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ultranet
10-27-2006, 05:23 AM
what car do u have? how fast have u drove car?................

Ssom
10-27-2006, 05:29 AM
95 Honda Accord, for which I've gotten up to 170 Km/h (105ish mph). I would have taken it faster, but being 10 years old, the suspension is no longer up to the job...


Being an NZ New car (Hence not ex-JDM), the speedo goes up to 220 Kmh, I'd say the maximum speed'd be something like 200ish

Toksin
10-27-2006, 07:50 AM
i like to drive cars!

nissan_240sx
10-27-2006, 07:57 AM
1992 nissan 240sx - 110~+ pinned

fredjacksonsan
10-27-2006, 08:02 AM
i like to drive cars!

:cwm27:


Jeep Grand Cherokee, 95mph*. It had more.


I usually just go fast in airplanes. :bigthumb:




























*only where allowed by law

blazee
10-27-2006, 08:17 AM
1998 Blazer - 98MPH
1996 Impala SS - 140+mph
1985 Camaro - Unknown (pulled the 2.8l V6 and squeezed in a 400sb and allison tranny, speedo wasn't recalibrated, but I wrapped the needle around once and back up to 50MPH)

fredjacksonsan
10-27-2006, 08:20 AM
1985 Camaro - Unknown (pulled the 2.8l V6 and squeezed in a 400sb and allison tranny, speedo wasn't recalibrated, but I wrapped the needle around once and back up to 50MPH)

So - what were the rpms? If your speedo was calibrated since then, just go at 1/2 the rpms and double the indicated speed.

ghostrx7
10-27-2006, 08:45 AM
140+ 88 rx7 turbo, tein suspension...... havent found a straight enought highway in connecticut to get higher, but i had more!

l_eclipse_l
10-27-2006, 10:16 AM
'99 Eclipse N/T - 128 mph if the fastest I have done, and that was close to redlining in 4th on the interstate (shitty auto)

-Jayson-
10-27-2006, 11:27 AM
130+ Mph

bluevp00
10-27-2006, 11:56 AM
~102 mph in my Civic
105 mph in a `98 caravan

93rollaracer
10-27-2006, 12:53 PM
105 in the 93 Corolla...past a cop...didn't get pulled over.

BP2K2Max
10-27-2006, 12:59 PM
135 in the car, 140 on the ninja.

Alibi
10-27-2006, 01:00 PM
On my 89 LeSabre my speedo only goes up to to 100MPH and I was still accelerating past where the needle stopped so I'd have to guess 105-110MPH.

I had a 1990 Olds 88 that the speedo only went up to 85. However, I was following my ex and her dad on a Harley. He was going a 130 at one point and I wasn't falling too far behind....but we are talking FWD v6 NA so I'm sure I was't going 130. Probably around the same 105-110 range.

ec437
10-27-2006, 04:38 PM
You're all dumb. Don't go that fast on public roads in the US, unless you're in the middle of montana. Save it for a track.

That said I've done 110 in a rental station wagon. On a track.

PS let the flaming begin:icon16:

bjboertje
10-27-2006, 04:39 PM
95mph in a 95 Ford Aspire:eek: , down a big hill:lol:

2.2 Straight six
10-27-2006, 04:41 PM
golf will do 155. i've never tried it in my golf, but a friend had a spame spec V5 2-door and we hit the 155mph limiter a couple of times.

been faster in other cars, friends work in a tuning company. fast cars galore.

ghostrx7
10-27-2006, 04:48 PM
dumb yet surprisingly exciting...!!

2.2 Straight six
10-27-2006, 04:51 PM
Golf's a bit of a sleeper, it's actually pretty quick.

170bhp and 150lb/ft never felt so good...

vinnym86
10-27-2006, 04:57 PM
1993 Honda Civic
most i've done: 105mph

ghostrx7
10-27-2006, 05:08 PM
2.2, i was talking bout the guy that said speeding is stupid, not ur golf, just to clarify.....

2.2 Straight six
10-27-2006, 05:10 PM
yeah...change your story.....

YogsVR4
10-27-2006, 05:13 PM
Of course the speedometer is not reliable after about 120 mph so take anything above that with a grain of salt.

94 VR4 160+
95 VR4 Spyder 130+
02 Accord EX 110ish
06 Titan 90
81 DMC 84 :p (course it was bit faster)

Toksin
10-27-2006, 06:32 PM
81 DMC 84 :p (course it was bit faster)

Only speed that matters in that thing is 88 ;)

GreyGoose006
10-27-2006, 11:00 PM
unless you get hit with a bolt of electricity, fry the flux capacitor, and allow the whole 1.2 giggawatts to get to the time circuts and you get transported back to the wild west...
(Back to the future III. just watched them all. have the three disk set on DVD)

Dyno247365
10-27-2006, 11:24 PM
I didn't go top speed in my camaro but It was faster than 110, which I've done in my nissan. You ain't got NOTHIN on me! except some stupid parking tickets...

xeroinfinity
10-27-2006, 11:57 PM
Ok !


You are all under arrest for rekless dwiving :lol:

Andydg
10-28-2006, 12:54 AM
About 140 in my old GSX...I don't know how accurate the speedo is once it gets up that high so it was probably lower.

Dyno247365
10-28-2006, 01:28 AM
Ok !


You are all under arrest for rekless dwiving :lol:

I was taking this survey and my counsleor asked how many days out of 30 that I had participated in any illegal activities, speeding, underage drinking, and then I said, god I speed every day, but speeding isn't as serious as underage drinking should be. It was ridiculous.

Dyno247365
10-28-2006, 01:30 AM
Only speed that matters in that thing is 88 ;)

I wanna buy one, video tape myself going 88 in it and then send this back to delorean, THIS SHIT IS DEFECTIVE!!!

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-28-2006, 11:42 AM
On my Eclipse, a tad under 130 on a flat straightaway, then about 140 goin on a downwards slope.

Weeeeeeeeee!

xeroinfinity
10-28-2006, 12:37 PM
fastest I've been in a car is about 186mph, in a 1/4 :D
Not on the road tho....

150ish in my GA GT :P (in the desert :))
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/xeroinfinity/AUTOMOBILES/cluster145.jpg
Blew the lower intake in the process :angryfire

Dyno247365
10-28-2006, 02:15 PM
fastest I've been in a car is about 186mph, in a 1/4 :D
Not on the road tho....

150ish in my GA GT :P (in the desert :))
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/xeroinfinity/AUTOMOBILES/cluster145.jpg
Blew the lower intake in the process :angryfire

which car did you do 186 in?

Quickshift
10-28-2006, 03:31 PM
fastest I've been in a car is about 186mph, in a 1/4 :D
Not on the road tho....

150ish in my GA GT :P (in the desert :))
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/xeroinfinity/AUTOMOBILES/cluster145.jpg
Blew the lower intake in the process :angryfire


You shifted to N then took the pic?

As a passenger I've gone 140.

beef_bourito
10-28-2006, 07:11 PM
in my car i did 100 once, it's a 92 accord and it could do more but i don't want to test the burgundy bitch, she might get pissed off at me.

about 130 in my moms accord v6 just to see how fast it was, i was stupid, it was before i got my speeding ticket and stopped speeding too much.

xeroinfinity
10-28-2006, 07:49 PM
which car did you do 186 in?

Not my car :( but a 70' Cuda 440 bored over, blower w/2 1150cfm holley DP. About 1200 hp :rofl:

You shifted to N then took the pic?

As a passenger I've gone 140.

No I shifted to N because some punk in a new Shelby stang passed me like I was sitting still, didnt even see him sneak up on me... after he passed , I couldnt keep up. :grinno:

My passenger was in the back seat(safty issue:)) with the laptop/camera, he kept raising the limiter a little at a time.
It was a testing thing :grinyes:

bluevp00
10-28-2006, 08:00 PM
Wow, the engine is only turning at like 1200 RPM at that speed, you must have a huge overdrive gear.:wink:

jcz1987
10-28-2006, 10:25 PM
The fastest I have gone in mine is 140 at the moment and it was still going I had to slow down since the straight away was not that long...

blindside.AMG
10-28-2006, 10:31 PM
01 E55.....limited to 155mph....with still a lot left on the table. :licka:

richardpv
10-28-2006, 10:49 PM
I dont have a car yet but i am probably going for 140 - 150 MPH.

Jimster
10-28-2006, 10:53 PM
01 E55.....limited to 155mph....with still a lot left on the table. :licka:

Pffffft, I'd have thought that you could get rid of that limiter with your eyes closed :p

blindside.AMG
10-28-2006, 11:09 PM
Pffffft, I'd have thought that you could get rid of that limiter with your eyes closed :p

Eh, haven't really had any interest in trying since I got the car. I heard it's not as easy you'd think, even with an all-access pass to a diagnoses machine. Perhaps I should try this week. :icon16:

beef_bourito
10-29-2006, 12:22 AM
well after driving an slr i can see how you wouldn't really care about going fast in your little slow ass amg lol. damn, i need a quicker car.

