Learning Race Driving


Dyno247365
08-10-2006, 09:49 PM
How do I learn how to race? Should I buy a faster car and prime myself? Should I learn from a special school? What are the steps to becoming a better race driver?

VR43000GT
08-10-2006, 10:25 PM
I would reccomend an internet search for local tracks in your area. I know around here you can take amateur lessons with guides helping you around the track. So find a place in your area and then contact them for more info. Good luck.

RX-7 Steve
08-10-2006, 10:27 PM
Driving/Racing school.

drdisque
08-11-2006, 01:06 AM
also, autocross is an extremely cheap way to do some performance driving and determine if you even want to do this before spending hundreds/thousands on fancy safety equipment and track time.

http://www.nyr-scca.com/ <- Your SCCA Region

P10DET
08-14-2006, 06:41 PM
If you want to learn to race, buy a kart and go racing. You'll learn more in a year in karts than 5 years racing cars.

I've done (in order):

Autocross
Kart racing
Commercial racing school
SCCA regional licensing school
SCCA regional club racing

By far I learned more in karting than all the others combined.

LVApex
11-08-2006, 12:36 PM
Karting is a great inexpensive way to learn to drive properly...

otherwise, having a "fast" car initally isnt going to help you much (High powered cars can actually slow down your learning curve). and nither will "mods" as most of the time people tune the car to mask their bad driving. (R compounds will make up for alot of bad driving...)

My advice, Head to an autocross and attend a few events. and Dont modify any thing on the car before getting seat time (unless its a safety issue)


The fastest way to learn is to get as much seat time as possible. Be it Karting, Autocross or open track (as long as its timed!!!) Seat time is the key.

NSX-R-SSJ20K
11-13-2006, 02:05 PM
1st rule of Motor Racing : Motor Racing isn't cheap.
2nd rule of Motor Racing : Use someone else's money =p

Join a Go Karting Club they do track days and sell your car and buy a Twin Engined Kart.

Also do you mean corners or straight line as the skill for straight line racing is obscenely different. =p

LVApex
11-14-2006, 12:48 PM
^^ Club racing can be quite cheep. I've seen IT Cars + trailers and spares for under $5,000. all you need is your club race licence and a tow vehicle. Club racing day runs a few hundred + lodging for a weekend (some times you can camp at the track) and figure a few sets of tires a year, two maybe three. Plus what ever repairs/mantinace the car may need. and on an IT that aint much.

Now if you wanted to run a Formula or Sports Racer... then you can start looking at big $$$ just to get started.

Dyno247365
11-21-2006, 12:42 AM
Ah money, the one thing I might eventually have compared to everyone that says they want to do things the cheap way. Right now I'm in college, so..maybe in the summer, who knows what I could do then.

Okay different question but related, this may not be as easy as it sounds, how will I know If I want to be in track racing or NASCAR? I really like the V8s, and ricoheting out of the corners and next to the wall looks really adrenaline pumping. Then again, I think I'm better with constantly having to use the brakes, open wheel is very exciting, and I watched an IROC race, where a sports car champion who had never been on an oval before drove like he had!! NASCAR, I may have a very good shot getting into, F1...it just sucks to know I'll never do it.

Btw, before I sell my 240sx (which I really am doing) I was going to get into autocross, i asked them for information and didn't hear diddly squat from them, what gives? It's been like *checks* dude, 3 months.

LVApex
11-28-2006, 01:44 PM
What exactly are your asprations? Pro race car driver? Club racing? Goofing off on track?

Dyno247365
12-03-2006, 04:51 PM
Pro Racecar Driver, so eventually I will put a lot of money into this. I'm going to race a kart this summer and was told I could only choose one genre, circuit or oval, and that If I wanted to do both I'd need 2 karts and to be in two clubs, which I think is ridiculous.

LVApex
12-04-2006, 11:51 AM
Pro Racecar Driver, so eventually I will put a lot of money into this. I'm going to race a kart this summer and was told I could only choose one genre, circuit or oval, and that If I wanted to do both I'd need 2 karts and to be in two clubs, which I think is ridiculous.


Well, as the saying goes, If you dont have a pro ride By the time your 18, your probably not going to get one. (This is for F1, NASCAR would probably be easier to get in to eventually).

But any way, THe standard progression for Circuit racing goes, Karts, Do well there and you move on to Formula cars, such as Formula Ford, Formula Mazda and the like. Do well there and you move on to the semi-pro classes Like the Star Mazda or Formula Atlantic. Do well there and you may be picked up by a Pro team.. or you move to Europe and run the various classes out there, hopeing to impress a pro team. (there are other vairiations to this if you dont plan on running F1, like if you want to run Le Mans, or one of the many Pro GT classes.)


For Oval tracks... it kinda goes more like... Karts, To something like Midgets or the modifides and slowly up the ladder to Nascar...


Good luck, maybe we'll see your name next to the likes of Schumaker.

