in it. I, on the other hand, WILL appreciate the engine. So, I intend on dumping it in a GT4 and turning it into a monster :iceslolan

10 seconds sounds pretty good to me... if I also buy the GT4 I am looking at, the ony mod it will need will be a big turbo. Everything else will be done. But, I dont know which will come first. 10 sec car or a house. Not sure which :P

haha well i like the plan, but i'm sure k3 will have something along the lines of "celica's suck" or something...

i say go for the house so i have something to stay in when i come down there :p

i say go for the house so i have something to stay in when i come down there :p

agreed...i was actually thinking about scheduling a trip to austrailia as soon as this summer. :)

anywho...celicas...bah. i dont like the plans at all. so what you are saying is...you are gonna take all the mods out of the tribute sports car and install them on a sporty economical car and make it a 10 second car. it makes sense in your case and in your case only beings your girlfriend probably doesnt need a insanely tail happy MR2 to try and drive around.

i dont think all celicas suck. the older GT4s are pretty badass. i personally would never buy one because i think they look like poo but they can be made into monsters.

do whatever makes ya happy. as long as it doesnt involve eclipses and GTO's, you wont hear much from me.

Rofl.

I will end up buying a house regardless so you guys have no need to worry. There will be somewhere for you to crash :smokin:

Sporty economical??? Celicas DOMINATED the rally scene in the early 90's how could you possibly class that as a sporty economical?? My plans make perfect sense. I am going to take a hideously modifed, uneconomical engine out of the MR2, drop in a standard 3s-gte in it, and dump the modified block into something that has a chance of getting traction with it. Makes perfect sense to me. :icon16:

That way I will have a stupidly fast car and my girlfriend will have a clean reliable car that won't try to axe her in the face the first time she puts her foot down.:evillol:

Rofl.

I will end up buying a house regardless so you guys have no need to worry. There will be somewhere for you to crash :smokin:

Sporty economical??? Celicas DOMINATED the rally scene in the early 90's how could you possibly class that as a sporty economical?? My plans make perfect sense. I am going to take a hideously modifed, uneconomical engine out of the MR2, drop in a standard 3s-gte in it, and dump the modified block into something that has a chance of getting traction with it. Makes perfect sense to me. :icon16:

That way I will have a stupidly fast car and my girlfriend will have a clean reliable car that won't try to axe her in the face the first time she puts her foot down.:evillol:

i still find the ideas foolish. just leave the MR2 and insanely modify the GT4. makes more sense than swapping motors and all that jazz.

it is a sporty economical car, noted in the same class as the 240sx. 2 door coupe with a 4 cylinder motor. i dont care what it dominated, it was built for to be sporty and economical. it just so happens that they built it so that it is a great platform to be modified, same as the 240sx, integras, and civic si's.

i still find the ideas foolish. just leave the MR2 and insanely modify the GT4. makes more sense than swapping motors and all that jazz.

Well unfortunately I dont have a spare 25k to dump into a gt4 so instead I will just use the motor that I already have modified.

it is a sporty economical car, noted in the same class as the 240sx. 2 door coupe with a 4 cylinder motor. i dont care what it dominated, it was built for to be sporty and economical. it just so happens that they built it so that it is a great platform to be modified, same as the 240sx, integras, and civic si's.

Do you class EVOs and WRX's sporty economical cars?? No, you dont. It is the same type of car just an earlier model. GT4s are no where near the same as a Celica SX. Different engine, different suspension, different drivetrain, different brakes... etc etc. The shell looks the same and so does most of the interior but that where the similarity ends. Plus the GT4 starts off with a decent 2 liter turbo engine where as the 240sx, teg and civic dont. ie the same 2L turbo engine thats in the MR2 turbo...

actually the jdm '240sx' does :p

actually the jdm '240sx' does :p

Thats not a 240sx :grinno:

Thats a 200sx which is a whole different car altogether:grinyes:

never heard of a 200zx.. i have, however, heard of the sylvia, which is of the same s13 chassis... and there was no japanese 240sx.. hence the 'jdm'... same car different front end, as far as i'm concerned lol

the EVO and WRX is also in the same class. come on man...sporty economical car. that is exactly what EVO and WRX have written all over it. yes they contend at different forms of racing, but there intended street use is sporty, economical, fun, cars. the supra and mr2 was Toyota's flagship sport cars. the VR4 was mitsubishi's and the SVX was supposed to be Subaru's. come on...

so the sti is a sporty, economical car then? so you're saying having awd and 300hp Stock is economical? that's the same thing the z32 came with.. incase you've forgotten.

and i wouldn't say subaru so much as contends as dominates...

