2001 Jeep Cherokee Wiring Diagrams?


kb0nly
08-16-2006, 07:53 PM
Anyone know where i can find these online? I don't want to buy a complete service manual, just doing a GPS Navigation System install and i need to find the VSS and backup lights wiring.

BeZerK2112
08-16-2006, 07:58 PM
Check your local library. They usually carry car repair manual books.

kb0nly
08-16-2006, 08:05 PM
Not around here unfortunately, already checked. These small town libraries don't have the budget to carry stuff like that.

AlohaBra
08-17-2006, 12:50 AM
You use to be able to download the 2000 FSM, but it is gone.
I have one...what is the VSS, maybe I can look it up for you.

kb0nly
08-17-2006, 01:15 AM
The VSS is the Vehicle Speed Sensor, on most vehicles i have worked to install these on the signal is usually available to both the PCM and the BCM, its better to find a place to tap into it inside the vehicle so you don't have to worry about routing wires out through the firewall, etc. Just makes a cleaner install.

I also need to find the backup light circuit, more specifically the wire that supplies power to the backup lights in the rear, its usually available somewhere under the dash in the harness that supplies the rear of the vehicle on the drivers side.

If you have a service manual with diagrams and a scanner and you have the time to do it send over the scans and then i can assemble them into a .pdf file and make it a smaller single file that might also help others on here. Just let me know and i will give you an email address to contact me directly!

kb0nly
08-17-2006, 01:22 AM
For anyone wondering what i am working on here it's a Horizon Navigation NavMate system. I have the NavMate 2.0 installed in my Trans Sport and love it. I'm starting to install it in others vehicles who liked mine.. lol

I don't want to go out and buy a manual for every install, and so far this 2001 Jeep Cherokee is the only on that has stumped me on finding some diagrams/schematics for free.

The VSS signal gets used by the NavMate to calculate vehicle movement in the event of a GPS signal loss, and it also makes the system immediately usable rather than waiting for a GPS lock to navigate from. The backup light connection just tells the system quickly that your changing direction. It has a gyro's in it and it doesn't even need a GPS signal after the initial 3d lock and calibration. The company did a one year test, after calibration they removed the GPS antenna and drove an entire year without a GPS signal. Still worked dead perfect. I have had mine lose the GPS signal in cities with tall buildings or tunnels, etc, still shows my position on the screen perfectly.

AlohaBra
08-17-2006, 10:03 AM
Try this diagram:
http://www.lp2aenergy.com/PDF/

(download it)

kb0nly
08-17-2006, 10:16 AM
That helps some, but i don't see the VSS anywhere. There is a input and output speed sensor for transmission control on that diagram but not the VSS that feeds the computer and speedometer/odometer.

AlohaBra
08-17-2006, 10:23 AM
Your Brake Lite diagram has been uploaded.
Also the page with the VSS and a location chart.

kb0nly
08-17-2006, 10:56 AM
Got the files downloaded, i'll look through them, should be an ENORMOUS help!

Thank!!

:grinno:

kb0nly
08-17-2006, 11:47 AM
If i could trouble you for one more diagram?

In the VSS circuit it calls out diagram 8W-30-12, could you find that one for me?

I want to know more about the routing of that signal, it would appear its comes from the VSS sensor on the back end of the trans and then goes to the body harness at C107 or C113, AT or MT trans, and then follows the main harness to C2 on the PCM.

It would be nice to know for sure where its going though and i assume that diagram called for will show it in better detail.

Thanks!

AlohaBra
08-18-2006, 07:42 AM
You got it.

kb0nly
08-18-2006, 10:14 AM
Awesome! That diagram confirmed what i was thinking, the VSS signal is also supplied to the DRL, Daytime Running Lights module to indicate the vehicle is in motion and turn them on. It also confirms that it goes through connector C107 which is at the back top of the engine coming from the main harness across the back of the engine compartment.