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 07:33 AM
I dont have a car yet but i am probably going for 140 - 150 MPH.

i think you've missed the point, the thread starter's asking what speed have you done, and in what car.

speeddemonGtV6
10-29-2006, 12:20 PM
uhh 140 in my Saab 900 Turbo, and about 160ish in my buddys stang cobra

Street18
10-29-2006, 12:25 PM
the fasted i went was 8mph......n i only did it because i was almost late to school :)

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 03:06 PM
the fasted i went was 8mph......n i only did it because i was almost late to school :)

i'm not surprised you were late if you were only going at 8mph.

Dyno247365
10-29-2006, 03:17 PM
i'm not surprised you were late if you were only going at 8mph.

What's the fastest a human being can run?

skibum1111
10-29-2006, 06:25 PM
Human being can sustain 18ish mph if in really good shape (translates to a little less than a 4 minute mile).

87 trans am 140mph
95 grand am gt 130mph and it started getting very light in the front
91 suzuki gsxr1100 somewhere around 165
00 camaro ss so far 150

Finding a track to play on with a nice long straight isn't all that easy, around here you have to be a member of scca to get time on most of the ovals.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-29-2006, 07:16 PM
180MPH Public road in moded Mitsubishi 3000gt.

streetrcr45
10-29-2006, 07:28 PM
120MPH in my 2001 NEON. lol thats when the rev limiter kicks in.
135MPH in daddy's 1993 accord.
160mph in buddy's Camaro SS(don't know what he has done to it but its a beast.) and i was the passenger so i guess it doesn't count.
150 or so mph in ex gf's mom's 2004 BMW 540i

ec437
10-29-2006, 07:36 PM
180MPH Public road in moded Mitsubishi 3000gt.

Congratulations, you are an idiot.:wink:

Said only half-jokingly....

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 07:57 PM
180MPH Public road in moded Mitsubishi 3000gt.

i never believe anything you say about your car after looking through your CarDomain page.

i've never seen an ex-race car (of which i've seen many) that has the enitre stock enterior, no roll-cage, no race seats and no harnesses.

apart from that, the car in the magazine article is not your car, it has different wheels, a different spoiler, and the engine bay is different too.

and on top of that, visually there's nothing to suggest that your car makes the "530bhp" you claim it does. i'd be quite amazed if your car could break 150, let alone 180.

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 08:09 PM
Uh oh...

Ralliart 3000gt
10-29-2006, 08:09 PM
Damn the mags and the face lift gave it away lol
Is there anyone who thinks the same as this guy. I can hit 100+ MPH in second gear (6 speed) from a launch detuned on pump gas 15psi down from race 20psi, now you do the math, my car also has a top speed of 193mph FYI...........

Oh I still have those mags from the magazine at home if you want a pic ;)

The engine bay isn't any different to the mag apart from the BOV (which i replaced) K&N catch can and samco joins (which I also replaced)

Bloody num nutts

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 08:12 PM
oh no, i've seen enough of this "rocket" thanks.

i know you can facelift a car, i still don't believe it though.

skibum1111
10-29-2006, 08:17 PM
I'm on the fence on this one. 100+mph in second gear is kinda tough to believe. Whatcha got for gear ratios? I'm thinking second would have to be a bit tall to hit that speed. I get 80 out of the camaro, and that's pushing it hard.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-29-2006, 08:26 PM
oh no, i've seen enough of this "rocket" thanks.

i know you can facelift a car, i still don't believe it though.

You know, if you were in NZ I would challenge you to a race, but people like you would either run away, turn up in their mums car, or both............

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 08:27 PM
according to the magazine article, the car has a 6-speed gearbox.

Getrag don't make a front transverse 6-speed gearbox for all-wheel-drive.

they only make a 5-speed for that spec, and it's rated to take 320Nm, or 236lb/ft. and if "your" 3000GT was making "530bhp" i think it would be making a little more than 236lb/ft.

it doesn't fit, does it?

vinnym86
10-29-2006, 08:33 PM
Wait! What's the off in the distance?

Is it a bird? Is it a plane?

No! it's 2.2 with more Ownage!

lawl

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 08:40 PM
but people like you would either run away, turn up in their mums car, or both............


Cuz that made alot of sense...

Toksin
10-29-2006, 08:41 PM
Wow.

KustmAce
10-29-2006, 08:52 PM
I went 240 once in a school zone going uphill backwards with both doors open and 5 people in the backseat tuning my converted race cavalier then went through a police parade and they didn't even come after me.

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 08:59 PM
only 240?

i thought with your tweaked Get-Ragged 'box you could do like 490?

blazee
10-29-2006, 09:03 PM
I went 240 once in a school zone going uphill backwards with both doors open and 5 people in the backseat tuning my converted race cavalier then went through a police parade and they didn't even come after me.Damn that was you? I was the guy that passed you in the break down lane, drunk, hanging out the window, yelling at the kids to get out of the way while jumping the curb at the bus stop.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-29-2006, 09:04 PM
according to the magazine article, the car has a 6-speed gearbox.

Getrag don't make a front transverse 6-speed gearbox for all-wheel-drive.

they only make a 5-speed for that spec, and it's rated to take 320Nm, or 236lb/ft. and if "your" 3000GT was making "530bhp" i think it would be making a little more than 236lb/ft.

it doesn't fit, does it?

So there is no 6 speed getrag which came stock in the VR-4 which had AWD is there?? lol shows how much you really know, which is nothing at all..............

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 09:07 PM
according to their website, no, there isn't.

http://www.getrag.de/314.1?criteria1=_MT_&criteria2=_Front_transverse_&criteria3=&Ergebnisse=0&x=19&y=8

why don't you point out the 6-speed, front transverse, AWD 'box from that list.

maybe my eyesight's going, because i can't see it.

KustmAce
10-29-2006, 09:10 PM
only 240?

i thought with your tweaked Get-Ragged 'box you could do like 490?

i hadnt shifted out of first gear yet

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 09:13 PM
oh, i see.

you have the 11-speed, right?

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 09:29 PM
So there is no 6 speed getrag which came stock in the VR-4 which had AWD is there?? lol shows how much you really know, which is nothing at all..............

Not till '93.

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 09:34 PM
you learn something new everyday.

you car's not listed as a VR-4 either.

and before you ask, no, i don't believe you swapped in a later gearbox.

you've come up with enough bullshit already, i can't see anyone believing you now.

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 09:38 PM
100mph is closer to the realm of possibility in a 5 speed btw. Obviously people want a 6 speed to have more ranges of speed, so who the hell would want a 6 speed that hits 100mph in 2nd? 6th gear would ridiculously tall.

2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 09:40 PM
100mph is closer to the realm of possibility in a 5 speed btw. Obviously people want a 6 speed to have more ranges of speed, so who the hell would want a 6 speed that hits 100mph in 2nd? 6th gear would ridiculously tall.

that would be an insanely tall 2nd gear.

3rd is more believeable for both a 5 and 6-speed.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-29-2006, 09:56 PM
The first gen Mitsubishi 3000gt came with the five speed getrag W5MGI the second gen 94-99 came with the W6MG1 which has the same design to the first appart from the addition of an extra gear.

http://www.stealth316.com/2-awd2.htm

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 09:59 PM
Your page says its a 91...making it a First gen.

wilfie27
10-29-2006, 10:00 PM
165 mph in a non-turbo stock 87' RX7 on Autobahn 6 going from Mannheim to Heidelburg, I thought I needed goggles and then got my doors blown off by a 4-door Mercedes doing I guess 190+. My front end started to get light so I shut it down. The combination of the speed of my fuel gage and the price of gas in Germany kept me from doing that very often.

elementskater15
10-29-2006, 10:00 PM
i managed to hit 140 in my civic with no interior down a bridge and drafting behind a camaro...and my car does 92 in 3rd...to add to the tall gear argument above

Ralliart 3000gt
10-29-2006, 10:01 PM
I can also reach 60mph in first................

vinnym86
10-29-2006, 10:18 PM
yeah, well, I have an auto :(

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 10:32 PM
Some quotes from a friend of mine thats 3kgt expert.

"that statement is fucking impossible"
"2nd gear on a 6 speed barley hits 73 @ 7000"
"and if they race gas for 20psi- they are on fucking crack, vr4 stock runs easily on 24"
"and if the car is a 6spd and does over 100 in 2nd, its top speed would be in excess of 300MPH"
" there were many design changes besides just an addition of an extra gear or two. the housings are tottaly different, as are the tcases, as are many other integral components,the W5MG1 is a 5 Spd AWD. W6MG1 is the 6SPD AWD, Both made by Getrag in Germany."
"there are actually 3 different versions of the W5MG1, 91 technically has the worst of them, 92 being about middle...and LATE 92 and 93 having the stronger W5MG1."
"fucking hilarious, stillen is umm in the US.. and usually doesnt mess with the 3kgt.. usually it is the 300zx's. 4 sec 0-60mph? Stock is 4.1"
"and if it lags til 4K-- something is def really fucking wrong"


I now know alot more about the subject than I cared for, but I just like the fact that a girl knows more about your car than you do.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-29-2006, 11:09 PM
^^^ OMG where the fuck did this nerd come from with his girl freinds Sony Grand Toursimo Knowledg, FUCK!!!

We are not talking about a stock 3kgt mate.

I can hit 100kph (60mph) in First gear from a launch WTF only 13mph more for second, think about that one......