Dont know what your on about crazy man... :P

And its Silvia... tool :D

so the sti is a sporty, economical car then? so you're saying having awd and 300hp Stock is economical? that's the same thing the z32 came with.. incase you've forgotten.

and i wouldn't say subaru so much as contends as dominates...

Subaru dont dominate... Citroen and Peugot are at the top of the game atm. Ford is doing really well too. Their new focus is quite tasty.

And K3, just because something has 4 doors doesnt mean its only sporty and ecocomical. The MR2 has the same engine as the GT4 and I dont see you calling that economical. What about the GTiR? the 200sx? what are they??

so the sti is a sporty, economical car then? so you're saying having awd and 300hp Stock is economical? that's the same thing the z32 came with.. incase you've forgotten.

Very few WRXs are STis and very few Lancers are EVOs. Both are the top shelf model and each can move with quite a bit of authority. However the cars that both of those factory tuner jobs are based on fall decidely into the "sporty but not a sports car" category. Drive an Oz Rally Lancer or RS model WRX if you don't believe me.

And the 200SX was the older FWD chassis if I remember correctly. I do know that the SR20 powered JDM market S13 (240SX) was called the 180SX, as the base models were powered by the CA18.

Very few WRXs are STis and very few Lancers are EVOs. Both are the top shelf model and each can move with quite a bit of authority. However the cars that both of those factory tuner jobs are based on fall decidely into the "sporty but not a sports car" category. Drive an Oz Rally Lancer or RS model WRX if you don't believe me.

And the 200SX was the older FWD chassis if I remember correctly. I do know that the SR20 powered JDM market S13 (240SX) was called the 180SX, as the base models were powered by the CA18.

Your memory fails miserably :icon16: 200sx was when the silvia went to the S14 and chassis. 2L turbo RWD. The 180sx was when they still used the CA18det. When they upgraded to the 2L SR20det they kept the 180sx name for the popup headlight model S13 chassis models and the non-popupo model inherited the 200sx namesake in Australia and the rest of the world apart from Japan where it retained the silvia name.

As you were saying the RX model Imprezzas and the Oz edition Lancers (im assuming we are thinking of the same model but over here its the GLi) are nothing like the EVO or Sti. They share the same shape but thats about where the similarities end. Just like the Celica SX and the GT4. :smokin:

Your memory seems shakey as well, there are two Nissan 200SXs. The one that came to my mind was the American market B14 chassis FWD 200SX that was essentially a two door Sentra.

And really I try not to remember either 200SX, any S14 or other such cars that look like torn up nutsacks.

As you were saying the RX model Imprezzas and the Oz edition Lancers (im assuming we are thinking of the same model but over here its the GLi) are nothing like the EVO or Sti. They share the same shape but thats about where the similarities end. Just like the Celica SX and the GT4. :smokin:

that's what i was getting at lol

Your memory seems shakey as well, there are two Nissan 200SXs. The one that came to my mind was the American market B14 chassis FWD 200SX that was essentially a two door Sentra.


Really? I had no idea you guys got your own 200sx... Sucks to be getting the crap version! :icon16:

The S14 200sx came in 2 revisions. S14 and S14a. The S15 was very bland at the front, almost eclipsish but a FUCKING UGLY ass... Im talking hideous.

The S14a looked MUCH better up the front with much more aggressive styling but unfortunately retained its munted ass.

The S15 looks fucking hot. Period.

All were RWD 2L turbo

yeah dude we got raped with the 200sx... it suuuuucks

i love how prettymuch every one of our discussions end up in an argument lol

so the sti is a sporty, economical car then? so you're saying having awd and 300hp Stock is economical? that's the same thing the z32 came with.. incase you've forgotten.

and i wouldn't say subaru so much as contends as dominates...

yes its sporty and economical. it just so happens that it was built almost 15 years after the Z32. things change. by todays standard the Z32 would have came with 500hp to compete with the vette.

the STI and EVO are cheap economical cars no matter the performance they come with. are you guys blind?

