Can somebody explain to me why this car is only sold with an automatic transmission ?? What are they thinking ??

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cause they're idiots, heheh

that's the only reason i'd never buy one, i'd much rather get an M5........ stick shift baby

Too many useless people. Tiptronic all the way! Manual is also good.

Hey, Lotus, do you know where that picture was taken? Was it at a mall near Azusa California?

I think they were thinking "what is the average age of a guy looking to buy a Mercedes and would he rather spend time shifting or relaxing" and I think they choose relaxing. They shoudl still offer it as an option I think.

This car is really an E430 ,, AMG is a company that modifies Mercedes.... I rather like the BMW M powerd engines cuz they are done by BMW.... Anyways if you looking for a Fast E class of any fast Mercedes ,,, please check Rennetech (spelling is wrong) or a nice little company called Barbus ..

here is a Link you SHOULD see V12 E Class Mercedes capable of 206 MPH or 330 Km/h :) lemme see if I can put a Picture here. check this site A MUST Screw AMG

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/html/ev12.html

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here you go BBD:

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/mercedes/ev12t.jpg

or did you want:

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/mercedes/ev12t.jpg

Gang$terr ahhhh thank you so much :) how you do that hehehe

uhhh Psman32@af..... an old guy that wants a relaxing ride wouldn't buy an E55, an E55 is for speed..... they would buy an E430 or an S

yeah i know an E55 is built for speed, but that doesnt mean thats how it will be used. I know someone who owned a Tarus SHO, and said it was just ur average Tarus and there was nothing special about, because he drove it as an average car. No matter what the car is, if it is driven as an average car, the person driving it will always see it as an average car and thats how some of the people who buy the E55 might be.

possibly.... but i think any old guy that wants to drive slow would rather have an S-class than and E55

AMG is the inhouse-tuner for Mercedes, owned by Mercedes (or DaimlerChrysler if you like... :)) ...just like Mugen is to Honda, STI to Subaru, Ralliart to Mitsubishi, M to BMW etc...


oh, Mercedes has always built cars for the elder rich people, (to senile to drive stickshift... ;) ) BMW is for the younger, sportier people...


...my opinion...


(often when streetracing here in stockholm, a dude comes with his E55 AMG, and kicks almost everybodys ass.. lost of go in that car!!)

Originally posted by my self


(often when streetracing here in stockholm, a dude comes with his E55 AMG, and kicks almost everybodys ass.. lost of go in that car!!)

here he is, ready to kick some ass!!

Uh, your streetracing is kinda wierd., looks like a town gathering or something. Then again, I'd gather for a 300ZX and an E55.

i know, it's like in the boonies or somethin, haha, in the middle of nowhere.... hahaha

that guy wit the E55 needs some better rims.. i no like those

Well, they are the Standard AMG rims. They do kinda look like there's almost no gap between the metal though.

The E55 for what it is, is a very good car.....i mean it has almost has the same (its a hair slower) performence as an M5 that is driven by a PROFESSIONAL DIRVER.....but all you have to do in an E55 is slam your foot down, and hold on...

yeah it's so shitty that they're automatic only.... that's why I like M5s cause it's manual only..... for real drivers, not for retards who just know how to slam the peddle down

Well thats one way to look at it....but i mean if you spend most of your time in rush hour traffic you're probly better off with an automatic....and from what i hear the really great thing about the BMW M5 and M3 is that they are "driver cars" but that is also one of there cons....they are suposedly too hardcore for some. So i guess its just prefrence. Granted BMW ARE alot more orientated towards driving, not JUST because it comes manual but also if you want to shut off all the BS driving aids you can, but in all benz's you cant. (even when you "shut them off" they're still running, just at 60% productivity)

I'm an old guy who chose an E55 over an S-class. I may not use all that performance very often, but I like knowing that it's there. For my driving, an automatic works best. Of course, the transmission has the touch shift feature for manual up and down shifting. It may not be a true manual, but it works very well.

Welcome to AF! :D

jmcno2 post up some pictures of your ride

I will be taking my E55 on a trip from home (NC) to West Virginia this coming weekend. Lots of twisty mountain roads. Should be fun! I will post some pictures when I get back. Thanks for the suggestion.