On crack for using what race gas & 20psi??? show me a stock standard engine thats been pushing 24psi for any amount of time on pump without blowing up, actually, you do know that race gas doesn't add power don't you???

Ralliart built my car dick head, not stillen.... WTF a 300zx doing 4.1 stock, I think you meen 5.5

You know nothing about cars!!! telling me a girl knows more about my car than I do, Go back to playing with yourself.................

Dyno247365
10-29-2006, 11:20 PM
Umm, someone needs to be banned, and it ain't me. Someone must be lying, but I don't know who it is, but just to add, you said your car was made by stillen on your cardomain site.

replicant_008
10-29-2006, 11:22 PM
I've done 150 MPH in a stock standard BF Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo Automatic(speed limited to 240 km/h and confirmed off the gearing chart) on a circuit - stock as it was my company car.

I don't remember what the NSX did on the drive day on the same circuit at the same place because the passenger (one of the Honda sales folk) was yelling a lot and his knuckles were clenched after I bypassed the traffic cone chicane they'd put just before the kink to slow everyone down...

The quickest I've been in a road registered car was about 163 MPH again on a circuit... it was certainly the quickest car I've been in - it gets to 60 mph from a standing start in less than 4 on road tyres and less than 3 on slicks but it's questionable at this stage of development it will ever see a public road legally again... except on a trailer.

The quickest I have driven on a public road was about 135 MPH - it was a Mercedes rental in France, I was in a hurry on an autoroute but I was getting the hell out of the way of a Porsche which had flashed its lights in the ultra fast lane. He passed me like I was stationary...

Toksin
10-29-2006, 11:48 PM
^^^ OMG where the fuck did this nerd come from with his girl freinds Sony Grand Toursimo Knowledg, FUCK!!!

We are not talking about a stock 3kgt mate.

I can hit 100kph (60mph) in First gear from a launch WTF only 13mph more for second, think about that one......

On crack for using what race gas & 20psi??? show me a stock standard engine thats been pushing 24psi for any amount of time on pump without blowing up, actually, you do know that race gas doesn't add power don't you???

Ralliart built my car dick head, not stillen.... WTF a 300zx doing 4.1 stock, I think you meen 5.5

You know nothing about cars!!! telling me a girl knows more about my car than I do, Go back to playing with yourself.................


Calm down. Show us your proof.

KustmAce
10-30-2006, 01:36 AM
cock fight!

bagawk!!!

BP2K2Max
10-30-2006, 01:54 AM
my bike does those speeds, 60 out of first and just over 100 out of second. those must be some long ass gears in that 3kgt.

Street18
10-30-2006, 02:08 AM
i'm not surprised you were late if you were only going at 8mph.

yea it was a close one, i live across the street from my school, n my pedal on my bike broke half way...almost got hit by a short yellow school bus :frown:
SCARIEST day of my life!

Dyno247365
10-30-2006, 02:11 AM
yea it was a close one, i live across the street from my school, n my pedal on my bike broke half way...almost got hit by a short yellow school bus :frown:
SCARIEST day of my life!

My second guess was a bike, i'm confused, you pedaled in between a short bus??

Street18
10-30-2006, 02:17 AM
My second guess was a bike, i'm confused, you pedaled in between a short bus??

no, i was half-way across the street, when this bus came speedin at me!, luckily for my air-jordans, i jumped all-tha way to the sidewalk without gettin hit, but my bike was run over, all four-wheels bent up pretty badly, had to replace em

Dyno247365
10-30-2006, 02:22 AM
no, i was half-way across the street, when this bus came speedin at me!, luckily for my air-jordans, i jumped all-tha way to the sidewalk without gettin hit, but my bike was run over, all four-wheels bent up pretty badly, had to replace em

That's why we were given EYES, to look both ways and avoid incoming projectile shortbuses.

Street18
10-30-2006, 02:25 AM
That's why we were given EYES, to look both ways and avoid incoming projectile shortbuses.

i was in a hurry, plus i was TALKIN ON MY CELLPHONE!!!:grinyes::grinyes::grinyes:

ThatRoundHeadedKid
10-30-2006, 02:27 AM
Hit 110 in mom's Infiniti FX35 goin down I-95 with the aid of a downhill goin to DE to drop sister off at college

Hit 102 in Dad's 545i goin from atlantic city to home. Felt like I was only goin 60 MPH (In other words, that car still amazes me with its high-speed stability)

Both instances, everyone in the car was sleeping, and I only have my permit....yea, not exactly the smartest thing to do...but hell it was fun.

replicant_008
10-30-2006, 04:19 AM
Talking on your cellphone? Maybe Darwinism wasn't a mistake after all... survival of the fittest...

crayzayjay
10-30-2006, 04:26 AM
115mph in my Golf, wheels felt like they were about to fall off.
130mph in a 997. Very stable.

BrodyP
10-30-2006, 07:30 AM
132 in my old SRT-4 could have kept going but I was scared

beef_bourito
10-30-2006, 08:53 AM
no, i was half-way across the street, when this bus came speedin at me!, luckily for my air-jordans, i jumped all-tha way to the sidewalk without gettin hit, but my bike was run over, all four-wheels bent up pretty badly, had to replace em
all FOUR wheels? wtf kind of bike to you ride?

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 09:32 AM
Umm, someone needs to be banned, and it ain't me.

Remember, remember, 28th November.

you'll see what i mean when that day comes.

ghostrx7
10-30-2006, 09:54 AM
all four-wheels bent up pretty badly his bicycle with training wheels of coarse..... duh.....hahaha

Street18
10-30-2006, 02:01 PM
his bicycle with training wheels of coarse..... duh.....hahaha

finally someone understands

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 04:45 PM
using this page: http://www.stealth316.com/2-awd6.htm

which is from the link about gearboxes you posted earlier.

i found a formula, which related gear ratios to speeds. (on the aforementioned page)


Speed in gear (MPH) = [RPM x tire diameter in inches] / [final gear ratio x 336]

estimating your car has 19" wheels, and the tyre diameter is 23".

let's say you rev to 7,500rpm. and you say you can do 100mph in second. let's see...

7,500rpm x 23" = 172500.

final gear ratio for second is 6.908 for the 1991-1993 models.

6.908 x 336 = 2321.088

172500 / 2321.088 = 74.31mph.

oh dear, look at that; you've come up 25.69mph short of your claim.

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 04:58 PM
let's say, for example's sake, that you had a later gearbox (second with a 7.368 final ratio) tyres with a 25" diameter and revved to 8,000rpm.

you'd still only do 80.78mph.

with the above specs you'd need a 5.900 second final ratio to top 100mph.

00accord44
10-30-2006, 05:48 PM
On Topic:
127ish in 5MT 2000 Accord 4cyl
105 in 2002 Buick Rendezvous this weekend, that thing drives like a brick and I was scared shitless
115ish in 94 5MT 4cyl Accord

Off Topic:
Nov 28... god help us all

BP2K2Max
10-30-2006, 05:49 PM
what's november 28th?

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 05:50 PM
you'll see.

vinnym86
10-30-2006, 05:57 PM
what's november 28th?

big bad banstick.

00accord44
10-30-2006, 05:58 PM
Oh I almost forgot...

Calculatiowned

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 06:01 PM
Oh I almost forgot...

Calculatiowned

very nice.

XeVeNskyLiNE
10-30-2006, 06:20 PM
Very nice indeed.

And I'll be wearing my high heels and lipstick for Nov. 28th just incase anyone's interested.

ec437
10-30-2006, 06:23 PM
someone just got pwnt.

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 06:24 PM
someone just got pwnt.

that's what happens when you lie about your car around people who know what they're talking about.

00accord44
10-30-2006, 06:45 PM
Is anyone suprised at the abundance of wild claims and foundatiownedless arguments considering the source? This isn't the first time. Shit comes out of a bull's ass on a regular basis, don't be suprised when it stinks.

Very nice indeed.

And I'll be wearing my high heels and lipstick for Nov. 28th just incase anyone's interested.

:uhoh: A special gift for our british friend on his special day? :uhoh:

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 06:47 PM
i'm not surprised. he comes up with so much rubbish, and so often.

VR43000GT
10-30-2006, 07:34 PM
I have been 130 in my 3000gt and then slowed down because honestly it was enough at the time.

And I take noone's side on this but a VR4 can do 165 stock (though geared to go 202 if you reached redline in 6th gear).

Ralliart 3000gt
10-30-2006, 07:48 PM
using this page: http://www.stealth316.com/2-awd6.htm

which is from the link about gearboxes you posted earlier.

i found a formula, which related gear ratios to speeds. (on the aforementioned page)


Speed in gear (MPH) = [RPM x tire diameter in inches] / [final gear ratio x 336]

estimating your car has 19" wheels, and the tyre diameter is 23".

let's say you rev to 7,500rpm. and you say you can do 100mph in second. let's see...

7,500rpm x 23" = 172500.

final gear ratio for second is 6.908 for the 1991-1993 models.

6.908 x 336 = 2321.088

172500 / 2321.088 = 74.31mph.

oh dear, look at that; you've come up 25.69mph short of your claim.