And K3, just because something has 4 doors doesnt mean its only sporty and ecocomical. The MR2 has the same engine as the GT4 and I dont see you calling that economical. What about the GTiR? the 200sx? what are they??

i agree...it has nothing to do with 4 doors. i didnt call the Dodge Charger sporty and economical. its about the design purpose.

a Lancer or Impreza is a economical sedan. you add more performance to the same car, it turns it into sporty and economical. what do you classify the car as? sports car? hardly! does it perform like one? yes! but it doesnt make it one. it about the purpose the car was built for.

the mr2 and the GT4 do share the same engine...the mr2 is still a sports car because of its purpose. that being to compete with the miata. it has mid engine RWD layout. it is a sports car. the GT4 is nothing but a souped up celica. the celica is an economy car, thus making the celica GT4 a sporty economy car. it doesnt fit in any other classification. i dont understand what the argument is about...what do you want it to be? just because i say it is a sporty economy car doesnt mean its bad, it just means its not a sports car. cars are designed for different purposes. A EVO destroys a C5 vette around a track but yet its still not a sports car, it just performs better, it is an economy car because it gets nearly 30mpg out of its 4 cylinder turbo motor, has 4 doors, a trunk, etc. i dont know why you think it is so bad for a car to be a sporty economical car.

i dont know what 200sx you are talking about...but the pulsar Gti-R would be another sporty economy car in the form of a hatchback. the regular pulsar would be the economy and then the Gti-R model would therefore be the sporty model.

bottom line: a EVO could some stock with 1000hp but as long as it still is based off of the economic lancer chassis it will always just be a sporty economy car.

i love how prettymuch every one of our discussions end up in an argument lol

yeah, and i was trying to be nice this time. i actually complemented yag on a decision he make.

lol. Im going on a holiday. Argue for me for the next 5 days for me :P

cya in 5 days!!!

lol. Im going on a holiday. Argue for me for the next 5 days for me :P

cya in 5 days!!!

:lol: have a good one man. you know i have a point. there is no street classification called "rally cars".

a Lancer or Impreza is a economical sedan. you add more performance to the same car, it turns it into sporty and economical. what do you classify the car as? sports car? hardly! does it perform like one? yes! but it doesnt make it one. it about the purpose the car was built for.

the mr2 and the GT4 do share the same engine...the mr2 is still a sports car because of its purpose. that being to compete with the miata. it has mid engine RWD layout. it is a sports car. the GT4 is nothing but a souped up celica. the celica is an economy car, thus making the celica GT4 a sporty economy car. it doesnt fit in any other classification. i dont understand what the argument is about...what do you want it to be? just because i say it is a sporty economy car doesnt mean its bad, it just means its not a sports car. cars are designed for different purposes. A EVO destroys a C5 vette around a track but yet its still not a sports car, it just performs better, it is an economy car because it gets nearly 30mpg out of its 4 cylinder turbo motor, has 4 doors, a trunk, etc. i dont know why you think it is so bad for a car to be a sporty economical car.

yeah, and i was trying to be nice this time. i actually complemented yag on a decision he make.

Purpose it was built for? In the early 70's the Celica was designed and built as a sports car. It sold well as a sports car. So if you are using the 'what it was originally designed as' argument, then your argument jsut went out the window. Mr2 is a sports car due to its intended purpose? The GT4 was designed to be rallied. Last time I checked rallying is a sport. Hence being a sports car. MR2 is mid engined turbo RWD, yes. GT4s are front engined turbo AWD. Both sports configuration, I would argue. Te GT4 needs AWD to deal with not having traction while rallying. Sports design and purpose. Gt4s dont have 4 doors either. 2 door coupe baby :D

Q: is a 4 door skyline classed as a sports car? What about a Chaser?

Holiday is fucking awesome except for the fact we almost hit a fucking kangaroo on the way down.... Fucking kangaroos...

In the early 70's the Celica was designed and built as a sports car. So if you are using the 'what it was originally designed as' argument, then your argument jsut went out the window.

No it hasn't. I would think it would be hard to argue against the fact that the Celica has strayed very far off its original 70s design intent.

This whole debate seems like a bunch cockswaggling. Everyone seems to be talking about different cars, or at least different models/years of the same car. Given how much can change in the cars intent during that time, doing so renders this whole debate limp and impotent.

Basically I think I would sum up K3s point as such:

To be a true sports car there must be two things, design intent and performance. It must have been designed from the ground up as a performance machine, not being based at all on a lesser model of car, and it must perform like one.

In our current Celica example, the original 1970 Celica that Yaggus speaks of qualifies both requirements. A port off the very limited run 2000GT, it was performance driven out of the box. However by the time the late 80s had rolled around, as k3 points out, the Celica had become just another name plate on a lethargic FWD compact. They made the top shelf turbo version but it was never the less just a compact car with a hopped up engine in it. Celicas to this day have followed suit, never being anything more than pedestrian grocery getter with the option of getting some factory performance parts on the sport model. Performance? Perhaps. Design intent? Lacking.

