I'm about to buy an 01' WS6. It has stock exhaust. I want to get the quad tips for the exhaust tips. I want my exhaust to be LOUD! What should I get done and how much will it cost (installation and all).

Mr. Luos...a video or sound clip of your car would be nice. Just so you know...your WS6 is my DREAM CAR. I bet there isn't a thing on the road around here that will keep up with you.

Install for a catback is easy.
I had little idea what I was doing and it took an hour when I did my first one.

I would say Magnaflow. Not too loud at idle and lower RPM's...but at WOT it is loud and very good sounding.


This is three different sound clips on the dyno of my car. Remember, this is custom exhaust with a stroker motor.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/dynotimes.wmv

Longtubes and a loudmouth catback.

http://www.ls1sounds.com/SLPloudmouth/LM_PacesetterLT_ORY_TR224-114_timcam.wmv

Yup, the loudmouth is nice and loud, sounds good at idle as well. It was the first thing I did with my ss. Also freaks people who are behind me when it starts shooting sparks out of the exhaust.

Longtubes and a loudmouth catback.

http://www.ls1sounds.com/SLPloudmouth/LM_PacesetterLT_ORY_TR224-114_timcam.wmv
Oh god no.

I had that set-up.
I got rid of the Loudmouth. Doesn't sound like a V8.

I love the sound of the stock exhaust on the WS6 but I want it to be louder. I clicked on your link Mr. Luos and I like how your car sounds with all of the exhaust systems with the exception of the Magnaflow system. It just doesn't sound that loud to me. If I recall, you're not a big fan of Flowmaster exhaust are you?

If you could, please come up with an exhaust system that is loud and mean sounding. Please provide a link to the items and let me know about how much it would cost to order the items and have them installed. Thanks in advance.

I'm just afraid of putting an exhaust system on the WS6 and missing the stock exhaust. I also want to put quad 3' pipes on the WS6 too. Not like the vette, 2 pipes on the left and 2 on the right.

We disagree several on several things.

Two single 3.5" tips works the best on the Trans Am's.
My favorite sounding clip is the Magnaflow. The camera mic can't really pick up the sound that well.

You want good sounding and loud??? LT's with a Magnaflow catback.
I dislike Flowmaster because the power gains are minimal.

LS1sounds.com is a large sound site. Just remember, camera mics aren't always the best.

This is LT's and a Magnaflow catback.
http://www.ls1sounds.com/magnaflow/magnaflow_QTP-LT-ORY_WOT30-80flyby.MPG

Disregard what I said earlier. That clip of the white Trans Am is NICE. I just thought that the other exhaust setups sounded better than magnaflow on the first link.

I will definitely look into magnaflow. Thank you very much for the links and advice. About how much would it cost to order the magnaflow system and have it installed?

Install it yourself. Will only require a couple basic tools and a jack with stands. Couple hours. Might need a sawsall to get the stock stuff off.

The Magnaflow catback costs about $450 brand new. Install varies, but it wouldn't be much as it is pretty straight forward and easy.
Longtube headers are a different story.

Borla or GMMG exhaust sounds good too. But both a bit pricey comparatively at around ~$800. You can check both those systems out too at www.ls1sounds.com

But I'm still going to run LM with my setup next spring.

A catback install should be cake, never done one before, but did my longtubes and weren't too difficult. Just install the catback yourself.

But I'm still going to run LM with my setup next spring.
I am truely sorry.

From what I've always been told is that the SLP loudmouth is great if you have stock manifolds but when you get LT's you should go with something like magnaflow. When you have SLP and LT's I've heard it is very raspy.

I am truely sorry.

I know, but I always have to learn things the hard way. I haven't heard a full exhaust setup w/ the LM in person, so I don't know what everyone hates about it. I think its good for the price, design, and its stainless steel. I'll admit defeat next spring if I hate it, but I'll rub it in if I like it. But I am also running a cat though, not ORY.

Cat makes it even worse.

if you're only doing catback then i'd go w/ loudmouth, but LT's + LM and you'll quickly realize there's such a thing as "too loud." lt/ory/magnaflow is a great set up for both sound and performance gains. flowmaster is a waste of $$ :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

I love flowmaster in gen1 SBCs, and I would probably love it in LT1s or LS1s but I don't think I've heard it on those engines before. Mr. Lous doesn't like flomaster because of the restriction but he's making 500+hp and if he were to switch his magnaflows for flowmasters there would probably be less than a 15hp differance. And any car that has less power than his car is going lose even less hp. I like the LT LM combo at idle and when the RPMs are going up, at both part throttle and WOT it sounds awesome. BUT when the RPMs go down it pops and cracks really bad. Plus long tubes + loudmouth = DRONE DRONE DRONE. Think flowmaster drone * 4.

flowmaster has its place, just not on ls1's. I had flowmaster on my old 3.4 v6 grand am and I loved it, but i hate the sound on ls1's and it (dyno-proven) will net you the least amount of power over other brands even on a completely stock car.

I will say this about flowmaster, the flowmaster catback that came with the car sounded great. Deep idle and loud at WOT. But when I installed longtubes, everything got quite. Its the strangest thing. I thought a loud catback with longtubes would be a little louder, but its not. I can barely hear it at idle inside the car. And it mellows out up top as well. That's why I'm changing mine. Sound-wise though, flowmaster is good.

I like the LM exhaust. I don't think there is such a thing as too loud. I had my '92 RS dumped behind the headers for a couple of days and it was loud, but not too loud.

Mr. Lous doesn't like flomaster because of the restriction
Why spend money on a catback that doesn't really add much performance??

It isn't just the restriction. It is the fact that there are plenty of better options that actually give you gains and sound.
Flowmasters sound okay in my opinion. Magnaflow sounds better (opinion of course), and will gain several ponies over the Flowmaster system.
To me, power is power at any level. The less you make the more I would think you want to get out of your exhaust.

Why spend money on a catback that doesn't really add much performance??
Because most people would rather have a catback that they like the sound of more than they would like to spend a couple hundred more for 3 hp gain.

It isn't just the restriction. It is the fact that there are plenty of better options that actually give you gains and sound.
Opinion. Flowmaster gives horsepower gains and great sound plus usually costs less than other systems. Personally, I love flowmaster's sound on most cars, much more than magnoflow. There are many people out there that feel the same way and would rather save at least a $100 over the magnoflow and buy a flowmaster. On a stock car, that $100 dollars can be spent on other mods that will more than make up the 3 hp between exaust systems.

The less you make the more I would think you want to get out of your exhaust.
The less you make the less hp you'll lose to the exaust. If you drive a lower hp car then I think you would be much more concerned about having a sound you like than a couple hp.

We won't agree on this.

Magnaflow > Flowmaster
:lol:

I see what Nate is saying and I agree. MOST people buy exhaust for the sound, not necessarily for performance gains. But MOST of us don't have a HUGE Friggin' Built motor that we want to squeeze every little pony out of.

But I also see what Luos is saying in that 10 hp is 10 hp. But for most street cars, a mean sound trumps a few ponies.

We won't agree on this. :lol:

I agree with that :lol:.

If I went to the dyno and made 399 wheel horsepower maybe I'd reconsider getting a higher flowing catback cause that little extra to break into the 400s would be nice to have. Right now I've got dynomax catback, but I don't have a clue which one. It's nice but I would like it louder, I'm getting tired of the whole sleeper thing, I just want it to roar. Damn I wish Borla wasn't 800 some bucks, I love their adjustibility.

Pace Setter?