Still think the getrag 6 speed which I have in my car and all second gen 3000gt's up doesn't exhist??? still think that the car in the mag isn't mine??? WTF does 19" Wheels have to do with anything??? you do know that gear ratio's can be changed right??? LOL at you, and once I get a vid of my car I will own all.............

skibum1111
10-30-2006, 07:50 PM
Ok 202 in 6th just isn't going to happen unless you have some crazy mods and insane power. 6th gear is mostly a cruising gear. I get more speed out of 5th than 6th with the camaro. 6th is drag limited to around 135, 5th goes waaaay faster. And we are not doubting the top speed, but what started this was the claim of 100mph in 2nd gear.

beef_bourito
10-30-2006, 07:54 PM
then get a video of your car, you've got a digital camera don't you?

Igovert500
10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
Some quotes from a friend of mine thats 3kgt expert.

"and if they race gas for 20psi- they are on fucking crack, vr4 stock runs easily on 24"


I now know alot more about the subject than I cared for, but I just like the fact that a girl knows more about your car than you do.

I wont get into the whole Ralliart issue, because frankly I don't care. However, right there, your 'expert' sounds like the one on crack. vr4s most certainly do not run 24psi stock. Tire pressure maybe, but I can guarentee multiple things will happen WAYYY before you get to 24psi stock.

Even on 94 octane (the highest pump gas I can find around here) your knocking at 15psi and hte ecu is pulling timing like crazy as you destroy your internals. Your injectors will be WAY WAY WAY over 100% and failing miserably at providing anywhere near adequate amounts of fuel. Stock fuel pump wont keep up much longer, even if you had swapped out the injectors. The stock td04-9b turbos can barely hold 10psi to redline. So even if you had the fuel mods to keep up, they would be doing nothing more but blowing a HELL OF ALOT of hot air. Your stock y-pipe will be blown completely off your throttle body at ~15psi, hitting the bottom of your hood with a nice loud thud, and stalling the car. Probably saving you from grenading your engine.

With upgraded injectors, fuel pump, turbos, and a few other supporting mods, you could run 24psi, but certainly not on pump fuel without getting knock counts in the teens at the bare minimum. So I have no idea who your 3000gt 'expert' is, but I certainly wouldn't want her within 200 yards of my vr4. Because NO vr4/rt-tt is doing 24psi stock or on pump gas and making it more than 200 yards before a rebuild.

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 07:59 PM
Still think the getrag 6 speed which I have in my car and all second gen 3000gt's up doesn't exhist??? still think that the car in the mag isn't mine??? WTF does 19" Wheels have to do with anything??? you do know that gear ratio's can be changed right??? LOL at you, and once I get a vid of my car I will own all.............

their website doesn't list ex-production manufacturer-specific gearboxes, so i was wrong and wasn't aware of them supplying a gearbox for mitsubishi to use in the 3000GT. stop trying to draw attention away from the facts and figures.

i know ratios can be changed, i have helped friends change a number of gearbox parts. so what ratios do you have, and what's you rev limiter's max?

if you knew anything about gearing and ratios, you'd know that wheel/tyre size, or more accurately, rolling circumfrence has a lot to do with gearing. the tyre surface is the final gearing, larger wheels give higher top speed and lower acceleration, and vise-versa. what the fuck do they have to do with anything? a lot, actually.

why don't you get a dyno run video'd, and show us the chassis data plates, if it was made by ralliart it would say, and the article says the car featured was made by Steve Millen, not ralliart.

so for a final answer, no. i don't think the car in the mag is yours. i don't think your car can do 0-60 in 4.1 seconds. i don't think it can reach the claimed 196mph. i don't think it's making 530bhp. and i certainly don't think your car can do 100mph in second.

i'm waiting for you to prove me wrong. i can't see it happening though.

Igovert500
10-30-2006, 08:01 PM
Ok 202 in 6th just isn't going to happen unless you have some crazy mods and insane power. 6th gear is mostly a cruising gear. I get more speed out of 5th than 6th with the camaro. 6th is drag limited to around 135, 5th goes waaaay faster. And we are not doubting the top speed, but what started this was the claim of 100mph in 2nd gear.


The 6spd car is geared for more actually. Somewhere in the 220-235 range I believe. Granted nobody is driving up there that I know of, because frankly there might only be a couple in the world with power capable of hitting those speeds. Stock the power no longer overcomes drag at 160mph. Also stock gearing, 100mph in 2nd gear isn't happening either....stock gearing.

2eyefishclaw
10-30-2006, 08:15 PM
ok here it is I have an 88 F-150 4x4 with a six inches of lift 33x15 super swampers 303cid 5 speed BW tranny W/ BW tranny case and I have driven that up to 90mph is 4 low and top speed is 208 mph does that top his bull shit or should I exagerate more

2eyefishclaw
10-30-2006, 08:15 PM
screw up I meant 302cid stupid typo

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 08:16 PM
it would take a hell of a lot to top the stuff this one comes up with.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-30-2006, 08:53 PM
if you knew anything about gearing and ratios, you'd know that wheel/tyre size, or more accurately, rolling circumfrence has a lot to do with gearing. the tyre surface is the final gearing, larger wheels give higher top speed and lower acceleration, and vise-versa. what the fuck do they have to do with anything? a lot, actually.


Um I have had 17 18 and 19" rims, Its the size of the rims that increase and as it does, the lower the profile tire usually. So overall they are the same size wheels....................... Well on public roads anyway.

2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 08:57 PM
the wheel size doesn't matter, the tyre size does. it's the rolling circumfrence that you use in the calculations. and unless your tyres have had the same rolling circumfrence then there's a difference in the gearing.

so, what gears do you have, what's the final drive and what's the engine's maximum rpm?

Street18
10-30-2006, 09:14 PM
big bad banstick.

dnt worry ppl, i'll still be around :grinyes:

Jimster
10-30-2006, 09:16 PM
Some quotes from a friend of mine thats 3kgt expert.

"that statement is fucking impossible"
"2nd gear on a 6 speed barley hits 73 @ 7000"
"and if they race gas for 20psi- they are on fucking crack, vr4 stock runs easily on 24"
"and if the car is a 6spd and does over 100 in 2nd, its top speed would be in excess of 300MPH"
" there were many design changes besides just an addition of an extra gear or two. the housings are tottaly different, as are the tcases, as are many other integral components,the W5MG1 is a 5 Spd AWD. W6MG1 is the 6SPD AWD, Both made by Getrag in Germany."
"there are actually 3 different versions of the W5MG1, 91 technically has the worst of them, 92 being about middle...and LATE 92 and 93 having the stronger W5MG1."
"fucking hilarious, stillen is umm in the US.. and usually doesnt mess with the 3kgt.. usually it is the 300zx's. 4 sec 0-60mph? Stock is 4.1"
"and if it lags til 4K-- something is def really fucking wrong"


I now know alot more about the subject than I cared for, but I just like the fact that a girl knows more about your car than you do.


One flaw in that: Steve Millen does a lot of work in New Zealand, though not as far as I am aware with Mitsubishis and cannot recall him ever driving one in the Targa Tasmania. As far as I'm aware , Millens work was only ever performed on 25 Primeras and around-about 100 Maximas that came off the Assembly line at Nissans Wiri (South Auckland) plant, though he's probably tuned a few private customer cars as well...

replicant_008
10-30-2006, 11:06 PM
Steve has done some work with Toyota - he did a truck for The Race to the Sky but didn't turn up last year (I think it's based on Baja racer). And his workshop was based in California where he lives.

He did some 300ZX's a few years ago too... the Nissan Maximas were licenced to use the Stillen name and he did work on the prototype car but the assembly was outsourced to a crowd in Auckland after they were completed on the CKD assembly line which is long gone...

Is it me or this thread got a little monotonous... personally all this CAPITAL LETTERS YELLING is getting a bit tedious, doncha think?

Dyno247365
10-31-2006, 12:19 AM
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

what was the question? 3kgt, just post your ratios already, I'm trying to learn, not get BSed by everyone. when false information flies around too much, everyone in the conversation loses credibility, that's why most people are staying out of this. So truthfully I want to see this come to an end because the suspense is frickin killing me.

I just hit 230 today

in GT4 lol

fredjacksonsan
10-31-2006, 07:42 AM
... but what started this was the claim of 100mph in 2nd gear.
Last time I went 100 in 2nd gear it was in my brother's 1971 Chrysler Newport. Of course it's got a 3 speed transmission and 3.55 rear end. Shifts into 3rd at about 120. :iceslolan And chirps the tires. :bigthumb:

GForce957
10-31-2006, 03:12 PM
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

what was the question? 3kgt, just post your ratios already, I'm trying to learn, not get BSed by everyone. when false information flies around too much, everyone in the conversation loses credibility, that's why most people are staying out of this. So truthfully I want to see this come to an end because the suspense is frickin killing me.

I just hit 230 today

in GT4 lol

Bah, I've gone over 300 with that Cadillac Cien.


Real life- my Saturn is gov to 110

Toksin
10-31-2006, 03:20 PM
Manoah - are you sure you're not expressing your speed in kph, instead of mph? That might clear up some confusion.

MonsterBengt
10-31-2006, 05:10 PM
I did reach the top speed in my Ford, though i can't temember it.

