That post totally confused me, but the god joke made me laugh.Don't you realise that Johns religion is confuse_us. :lol:

:rofl: Anyone else get a huge laugh out of this? I thought it was hilarious that John posted..Besides Admin, my other qualification is Medium, I saw him coming. :lol:

TS out

There are many illnesses such as cancer that are caused by not eating right and lack of exercise and taking stimulants that are unhealthy. Like its said, treat your body like a temple. If I ate 2 lbs of rat poison would it be god fault I died?. Is god to blame for someone who smoked the majority of there life getting lung cancer?. I don't think so.

Well, not to argue with what you said, as I already stated in my previous post, I am a firm believer in God. But, I do have my doubts from time to time on certain topics...

So my rebuttle... What about the men and women that get breast cancer? That's a genetically inhereited trait. No one brings that upon themselves.

Well, not to argue with what you said, as I already stated in my previous post, I am a firm believer in God. But, I do have my doubts from time to time on certain topics...

So my rebuttle... What about the men and women that get breast cancer? That's a genetically inhereited trait. No one brings that upon themselves.
Everyone has there time to go and unless good people go to hell now. I doubt going to heaven is a punishment. Now there are also other issue's that would have to require death like over population for instance. Everything happens for a reason. Who are we to judge if its happening for the good of man kind or not?. Thats like saying why did god allow someone like Hitler to be born. It was the upbringing and his environment that made him into the murdering tyrant he was.

Everyone has there time to go and unless good people go to hell now. I doubt going to heaven is a punishment. Now there are also other issue's that would have to require death like over population for instance. Everything happens for a reason. Who are we to judge if its happening for the good of man kind or not?. Thats like saying why did god allow someone like Hitler to be born. It was the upbringing and his environment that made him into the murdering tyrant he was.

Just like to clear some things up, according to the bible it doesn't matter whether you are good, bad, or ugly, all that matters to get into heaven is that you believe with your heart and confess with your soul that Jesus died on the cross so that we may have eternal life and except him into your heart, you will be saved.

Being a good person has nothing to do with anything really. There is a story in the bible of a man who was very wealthy, he had dozens of dogs that would travel with him and lick him (in that time they thought dog licks healed ailments). The wealthy man with all the dogs walked past a homeless person who happened to be sick. The wealthy man allowed his dogs to lick the homeless person than he gave him money, which was seen as a very noble act of that time. Shortly after the man died (think he got run over by a horse or something), but since he hadn't except christ into his heart he went to hell. Theres more to the story but thats the summery.

I wonder if anyone will read this after my "better nate than lever story"

Just like to clear some things up, according to the bible it doesn't matter whether you are good, bad, or ugly, all that matters to get into heaven is that you believe with your heart and confess with your soul that Jesus died on the cross so that we may have eternal life and except him into your heart, you will be saved.
See thats the thing. I don't believe everything in the bible and I have my own beliefs. The bible was written by man not god. So therefore I refuse to blindly follow it without question. I have my own beliefs in life and how I think being a good or bad person effects your everyday life. So while I will not dismiss your right to believe or not to believe anything you like. There is no need for you to clear up what I am saying about my beliefs cause I am not quoting the bible or any message I got from god just what I believe.

I see so many things here that I do not agree with, that I don't even know where to begin.
Just like to clear some things up, according to the bible it doesn't matter whether you are good, bad, or ugly, all that matters to get into heaven is that you believe with your heart and confess with your soul that Jesus died on the cross so that we may have eternal life and except him into your heart, you will be saved.This is one of those topics that really drives me nuts about. You you are saying that unless a person (regardless of who they are and where they came from and what religion they accept/practice/preach) that if they do not accept our Lord Jesus Christ as their savior that they will not be saved and be accepted into the kingdom of heaven. Man, can that idea ever be so narrow minded. Give me a break. I guess Lucifer/Satan/The Devil better make alot of freaking room cause theres' gonna be a whole lot of people going to join him in hell. I guess only Christians will be saved and every one else be damned. :screwy: Un huh, so I guess so much for all those other religions that take up 2/3 of the world.

