Well, since the Sebring is gone I've been driving the GTC to work until the Stealth arrives. Today on the way to work I ran across a guy with a 1.8t GTI that work at the same place I do. So we mess around with each other and even in my cars crap condition he wasn't walking on me as bad as I had thought being that he claims he has a chip, short ram, and exhaust.

Anyhow, we get to the bottom of the hill and there is a turbo Subie wagon that wants in on the action. It wasn't a WRX or anything. We get to a light and I rev up the engine to let her know my intentions. When the light went green I didn't launch, she did. Didn't matter, I passed her in first and just blew her away. For having a turbo, that was one SLOW car. Hell, I can’t even go WOT.

so was it an RS with a turbo in it? also how come its taking so long for your stealth to come in?

A non-WRX turbo Wagon???

Are you sure?

Yeah I am a little confused was it a turbo? Anyway I was probably in Canada while you bought you Stealth so can you throw in a few details?.....please!!!

You sure it wasn't a debadged WRX Wagon?

Cause I've never heard of a non WRX turbo Subaru Impreza. Otherwise it's just 173hp... rather than 230hp in WRX trim.

No, it wasn't an Impreza, it was a turbo Legacy. It only has 160HP and 183 ft/lbs of torque which explains why I waxed her.

Well, that would explain a whole lot... should of mentioned that in the first place.

I didn't know what model it was, I had to Google it once you guys started asking questions.

Yeah I am a little confused was it a turbo? Anyway I was probably in Canada while you bought you Stealth so can you throw in a few details?.....please!!!

Yeah, I bought a 1991 Stealth R/T TT from someone on the 3Si boards. Here's a link to for sale thread:

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=332514

The reason the car ins't here yet is because they have until the 12th of this month to pick it up.

No, it wasn't an Impreza, it was a turbo Legacy. It only has 160HP and 183 ft/lbs of torque which explains why I waxed her.

lucky bastard, how much did you get it for?

^^^^??????i think u mean the stealth, not the sube wagon.

If you're asking about the Stealth, I ended up getting it for $6,400.

^^ Looks very nice Polygon. I trust we'll be seeing more of you in the 3/S boards on AF. ?

Yes, yes you will.

Nice Kill! That RT/TT is to to Nioce!!!!

Yea i meant the stealth, lucky bastard, very nice man! Its hard to find cars like that.

Nice purchase. The RT/TTs are nice.

just curious what are the numbers on the chrysler as of now? BTW good Kill!

so did you beat the gti.....I got lost...

just curious what are the numbers on the chrysler as of now? BTW good Kill!

Worse than stock which is 174 HP and 210 ft/lbs of torque. I'm pretty sure the timing is off, but mostly I have a boost leak. The entire vac system is shot so I can't give it full throttle or I'll hit the overboost cut.

so did you beat the gti.....I got lost...

We weren't racing, mostly playing around, but when I pushed it as hard as I could he didn't walk on me much and I know he was WOT. This leads me to believe that he is a lying sack and that he is pretty much stock. I don't think he has it chipped.

And he thinks his GTi will beat my R/T when it gets here. :lol:

if it was chipped and the lebaron is in the condition you say, he wouldve raped you faster than a 40 year old perv....well you get the idea, if he was stock and you were at optimal condition it wouldve been a very good race.
what year is the GTI, cause that make a difference too.

I'm not sure of the year, but it's a MKIV 20th, so that means he's about 500 pounds heavier than the GTC plus he had an extra person in the car. He does talk a lot of shit and I figured if it was chipped he would have blown my doors off. He also claims to have an LSD, fuel rail, chip, short ram, catback, and a fuel pump. He says that the chip is programmed to give him 250WHP and he is on the stock K03 sport. From what I've been told that's not possible without a bigger turbo.

I don't know, but he also called a BOV and a turbo timer performance mods, so you be the judge. Personally, I think he's full of shit. He was faster, but not much.

the 20th is a 2003, those had 180hp 180tq, the only difference about the 20th is that it is 6speed. stock for stock compared to a 5speed gti, the 5 speed would beat it cause acceleration suffers a bit in the 6 speeds, and no the 6 speeds are not better in top end with the gti's. So I think at optimal performance you probably wouldve won.

Now as for the mods, he's talking shit. They dont make short rams for Any of the VW 1.8t's sumply because al the hot air is there. There is no chip that will give you 250whp for the 1.8t, even with a turbo upgrade to the KO4 you get a up to 245 unless you up the boost. Putting an LSD in our cars would slow it down cause it has its own version of an LSD without all the mechanical parts so keeping it stock gives the most power (the LSD). If he had any form of aftermarket intake you'd hear it, trust me, same goes with the catback.

The fuel pump doesnt do shit unless you upped the boost so ask him how much he's pushing and even then he doesnt need a new fuel pump unless he's pushing about 300whp with another turbo. Any other questions?

Nah, you confirmed exactly what I had figured. :grinno:

Too bad he's a being a tool, it's a nice car. I guess I'll have to fix the vac system, timing, and install my exhaust and blow his doors off. Then again I need to do that with the R/T when it gets here as well. I'll try to get a video.

i'd rather see the lebaron, it'd be a closer race and more exciting

i'd rather see the lebaron, it'd be a closer race and more exciting

Yeah, I want to race him again in the LeBaron. The outcome in the R/T is pretty predictable. I just need to send the downpipe out to Jet-Hot to get coated. However, I have to wait until the Stealth gets here to do the vac system since the GTC is my only car right now.

I'll race him in both and get videos of both then post them up here. I'm sure with the exhaust the GTC will take him down.

As an update, I was talking to a guy who rides to work with him. He told him that this chip also makes it so his engine can rev to 14,000 RPM and not do any damage. :rofl:

that's funny considering the car redline ends at 7500

also the d/p for the gtc should allow the turbo to spool much faster.

14k RPM's !!!!!!!!???? Thats unheard of unless you are in like an Indy car or on a motorcycle (high performance). Unless you really think that little V-dub can handle the motor turning over 242 times per second....rofl!

jezzz....my bike doesnt even redline at 14grand....

my red line is about 8k....14k rpms? wtf? how can u hit that on pump gas? = not happening.....he's full of shit. race him in your pedal bike. say u gotta rev to 14k rpms b4 we race though.....and then rice(er) can beat him in the corrolla....and post it everywhere :lol: jk.

that's funny considering the car redline ends at 7500

also the d/p for the gtc should allow the turbo to spool much faster.

Yeah, this guy is just a pathological liar. I don't believe anything he says anymore. I think once the exhaust is done it will make a HUGE difference since the pipe is all crush bent and at one point goes down below two inches, plus you all can see the tailpipe that could be clogged with a baby carrot. It is all being replaced with 3" mandrel bent pipe from the turbo back, new high flow cat, DynoMax Race Bullet muffler, and a Borla Intercooler tip. It sucks that I have to send the DP out to get coated and it isn't cheap, but it will be worth it especially when I get the new header that will be coated as well. That will help a ton with exhaust scavenging. Right now you can tell there is a ton of back pressure and for what reason I don't know but stock Chrysler choked the exhaust on these cars.

It will make a HUGE difference; I can't wait to get it done. :sunglasse

I've heard that sooo many times from co-workers with GTIs. They think swapping to xenons, taking out their passenger seat, chipping it, and putting a euro plate on means they will be waxing my vr4. Always good for a laugh.

Anyway, nice races, good luck with the stealth, you wont regret it.