One last question, i looked in the connector location info and couldn't find it, but maybe i just missed it, do you happen to know where the DRL module is located? I was thinking if its inside the vehicle that would be easier to route to then going out through the firewall to the engine compartment.

Thanks!!!

kb0nly
08-18-2006, 10:17 AM
Wait, nevermind, i found it. The DRL module is in the back corner of the engine compartment on the passenger side. I missed that in the connector location list the last time i checked.

Now on to the install, once i get it all done i will have to post up some pictures of the work.

Thanks again for the help!!

AlohaBra
08-19-2006, 09:08 AM
Kul (or Cool)...I was going to say the DRL is only used in Canada, but I guess it is in the harness.

kb0nly
08-19-2006, 08:43 PM
The US models have the DRL, must have, the lights are on as soon as you start the vehicle. Just like the DRL feature on my Trans Sport.

I haven't got back to looking at it yet, should be next weekend when we get time to work on it.

AlohaBra
08-19-2006, 08:48 PM
Where do you live? My daughter has the 2001 also, but no DRL...Tennesse vehicle....now in SoCal.

kb0nly
08-19-2006, 10:39 PM
Minnesota, and so is the owner of this Jeep.

Like i said, as far as i know it has the DRL, because the lights come on when the engine is started.

CRMTx Hatteras
07-07-2007, 05:59 PM
so check it out.. all those people who are having a crazy hard time finding the VSS or Speed Signal Wire and the Reverse wire let me tell you where they are.. ALL INSIDE THE CAR.. no need to run wires through the firewall.

After spending about 2 hours looking on forums and trying to locate these wires i found them on my own..

The VSS wire is located behind the cluster panel (which i knew would be there just didn't want to play with random wires). I printed out a schematic which told me what each wire does.

(http://www.wjjeeps.com/gauges/cluster_pinout.jpg)

This website will tell you what they are.
The VSS wire is the White wire with the orange stripe, it may not be in the same location as the website lists above but that is your wire.

Now for the Reverse light wire, I took off my taillight, put my truck in R, and used a meter til i found the color of my wire... Which is the Purple wire with Black stripe.. now i didn't want to run a wire from the back of my truck to the front so i found it under the driver's side kick panel. Again, it will still be the Purple wire with Black stripe.. use a meter or test light.. DO NOT JUST GO OFF CHOPPING PURPLE WIRES!!! Find out which one is the right one by putting your Vehicle in the ACC key position, put the vehicle in Reverse and stab a few wires til you get a signal.. ha.. then, while holding the signal, put your truck in park.. if you lose the signal than that is your wire!.. now go have fun
Anthony

AlohaBra
07-08-2007, 10:02 AM
Good work...it yours a Grand Cherokee?


(http://www.larrynova.com/Jeep/00/VSS_and_ABS.pdf)

CRMTx Hatteras
07-08-2007, 07:00 PM
ya.. its a 99 gc limited.. and i've had the nav in for a day now and it works like a charm.. got the new jvc kd-nx5000 and would recommend this single-din unit to anyone who is not wanting a flip-out or stock RB1 costs..

kb0nly
11-26-2007, 03:40 PM
Thanks for that info!

I actually got hung up on some stuff and we are just now getting back to this install, had to come back here and take note of some stuff i lost.

Amazing how one can get tied up doing things and suddenly its four months later.

That connector that the chart you posted a link to shows, is that easy to reach up behind the dash cluster or can you also follow the harness down and tap into it elsewhere?

Just curious where you tapped in on it.

CRMTx Hatteras
05-25-2008, 06:19 PM
Its one of the wires that actually runs into the cluster gauge. Sorry for the delayed response as well, i actually haven't been able to see my jeep in months.. :( Been having to work so much. I used it to install my jvc kds5000 and have yet to have any problems with it. The only problem i've really had with my jeep is the fuel sending unit constantly going out and my heater not working on the passenger side. any ideas there?

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