I drove my E55 to WV last weekend. This was my first trip in it. I did quite a bit of both freeway and mountain road driving. All I can say is, "I own the road."

I've attached a picture.

Here's another shot of my E55.

One more picture.

Oh, how nice. I love to see an AMG anytime. Does it say who built your engine?

wow... sweet ride

one of my friend's dad has an E55 too, but it's black

it's good you chose the E55 over S-class, very good choice :D now you have a luxury drivers car

The engine is based on the 5 liter that is standard in the S500. It is modified by AMG (Aufrecht (founder), Melcher (partner), Grossaspach (Aufrecht's hometown)). Try the following URL for details.

http://www.autostv.com/2000/2000_Mercedes-Benz_E55_AMG.html

Here is the AMG page on the Mercedes site.

http://209.167.164.66/brand/container.jsp?/models/amg/about/index.jsp&modelCode=AMG

As a mercedes tech, I am speaking from experience. In case you haven't noticed all Benzes come with a five speed automatic. Except the new C coupe and slk 230. The transmission is the same in all cars albeit with different clutch packs and gear ratios. AMG makes the transmission shift much faster than any other auto tranny on the market. And it will bark the tires with ESP turned off while shifting into 2nd. The manumatic will do anything you want it to. including bouncing off the rev limiter in all gears.. Automobile magazine did a comparison when the M5 came out, the E55 is cheaper stops faster rides smoother and will almost out run the M5, and is a zillion times more reliable. And you don't have to wait 1,200 miles before your fist full throttle application. I'd personally give renntech a call and for 5,000 to 7,500 can install a Euro spec 6-speed gear box, If you can afford the car, you can afford this. All European cars are available with stick shifts. Emission regulations doesn't permit them into the US.

Thanks for the inside inside point of view. I am very happy with the E55 and especially the transmission. I understand that most serious drivers would prefer a true manual, but for my driving the manumatic gives me the best of both types. I use the E55 as primary transportion, not as a rally car. If I wanted a rally car, I would have picked something with two doors that weighed a lot less than 3700 pounds. But if you're driving a "real" sports car and you pull up next to me at a stop light on an empty road, don't rev your engine unless you want a whippin'.

AMEN! that's the way its supposed to be. Mercedes is probably the highest quality car you can buy without going into megabucks supercars. And they have the performance needed to hang with those supercars too. IF that still isn't enought there's always renntech and Brabus. keep in mind though that they will viod your factory warranty. All in the name of fun and speed.

Granted BMW ARE alot more orientated towards driving, not JUST because it comes manual but also if you want to shut off all the BS driving aids you can, but in all benz's you cant. (even when you "shut them off" they're still running, just at 60% productivity) [/B][/QUOTE]

They aren't running at 60% the engine management merely allows full throttle to be applied which will easily overpower the rear brakes as they try to keep the wheels from spinning. And why would any body buy a 6-speed car that doesn't allow you to powershift?My friends a BMW tech, the hydraulic clutch doesn't allow a powershift while bouncing off the limiter, it just slips the clutch until it wears out(you'd have to try to power shift all the time though) it is a 900 dollar clutch plus labor, a benz's auto tranny is gauranteed for the 50,000 warranty and the fluid is good for 100,000 miles , why complain? You get the best of both worlds except without the third pedal.

bmw and mercedes are both great companies

my family is really bmw oriented (but we own both bmws and mercedes), so i prefer the bmw over the mercedes
but they are damn close

I am fortunate enough to own a 2001 ML55 AMG and a 2002 S4. Overall the best performane is in the ML55 becaus it has alot mor torque then the S4 but The S4 sticks to the road better

oh, long time no see...

have to clarify: the picture of that AMG I posted happens to be from a meeting on an airfield. he does attend street races thou...

Originally posted by BigBabyB
I am fortunate enough to own a 2001 ML55 AMG and a 2002 S4. Overall the best performane is in the ML55 becaus it has alot mor torque then the S4 but The S4 sticks to the road better

i don't think it's really fair to compair an M to an S4

Sure its fair to compare the 2. If the M-class kicks the audi's ass, then what's to compare?

it's an SUV vs. a sporty car

they're not in the same category

Originally posted by Crackerman
Sure its fair to compare the 2. If the M-class kicks the audi's ass, then what's to compare?