Being a good person has nothing to do with anything really. There is a story in the bible of a man who was very wealthy, he had dozens of dogs that would travel with him and lick him (in that time they thought dog licks healed ailments). The wealthy man with all the dogs walked past a homeless person who happened to be sick. The wealthy man allowed his dogs to lick the homeless person than he gave him money, which was seen as a very noble act of that time. Shortly after the man died (think he got run over by a horse or something), but since he hadn't except christ into his heart he went to hell. Theres more to the story but thats the summery.That story has been said, rewrote and retold so many times in so many different ways that I could honestly say anyone reading it can interprete it any way they like. From the story has been told in Medieval times as a folk song in England, then as a traditional spiritual one. To modern day parables and honoring of saints such as San Lazaro in Cuba. Its funny but that story of Lazarus and Dives (latin word for Rich Man) gives the impression that the Rich Man died and was sent to hell because he was Rich and did not give any of his riches to the poor full of sores lazarus (who went to heaven). So is the Bible stating that all rich folks are to burn in hell. Unless they spread their wealth to the poor, thus making everyone have the same amount and make it even. hmmmm thats sure sounds like Communism to me. (but thats for another day to discuss). To me it doesn't make much sense to hear that accepting Jesus will get you into the Kindgom of heaven, but if you don't then you will burn in hell. Wow.


This is Gods diary, History of the world Part 1.:lol: Also known as the Bible.
hmmm I am bored. Okay I created the Universe, and angels to keep me company. We joke, we play. One of my best friends Lucifier pissed me off for not agreeing to my rules, so I cast him out. A few lesser idiots (his team) follow him, screw them, who needs them. oh but wait. let me give him some powers just like me as a reward for pissing me off, this way he can piss me off even more.
Okay that was fun, but I am still bored these angels all they do is play harp all day. Lucifer is busy setting up his kingdom so I need someone. I therefore created one guy since I am still lonely (yes I have a lonely complex, sue me), that guy ends up lonely himself so I give him a gal. I stand back and see the little children play. Oh, but I tell them they can have anything in the garden but not from that Tree in the middle. (On afterthought, I do not know why I even put that tree there) . Anyway my ex buddy Lucifer has finally set up shop and is trying out his new powers. He gets the girl to eat the forbidden fruit and although I am God and I can see past present and future, I somehow did not see this coming and it pissed me off, so I bannished the two out of the garden. (although what I should have done was kick Lucifiers ass and taken away his powers, but eh the story would end too quickly and I'll be back to being bored).
actually this pissed me off so much that I took some time off (2 weeks my time, 10,000 years their time) and left my angels to overlook things. I swear to myself, what was I thinking, man did they screw things up.
In this time frame the two that were banished had sex, and multiplied and had sex with their children and grandchildren. It was one hell (pardon the expression) incest of a party, still they had to expand and there was no way else how to do it. So I'll overlook that for now. For some reason, something happened along the way that some of the children turned really white, some really black, others brown and others yellow. Oh well, I guess adding more color will spiced things up around here.

:lol: I could go on, but I take it you will get what I am trying to point out that relying on one book which I truly believe was written by man to control man can be interpreted in so many ways by so many people that it borderlines on dangerous.

TS out (playing tag with Jhvh and Lucifer)

Dave that was awesome, could not have done that any better myself.

You you are saying that unless a person (regardless of who they are and where they came from and what religion they accept/practice/preach) that if they do not accept our Lord Jesus Christ as their savior that they will not be saved and be accepted into the kingdom of heaven. Man, can that idea ever be so narrow minded.

Yes thats true....ummm.. why would the Lord let you into his kingdom of heaven if you dont even beleive in him...come on...think...