Fastest i've gone otherwise is either in a Saab 9-3 Viggen 2.3T or a Volvo 760 2.8. both around 120-125mph.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 08:02 PM
Manoah - are you sure you're not expressing your speed in kph, instead of mph? That might clear up some confusion.

This is my speedo

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2122000-2122999/2122764_68_full.jpg

If you are ever in New Plymouth, Hit me up for a blast...................

2.2 Straight six
10-31-2006, 08:04 PM
you ever going to tell us your gear ratios and final drive?

or are you going to give up and admit that you've just been lying?

Moppie
10-31-2006, 08:17 PM
This is my speedo



Ok, heres some serious questions:
Can you tell us some detailed history of the car?
Who prepared it for the Targa Tasmania?
How far did they get in the preparation?
Was it ever raced?
What condition was it in when you got it?
How did you get hold of it?
Why is it now a road legal car and not a race car?
What other prep was done to it?
Is it a NZ new car or a Jap import?
Where did you do 290kph on NZ roads?


The idea of 500+hp GTO is not all that unusual, nor is the idea of such a car being prepared for a Targa event.
The idea that an ex-race car is now a road legal car is not all that unusual either.
The idea that some guy on an internet forum living in New Plymouth happens to own such a car is possible, but getting to be unlikely.
But, a few details would clear it up. This wouldn't be the first such situation Iv seen that turned out to be quite real.

2.2 Straight six
10-31-2006, 08:18 PM
The idea that an ex-race car is now a road legal car is not all that unusual either.

it doesn't have the usual parts of a race car. (roll cage, race seats, harnesses etc..)

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 08:23 PM
Lying??? so far you have been proven wrong, First with the gear box, Next its going to be the mag which will then prove my cars ability to reach 280kph, the only thing that is questionalble so far is the top speed in second gear from a launch...............

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 08:25 PM
I've actually had an argument at 3si Regarding my car being Ralliart spec or not. I will post a link to the thread which will hopfully help clear some things up..................

Moppie
10-31-2006, 08:32 PM
it doesn't have the usual parts of a race car. (roll cage, race seats, harnesses etc..)


Iv been in a Pulsar GTiR that had been a Group N rally car in Japan.
I only knew this because the person who was driving it had bought it into the country in its full rally spec. Then removed the cage, Halda, seats, suspension etc, and replaced them standard bits from another wrecked GTiR.
I know of Group N and Group A WRXs and EVOs given the same treatment, and sold to unsuspecting buyers here in NZ, lots of Type R Civics and Integras have come in the same way, and be sold on as standard road cars.

Moppie
10-31-2006, 08:33 PM
I've actually had an argument at 3si Regarding my car being Ralliart spec or not. I will post a link to the thread which will hopfully help clear some things up..................


If you can answer my very simple question easily and quickly, I will believe you.
Ignore them, and give in-direct and vague answers and the whole story starts to smell like bull shit.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 09:07 PM
Ok, heres some serious questions:
Can you tell us some detailed history of the car?

Being second owner, The only history I have is really the mag, and the Info that Ralliart NZ have on it the original owner was Petter lawn.............

Who prepared it for the Targa Tasmania?

Rod Millin who was Contracted by Ralliart NZ to prepare the car

How far did they get in the preparation?



Was it ever raced?


What condition was it in when you got it?

Very good condition, car had aprox 94,000km and looked new......
car had a 97 face lift since mag, and a tune up by Ralliart NZ in 99 No Momo Stearing wheel but car had New Alpine subs head unit etc.............

Looked over car and it had all the bits that it did in the mag including Porsche fuel pump, Ferrari F40 Brembo's (although the disks were Ferrari they were not the F40 model that they had in 95), Car had the Twin plate, 6speed conversion, HKS Piggy backs in glove compartment as it did in the mag, susspension units, Exhaust had been replaced with Borla which now has cats, stock Leather seats had been put back in and looked very new, car still had the old Valintine that it did in the mag, and also mags, Paint etc is also the same, you can see where they had done the conversion from the 95 face lift also ....................

How did you get hold of it?

Found on website which advertised a 395kw Mitsubishi GTO at a car sales yard in Greenslane Auckland

Why is it now a road legal car and not a race car?


What other prep was done to it?

I have replace/Updated the old HKS SSQ, samco joins and reconditioned the Twin Plate, have also added 18" mags off my old GTO and added Momo gear to the mod list. replaced Ferrari disks with more affordable APC sloted disks and Ferrari F40 pads with EBC reds


Is it a NZ new car or a Jap import?

Car is not a jap import and is classed as a 3000gt not a GTO

Where did you do 290kph on NZ roads?

I have done 280Kph down the Airport strait which leads to the New Plymouth Airport


The idea of 500+hp GTO is not all that unusual, nor is the idea of such a car being prepared for a Targa event.
The idea that an ex-race car is now a road legal car is not all that unusual either.
The idea that some guy on an internet forum living in New Plymouth happens to own such a car is possible, but getting to be unlikely.
But, a few details would clear it up. This wouldn't be the first such situation Iv seen that turned out to be quite real.

Links to 3SI: http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=342271&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Ralliart

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 09:16 PM
^^ WTF that aint the page, I'll find the email from Ralliart NZ.............. another link: http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=343990&page=1

00accord44
10-31-2006, 09:18 PM
I would have been 8-9 when this car was being built, No I don't have photo's of them working on it and no I didn't know what a 3000gt/GTO was back then.

Damn... how old are you?

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 09:29 PM
20, car was built/moded in 95. This is the page I've been looking for and where I almost get flamed to death and proven wrong on some fact http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=343072&page=1&pp=10.....................

2.2 Straight six
10-31-2006, 09:36 PM
why don't you show us the chassis data plates and title, if it was built by ralliart it will say.

after that, you can get a video'd dyno run to prove the claimed 530bhp.

Iv been in a Pulsar GTiR that had been a Group N rally car in Japan.
I only knew this because the person who was driving it had bought it into the country in its full rally spec. Then removed the cage, Halda, seats, suspension etc, and replaced them standard bits from another wrecked GTiR.
I know of Group N and Group A WRXs and EVOs given the same treatment, and sold to unsuspecting buyers here in NZ, lots of Type R Civics and Integras have come in the same way, and be sold on as standard road cars.

i've seen that done too. but i just don't believe that this guy's done it. there's nothing to suggest that. and for racing, what use is gearing that allows 100mph in second? like Fred, the only car i've ever been in that could do 100 in second was a 3-speed dragster.

Being second owner, The only history I have is really the mag, and the Info that Ralliart NZ have on it the original owner was Petter lawn.............

so, you bought it from a car lot? you mean to say a guy sold an ex-race car that made 530bhp to a car lot? maybe it's very different in NZ, but tuned cars aren't bought by car lots here.

and if you did, they had no info on the car? if you bought a 530bhp race car to sell on, you'd find out everything about it you could. you'd want to know all that so you could sell it for a lot. cars with race history sell for lots, you want buyers to know all about the car to entise them into paying your [high] asking price.

how much did you pay for it?

Who prepared it for the Targa Tasmania?

Rod Millin who was Contracted by Ralliart NZ to prepare the car

article says Steve Millen built it. strange...

How did you get hold of it?

Found on website which advertised a 395kw Mitsubishi GTO at a car sales yard in Greenslane Auckland

refer to earlier part of post.

find us some actual proof. you can sit an talk all day. talking doesn't constitue to hard facts.

00accord44
10-31-2006, 09:36 PM
Gotta be a member to read the link mang

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 09:40 PM
It is free to register..................

blazee
10-31-2006, 09:43 PM
Gotta be a member to read the link mang
The first link works, Found an interesting quote.... when someone thought that it was rod millen This was the reply

Ron McMillin not Rod Millin......

Ralliart is the performance arm of Mitsubishi, of course they know what a Mitsubishi GTO/3000gt is........

But hey this discusion has already been finalised, and I'm happy to stick to the fact that my car is a Ralliart moded 3000gt at least......

So which is it, Steve Millen, Rod Millen, or Ron Mcmillin?

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 09:44 PM
My car was on the show room floor mate, and it was the oldest (91) car there, they generally sold, 2000+ - New cars all of high quality and with a price tag that went from 50,000NZ second hand - 200,000NZ..............

Moppie
10-31-2006, 09:45 PM
i've seen that done too. but i just don't believe that this guy's done it. there's nothing to suggest that. and for racing, what use is gearing that allows 100mph in second? like Fred, the only car i've ever been in that could do 100 in second was a 3-speed dragster.



Iv driven a Mk1 escort with a Quaif box in it that would run to 100mph in 2nd gear. A Lotus esprit V8 will run to 60mph in 1st, and close to 100 in second. When you have the power, then its not that uncommon.


so, you bought it from a car lot? you mean to say a guy sold an ex-race car that made 530bhp to a car lot? maybe it's very different in NZ, but tuned cars aren't bought by car lots here.


Its very VERY different here.
Lots of dealers that don't know shit about cars, lots of shady fly by nighters, lots of guys buying and selling cars they often know very little about. There is regulation here, but no requirements to follow it.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 09:46 PM
The first link works, Found an interesting quote.... when someone thought that it was rod millen This was the reply

Meh I'll have another look at the mag Rod, Ron, Millen, Mcmillen bloody easy to confuse names and give the wrong impression................