Dyno247365
12-04-2006, 12:10 PM
Schumacher probably not but maybe Schumaker...who's he?

lol, well I'm not old, but I'm not rich either. I've got a fighting chance, but first I want to see what i'm really made of and then I'll decide on a goal. We've all got to start somewhere, but it depends how fast I progress.

vectorspecialist
01-16-2007, 11:01 PM
schumacer is a famous, probably the most well known race driver in the world, he recently retired. he raced formula for ferrari. thats all i know, other than the obvious(hes rich)
money is the big thing in racing, well the whole world relies on money
u could try maybe if u have the want and determination, working for a car company that is into motor racing, such as panoz, if u speak only english, try to stay in america, cause terms in england are confussing.
i actually plan on moving to atlanta, and working for ups, and saving some money to take the Panoz racing skool that they offer. i've always wanted to race, and other than strret racing have never really done. mainly cause i dnt come from a family that backs me on the idea, i'm kinda stuck out in left field with it.
the racing skool is ranked like 3rd in the nation(usa). if u want email me at ciaburrid@yahoo.com, i know a lot about wat needs to b done to get to different areas of racing.
but as its said above, start as young as possible, the more experience u have the better off u are

Dyno247365
01-18-2007, 09:46 PM
While I'm waiting to get into karting, I've picked up GTR2 and it's the best game I have ever played but the important thing is that I'm learning about things I never knew. After half a month, I'm obsessed with GT2 Ferraris and was hoping there was a racing school that had Ferraris here (in the states). So far, you told me about Panoz's school, and I know Skip Barber has porsches and bmws to drive.

Second question, what's the difference between driving school and racing school?

vectorspecialist
01-19-2007, 01:51 PM
good ob on buying the game, it wont do much other than to help u learn the real life tracks.
the difference between racing and driving skool, driving skool teaches u wat u should do if a deer jumps into the road, or different road hazzards(it also lowers insurance fora while. racing skool teaches u techniques for racing, cornering, downshifting, racing.
um im not aware of ne skools that use ferraris, there to expensive, they would cost way to much for maintence. theres a skool in california that uses gm products, from shifter carts, all the way up to vettes and anything in between.
and wat game is that, cause i know gt2 is gran turismo, and they dnt have ferraris, the f1 which most the time is forza, pgr which is project gotham racing, wat did u buy. relize like i said games are only going to teach u about the tracks, not the lines or racing ways or rules

Dyno247365
01-20-2007, 03:16 AM
Not this game, it could teach me everything I need to know. Don't confuse this with GT4, definitely not GT2. It's GTR2: The Official FIA GT Racing Simulation for the PC.

I know it's just a game but what a game it is.

vectorspecialist
01-20-2007, 12:17 PM
eh...it'll teach u cars and tracks. but a skool will teach way more than nething else will. if u live near a nascar track, or a big time race track, most of the time they'll have a racing skool, check the internet.
if u wanna go pro, start now. if its nascar, take ur iroc, and find an empty parking lot, and just start making left turns for like 1/2 an hour, get used to going left. if its a gt class racing u wanna do, karting is a good start, then mayb put some money into ur iroc or some other car, that way u can join scca, and work from the bottom to the top, beware tho, no matter wat league u get into it will drain ur pocket, so if ur alone(no parents) have a damn good payign job. if u have parents, and u show enuf interest, they'll probably help u

Dyno247365
01-20-2007, 08:23 PM
Lol at the Iroc comment. I mean it, that was funny. I'm going to try a bunch of things to see what I like best, and now I know that besides money, motivation is my best weapon getting to pro racing. I still don't understand why a road racer can't jump into triovals but I'm leaning toward GT racing right now so I'm going into karting. I wish it was that time already but I have all this time to learn racing lines and braking (aside from college, of course) before I do.

I researched Skip Barber racing school. There's one at Limerock Park. I can catch the ferry and drive to CT, and get their One Day combo, some driving school and some racing school. All I can say is 1,500 for one day better be worth it. I'm not gonna rush my trip for that much either, just mean I'm gonna play it smart.

vectorspecialist
01-21-2007, 12:42 AM
i didnt intend for the connectin between nascar and iroc, and the iroc races believe it or not.
i didnt even know that barber was at limerock ,that may have just made my life a lil easier.
u can jump from gt racing in tri oval, or nascar type racing. boris said has. pj jones has. robby gordon and tony stewert came from irl. along with some others. gt to stock isnt the easiest b/c of diferent racing types. if u wanted 2 jump, try the nascar rd courses than mayb a team will make a full time offer, it just takes time. good that u wanna do a few different things and that gt is ur ultimate goal.
if u dnt mind me asking what do u go to college for?

vectorspecialist
01-21-2007, 12:45 AM
as for rd racing that iroc is ur best bet, just fix it a lil, and rip out the int, unless ud rather a different car

Dyno247365
01-22-2007, 12:11 PM
The Iroc can be fixed but it's iffy right now and I need to buy a kart sooner.

I asked myself the same thing a few years ago, If I want to be a race car driver, why am I going to college. Well the answer was easier than I thought. To pay for getting into it!! My major is currently computer science, but I want to explore mechanical engineering and architecture/design. That's another story because I'm in a college that doesn't offer either but has an excellent comp sci major. another story...where was I. I'm not jinxing anything, but I will be racing a lot before I'm completely out of college.

vectorspecialist
01-22-2007, 03:03 PM
o no, i'm not saying dnt go to college, by ara smart choice, it will pay over time for u to have fun with racing, from wkend stuff, up to full time. i was just wondering if u were going for like automotive type things. and ye u'll probably start karting b4 u finish college.

getfast37
02-01-2007, 05:29 PM
I researched Skip Barber racing school. There's one at Limerock Park. I can catch the ferry and drive to CT, and get their One Day combo, some driving school and some racing school. All I can say is 1,500 for one day better be worth it. I'm not gonna rush my trip for that much either, just mean I'm gonna play it smart.

Sign up for a NASA HPDE (high performance driver education on a racetrack like Lime Rock) in your own car with an instructor riding along. Do enough of those and you can get your racing license. For Northeast, click here:

http://www.nasanortheast.com/schedule.htm

Good luck,

Jon

vectorspecialist
02-01-2007, 11:44 PM
thanks i've been hearing abou nasa lately, and not the one in florida

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