No, you really cant compare the two cars.....like gang$tarr said, one is an SUV and the other is Sports Sedan....
And for the record the S4 would PASTE the ML.....

but for the fun of it, who cares? I would rather own the fastest suv currently in production, than a little 4 door sedan, wouldn't u? And u can cruise at 155 mph ALL day long.

Originally posted by Crackerman
And u can cruise at 155 mph ALL day long.

not quite all day... don't forget you gotta fill up the tank every hour :) (atleast)

Oh, sorry. I forgot about the gas. and other little things. My bad

Originally posted by Crackerman
Oh, sorry. I forgot about the gas. and other little things. My bad

LOL :hehehe: i'm juss jokin around :D

Originally posted by Crackerman
but for the fun of it, who cares? I would rather own the fastest suv currently in production, than a little 4 door sedan, wouldn't u? And u can cruise at 155 mph ALL day long.

I never understood the appeal of owning a fast SUV....its an oximoron. Trucks are made to go off roading, not to do 155mph. And id personally like the "little 4 door sedan" because when we hit a turn ill be lauging my ass off at you, as you roll down the cliff.....

I think i'd rather have the S4 also
i don't like the mercedes, i'd rather drive our X5
i'm not really an SUV kinda guy though, i like them :uhoh: just not as your only car. If i had only 1 car, than i wouldn't get an SUV. but i would get an SUV as like a 2nd or 3rd car. Cause you can't drive sporty cars in the winter, and i'd rather have an SUV do drive in the snow than a sedan. So 1. S4 2. SUV :D

Originally posted by gang$tarr


not quite all day... don't forget you gotta fill up the tank every hour :) (atleast)

Well, if you want to save gas and eco here in Europe it´s available the E-class 2.2L Diesel with 116HP and 0 to 60mph in about 15¨, 95mph, at about $50000. Imagine if it would arrive in US, I guess never! jejeje
:eek: :confused: :D :eek:

i don't like the mercedes, i'd rather drive our X5 as quoted by gang$$tar

I'm really sorry that u would rather drive an X-5. my roomate is a BMW tech and i quote him when i say that bmw's are the ford of the european car market. The X-5's are the biggest piece of crap and they're hard to work on. I'm not arguing,... merely stating a fact. If u want quality. performance AND a better all wheel drive system go buy a mercedes ML500 or ML55 AMG.

Originally posted by Crackerman
i don't like the mercedes, i'd rather drive our X5 as quoted by gang$$tar

I'm really sorry that u would rather drive an X-5. my roomate is a BMW tech and i quote him when i say that bmw's are the ford of the european car market. The X-5's are the biggest piece of crap and they're hard to work on. I'm not arguing,... merely stating a fact. If u want quality. performance AND a better all wheel drive system go buy a mercedes ML500 or ML55 AMG.

Certainly the ML55 AMG or whatever isn´t about quality or styling, quality & styling = X5. Simple as that.

Originally posted by Crackerman
i don't like the mercedes, i'd rather drive our X5 as quoted by gang$$tar

I'm really sorry that u would rather drive an X-5. my roomate is a BMW tech and i quote him when i say that bmw's are the ford of the european car market. The X-5's are the biggest piece of crap and they're hard to work on. I'm not arguing,... merely stating a fact. If u want quality. performance AND a better all wheel drive system go buy a mercedes ML500 or ML55 AMG.


hahahahaha :D that gave me a good laugh..... but seriously! lol :)

if you wanna state a fact, show me proof
since every magazine reviews the X5 as one of the BEST SUVs you can buy, with no arguements here, the best handling SUV you can buy.

BMWs are quality cars, that's why my family continues buying them cause we never have any problems with them

Ford of the european market my ass, have you ever been to europe? There aren't that many BMWs around, and most people in europe like BMW.

I'm sorry that you think that BMW is better, but as a Mercedes technician, you'll never convince me that BMW is a superior product. Hands down.