Un huh, so I guess so much for all those other religions that take up 2/3 of the world.

we dont know who's wrong or right tho...maybe i'm doomed to come back as a snake in the next life or somethin cuz i dont beleive their religion

So is the Bible stating that all rich folks are to burn in hell. Unless they spread their wealth to the poor, thus making everyone have the same amount and make it even. hmmmm thats sure sounds like Communism to me.

no the bible is stating dont die rich...

(but thats for another day to discuss). To me it doesn't make much sense to hear that accepting Jesus will get you into the Kindgom of heaven, but if you don't then you will burn in hell. Wow.
see first statement....would you...meaning dave aka twospirits... let someone come live with you, in your house if they didnt even beleive that you exist?


One of my best friends Lucifier pissed me off for not agreeing to my rules, so I cast him out. A few lesser idiots (his team) follow him, screw them, who needs them. oh but wait. let me give him some powers just like me as a reward for pissing me off, this way he can piss me off even more.

Lucifer already had a lot of power before he was cast away. He was one of the most powerful angels. And its not like "o he didnt agree with me" its more like "o he wants to overthrow me, be the supreme ruler of my kingdom and take over all of creation"

I hate when people are dying, people on death row even, and the last day they have the preacher or whatever come in and they "repent" and "accept god" and supposedly they're going to heaven. Their regretting dying at this particular time is supposed to negate the fact they were horrible people. All of religion and their beliefs piss me off...

I hate when people are dying, people on death row even, and the last day they have the preacher or whatever come in and they "repent" and "accept god" and supposedly they're going to heaven. Their regretting dying at this particular time is supposed to negate the fact they were horrible people. All of religion and their beliefs piss me off...

i dont beleive that works

I think this all goes to the core concept of blind faith. Some people see a need for something like god, heaven and hell.... some people find the whole concept rediculous. If ANYTHING on this earth happened that could truly be an undeniable sign of the existance of god and all that goes along with him/her/it, then I would believe... however, as far as I have seen, you're just as well off having the lord of the rings being your religion... you all should read the silmarillion some time, it's amazing hoe bible-esque it is while being completely made up by JRR Tolkien... the bible no doubt was a sort of model for it, but still I've seen as much reason to believe that is the divine truth as to believe the same of the bible.

I think this all goes to the core concept of blind faith. Some people see a need for something like god, heaven and hell.... some people find the whole concept rediculous. If ANYTHING on this earth happened that could truly be an undeniable sign of the existance of god and all that goes along with him/her/it, then I would believe... however, as far as I have seen, you're just as well off having the lord of the rings being your religion... you all should read the silmarillion some time, it's amazing hoe bible-esque it is while being completely made up by JRR Tolkien... the bible no doubt was a sort of model for it, but still I've seen as much reason to believe that is the divine truth as to believe the same of the bible.
But you still can't get past the fact that the bible and christianity were the first .... all other religons and beliefs came after the fact... so that brings up the question... where did they come from... I mean... If we were created then where was the "creator" at the time... a religon cant just come about half way through a lifetime? and you say the book by JRR Tolkien, which you find belief in, was modeled after the bible, ok... so... I'm seeing a trended here....

I think this all goes to the core concept of blind faith. Some people see a need for something like god, heaven and hell.... some people find the whole concept rediculous. If ANYTHING on this earth happened that could truly be an undeniable sign of the existance of god and all that goes along with him/her/it, then I would believe... however, as far as I have seen, you're just as well off having the lord of the rings being your religion... you all should read the silmarillion some time, it's amazing hoe bible-esque it is while being completely made up by JRR Tolkien... the bible no doubt was a sort of model for it, but still I've seen as much reason to believe that is the divine truth as to believe the same of the bible.

boy, having a life without hope or something to look forward to must suck...