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 09:53 PM
The car was being sold on behalf of Peter Lawn, His name is in the mag, he is the guy who sold me this car through a dealer, he had also given me the option to buy the 3000gt, original license plates for extra cost in which I refused.

Moppie
10-31-2006, 10:01 PM
Ok, easy to fix this.

I rang Ralliart NZ, and talked to Ron McMillin. The guy who built the car.
Its very, VERY real.
It was never turned into a race car because it weighs around 1600kgs, and boiled the brake fluid after only 10 laps of Pukekohe (local track). So there was never a cage etc fitted to it.
It did do a Canon ball run in northern Australia, but was stolen from a shipping container after failing to complete the event, and driven through a fence before being recovered, hence the face lifted body kit thats been fitted, after it had been completely stipped and turned into its current form.
It was originally the second GTO sold new in NZ, so had a long history with Mitsubishi Ralliart, starting with simple mods, before its huge rebuild.
Ron remembered it was making 450hp when he last saw it, down from the 530 it originally made.


Ralliart 3000gt I suggest you ring them (numbers in the book) and ask them about the car with a note pad in hand.
It's been driven around Puke' by Own Evens, and turned in 1'10sec times with road tyres on. He remembers an amazing number of details about the car, and all of its history.

2.2 Straight six
10-31-2006, 10:06 PM
Iv driven a Mk1 escort with a Quaif box in it that would run to 100mph in 2nd gear. A Lotus esprit V8 will run to 60mph in 1st, and close to 100 in second. When you have the power, then its not that uncommon.

i've seen it happen, i have friends in the tuning industry who've told me about it. they don't use it in their cars because they have no need to do 200 in second. they'd have use shorter ratios and get better acceleration. of course, that is case-dependant.

i'm not doubting you, but out of curiousity, what engine did the escort have, what power was it making and how many gears did the 'box have?

my friend's brother has a tuning company, and he put a stroked 2.2-litre Cosworth YBT engine in a mk.2 for a guy to compete in rallying or something. the 872kg kerb weight and 440bhp contributed to a mental mk.2...

2.2 Straight six
10-31-2006, 10:09 PM
Ok, easy to fix this.

I rang Ralliart NZ, and talked to Ron McMillin. The guy who built the car.
Its very, VERY real.
It was never turned into a race car because it weighs around 1600kgs, and boiled the brake fluid after only 10 laps of Pukekohe (local track). So there was never a cage etc fitted to it.
It did do a Canon ball run in northern Australia, but was stolen from a shipping container after failing to complete the event, and driven through a fence before being recovered, hence the face lifted body kit thats been fitted, after it had been completely stipped and turned into its current form.
It was originally the second GTO sold new in NZ, so had a long history with Mitsubishi Ralliart, starting with simple mods, before its huge rebuild.
Ron remembered it was making 450hp when he last saw it, down from the 530 it originally made.


Ralliart 3000gt I suggest you ring them (numbers in the book) and ask them about the car with a note pad in hand.
It's been driven around Puke' by Own Evens, and turned in 1'10sec times with road tyres on. He remembers an amazing number of details about the car, and all of its history.

No offence, Moppie.

i don't doubt the existence of a/the ralliart tuned 3000GT in question. i'm sure it does exist. mostly from the article about it.

what i do doubt is that ralliart3000gt owns that can.

Moppie
10-31-2006, 10:11 PM
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i'm not doubting you, but out of curiousity, what engine did the escort have, what power was it making and how many gears did the 'box have?



It had the old 1600 kent cross flow in it. The box was of course an old Anglia 4sp :)
With 190hp and about 750kg dry weight, it was also a pretty mental Eskie.


Oh, and by the way, with regards to Ralliart 3000gt's 3000GT, your WRONG! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's very much the same car, Ron McMillin described it exactly has Ralliart 3000gt has. He even mentioned that it was sold on a Yard in Greenlane.
Its kind of scary that a 20 year old is driving such a powerful car, but its very real.

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 10:31 PM
OMG mate, I just called him, I know every thing, yea, you're bloody awsome mate, awsome!!!!! I owe you a few beers................

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 10:34 PM
and 2.2 mate I would just like to say OWNED lol, no hard feelings, and moppie FYI I was 18 when I got that car lol......

Moppie
10-31-2006, 10:38 PM
OMG mate, I just called him, I know every thing, yea, you're bloody awsome mate, awsome!!!!! I owe you a few beers................

No worries, Iv heard stranger tales about cars people have owned :)
Let me drive it, and we can forego the beers :cool:

Ralliart 3000gt
10-31-2006, 10:43 PM
lol Hmmm I've never let any person drive my car ever!!! But let me get her tuned by Ron and sorted out, and then I will let you drive her, but only if you can prove that you have driven a 530 hp car before lol FYI car is still making 520hp.................

beef_bourito
10-31-2006, 11:17 PM
I call BS

2.2 Straight six
10-31-2006, 11:53 PM
i'll believe it if i talk to the guy and he confirms it.

i suppose he can link VIN numbers too, can he?

if it turns out that i'm wrong, i'll appologise. until then, i stand by what i've said.

Toksin
11-01-2006, 12:59 AM
This is my speedo

[img]http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2122000-2122999/2122764_68_full.jpg[img]

If you are ever in New Plymouth, Hit me up for a blast...................


Good chance I'll be up there at New Years, I'll be holding you to that :p

KustmAce
11-01-2006, 10:29 AM
Just for the sake of those just tuning in...

Are we arguing about whether or not his car actually makes 530hp?

Or that is can go xxx mph?

And finally, why is this going on 6 pages long?

00accord44
11-01-2006, 12:37 PM
Just for the sake of those just tuning in...

Are we arguing about whether or not his car actually makes 530hp?


Yes kinda (arguing over the fact that he owns such a powerful car)

Or that is can go xxx mph?


Yes also (100 mph in 2nd gear)

And finally, why is this going on 6 pages long?

:dunno:

KustmAce
11-01-2006, 01:56 PM
Yes kinda (arguing over the fact that he owns such a powerful car)



Yes also (100 mph in 2nd gear)



:dunno:

Well in that case, shouldnt the easy fix be...

Dyno sheet + video?

Case closed...

00accord44
11-01-2006, 02:18 PM
Yeah. 2.2's been asking for picture/video evidence of some sort but we haven't gotten any. Moppie seems to have found the real story from the source (Ralliart company ownership) so I for one believe the kid, but I'd never let him represent me in a case. Worse self defense exhibition ever :shakehead

2.2 Straight six
11-01-2006, 02:23 PM
i've asked what gear ratios and final drive he has. he's avoided it and won't answer. that leads me to believe that his car can't do 100mph in second.

i don't doubt the existence of the car built for Targa Tasmania, and all that. i doubt that the car Ralliart owns is that one.

and yes, i've said i'll believe it when i see a video'd dyno run.

Ralliart 3000gt
11-01-2006, 03:50 PM
I think you guys are missing the point, This thread is titled Max speed in your car. 280kph/170+mph is the max speed I have been in my car. That was when I was running Race gas, down a longish strait, I now run on pump 95 which is crap. But I can still do a daily max speed of 250kph down there, that’s on pump, low boost 15psi and on road tires and your typical NZ road surface. Then it lead to I don’t believe that you can do those speeds, the car in the mag isn’t yours, the 6 speed getrag doesn’t exist, now you wan’t me to pay for a dyno, tape it with a digi cam I don’t own and provide evidence on the net to any law enforcement who wishes to arrest me for Illegal street racing……. My car has just had a clutch put in it. Soooooooooooooo I want it to last this time so I’ll ride it in………. Don’t believe me, I don’t care, I never said I knew everything about my car, and no, I don’t know the gear ratio’s. But this car is mine, yes its still very fast and yes it featured in the mag………..

Toksin
11-01-2006, 03:54 PM
What Moppie said about dealers selling cars that they have no idea is correct though. My brother in law's company sold an R34 GT-R badged as an M Spec NUR. Turns out it wasn't a NUR Spec, BUT, it did have a very very nice 600HP+ Trial-built engine in it.

It subsequently ended up in NZ Performance Car magazine.

Meh, if I go up to New Plymouth for new years I'll check the car out and clear up the issue :p

Ralliart 3000gt
11-01-2006, 03:58 PM
What Moppie said about dealers selling cars that they have no idea is correct though. My brother in law's company sold an R34 GT-R badged as an M Spec NUR. Turns out it wasn't a NUR Spec, BUT, it did have a very very nice 600HP+ Trial-built engine in it.

It subsequently ended up in NZ Performance Car magazine.

Meh, if I go up to New Plymouth for new years I'll check the car out and clear up the issue :p

Sweet, I hope to have my car tuned by then, even if its not, I'd at least be able to give you the 250kph run on pump 95.

PS: when the **** are we gonna get 98 down here???

Toksin
11-01-2006, 05:05 PM
When the Naki makes it's way into the 20th century is when :p

Steel
11-01-2006, 05:15 PM
85 mph. In my junky civic going downhill.

