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Mr. Luos
12-09-2006, 08:47 PM
Well...this is how it went.

No excuses, he beat me. Just filling everyone in.
There are rumors he added a small shot of nitrous. I don't buy it. I checked out the car.
Also, I was running my street wheels. Heavy Torque Thrusts. Rotational mass killed me. I am probably only a 12.3-12.4 at 115'ish' on these instead of my 11.9x at 118'ish'
Also, I took the cameraman...so add 150-160 pounds there.
The Z06 was probably 800 pounds lighter last night.

He was on BFG DR's and I was on Nitto DR's. I had a little more of a problem with traction than he did. Traction wasn't an issue where he really put distance on me though.

First two races are from inside my car. Last race is the Z06 against a Kenne Bell'd 03 Cobra. Z06 owner told me I hung better than that KB Cobra.


Both of my races were from 30 to 120'ish'
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Friday.wmv

I need to put my car on a diet and go again. With the ProStars on it.
It was a fun evening though. He was real cool about running them, and actually was impressed with my car considering all the weight we had in it.
Enjoy.

jeepgclwj
12-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Man that Z06 was running. Must be nice being able to stay right with him. That Stang S/C sounded sweeet....nice races and vids...

-The Stig-
12-09-2006, 10:05 PM
He was running tires? Blah... you should of both ran tires.

Keep it even, if he gets traction you get traction. :p

Mr. Luos
12-09-2006, 10:20 PM
Both on DR's.
He had BFG's and I had Nitto's.

Hoping he keeps it stock for a while. That way maybe I can get him at Bandimere early in the season.

98BlackTransAm
12-09-2006, 10:27 PM
:iceslolan He was running tires? Blah... you should of both ran tires.

Keep it even, if he gets traction you get traction. :p

:1: but nice run,, and those are some sexy sexy cars :iceslolan

eps
12-09-2006, 11:02 PM
I told man, why didn't you believe me? It's a fucking CORVETTE!!! You can't beat a Z06 CORVETTE, they have way to much torque.

I hate to do it but...

...I told you so.

Mr. Luos
12-09-2006, 11:38 PM
Told me what??

You said I would get worked....that wasn't getting worked.

I bet I could still take him down the 1/4 mile.
I raced him with my car being VERY heavy last night. Obviously played a role.

And by the way, I make more RWHP and more torque.

devster18
12-09-2006, 11:40 PM
Whats the setup on your car? Shit... I was hoping you were gonna win.

Mad_Maxima
12-09-2006, 11:41 PM
oh man, the sounds coming outta those 3 cars is just sweet, thanks for not crapping it up and putting background music in there.

And I'd love to see you three go at it on the track next year, hopefully you can set it up

Mr. Luos
12-09-2006, 11:46 PM
Whats the setup on your car? Shit... I was hoping you were gonna win.
Texas Speed 402 with a nice cam, good heads, great intake.

Car is just heavy. Iron block, big 9" rearend.
I want a stock Z06 at the track. My car does better there than on the street.
If I was on my ProStar wheels and without a passenger, I think it would have been even.

But...being who I am, I ran him in street trim since that is how the car would be if I just randomly got him driving around.

eps
12-10-2006, 12:01 AM
Nah man the C6 Z06 is the ultimate in performance right now. There is nothing that can beat it that doesn't have a turbo the size of you're head. You should add a wet shot if you want to go fast.

Musashi3000GT
12-10-2006, 12:09 AM
I told man, why didn't you believe me? It's a fucking CORVETTE!!! You can't beat a Z06 CORVETTE, they have way to much torque.

I hate to do it but...

...I told you so.

Give him credit Eps, he hung with him.
Besides it didnt go down quite as you expected did it?

how many other cars here can hang like that with a Zo6?
Luos is the friggin man!

Mr. Luos
12-10-2006, 12:09 AM
Alright...I will have to go back down there next weekend if the weather is good.
Run him again without all that extra weight.

And you are wrong. There are several 402/408 setups in F-Bodys that will take down a stock Z06. On motor.
I was all of two cars back on motor. Car was fat compared to normal, and traction was an issue.