Having a meth smoking turbo model of a rather dull and pathetic car does not make for a sports car. It makes a "tuner car", same as any other POS someone has stuck a bunch of high performance parts onto. Usually these factory tuner cars are pretty good; being faster and have all the pieces working together better than most tuner cars slapped together by the aftermarket but it still makes them tuner cars.

No it hasn't. I would think it would be hard to argue against the fact that the Celica has strayed very far off its original 70s design intent.

This whole debate seems like a bunch cockswaggling. Everyone seems to be talking about different cars, or at least different models/years of the same car. Given how much can change in the cars intent during that time, doing so renders this whole debate limp and impotent.

Basically I think I would sum up K3s point as such:

To be a true sports car there must be two things, design intent and performance. It must have been designed from the ground up as a performance machine, not being based at all on a lesser model of car, and it must perform like one.

In our current Celica example, the original 1970 Celica that Yaggus speaks of qualifies both requirements. A port off the very limited run 2000GT, it was performance driven out of the box. However by the time the late 80s had rolled around, as k3 points out, the Celica had become just another name plate on a lethargic FWD compact. They made the top shelf turbo version but it was never the less just a compact car with a hopped up engine in it. Celicas to this day have followed suit, never being anything more than pedestrian grocery getter with the option of getting some factory performance parts on the sport model. Performance? Perhaps. Design intent? Lacking.

Having a meth smoking turbo model of a rather dull and pathetic car does not make for a sports car. It makes a "tuner car", same as any other POS someone has stuck a bunch of high performance parts onto. Usually these factory tuner cars are pretty good; being faster and have all the pieces working together better than most tuner cars slapped together by the aftermarket but it still makes them tuner cars.


well said and exactly my point...

as for a 4 door skyline. first of all, shame on nissan...second, i would classify it as a sporty sedan much like an Audi S4 or something of the like, but maybe the adding carrying the exra word "luxury". chaser would be classified as the same maybe even dropping the word sporty.

No it hasn't. I would think it would be hard to argue against the fact that the Celica has strayed very far off its original 70s design intent.

This whole debate seems like a bunch cockswaggling. Everyone seems to be talking about different cars, or at least different models/years of the same car. Given how much can change in the cars intent during that time, doing so renders this whole debate limp and impotent.

Basically I think I would sum up K3s point as such:

To be a true sports car there must be two things, design intent and performance. It must have been designed from the ground up as a performance machine, not being based at all on a lesser model of car, and it must perform like one.

In our current Celica example, the original 1970 Celica that Yaggus speaks of qualifies both requirements. A port off the very limited run 2000GT, it was performance driven out of the box. However by the time the late 80s had rolled around, as k3 points out, the Celica had become just another name plate on a lethargic FWD compact. They made the top shelf turbo version but it was never the less just a compact car with a hopped up engine in it. Celicas to this day have followed suit, never being anything more than pedestrian grocery getter with the option of getting some factory performance parts on the sport model. Performance? Perhaps. Design intent? Lacking.

Having a meth smoking turbo model of a rather dull and pathetic car does not make for a sports car. It makes a "tuner car", same as any other POS someone has stuck a bunch of high performance parts onto. Usually these factory tuner cars are pretty good; being faster and have all the pieces working together better than most tuner cars slapped together by the aftermarket but it still makes them tuner cars.

I understand what your saying but most performance cars get pussified somewhat to make the saleable to the general public. Celicas suffered from this mor than most.

However, I still stand by my claim that rally cars are not tuner cars. With them having next to none of the characteristics of their crappier cousins other than the same looks, I feel that they should be treated as a separate car. The manufacturers link the base models of each to try and feed the sales of then to people who would love the have the dreal deal but cant afford it and would be able to live with jsut being able to own a car than looks like the one they want.

Once you have a new side panels of a car, the bonnet, the front bumper, the rear bumper, the engine, the suspension, the brakes, the gearbox, the diff, the exhaust system, the seats, the dash.... It makes it a new car. All of this designed and tested by engineers at toyota to find the best combination of parts to work harmoniously together to achieve the best result on a rally circuit, to me that is sport designed. 300zxs and mx5s are designed to be quick on a circuit track where as GT4s are designed to be fast on a gravel track. Both are sports applications but both require vastly different setups to achieve their goal. Hence why they look and act differently to each other.