I read in Car & Driver that the X5 uses a anti-slip system that COOKS the brakes because instead of just electronically cutting off power to that wheel, it applies the brakes. Not smart if you ask me.

Mercedes does the same thing. Except it reacts much faster and is far superior to BMW's system.

Lotsa topics in this thread. ;-)

We're better off in the US without the MB manual. It's a disappointing unit, especially compared to other German sticks. And I can't remember how many times I've read that the MB automatic is an amazing thing. And I believe the new 7 series is only offered with an automatic, at least in the US, and that includes a scary little column-mounted shifter.

ML55 vs. S4. Hmm. How about a Subaru WRX to scare them both. (Somebody slap me for that. Hard.)

The E55 wheels aren't incredibly attractive or even flattering, but the fun part is that you can leave an E55 completely showroom stock, and still embarass most other cars, even when they have been modified.

I'm not convinced that Mercedes quality is as superior as it used to be. Let's see how the current ones hold up after ten or fifteen years, Meanwhile, I'll stick with 1980's models, or maybe an early 90's R127 SL. But if I were offered my choice of an M5 or an E55, but not both, I'd take the E without having to think tooo long about it.

I just wish they could/would bring more diesels over here, so they get the chance to age down to my price range. Hard to maintain my habit with new car prices.

Benzaholic
89 300CE, 146K, stock wheels, but larger 205/60 Pilot XGT V4's

Check out the dual panes of glass on the roof...each with their own electric retractable headliner to block out unwanted sun on really bright days...

What an innovative, great option for your E-class! This roof is perfect for those who can't afford to buy a convertible and a sedan...you get the best of both world's. We say, it's a must have option for the E-class. Brilliant!

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Years ago Mercedes had a performance company who tuned MBs creat a car called "The Hammer". It was produced in limited numbers and was a serious rocket ship! Since that time Mercedes has acquired that company and made it the performance arm of Mercedes-Benz. That company is ////AMG and what makes their creations so special compared to other German cars is their durability. They last a very long time. Each engine in an AMG car is made from scratch by one AMG engine technician. Their slogan is, "One man, one engine". The fastest Mercedes made is currently the E55 ////AMG. It has over 400HP in a medium sized chasis. It doesn't need a manual shifter because people who can afford one don't want to shift as they drive through city streets and there is no loss of power when the right foot is in control on the highways. P.

The new E55 AMG has a supercharged 5.4 liter V8 that put out 469 HP, and 516 lb-ft of torque. It is, without a doubt a screamer in anordinary E-class body. It should hold the power at the top until next year when BMW releases their new M5 with a 500 HP engine. P.

If you knew anything about AMG, they built their entire foundation on Automatic transmissions. Their newest one coming out in a couple of years will be an automatic 7-Speed transmission. Oh, and the E55 could dust almost any car on the road including a Ferrari 360 Modena and a Corvette Z06. Now who would want an M5 now?

If you think the E55 is "really just an E430" you have no idea what you are talking about.

TJC

Damn people who dont know engine displacement.

Automatic transmission is what Mercedes-Benz is all about.
Mercedes Benz is one of the best automatic transmission makers in the world.
They are now the only company to produce & offer 7 speed automatic tranmissions for the market.
They are the one who produces a 5 speed automatic transmission which handles 738 lb-ft of torque with full warranty.

"Mercedes Benz is one of the best automatic transmission makers in the world."

does Mercedes make their own auto gear boxes ?
cuz I think its all supplied to them threw a nice company called GETRAG

i think an automatic transmission is better for car with over 400 hp as a manual transmission

look at bmw. you cannot drive a bmw m5 with manual transmission without shaking. only you are real professionell.
so the most people buy a m5 with automatic transmission.

"Mercedes Benz is one of the best automatic transmission makers in the world."

does Mercedes make their own auto gear boxes ?
cuz I think its all supplied to them threw a nice company called GETRAG


Mercedes does make their own automatic transmissions, and they had already made over 11 million of those for the last 40+ years.
The 5 speed auto transmission used in the previous generation Jaguar XKR/XJR also came from Mercedes (from S600).