You can not believe me, that is fine.
But in track trim and on the drag strip, I can beat a C6Z06.

devster18
12-10-2006, 01:08 AM
Nah man the C6 Z06 is the ultimate in performance right now. There is nothing that can beat it that doesn't have a turbo the size of you're head. You should add a wet shot if you want to go fast.

You don't know what your talking about. There are plenty of n/a cars that can take a Z06. You seem a bit biased, although I agree that the Z06 is quick for how much it costs.

bad360rt
12-10-2006, 01:38 AM
Nah man the C6 Z06 is the ultimate in performance right now. There is nothing that can beat it that doesn't have a turbo the size of you're head. You should add a wet shot if you want to go fast.
You need to get out more if you think an 11sec car is unbeatable. They are fast, I've driven one with headers and a tune and it was an awesome car. But hardly unbeatable.

Good run Luos! Go after him again with the Prostars and make him carry the cameraman (or at least a passenger to make it even). :bigthumb: I'd love to run one.

TheQuietThings
12-10-2006, 02:05 AM
holy shit your car sounds like a hungry lion tearing apart an antalope!

nice runs btw

[i watched the vid 5 or 6 times just for the sounds lol]

Mad_Maxima
12-10-2006, 02:46 AM
[i watched the vid 5 or 6 times just for the sounds lol]

http://smiliesftw.com/x/werd2.gif

-The Stig-
12-10-2006, 05:44 AM
Nah man the C6 Z06 is the ultimate in performance right now. There is nothing that can beat it that doesn't have a turbo the size of you're head. You should add a wet shot if you want to go fast.


Everytime you post, God kills a kitten.

BlackGT2000
12-10-2006, 10:29 AM
Nah man the C6 Z06 is the ultimate in performance right now. There is nothing that can beat it that doesn't have a turbo the size of you're head. You should add a wet shot if you want to go fast.

What the hell? The ultimate... nothing can beat it without a turbo? There are other stock cars that will.

Mr. Luos
12-10-2006, 02:47 PM
Now the rumors start from the local guys...

Most seem to think there is a bottle on that Z06.
I can't verify that though. I did a quick overlook of the car and didn't see anything.

KamilMk
12-10-2006, 05:27 PM
Very nice run Luos... And a great vid to go with it... Two bad ass cars battleing it out out there, nothing comes close to that... :grinyes: Can't wait to hear the outcome of the next race between you two... Make sure to get a vid of that too...

P.S: I love the sounds in that vid, and I can't get enough of it! :icon16:

Igovert500
12-10-2006, 05:45 PM
Nah man the C6 Z06 is the ultimate in performance right now. There is nothing that can beat it that doesn't have a turbo the size of you're head. You should add a wet shot if you want to go fast.


:banghead: What size shirt do you wear? (http://carlosmenciagear.com/clothing/DDDtee.htm) We'll all chip in


Luos, very nice races man. That was very respectible. And +1 on the sound :boink:

Chiquae07
12-10-2006, 11:54 PM
lol. i think eps is falling off the deep end, or one of his friends or siblings are taking advantage of his 'saved login stuff' to his account. he has some pretty good things to say, when its him or he's not drunk or something. thats a pretty good shirt. i'd for sure chip in.

TheStang00
12-11-2006, 12:47 AM
eps sounds like a ricer fanboy, except for a z06 instead of a civic. he didnt get worked, he got beat by 2 cars. and since when did a engine have to have a turbo to have more than 505hp? there are lots of v8's out there that can get more than that on motor, and beat a z06 on all motor. not likely to find many stock, but what does that matter, luos isnt stock. if i can ever get my dream mustang, '68 with a 427, ill be making more power than that easy. build that 427 some and we'll be in buisness.

RACER D12
12-11-2006, 06:44 PM
eps sounds like a ricer fanboy, except for a z06 instead of a civic. he didnt get worked, he got beat by 2 cars.

"It dosnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winnings winning!"- God:sunglasse

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/152/2739.jpg

Mad_Maxima
12-11-2006, 09:26 PM
:bowdown:







lol

KamilMk
12-11-2006, 10:49 PM
"It dosnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winnings winning!"- God:sunglasse

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/152/2739.jpg

*In Borat's voice* -- "I follow the hawk..."