Economy? have you seen the economy of any of the other cars you are comparing them to? mx5s are great on econom. MR2s have better economy than gt4s. Good economy is a by product of a well designed and effiecient engine. Be it turbo or V8 both can put out decent HP and still get good economy. The fact that a car is economical is irrelevent to whether or not its a sports car or not. It is just aby product of having a good engine.

This is where the difference between "pussified" and "just fuckin jacked up POS" comes in. Since the mid 80s, the Celica has been a piece of shit. Still is. Toyota did a bang up job of taking this piece of shit chassis and making something workable out of it for the GT4. Despite that, it's still based off a piece of shit. Can't polish a turd, you know? Thus it falls under my "tuner car" category.

I think one thing that should be pointed out is that being a "tuner car" is not a bad thing at all. Doesn't mean it's a second class sports car, doesn't mean it's slow. It just wasn't designed for performance from the start. And that's okay. It's not a label implied to look down on them, it's simply to draw a distinction. If anything, tuner cars are where it's at. A STi will run with cars twice it's price and still serve as a functional daily driver. How fuckin cool is that?

As a side note, there really doesn't need to be a "rally" classification, as there really isn't a need to break "sports cars" up into their specific pursuits. You are correct Yaggus, rally is just another type of racing.

Congrats Yaggus!. That car is Pimpin' my wygga. Shure score. BTW i'm back!

Just an update on my car...

It came in last week went to pick it up and was just intending on towing it home. Massive dramas with that partially due to the person towing the MR2 had no idea how to do it. The other part of it was that power brakes dont work so good unless the engine is running and given there was a problem with the engine. I did start it up however... god dam that car sounds mean. :evillol: Cams and headwork with a nice 3" going to dual 2.5 " exhaust sounds evil :smokin:

Anyway, I didnt really feel like having it running for too long because it has some engine problems. That and it wouldnt hold idle because it had been sitting there too long. After we snapped our tow rope 3 times we called in a favour with a friend of the guy who was driving to towing car and managed to get the MR2 on the back of a car transporter and dropped off at Tristans house for free. Score!!!

First impressions of the car are pretty good. Paintwork is pretty good. A few chips here and there. Nothing too bad. Interioris fucking great. I can only see 2 things that need changing. One is the glove box cover that has quite a few scuffs on it and the other is the piece of plastic behind the door handle on the inside is broken. Other than that the interior is SHMICK!!!

Now onto the unexpected parts... Despite what the seller told me, the car HAS been in an accident. The chips on the rear bumper have red paint glaring out from underneath, there are ripples on the boot floor, the boot is ever so slightly not straight and if you look closely you can see where the paint has been blended on the sides. But that being said, the repair job was of pretty good quality so i am not that worried about it.

First big surprise: Who ever put the engine in had NO CLUE what he was doing. Same goes for the whoever put in the Haltec, probably the same guy... The first clue as to what was wrong was when Tristan (MR2 expert mate) commented that the engine seemed to be sitting lower on closer inspection we found out that THE ENGINE WAS MISSING THE 2 FRONT ENGINE MOUNT BOLTS!!!!! WTF!!! One of the rear engine bolts was also 3/4s the way out too. Also a lot of the stock items were left in when the aftermarket was put in. Like all the stock boost gear was left in even though it had a full aftermarket standalone as well as an Apexi AVCR in it too... Random.

The next and shittiest surprise was when we had a look at the bottom end to confirm all the goodies were in there.... They weren't :eek: Bottom end was completely stock. No forged rods, no 2.2L stroker kit. I was, shall we say, not happy at this point. The only saving grace was that the pistons that were in there were pretty hardcore but still...

Now I was wondering, 'ok what else isnt there?' but it was getting late and I had to work the next day so I went home in a pretty shitty mood.

Called Tristan up 2 days later to ask him if he had found anything else out and it turns out that the head work on the engine is the most extensive he has ever seen on a 3s-gte SCORE!!!!!

Anyways, I sent the guy an email saying WTF is the engine and generally8 being not happy. He claimed ignorance and he thought the engine had all the parts in there and he had boought the engine 2nd hand off someone else and was jsut going by what he was told was in there. I emailed him back saying that If he got screwed by someone that that was his problem but I bought the car off him and he had advertised it with the afore mentioned modifications and that they werent there. I told him that I was effectively down $5800 because I didnt have those mods on there anymore. I pointed out that I could sue him for the cost of the mods but I didnt want to have to go down that route. Top be honest I have no idea if i could have sued him and besides that I had no intention of ever bothering with that shit given he lives on the other side of the country. I propesed a compromise and for him to refund part of the cash I gave him for the car in order to cover my costs. Keep in mind I raped him on the inital purchase price anyway. I paid 11k for a car worth easily 18k :smokin: I was thinking I was lucky to be getting $1000 back from him. Hell, I would have been happy with $50. I was already well ahead, any thing I got back was a bonus. He turns around and emails me say he has just transfered back over $2000!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!