I think this all goes to the core concept of blind faith. Some people see a need for something like god, heaven and hell.... some people find the whole concept rediculous. If ANYTHING on this earth happened that could truly be an undeniable sign of the existance of god and all that goes along with him/her/it, then I would believe... however, as far as I have seen, you're just as well off having the lord of the rings being your religion... you all should read the silmarillion some time, it's amazing hoe bible-esque it is while being completely made up by JRR Tolkien... the bible no doubt was a sort of model for it, but still I've seen as much reason to believe that is the divine truth as to believe the same of the bible.
:lol: I know you just suggested that cause of how much the Elf community was seen as a high order and mystical force in that movie :uhoh: (Damn, I hope thats not the real religion especially after all the elf cracks towards Kasey). Anyway I agree with stepho on his part of having no faith or hope. I would rather be lead around blindly with hope that there is a greater purpose out there for my life than just go day to day with the good and bad thinking thats all there is. I think we should live life one 1/4 mile at a time :rofl: . Sorry I had to but I was serious about the rest. Thinking thats it and this is it, thats just sad :frown: .

Wow, I missed a lot in the last few days. I think I caught up on all the posts that I missed and I will try to add my useless opinions.
God created Lucifer and the most powerful angel of all heaven and God's creations. He was, in essence, to be God's second in command. But Lucifer was greedy and power-hungry and wanted more. He wanted to be Top Dog and tried to overthrow God in his kingdom. 1/3 (one-third) of the existing angles in Heaven sided with Lucifer. The other 2/3 with God and they fought. Lucifer lost (obviously), and God cast him and his followers into what is now Hell.
Now people ask, why would God allow this to happen? Because God gives people choice. It would be considered tyrannical to make everyone believe in the same thing and worship the same god. We see it in movies all the time, the person in power wanted everyone under thier control to submit to them. But not everyone feels they should. That's how Lucifer was. That's why Adam and eve failed in the Garden of Eden, that's why bad people and bad things exist today.

But you still can't get past the fact that the bible and christianity were the first .... all other religons and beliefs came after the fact... so that brings up the question... where did they come from... I mean... If we

wrong wrong majorly f'ing wrong

Greek religion much? Judaism?

Assuming greeks to have the first religion (I am not sure of the things predating them), where did it come from? Simple: the desire to unserstand things that they could not figure out. They didn't have the science and technology to know what we do now, so had to make up possible explanations. Now that we have proved things liek it ain't Zeus up there tossing lightning down, we dismiss the earlier beliefs as myths.

hey... i found this crap on other dimensions... it will help you understand the concept of more than 3 dimensions with animation...or... your head will implode from trying to visualize

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/dimensions.html

That's pretty neat.

I saw a video about string theory in my physics class... I fell asleep though.

I don't know why physics videos alway have music that puts you to sleep.

I saw a video about string theory in my physics class... I fell asleep though.

I don't know why physics videos alway have music that puts you to sleep.

Cause that shit is borrrrrrrriiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg.

There was a school around here that showed Brokeback Mountain to the students without parents signing a permission slip...They got in some trouble haha...

Cause that shit is borrrrrrrriiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg.

Of course it is... if you're not open minded.

There was a school around here that showed Brokeback Mountain to the students without parents signing a permission slip...They got in some trouble haha...

Yeah but honestly.. aside from chicks who wants to see that?

2 gays and they went to this mountain.. roll credits, the end.

Yeah but honestly.. aside from chicks who wants to see that?

2 gays and they went to this mountain.. roll credits, the end.If that is what you get out of that film, then you have much to learn young skywalker.

As for the school teachers getting in trouble for showing that film, it all depends on numerous factors.
1-If the school previously notified parents of any film they show the students, then yeah. If not, they shouldn't get in trouble.
2-How old are the students. Depending on the age, some kids might start asking a crap load of questions why two guys are kissing or falling in love while having wives.
3-What was the class that was showing the film. Is is a History, Theatre, Film, Social Studies etc etc casue any of those would be fine to show a film like that to illustrate the meaning behind the story and the social impact it has on a society.

Regardless what does this topic have to do with the original topic of believing in God? Until God comes down and specifically says, I hate gays or will not accept them in my kingdom unless they are straight, then I am not going to put my trust in a thousand year old book(s) which were written by man to control the fellow man as fact and which leads to much interpretation.

TS out