90redgt
12-12-2006, 08:06 PM
Now the rumors start from the local guys...

Most seem to think there is a bottle on that Z06.
I can't verify that though. I did a quick overlook of the car and didn't see anything.


I believe those Z06's trap 120+ in the 1/4 from the factory. Based on how many car lengths he beat you buy and what your car could usually trap at the track (118mph in track trim)...i'd venture to say that the z06 is mostly likely not on the bottle. he got you by 2 lengths, you presume 115mph with all the weight you had on your car. With the way the videos went, just my opinion but i say the Z06 is all motor. Close races though, i know i couldn't hang with the new Z06's like that. Sweet ride Mr. Lous. :)

Mr. Luos
12-12-2006, 09:08 PM
I agree.
I trap 117.59 here at 5800 feet on the drag wheels. 114-115 on the heavy wheels.
From what I understand, the new Z06 traps 115-116 here (same altitude).
This is why there are people saying there may have been a bottle on it.

I have also heard (heard being the key word here) that the newer cars computers adjust better for the lack of air at this altitude. Not sure how valid that is though.

I guess the fastest stock Z06 has trapped 128MPH with a -850 DA. That is smoking. 10.85 ET.
I think I have a 10 second car at sea level. But I haven't done it, so I need to before I claim it.

98BlackTransAm
12-12-2006, 10:22 PM
I guess the fastest stock Z06 has trapped 128MPH with a -850 DA. That is smoking. 10.85 ET.
I think I have a 10 second car at sea level. But I haven't done it, so I need to before I claim it.

stock z06's can dip into the 10's??? i knew they were fast but damn.

rice(er)
12-12-2006, 11:19 PM
ah......you've done well young grasshopper

bad360rt
12-12-2006, 11:20 PM
stock z06's can dip into the 10's??? i knew they were fast but damn.
Fastest bone stock Z06 has gone 11.2, same car on DR's (no other changes) went 10.8. That's pretty awesome for a stock car that costs $70K.

Chiquae07
12-13-2006, 01:34 AM
but cost effective for 70k? not to me it isn't. tell me, would a evo IX not contend/pass the z06 at all in price? i mean 45k and you have a 9sec car, and crazy handling right out of the box. i dont think its even neccessary to upgrade the suspention in those. am i right, or am i just thinking crazy since i need sleep.

TheStang00
12-13-2006, 02:33 AM
your thinking crazy cause you need sleep. sure its probably possible to make a evo IX faster for the money. but that takes so much work its rediculous. the z06 has things the evo cant have though and that is that the base package itself has more potential and is tremendous. the evo handles good, but the corvette handles like damn supercar.

bad360rt
12-13-2006, 12:01 PM
but cost effective for 70k? not to me it isn't. tell me, would a evo IX not contend/pass the z06 at all in price? i mean 45k and you have a 9sec car, and crazy handling right out of the box. i dont think its even neccessary to upgrade the suspention in those. am i right, or am i just thinking crazy since i need sleep.
You can make just about anything faster for less, but this is a stock 10sec car with a WARRANTY. To get the same performance, you're paying more than twice as much, or more, so relatively speaking it's supercar performance at a bargain price :iceslolan

One_Ball_Hung_Low
12-13-2006, 06:21 PM
You can make just about anything faster for less, but this is a stock 10sec car with a WARRANTY. To get the same performance, you're paying more than twice as much, or more, so relatively speaking it's supercar performance at a bargain price :iceslolan
Undoubtedly. Can’t remember which mag it was, but a C6 outperformed its two Porsche Ferrari competitors at the track completely stock.

You just can’t beat that.

Chiquae07
12-13-2006, 11:54 PM
woah. i thought about the whole warrenty thing when i got up this morning, like wtf was i thinking. im just wanting to be flamed lol. jeez, 10.8 on DRs, thats nutz. i mean intake, header, exhaust alone would put it in the low 10s no doubt. thats nutz. i guess ford needs to upgrade their ford gt for this car, which costs 30k less.