130+ in my rex (R.I.P.)

vinnym86
11-01-2006, 05:25 PM
what year is ur civic?

mine's a '93, 4-cyl, so i was really surprised when i hit the speeds that i did. i think fresh out my engine only put out like 80 some hp. I was going straight and downhill for a good 7 to 8 miles (down mountains in the Poconos in Penn.)

beef_bourito
11-01-2006, 06:31 PM
my sis has a '95 civic cx (doesn't drive it now because someone hit it and bent the frame so it's a write off) anyways, it hits 100mph pretty easily. you'd be surprised what they can do

Dyno247365
11-01-2006, 06:48 PM
my sis has a '95 civic cx (doesn't drive it now because someone hit it and bent the frame so it's a write off) anyways, it hits 100mph pretty easily. you'd be surprised what they can do

They're so frickin light, I have driven faster in my crx then my 240, true story. Why? My guess is because it's lighter.

beef_bourito
11-01-2006, 06:52 PM
They're so frickin light, I have driven faster in my crx then my 240, true story. Why? My guess is because it's lighter.
hell, i've driven my sister's civic with about 80hp (maybe 87hp?) faster than alot of cars i've driven. mind you i haven't driven many cars, but still it's not as slow as many people think.

skibum1111
11-01-2006, 07:00 PM
Civic's are a fairly light car, thats why some people prefer to mod the hell out of them. For about $20k in the us, plus the cost of the car, you can build one fast 1/4 mile car in a short amount of time due to the amount of parts that are available. Personally, the thought of going that fast in a 2200lb car is frightening.

Dyno247365
11-01-2006, 07:02 PM
hell, i've driven my sister's civic with about 80hp (maybe 87hp?) faster than alot of cars i've driven. mind you i haven't driven many cars, but still it's not as slow as many people think.

It has a great power to weight ratio, but it's so frickin small. It was a good first car, got me my first kiss too. :naughty:

Steel
11-01-2006, 07:04 PM
mines a 93 as well. I dont doubt it can break 85 mph, but then it really starts to blow oil out the back and it shakes funny and generally doesnt like it. The rex ate up the high speeds though. God i miss that car.

beef_bourito
11-01-2006, 07:38 PM
my '92 accord (first car) goes decently quickly, it's heavier than the civic so it's better at high speeds but not so much on acceleration. i don't push her though because i think the clutch is a little weak and second gear is weak. it tops out in third gear at 150kph (about 95mph) and then i usually shut it down, i don't really want to risk a blown engine because the seals around my oil pan are going, hasn't started leaking yet but they'll need to be replaced soon.

BleedDodge
11-01-2006, 10:31 PM
i don't really want to risk a blown engine because the seals around my oil pan are going, hasn't started leaking yet but they'll need to be replaced soon.
Yeah whatever.

beef_bourito
11-01-2006, 10:47 PM
are you saying it can't go faster? it can probably hit 115 if i wanted to, that's about it, i'm not claiming that my car's fast, just saying i don't want to see where the top speed is because i don't want to break it, it isn't a new car, it's got about 230,000 km's on it and it's got to last me through university.

bmwgolfguy
11-01-2006, 10:56 PM
130 mph in a speed limited bimmer 01 330i

vinnym86
11-01-2006, 11:21 PM
mhmm, the civic started shaking crazy after 95mph or so.

my friend's done 115 in a '00 accord 6-cyl. with me. stupid of him, it was a state highway that troopers usually infest, but it was his car, and i was too drunk to care. infact i believe i was laughing uncontrollably.

2.2 Straight six
11-01-2006, 11:50 PM
my friend and i did almost 140 in a stock lightning at millbrook. it was a little scary.

they've been recorded at 147, but we couldn't get any more out of it.

Street18
11-02-2006, 12:20 AM
'97 Lumina 285,000 miles on it

tha most i remember goin up to was 90pmh back from the airport but i did only to 90mph cuz there is ALWAYS two motorcycle cops on both sides of the highway behind some bushes.....n when i mean ALWAYS, i mean FUCKIN ALWAYS...( Sorry for tha language ) n they dnt take any sh** from u, it dnt matter if u was doin 66 in da 65 u still get a ticket...cuz my friend got a ticket there for 67 in tha 65 n he asked the officer for warnin n tha officer said even if u did 66 we still give u tha ticket...i mean they had this on tha news, and in a 1 hour span....they caught like 24 somthin ppl...OMG this city sucks when it comes to traffic offenses

k im done! :-)

Street18
11-02-2006, 12:22 AM
^ oops sorry i just remember this isnt tha stress release forum....i already got a warnin for dat once...sorry! :-(

beef_bourito
11-02-2006, 12:24 AM
wow, that's crazy, where i live they are required to allow you to do 5km/hr over so that if your speedometer is a little off and little things like that you won't get a ticket

Street18
11-02-2006, 12:29 AM
wow, that's crazy, where i live they are required to allow you to do 5km/hr over so that if your speedometer is a little off and little things like that you won't get a ticket


not here i dnt think they do :nono:

but i might just have to check into that

2.2 Straight six
11-02-2006, 12:57 AM
wow, that's crazy, where i live they are required to allow you to do 5km/hr over so that if your speedometer is a little off and little things like that you won't get a ticket

here it's 10%. on the basis of many speedos being 10% out.

so you can get away with 77 in a 70 zone.

Dyno247365
11-02-2006, 03:59 AM
Street18, you're a new member. You better tone it down for the first...300 posts.

Why is it scarier to go faster in a truck?

beef_bourito
11-02-2006, 07:02 AM
here it's 10%. on the basis of many speedos being 10% out.

so you can get away with 77 in a 70 zone.
i said they're obligated to give us that, they give us way more. everyone does 10km/hr over he speed limit, 15 over in 80's, 20 or 30 over in 90's and100 zones, and nobody gets pulled over

2.2 Straight six
11-02-2006, 03:47 PM
Why is it scarier to go faster in a truck?

because they have the aerodynamics of a loaf of bread.

fredjacksonsan
11-02-2006, 03:49 PM
because they have the aerodynamics of a loaf of bread.

Or a brick.

Take the example of the handling of a lifted 4x4 vs an F1 car. Question answered.

2.2 Straight six
11-02-2006, 03:50 PM
yeah, my friend has a lifted 4x4 Hilux with a 5.9 in it. the handling is atrocious.

vinnym86
11-02-2006, 04:29 PM
what's interesting is aerodynamics on a truck are better when the gate is up then down. It makes perfect sense after you know that air traveling over the truck starts a convection flow inside the truck bed. This flow of "trapped" air acts as a smooth roofline down to the end of the truck. Opening the gate will release the trapped air and create more handling problems.
So if you see someone with their gate open with nothing in their bed, tell 'em to shut it.

drunken monkey
11-02-2006, 04:33 PM
here it's 10%. on the basis of many speedos being 10% out.

so you can get away with 77 in a 70 zone.

i always thought it was something like 10% + 4mph or it might've been 10% +3 mph AND that was based on margin of error on equipement on boths sides.
i.e errors in the calibration of radar gun AND errors in the calibration of speedometers.

hmm, perhaps that's where the 10% in what I was told comes from.



.....and once again, a car related thread is started in possibly the wrong forum.
moving.

BP2K2Max
11-02-2006, 05:14 PM
one of the motorcycle forums i go to has a moderator who's also a cop. he says that he's told to give a buffer of 10 mph in any zone under 55mph and a 12-15 mph buffer for 55 + zones. but that's only relevant here in the states.

crayzayjay
11-02-2006, 07:27 PM
i always thought it was something like 10% + 4mph or it might've been 10% +3 mph AND that was based on margin of error on equipement on boths sides.
i.e errors in the calibration of radar gun AND errors in the calibration of speedometers.

hmm, perhaps that's where the 10% in what I was told comes from.



.....and once again, a car related thread is started in possibly the wrong forum.
moving.
I've also heard that 10% + 3mph is safe. 1mph above that and you're flashed. Who knows...

00accord44
11-02-2006, 07:27 PM
one of the motorcycle forums i go to has a moderator who's also a cop. he says that he's told to give a buffer of 10 mph in any zone under 55mph and a 12-15 mph buffer for 55 + zones. but that's only relevant here in the states.


It really depends on the cop and how he's feeling that day. Maybe NY cops are told to give a buffer, but I got flagged by a cop n the burbs near chicago for 8 over, 53 in a 45. But that particular town is known for its petty police force

drunken monkey
11-02-2006, 07:36 PM
I've also heard that 10% + 3mph is safe. 1mph above that and you're flashed. Who knows...

one thing i do remember is that this was only applicable to mobile police units and their portable equipment. I also recall that one of the things you should ask for if you really are innocent or only just over the limit, is to request a calibration report on whatever it was that recorded your speed because of this, to better ascertain the margin of error in the readings.
This does probably mean that it doesn't apply to the big yellow boxes though.

on the subject of camera flashing.
on the way home on the A12 last week, I was having a bit of a giggle with a bmw driver and was going mayb e 60-65mph. No big deal on a regular dual carriageway with a 50mph limit.
Thing is, it was quite apparent that the other driver didn't know where the speed cameras were and at one instance, I saw the first flash of the camera as he went through the speed trap and I am positive that the second flash occured as I was in the speed trap.
Wonder if I'll hear anything from them about that one?

crayzayjay
11-02-2006, 07:49 PM
If you're only in one shot, you should be fine. Maybe it wasn't even loaded. Apparently 2/3 aren't. Fingers crossed for you mate.

drunken monkey
11-02-2006, 07:53 PM
well, thing is, they need two clear shots to work out the speed.
if the camera was legit and the images gets processed, they'd get one shot of a BMW 3 in one shot and magically, a Yaris in the second shot.....

daddy0_4
11-02-2006, 08:06 PM
63 Bonneville Convertible, 389, 4bbl, 4spd Auto. Speedo Maxed At 130, Pegged Speedo

beef_bourito
11-02-2006, 09:55 PM
update: i went 112 in my accord today on my way back from university.
got pissed because these people changed their plans, originally we were supposed to go to Hull (just across the river from my city, about 15 minutes away) where the drinking age is 18 (its 18 in 3 out of 10 canadian provinces) but instead they decided they'd go to somewhere in ottawa (my city) but i don't have a fake ID so i couldn't go. i wasted 30 minutes to university, 30 minutes back, an hour i spent waiting around not being able to get ahold of anyone, and a shitload of gas. i could have gone faster but there was a turn coming up. i suspect my car tops out at 120mph.