So that means I got an MR2 in -REALLY- good condition with quite a decent amount of tasty mods for $9000 + shipping!!! Oh I am happy now...:grinyes:

Just an update on my car...

It came in last week went to pick it up and was just intending on towing it home. Massive dramas with that partially due to the person towing the MR2 had no idea how to do it. The other part of it was that power brakes dont work so good unless the engine is running and given there was a problem with the engine. I did start it up however... god dam that car sounds mean. :evillol: Cams and headwork with a nice 3" going to dual 2.5 " exhaust sounds evil :smokin:

Anyway, I didnt really feel like having it running for too long because it has some engine problems. That and it wouldnt hold idle because it had been sitting there too long. After we snapped our tow rope 3 times we called in a favour with a friend of the guy who was driving to towing car and managed to get the MR2 on the back of a car transporter and dropped off at Tristans house for free. Score!!!

First impressions of the car are pretty good. Paintwork is pretty good. A few chips here and there. Nothing too bad. Interioris fucking great. I can only see 2 things that need changing. One is the glove box cover that has quite a few scuffs on it and the other is the piece of plastic behind the door handle on the inside is broken. Other than that the interior is SHMICK!!!

Now onto the unexpected parts... Despite what the seller told me, the car HAS been in an accident. The chips on the rear bumper have red paint glaring out from underneath, there are ripples on the boot floor, the boot is ever so slightly not straight and if you look closely you can see where the paint has been blended on the sides. But that being said, the repair job was of pretty good quality so i am not that worried about it.

First big surprise: Who ever put the engine in had NO CLUE what he was doing. Same goes for the whoever put in the Haltec, probably the same guy... The first clue as to what was wrong was when Tristan (MR2 expert mate) commented that the engine seemed to be sitting lower on closer inspection we found out that THE ENGINE WAS MISSING THE 2 FRONT ENGINE MOUNT BOLTS!!!!! WTF!!! One of the rear engine bolts was also 3/4s the way out too. Also a lot of the stock items were left in when the aftermarket was put in. Like all the stock boost gear was left in even though it had a full aftermarket standalone as well as an Apexi AVCR in it too... Random.

The next and shittiest surprise was when we had a look at the bottom end to confirm all the goodies were in there.... They weren't :eek: Bottom end was completely stock. No forged rods, no 2.2L stroker kit. I was, shall we say, not happy at this point. The only saving grace was that the pistons that were in there were pretty hardcore but still...

Now I was wondering, 'ok what else isnt there?' but it was getting late and I had to work the next day so I went home in a pretty shitty mood.

Called Tristan up 2 days later to ask him if he had found anything else out and it turns out that the head work on the engine is the most extensive he has ever seen on a 3s-gte SCORE!!!!!

Anyways, I sent the guy an email saying WTF is the engine and generally8 being not happy. He claimed ignorance and he thought the engine had all the parts in there and he had boought the engine 2nd hand off someone else and was jsut going by what he was told was in there. I emailed him back saying that If he got screwed by someone that that was his problem but I bought the car off him and he had advertised it with the afore mentioned modifications and that they werent there. I told him that I was effectively down $5800 because I didnt have those mods on there anymore. I pointed out that I could sue him for the cost of the mods but I didnt want to have to go down that route. Top be honest I have no idea if i could have sued him and besides that I had no intention of ever bothering with that shit given he lives on the other side of the country. I propesed a compromise and for him to refund part of the cash I gave him for the car in order to cover my costs. Keep in mind I raped him on the inital purchase price anyway. I paid 11k for a car worth easily 18k :smokin: I was thinking I was lucky to be getting $1000 back from him. Hell, I would have been happy with $50. I was already well ahead, any thing I got back was a bonus. He turns around and emails me say he has just transfered back over $2000!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!

So that means I got an MR2 in -REALLY- good condition with quite a decent amount of tasty mods for $9000 + shipping!!! Oh I am happy now...:grinyes:

kinda scandalous but whatever...it is still an MR2.

owned :D