TheStang00
12-14-2006, 12:33 AM
woah. i thought about the whole warrenty thing when i got up this morning, like wtf was i thinking. im just wanting to be flamed lol. jeez, 10.8 on DRs, thats nutz. i mean intake, header, exhaust alone would put it in the low 10s no doubt. thats nutz. i guess ford needs to upgrade their ford gt for this car, which costs 30k less.

i hate to tell you this... but they dont make the ford gt anymore. it was a limited edition thing. besides you have to have seen all the mag tests with the ford gt and the z06. the ford is usually a little faster in most tests, but not 30k worth. but thats not entirely the point of the ford gt, you also get the exotic mystic and lemans winner and all that. ive seen a timeslip of a ford gt running 10.9 on stock tires actually, forget where i saw it though but if you google you might find it. but i imagine with a perfect launch with the mid engine layout with 550+ hp it would be possible.

Chiquae07
12-14-2006, 12:54 AM
i remember seeing that over 1000hp on stock internals gt. that was nutz. my jaw was seriously dropped for awhile from that. just watching it. now your making me want to go look for that thread, with the vid posted in it. isn't it like intake alone gives the zo6 like 20whp or soemthin?

Mr. Luos
12-14-2006, 07:20 PM
Depends on what you put it on.

One_Ball_Hung_Low
12-14-2006, 08:31 PM
Luos you should've known. Nothing can take down a C6 except for........



VTECH baby.

Swap out that pointless torque beast you call an engine and replace it with the pinicale of stock automotive perforance...the b18.

Then and only then will you have the power to conquer the lord of the lands...the mighty CORVETTE!!!!!

jeepgclwj
12-14-2006, 08:50 PM
Luos you should've known. Nothing can take down a C6 except for........



VTECH baby.

Swap out that pointless torque beast you call an engine and replace it with the pinicale of stock automotive perforance...the b18.

Then and only then will you have the power to conquer the lord of the lands...the mighty CORVETTE!!!!!


Thats funny...

Mr. Luos
12-14-2006, 09:04 PM
It already has a Prius motor in it.....

VR43000GT
12-14-2006, 09:43 PM
^^ TRD JDM!?!?! Damn.

Chiquae07
12-14-2006, 09:48 PM
i think he needs to change his rechargable batteries for ones that are energizer brand.

Mr. Luos
12-14-2006, 10:41 PM
Been plugged in for a couple days now.

VR43000GT
12-15-2006, 04:47 AM
^^ Thats what she said. (beh I had to much o drink lolz) SRSLKY!

2000LS1Z28
12-16-2006, 11:13 PM
It's more or less what I anticipated. People don't consider how fast the new Z06 is for the most part. Looked like a decent run though. You didn't get stomped too bad :p

Time to continue modding.

Mr. Luos
12-17-2006, 01:30 AM
His gearing played the biggest role.
With the powerband the Z06 has, a roll race is hard for anyone to win against one. The powerband starts at 2500 and stays flat until 7000.

At the track would probably be a different story.
At least I hope. :lol:
At the very least...it would be MUCH closer.

2000LS1Z28
12-17-2006, 04:32 PM
His gearing played the biggest role.
With the powerband the Z06 has, a roll race is hard for anyone to win against one. The powerband starts at 2500 and stays flat until 7000.

At the track would probably be a different story.
At least I hope. :lol:
At the very least...it would be MUCH closer.

That's wishful thinking. If that guy knows what he is doing he should match you or better you 60' wise on equal tires. It would get really ugly if he deleted the torque management.

As bad as this race was imagine what will happen when you go against the S/C'ed Vette coming out. It's time to stop being such a sissy when it comes to putting the nawwsssss on your car ;)

A 200 shot would make you near untouchable, and also make up for the atmospheric conditions that you have at your track.

RACER D12
12-17-2006, 07:35 PM
It's time to stop being such a sissy when it comes to putting the nawwsssss on your car ;)

A 200 shot would make you near untouchable, and also make up for the atmospheric conditions that you have at your track.

:1: DO IT

Mr. Luos
12-17-2006, 08:03 PM
No cage = no nitrous.

11.49 and faster requires a cage. And the car isn't getting one.
Already should be a 10 second car off the mountain.