2.2 Straight six
11-03-2006, 04:39 AM
well, thing is, they need two clear shots to work out the speed.
if the camera was legit and the images gets processed, they'd get one shot of a BMW 3 in one shot and magically, a Yaris in the second shot.....

they'll see a picture with a yaris doing 65 and think the camera's broken...:p

jveik
11-03-2006, 09:39 AM
i suspect that there are a lot of stories like this one here in this thread...


i did about 350 mile an hour one time and then right afterward i went to this huge party and banged like 80 chicks that were NFL cheerleaders and then i drove off a flatbed towtruck and got airborne like the dukes of hazard and came crashing down and didnt even have a scratch!!!!

-translation... went 80 before car ran out of power, got drunk and probably hit on a bunch of fat chicks, then ran into the back of a flatbed truck as i left thier crappy apartment and totalled the car that was only worth 500 bucks anyways...

bjboertje
11-03-2006, 03:42 PM
haha
and about the ~80hp civic (was that the car?) at 2200lbs. my aspire was 63hp stock, but mine had issues so more like 55hp, and 2000lbs going 95 down a hill shaking like crazy.
btw, i was following another aspire :)

Igovert500
11-04-2006, 03:58 PM
i could have gone faster but there was a turn coming up. i suspect my car tops out at 120mph.

You have a 92? I had a 90 Accord EX Auto w/ I/H/E and topped it out at 128mph a few times. It is possible there may have been a slight downhill slope, but I don't recall. But I did it at least 2 or 3 times.

beef_bourito
11-04-2006, 04:18 PM
i've got big plans for it but no money lol. how long did yours last? or did you end up selling it? i plan on running mine until it goes, which im hoping won't be for another 5-6 years.

lamehonda
11-05-2006, 05:15 PM
118 in my old '87 accord auto down a steep hill. 112 on the flat.

99 in a '91 tercel in western Montana :). It would go absolutely no faster

84 in a '99 freightliner FL70 straight truck loaded at weight limit going downhill well beyond the 78 mph governor.

An indicated 134 in my old manual '99 accord figure it must have been about 127 cause that is where it was supposed to be governed.

And, 135 in '06 WRX wagon with much more to give.

samandiar
11-06-2006, 03:03 PM
My 99 Crown Vic could probably do 120 or so, the speedo goes to 135, but I don't think the 3.55s will let me do that. Fastest I've gone is 100 in it.

Igovert500
11-06-2006, 05:04 PM
i've got big plans for it but no money lol. how long did yours last? or did you end up selling it? i plan on running mine until it goes, which im hoping won't be for another 5-6 years.


Sold it, due to a bunch of small stuff being in need of fixing/replacement, upcoming maintainence, and then a rusted out fuel line cracked. All pretty easy overall to fix/replace, but I just didn't want to dump any more money into the car at that point. Motor is still great from what I know, needs new valve seals, but with 160k...that's to be expected.

GForce957
11-06-2006, 07:30 PM
Just went 145 in an RSX-S last night, Drag limited to around that and 150 it seemed after 2 runs.

Then followed that up with 165 in an 03 cobra vert, hit the gov with plenty left.

thadrawr
11-09-2006, 03:55 PM
95-97ish range in my 99 GMC Jimmy
100 in a 2005 malibu maxx but it had more
105 in a 97 buick centry

XR6TURBO
01-07-2007, 04:54 AM
2002 Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo - 278.9rwkw
Speedo says 260km/hr. Ive done 201km/hr b4 modifications
It has power since then but need to find a long enough stretch of road

midgetracing28
01-07-2007, 02:37 PM
95mph in my 94 ranger
110 in my f250
prolly 65 70 in my tbird (geared for a 1/5 mile dirt track)
around 60 on my blaster
and maybe 45 on the polaris trail boss

Millermagic
01-12-2007, 06:02 PM
I've had my 01 Taurus to 90.

GreyGoose006
01-12-2007, 07:05 PM
one of the motorcycle forums i go to has a moderator who's also a cop. he says that he's told to give a buffer of 10 mph in any zone under 55mph and a 12-15 mph buffer for 55 + zones. but that's only relevant here in the states.
theres a town nearby that the cops will give you a ticket for 1-2 over.
there were lots of people in my defensive driving class that had tickets for 2 over in madison Va. the guy running the class said he once had someone in for 1.5 over.
they all get thrown out once they go to court.

GreyGoose006
01-12-2007, 07:11 PM
2002 Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo
:eek2:

wyatt_earb
01-18-2007, 01:45 AM
167mph in a corvette, scared the shit outta me.

GreyGoose006
01-18-2007, 09:50 PM
well i'm not sure if i've posted this before but i've done around 90 or so in my caprice.
the speedometer stops at 85, so after that its a guess.

Tater049
03-03-2007, 08:10 PM
My 2005 E55 AMG- 155, Is electronically limited at 155
My Audi Q7- around 90, i dont beat on that car
My 1968 Camaro RS- 120, only has 3 gears, and i like to just cruise in it
My Dodge Ram 1500 SLT- 110 on the highway.

Jet Fetish
03-04-2007, 05:34 AM
149 mph/street s2000/ap2

Stefanel1
03-18-2007, 10:44 AM
With my own car : 220kmh (140mph) with a Bmw 530d and a Peugeot Coupé 406 hdi.
With a friend's car : 260kmh (160mph) with an Alfa 166 V6 Turbo and 250kmh with an M5 E60.

chance11
03-31-2007, 06:01 PM
130 with my civic :P

ansidious
04-04-2007, 08:03 PM
Dodge Stratus at ~105 mph

Mag00
04-09-2007, 03:12 PM
Dodge Stratus at ~105 mph

oh yeah, thats how I feel
My car's (95 Buick Park Ave) spedometer only goes up to 100mph.

but, I got the needle considerably past it, probably around 107mph... lol

Escort Elliott
10-14-2007, 07:16 AM
in my Escort my dad got 140mph........:disappoin its still too slow for me lol

when i hit the 150 i will be well happy

Chaos_Theory
10-21-2007, 11:35 AM
100 in a lumina

Polygon
10-21-2007, 12:06 PM
in my Escort my dad got 140mph........:disappoin its still too slow for me lol

when i hit the 150 i will be well happy

Bullshit.

Unless you have a Cosi Escort, which would run at least $300,000, you couldn't go that fast unless you had some serious mods. Stock they just don't have the aerodynamics or the right power to weight ratio to pull it off.

In fact, a mid 90s Mustang couldn't even break 140s stock. They had to cover the front openings with cardboard and take off the windshield wipers to get 141.

Anyhow, the fastest I've knowingly driven was 120 in my '94 Eagle Vision TSi it had a little more to go but a blown intake manifold gasket and a limiter kept it from going any faster. In my first GTC I wrapped the speedometer back around to 30MPH. The stock one goes to 125MPH so I don't know how fast I was going, I would guess close to 140MPH.

MetalHeadZaid
10-21-2007, 05:49 PM
hit speedcut (180kmh?) in my skyline destroying a galant VR4

beatboxn420
10-21-2007, 11:20 PM
ex car (ford expo) 100
current car (mustang v6) 120
moms car (volvo s60 T5) 165
dads car (toyota camery) 110
friends colbalt ss 140

ThatRoundHeadedKid
10-22-2007, 01:31 AM
update for me:

2005 E60 545i sport (dad's) 126mph
1994 W124 E320 Coupe (mine) Hit the limiter at 134 MPH.

porscheguy9999
10-22-2007, 07:35 PM
My 1998 BMW 328is I've done 132, with four people + luggage. I could do 150+ by myself though apparently.

Rajiv
10-28-2007, 09:15 PM
I've done ~120 in my 2003 Acura RSX-S. I think the limiter's at around 130 or so...

sureshhkumar
09-21-2008, 01:47 PM
I like to own ferrari Which is capable of attaining 200miles/hour speed in 6 secs.... It got great Horse power nearly 650HP...
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xeroinfinity
09-21-2008, 05:05 PM
Welcome to AF sureshhkumar.

Please look at the post dates before posting in outdated threads.
Over three months and its considered outdated.

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