RACER D12
12-17-2006, 09:01 PM
No cage = no nitrous.

11.49 and faster requires a cage. And the car isn't getting one.
Already should be a 10 second car off the mountain.

Pfft...pussy:rolleyes:

eps
12-18-2006, 07:55 AM
Maybe not a 200 shot, something like 150 would be nice though.

Otherwise you're never going to be fast.

Who cares about the cage. You can run 1/8th mile all day at the track without a cage. It's all in the first 60 feet anyways.

VR43000GT
12-18-2006, 04:25 PM
Maybe not a 200 shot, something like 150 would be nice though.

Otherwise you're never going to be fast.

Who cares about the cage. You can run 1/8th mile all day at the track without a cage. It's all in the first 60 feet anyways.

:lol:

Mr. Luos
12-18-2006, 06:29 PM
Maybe not a 200 shot, something like 150 would be nice though.

Otherwise you're never going to be fast.

Who cares about the cage. You can run 1/8th mile all day at the track without a cage. It's all in the first 60 feet anyways.
You make me laugh.

No 1/8 mile track here. And that is only half a race anyways.
I know there are limits there too though.
I won't race it if it doesn't pass tech for the ET it goes. Safety > all.
That is why they have the rules. To keep you and everyone at the track safe.


And...what the hell is fast to you??
13's?
12's?
11's?
Low 11's?
Upper 10's?

What?

Mad_Maxima
12-18-2006, 06:43 PM
his reply: Mach 5 :lol:

Mr. Luos
12-20-2006, 10:21 PM
his reply: Mach 5 :lol:
Well...I guess that has to be the answer since he never replied.

98BlackTransAm
12-21-2006, 07:26 PM
A 200 shot would make you near untouchable

i'm pretty sure his car has already reached "nearly untouchable" status. also as a personal preference I don't really like using nitrous,, it's more dangerous to your engine and it almost feels like cheating since you can run out of it..I prefer an all motor car or forced induction w/ out a shot of any kind. again tho it's all a matter of opinion and preference.

eps
12-22-2006, 04:01 PM
I would say mid 9s is sufficiently fast enough for the street.

You've got a long way to go buddy.
I'll give you some great advice that you should listen to. I have year and years of racing experience over you, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Anyways, my advice is to sell the car and get something light. It's not big engines and torque that win races, its weight loss that truly matters.
If you want to be competitive, I would say build a turbo Civic or something along those lines.

Mr. Luos
12-22-2006, 04:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Whatever man.
You drive what??
My car will go upper 10's at sea level. Full weight, pump gas, on motor. True street car.
You can't have a 'street' car in the 9's. With everything the NHRA requires to go that fast, the car can't be street legal by any means.

Sure...a street car can go 9's, but it will get kicked off the track. Then it really can't be competitive.

My car was built by me to be fun for me. Not you.


EDIT:
Everyone has a different idea of a street car. You just got mine. We obviously disagree on that.
Also, my car is NOT a race car by any means. It is for fun. Was never meant to be as 'competitive' as you make it sound.

GForce957
12-22-2006, 06:23 PM
I would say mid 9s is sufficiently fast enough for the street.

You've got a long way to go buddy.
I'll give you some great advice that you should listen to. I have year and years of racing experience over you, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Anyways, my advice is to sell the car and get something light. It's not big engines and torque that win races, its weight loss that truly matters.
If you want to be competitive, I would say build a turbo Civic or something along those lines.


hahaha. its pretty obvious you aren't serious. You just were talking about how the corvette had mad torque and no one can compete, now u say all that doesnt matter. Who has a mid 9's street car? Answer no one.

Can we ban him, this is just getting ridiculous

98BlackTransAm
12-22-2006, 07:36 PM
Can we ban him, this is just getting ridiculous

:1:

nothing eps says has any positive value. years and years of racing experience at 20? doubt it.

VR43000GT
12-22-2006, 11:30 PM
ALRIGHTY.................let's exam this, shall we?

I would say mid 9s is sufficiently fast enough for the street.

You've got a long way to go buddy.
I'll give you some great advice that you should listen to. I have year and years of racing experience over you, so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Anyways, my advice is to sell the car and get something light. It's not big engines and torque that win races, its weight loss that truly matters.
If you want to be competitive, I would say build a turbo Civic or something along those lines.

Two very key statements here wouldn't you say?

1) Eps is 20 and and Luos is 27. So I take it you have been doing some mad tyte racing since were 10 or 11?

2)The next statement CLEARLY says it is not so much torque but weight that matter..............(loll I almost shat myself when I heard that coming from him).

Now let us move on to an earlier post made by our dear ever mentally declining friend........eps:

Nah man, think about it. Their engine is so small, they have almost NO torque.
The RX-8 has gobs of torque ON DEMAND (N/A, all he has to to is stomp the gas and instant toruqe. Not like that turbocharger shit that takes ages to get torque) so he just rockets past the bike.

The only advantage the bike has is weight, which really is not that important and the RX-8 does not weight much more than the bike anyways.

Trust me dude, I'm an engineer at Caltech. I know what I'm talking about. I've spent 3 years researching this topic. What do you do? Oh yeah, get dummy retarded with ecstasy...



Shit......rofl......I don't think I even need to explain that. Fuggin A

Chiquae07
12-23-2006, 01:36 AM
his posts are just ignored by me most of the time. i see eps and keep scrolling down. hist posts aren't any good at all. its always switching. i think he is a hater boy. he might even have shirts of your car luos. if cbfryman was banned for dumb posts, then y not eps?

Igovert500
12-23-2006, 10:19 AM
I would say mid 9s is sufficiently fast enough for the street.

You've got a long way to go buddy.
I'll give you some great advice that you should listen to. I have year and years of racing experience over you, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Anyways, my advice is to sell the car and get something light. It's not big engines and torque that win races, its weight loss that truly matters.
If you want to be competitive, I would say build a turbo Civic or something along those lines.


Did you drink Draino as a child?

TheStang00
12-24-2006, 09:10 AM
what do you mean 9s arent possible for a street car? mine does 7s... swear...

bad360rt
12-27-2006, 09:22 AM
I would say mid 9s is sufficiently fast enough for the street.

You've got a long way to go buddy.
I'll give you some great advice that you should listen to. I have year and years of racing experience over you, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Anyways, my advice is to sell the car and get something light. It's not big engines and torque that win races, its weight loss that truly matters.
If you want to be competitive, I would say build a turbo Civic or something along those lines.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What the hell were we thinking building big V8s??? All we need is a turbo Civic and we can run 9's! That's it, I'm selling the truck! Who wants it? :rofl:

Mad_Maxima
12-27-2006, 08:56 PM
That's it, I'm selling the truck! Who wants it?

:wave: five dolla??

TheStang00
12-27-2006, 09:51 PM
:wave: five dolla??

ill bid $5.35

but thats my limit

Chiquae07
12-28-2006, 01:03 AM
i'll trade you a pack of gum, a couple air fresheners, and a song for the truck.

-The Stig-
12-28-2006, 01:53 AM
I would say mid 9s is sufficiently fast enough for the street.

You've got a long way to go buddy.
I'll give you some great advice that you should listen to. I have year and years of racing experience over you, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Anyways, my advice is to sell the car and get something light. It's not big engines and torque that win races, its weight loss that truly matters.
If you want to be competitive, I would say build a turbo Civic or something along those lines.


Each time you post, God kills a kitten.


Please think of the kittens.

Chiquae07
12-28-2006, 02:36 AM
of that was the case, lets all buy old rwd celicas and miatas and swap in v8s........well basically that is what made the 1st shelby if i can remember right. biggest engine into lightest car.

TheStang00
12-28-2006, 02:40 AM
they made the ol shelby with a ford 427 and 289. the 427 was simply badass. although i bet the 289 handled better.

Chiquae07
12-28-2006, 02:45 AM
i dont know all the specs, but that was the point of the project anyway. i think it was on the discovery channel if i can recall.

TheStang00
01-01-2007, 04:04 AM
actually you know, people do sometimes swap 302 v8's into miatas. ive heard that they are rediculous. such a light car...

BlackGT2000
01-01-2007, 12:47 PM
Some where lurking in VA beach there is a LS1 Miata. I have had a couple of friends talk to the guy and confirm the swap. I have never seen it in action but its gotta be a mean car.

Chiquae07
01-01-2007, 01:08 PM
its called monster miata. put that in you tube and it comes up. that would ruin the car for me prob, unless the engine weighs the same or similar and maybe some carbon fiber and a battery relocation kit would lkeep the 50-50. but that wouldn't be true would it?

BlackGT2000
01-01-2007, 01:37 PM
I doubt the LS1 miata really suffers at all with the conversion. Its pretty well proven that the RX7s that have been converted only gain a significant power advantage, and some reliability. I have read someone has an LS1 miata that weighs 2140 pounds

Mad_Maxima
01-01-2007, 03:00 PM
a battery relocation kit would keep the 50-50.

besides the new gen, the battery is already in the trunk for the miata.

I'd love to do a MX-5.0, but the kit alone cost 4G's, a little too much for me right now. Plus Id' prolly have to get a shop to swap it out, so tack on more for labor. :-/

TheStang00
01-01-2007, 03:35 PM
yeah it would be awesome. but the 302 and the ls1 dont really weigh all that much. im sure it wouldnt be that hard to get 50/50 dist. with them. but you would have to figure out your new spring configuration right.

Chiquae07
01-01-2007, 04:25 PM
how about i just get the miata first, and worry about that later? lol. im glad this car is still there after being there for 2 months. the supercharger system from jackson racing is looking good, so is the flyin, and the v8 swap. too many choices. i wonder if a k24 would work, as i see there is a company that put one in the newest mr2 and runs 12s w/o any mods. dont think it would work though.

Thourun
01-01-2007, 09:30 PM
My usual shop just finished putting a LS1 into a miata I think, I saw it around somtimes... they always have some sick cars in there.

BlackGT2000
01-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Yeah I just checked another forum regarding someone who has done the swap and they said that the LS1 is no heavier than the iron 4 cylinder that was in it stock. The weight distribution remains the same.

youngvr4
01-01-2007, 10:28 PM
I would say mid 9s is sufficiently fast enough for the street.

You've got a long way to go buddy.
I'll give you some great advice that you should listen to. I have year and years of racing experience over you, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Anyways, my advice is to sell the car and get something light. It's not big engines and torque that win races, its weight loss that truly matters.
If you want to be competitive, I would say build a turbo Civic or something along those lines.


:disappoin

you make no sense...next time you type, think!!!

Mr. Luos
01-01-2007, 10:29 PM
Drop an LS1 into an 93-95 RX7 and you make the car 50/50.
Adds a little weight, but makes the distribution perfect.

I have heard similiar about the Miatas. But I am not sure what the distribution is with the LS1.

The LS1 is quite a bit lighter than the 302. The LS1 tends to be lighter than most any motor...including a lot of 4 cylinders.

youngvr4
01-01-2007, 10:31 PM
whats the weight diff between LS6 and LS1?

Chiquae07
01-02-2007, 12:13 AM
dont give me ideas young lol. i dont want to be a dead young kid just yet lol.

Mad_Maxima
01-02-2007, 12:28 AM
What kinda MX-5 are you looking at, NA or NB??

-The Stig-
01-02-2007, 01:25 AM
whats the weight diff between LS6 and LS1?


Should be the same, they're the same motors basically with minor differences.

I think the crankshaft is different, not sure what though... maybe wrong. But they have a different intake manifold (01+ LS1's got the LS6 intake), different heads, different cam shaft and valve train and I believe the exhaust manifolds might be slightly different.

If there is a difference, it'd be minor.

VR43000GT
01-02-2007, 01:27 AM
This should clear the LS1 & LS6 comparison up:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/z06/ls1ls6.html

Thourun
01-02-2007, 04:26 AM
LS6 is all about a little higher compression and redline no?

BlackGT2000
01-02-2007, 09:59 AM
The miata I was looking at was a NB

Chiquae07
01-02-2007, 12:09 PM
its a NB, 1.8. if i could find a mazdaspeed miata for under 10k, that would be it, but thats not going to happen any time soon.

Mad_Maxima
01-02-2007, 01:31 PM
http://www.stageonetuning.com/browseproducts/SOT-Supercharger-(99-05-Miata)-w--E.M..HTML

have you looked into that SC kit, I've heard nothing but good things. hook it up to a 99 or 00 miata and you'll be set, with the possibilities to upgrade later on down the road.

98BlackTransAm
01-02-2007, 02:47 PM
how about putting a blown ls1 in a miata :bloated:. talk about the ultimate sleeper :grinyes:

Chiquae07
01-02-2007, 03:32 PM
a blown ls1...can i say no traction? i mean its hard enough that luos can't get traction in a 3000+ lbs car on drag slicks. so what makes a 2200 lbs car get traction with even less power? are you nutz? it would be no way sleeper, because the only way to get traction would be to get those 20' chromed out rims, since they weigh so much and make the gears taller.

Mr. Luos
01-02-2007, 07:34 PM
I make more power than most blown LS1's.
Obviously not a completely built one, but you know what I mean.

Just drop the LS6 into said Miata and GO!!!!

98BlackTransAm
01-03-2007, 02:41 AM
a blown ls1...can i say no traction? i mean its hard enough that luos can't get traction in a 3000+ lbs car on drag slicks. so what makes a 2200 lbs car get traction with even less power? are you nutz? it would be no way sleeper, because the only way to get traction would be to get those 20' chromed out rims, since they weigh so much and make the gears taller.

lol who cares about traction,, just burn the tires so hard you create a wind vortex that sucks your opponent backwards :grinyes:

youngvr4
01-18-2007, 01:10 AM
lmao^^ thats the way to think lol

Mr. Luos
05-05-2007, 06:00 PM
Not normally a fan of bringing back threads, but this doesn't warrent a new thread.

Anyways...
That Z06 wasn't stock. It was at least tuned for that race. 95% chance of it having a Katech cam in it, but still running the stock manifolds.
I consider that a good thing. :lol:

-The Stig-
05-05-2007, 08:24 PM
:lol: I knew it!

Cavi_Kid015
05-06-2007, 11:36 AM
I watched the video several times, and both cars are straight amazing. Good 2 see u could hold with him. :licka:

nissanfanatic
05-06-2007, 12:20 PM
how many other cars here can hang like that with a Zo6?


:)

......


He definitely traps maybe 3mph higher than you... From the second race, it didn't look like you had much of a chance of catching him anytime soon..

Nice races none the less..!!

-The Stig-
05-06-2007, 03:41 PM
:)

......


He definitely traps maybe 3mph higher than you... From the second race, it didn't look like you had much of a chance of catching him anytime soon..

Nice races none the less..!!


They're still trapping higher than you, and quicker ET's. (11.5 @ 127mph best I've seen in the mags)

Although your little 240 isn't a slouch by no means.:wink:

nissanfanatic
05-06-2007, 04:07 PM
There is no way the Z06 in that video is trapping 128mph if Luos was trapping 115mph... A 13mph difference in trap speeds is...huge..

Hanging with a car is usually a +/- 4mph trap speed difference.. Anything more than that and you aren't hanging with them..

GForce957
05-06-2007, 06:05 PM
Luos is up at everest level altitude tho, thats why his trap speed is slow. The Z06 isnt going to be running a 128 where he is.

nissanfanatic
05-06-2007, 07:08 PM
True..

-The Stig-
05-06-2007, 09:28 PM
Yep... their both on level playing grounds... it's just the level playing grounds is about 26,000ft up. Hell, a Geo Metro is faster than them at that altitude.

I'm coming for you Luos! Dammit I'm coming for you!

Metroooooooo!!!!

nissanfanatic
05-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Or...around 5000ft...hehe Using Westminster as a reference..

-Josh-
05-07-2007, 07:49 PM
I've always like your car Luos, sounds like your one tweak away from beating a cammed Z06...


oooh your mind must be wrenching...lol



I raced a TA with one of those cams in it, probably not nearly as aggressive as the Z06's but you have to hear those things in person to get a total appreciation of how bad ass it sounds.

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